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The concern about attracting rats is one of the main reason why it is often recommended to avoid adding certain types of materials to the compost bin, but what happens when the rats prefer to eat the vegetables in the gardens than the many treats added to the compost.
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@Finnnicus
@Finnnicus 3 года назад
Hey Bruce, are we going to get a general overview video of the garden soon? Like RED and what it’s about, how the goals have changed, your background and methodology. I went back and watched your first few videos recently, and I feel like they might benefit from an update. You’ve also got way better writing and production quality now.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks for the comment, and confirmation that I am getting better at all of this. Good to know. Your suggestion of a general overview of the project and the gardens is a good one. I'll add it to the list!
@srslam1347
@srslam1347 3 года назад
That cat is too well fed!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yep, or too old and doesn't care any more!
@JamesCampbell-vf2hf
@JamesCampbell-vf2hf 3 года назад
The cat does not belong outdoors! It kills way to much wildlife! Its a massive problem in the Netherlands
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@JamesCampbell-vf2hf They are a problem here too - not my cat. There were 4 of them wandering around the gardens last year, and didn't seem to make much of a difference to the wildlife I wanted them to deal with.
@regiodeurse6513
@regiodeurse6513 3 года назад
@@REDGardens they raid bird nest because its easy prey, hence the problem.. Also often just for sports, even well fed cats find this an entertaining hobby. Most cats will shun rats.. Large rats WILL put up a fight against a cat when cornered. And also they are fast and hard to catch when fleeing. Always near something they can crawl into or under. So most cats wont even bother..
@JamesCampbell-vf2hf
@JamesCampbell-vf2hf 3 года назад
@@REDGardens maybe get a pest controle team in without using any posion ore other harmfull chemicals!! Love youre experiments and content! I'm looking for land my self in the Netherlands but it's hard to find something for the long term aswell as finding land for bio growing!
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 3 года назад
You have introduced the rats to farming. Perhaps they will soon try to grow their own crops and compete with your business.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
haha, that would be cool to see!
@twestgard2
@twestgard2 3 года назад
Mrs. Frisby and the Farmers of NIMH
@johnbeckman8916
@johnbeckman8916 3 года назад
I'm guessing that they are more than satisfied with the fresh and delicious plants already provided. Free labor too! 😎
@suburbanfarms
@suburbanfarms 2 года назад
they are good at starting tomato plants
@Bigelowbrook
@Bigelowbrook 3 года назад
I've had rats decimate my tomato crops and I've had to step up my eradication techniques. Last year most of my cherry tomatoes disappeared and they would take one or two bites of of the other tomatoes, leaving them unmarketable.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That is so discouraging!
@stefanklein7500
@stefanklein7500 3 года назад
Maybe a "lookout" for birds of prey (wooden T structure, 2-4m heigh) could further help with the rats.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Good idea.
@peter2327
@peter2327 3 года назад
Such a resting post helps indeed very much, but more against mice and voles (not sure if I picked the right word here, Wühlmaus is the german word). If you have bird houses or feeders, you might think twice, because birds of prey not only feed on mice. Higher is better! Rats are more active in the darkness, so this wont help much against them. But Bruce, you could put up web cams on this posts also, so that we all can watch you working from our home office confinements ;) Against rats, only shutting up all possible sources of food helped (compost here and at my neighbors, putting rabbit and chicken food into tin hobocks, feeding pets only inhouse), and destroying their nests (including in the insulation behind the stucco of our house) helped, together with those poisoned baits (which you have to put up in closed boxes to save pets and children) . For care free composting either do the lactic acid bokashi type of composting (they never go there) or build a huge drum composter (like biocycle . net / design-plans-low-cost-rotary-drum/), which does the hot rotting part - rats won't go there, because it rotates 2 times a day, so nesting is impossible. Rats nesting below the rainwater cistern tank and in the house insulation became quite expensive. the perforated tin sheets for lining the compost piles have not been cheap either. In the UK there seem to be professional rodent killers with air rifles (also found here on YT).
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@peter2327 Web cam on the post sounds a bit uncomfortable, not sure I want people watching me!!!
@nickn.332
@nickn.332 3 года назад
A fair warning; While its probably too early to tell for sure, I have a mated pair of Redtail hawks on and around my property, foxes, and the neighbour's barn cats. One of the favorite roosts of the hawks is right above my garden on an old oak And even with all of that, Rabbits still nibble the tops off of my softneck garlics that have popped up over the last few days, and the winter wheat, and my onions. While I'm sure animal predation keeps them from getting bold, I'm not sure how much animal predators can help past a certain point. Edit: Getting a dog would honestly be the best pest preditor you could get if you can mitigate the damage of a hunt (maybe a ferret would be preferable?) We used to have rats around the property, when we had a family dog here he'd gone through the effortful task of removing them entirely, nest by nest. So far rats have never moved back in but the rabbits have.
@markog1999
@markog1999 3 года назад
@@REDGardens Even attracting a few big ravens would be a big help, their noise and viciousness will drive rats away, however you might just end up trading all your veg for all your fruiting plants
@Fiannie
@Fiannie 3 года назад
In the oil plantations here in Malaysia we build tall birdhouses for owls as one of many ways for rodent control.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Sounds interesting!
@kieranhindshaw6195
@kieranhindshaw6195 3 года назад
7:08 A relative of many apex-predators enjoying lunch with the pests it is meant to hunt
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, i couldn't believe it when I saw that clip!
@AtheistEve
@AtheistEve 3 года назад
Some cats go for little mammals, some prefer birds, some stick to insects and others go for everything. My last cat destroyed and ate all mouse, vole and squirrel life around my house. But he never went for birds. He would have made mincemeat of your rats.
@mrJMD
@mrJMD 3 года назад
@@AtheistEve - We had two cats, "Zed" killed everything including bats, snakes, and weasels. Our other cat "Allen" caught a mouse every now and then but was otherwise just fine with all the other creatures. Always interesting to see how "lower" mammals have individual personalities just like us.
@AtheistEve
@AtheistEve 3 года назад
@@mrJMD We can never tell which cat in a litter will be a mouser. I don’t want a cat that “plays” with anything its caught.
@nadajaklic3069
@nadajaklic3069 3 года назад
Congratulations on your milestone video. I always look forward to watching them as they are well spoken, clear and insightful. Thank you, and here's to many more years.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@happygardener28
@happygardener28 3 года назад
The ease of finding yummy foods had led the rat population to increase creating more pressure on your gardens. The flamer idea is something I'd never heard of and appreciate that you shared it with us.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
The flamer works really well, so much better than anything else I have tried - so long as you can find the nest.
@Sean_neaS
@Sean_neaS 3 года назад
I had mice. I switched burying my compost. For each kitchen bucket I dig a new hole in a free spot in the garden or somewhere I want to build soil. This got rid of them and they haven't been back since (about three years).
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That kind of trench or pit composting is a really good option. I tried it a few years ago and should really give it another serious try.
@llanitedave
@llanitedave 3 года назад
My experience with gophers closely parallels yours with rats. Early on, I thought they were cute and harmless, and tolerated them, until they killed a couple of my favorite fruit trees. Now I'm merciless. The gas and smoke method doesn't work in our porous desert soils, so I just set lots of traps and pray. Three things that we have moved to recently with great success is raised beds, totes, and tule. Congratulations on 100 videos! We try to never miss one!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks! It is really cool to know that there are people out there who watch all my videos! I can imagine gophers can be a really pest.
@thomasdrew1159
@thomasdrew1159 3 года назад
Congratulations on the 100 video milestone! You're one of my favorite gardening youtube channels for videos just like this one. I can't recall many of my other channels discussing rats in the compost or some of the less "flashy" parts of gardening. I also really appreciate your commitment to trials and data, which are shared with amazing amounts of context in your 10-11 minute videos. If only we had similar climates haha. Thank you for all the knowledge you've shared!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thank you for that really encouraging comment. Lets me know I am on a good path.
@fxm5715
@fxm5715 3 года назад
What you are doing is important and sincerely appreciated by people far beyond your local community, Bruce. Congratulations on your 100+ videos. It's been almost five years now, and the positive impact you have had on thousands of people like me is doubtlessly substantial. Thank you!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks for the really supportive comment!
@armyguy9735
@armyguy9735 3 года назад
My Grandfather, when I was a boy and I'm 51 years old, used to grow lots and lots of mint herbs around the house, barn. In the Fall, he used to harvest the mint herbs and sprinkle the mint in the root cellar, and his basement. He said that rodents hate the smell of mint. He also had a Jack Russell Terrier and they are bred to kill to kill rodents. P.S. I never had a farm so I never did this technique, I just watched my Grandfather. Great videos, big fan and keep the good work. Just an idea to see if it helps.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks. The mint idea sounds interesting.
@carterriemer4609
@carterriemer4609 3 года назад
Hello, Red Gardens here is a list of stuff you can use to try to eradicate the rats. Some of them might be ones you already tried. 1. Slingshot-can get this for cheap 2. Air rifle-can get one around $130 3. Plant an area just four the rats and make the garden less accessible 4. Snares 5. Use a mink and net system. The mink system is wildly used on some farms and can kill all of the rats in a week or 2. 6.Help the natural predators. Plant cat nip, feed prey birds, rescue wild mink, etc Hope this helps and anyone who sees this like it so Red Gardens can see if easier!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Interesting list. Haven’t tried any of them, but suspect that they could be more hassle or less effective than my current method, at least in my context.
@rostamkocholo
@rostamkocholo 3 года назад
I have really enjoyed you logical unbiased view over the years. Congratulation for making it this long. The modification to each garden and different approach you have taken is inspiring. While I understand this project is not about most profitable gardening method, but rather a learning opportunity to compare different methods. However if needed I think succession of lettuce crop through out the year and their high value sale will bring additional funding to this project. Approach similar to Charles Dowding due to similarity of weather patterns and mild summer temperatures. Best of luck!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thank you. i am working on developing the unused space in th e Black Plot this spring to provide more room for high value crops like that.
@ukaszzimmerman9639
@ukaszzimmerman9639 3 года назад
This cat had one job to do...
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
... exactly! One job!
@sfn4702
@sfn4702 3 года назад
congrats on a hundred, and thank you for sharing. this is one of my favorite channels. Love your production, and the content wonderful.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Wow, thank you!
@evansullivanrichgels5531
@evansullivanrichgels5531 3 года назад
Congrats on your milestone! And yes, man, rats can really be a problem. Nice strategies, despite you not wanting to do them. Sometimes composting the rats themselves is good too. I feel it's a nice way to use them again and actually benefit your gardens. Especially when it's something you don't want to do. Makes me feel a little better.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks!
@geraldinemryan
@geraldinemryan Год назад
🙋‍♀️hi im broken I was looking for information on the rodent problem and glad to find your video telling The Truth! I dont think there is any solution to them they are out in their droves All Night eating veg and fruit then get to work on our homes lofts garages sheds greenhouses cars and more less crops are being grown out in the fields its pointless we cannot control them guess i will just grow flowers from now on.not a defeatest normally Love all your excellent Videos Bruce well done!😊 Ireland
@nickthegardener.1120
@nickthegardener.1120 2 года назад
I have a gamo phox .22 calibre rifle which has a ten round magazine, also comes with a scope and silencer. Only £500. If I were in Ireland I would be happy to help! 👍
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 2 года назад
That would be ... interesting!
@JungleScene
@JungleScene 3 года назад
I completely gave up on tomatoes because of rats. last year I didnt get a sinlge tomato from my 6 plants, they were eating them entirely before they ever fully ripened.
@jmaldy67
@jmaldy67 3 года назад
Congratulations on making 100 videos I have watched and enjoyed all of them! Keep up the Great work!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Wow, thanks! I wonder how many people watch them all.
@mundanestuff
@mundanestuff 3 года назад
Congratulations on the success of your channel, it's an absolute treasure for me, and I refer to these videos on a regular basis. I'm going to patrion right now. Thanks for the reminder.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thank you for the really supportive comment, and for considering to become a patron!!!
@monsterhunternathanultimat4114
@monsterhunternathanultimat4114 3 года назад
sow patches of sacrificial crops to distract the rats far away form your patch as well as dumping a lot of birdseed to distract the rats from your microgreen patch. Hopefully the birdseed will sprout which will attract the rats.
@davidchester429
@davidchester429 3 года назад
This might sound like a bit of a strange idea but have you ever thought about ferrets?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
It has been suggested to me, though I don't know anyone who has them in the area.
@16dhampton
@16dhampton 3 года назад
Great video, I love your integrated approach to pests. Shame that there aren't any snakes in Ireland. A well trained dog could be a solution possibly, though it might discourage other natural enemies from hunting there.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, snakes would be good. A 'well trained' dog would be better. My neighbour visited with their terrier and the dog did a lot of damage running through the crops chasing the scent, and wouldn't respond to any calls or control. I won't be letting that dog near my gardens again!
@alyssanapoleon877
@alyssanapoleon877 3 года назад
Wow that was disappointing, a cat in the compost pile with the rat! 😂 We had trouble with voles last year, they are probably half of our fall beets! They hollowed them out from underneath so from the surface they looked perfect but when I went to pick them I only had the skin left! We’ve been trapping them through the winter, I don’t know if we’re making a dent yet.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, I know, right! It can be tough to get rid of a population of pests that are already there.
@mrJMD
@mrJMD 3 года назад
Congrats on 100 videos and soon enough 75,000 subscribers. You're doing great work Bruce. I've just been going back through your videos from the beginning. Sometimes we binge watch Netflix, but RU-vid gardening shows are also great. Calming, peaceful, and we learn something. Thanks Bruce, looking forward to all your future videos in this upcoming season.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks for your kind words!
@memunns
@memunns 3 года назад
You should try one of those 'Walk the Plank" rat traps with a bucket. They are really effective and can catch a huge amount in a single night.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I did try one of those, only caught one rat after several nights. i think if there is other food supplies available then they are less interested in taking the chance. I can imagine they can be much more successful in a barn or somewhere that there is a shortage of food, but not next to a garden full of vegetables, and a compost nearby.
@wales123100
@wales123100 3 года назад
I would be inviting the local Irish terrier boys down for the day
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I have had some success with hunting with dogs a few years ago. More recently my neighbour cam with her dog and the thing ran all over my allotments jumping on the beds and smashing plants, and the owner couldn't control it. So wont be doing that again, not with that dog! Much less damage if I just find the nests myself.
@wales123100
@wales123100 3 года назад
@@REDGardens fair point a good pack like this is very organised though and the men could turn your beds over at the same time! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r98aCvZ-7l8.html
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@wales123100 impressive!
@orlamartin7564
@orlamartin7564 2 года назад
Congratulations on 100 videos, looking forward to more!
@stubbi
@stubbi 3 года назад
I have been a Patreon for, I dont even remember, longer than three year by now? I thoroughly enjoy these videos and there is so, so, so much to learn. Thanks Bruce.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Wow, thank you! And thanks for being a Patron for all that time!
@stubbi
@stubbi 3 года назад
@@REDGardens One thiong I have taken away from everything so far, is that I really have to get a garden going, once I can afford the growing space. I'm currently living in a flat and already use the balcony as much as I can, growing salads, tomatoes, peas and squash, but I cant wait to have more room available.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@stubbi Hope you get a space soon!
@HelenRullesteg
@HelenRullesteg 3 года назад
Congratulations on the 100th video. You've got rats, I've got voles that eat the roots of my cabbages and some other plant families. I couldn't get myself to eliminate them they way you do with the flameweeder, although I totally understand your dilemma. Instead I fill the burrows with water, lots of it, and hope that it will make my garden as unhospitable as possible. But admittedly I have never seen voles eat my peas or tomatoes, one somehow has to admire rats, they do seem very clever.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks! I do admire the rats, which has caused me to hesitate killing them in the past, which has led to too many rats! From what I have heard, I think I would prefer rats to voles!
@jhfridhem
@jhfridhem 3 года назад
Haha wow, that white cat was just oblivious to that rat.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
It saw it there, just didn't care.
@jhfridhem
@jhfridhem 3 года назад
Aah yeah I suppose that makes much more sense actually
@m.saint.1071
@m.saint.1071 3 года назад
​@@REDGardens Hi Red . Love the vids. I had a rat and mice problem last year , I felt it was very cruel to kill the little buggers but realised I had to, so I set some traps and had so-so results. I also set up a camera to see what I was dealing with , it became like a nature documentry and this made it harder for me to kill them . Anyway long story short a wheasel or stoat( not 100% sure which) showed up one night on the footage and from then it was bye bye for my rodent friends, that was last october if I recall .
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 3 года назад
First world well fed cat. That’s the problem.
@zettavilla
@zettavilla 3 года назад
Congratulations 100 videos of information which is going to be alive as long as RU-vid is awesome. May be generations down will also find it useful.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks, and I do hope they remain useful for many years.
@oiavh
@oiavh 3 года назад
I have had problems with rats before. Actively destroying their tunnels and setting traps every single day helped me dealing with it. But it took months and a lot of frustration, because they are amazingly clever. I felt a bit bad though,. Sadly, it is unsustainable not to deal with them around populated areas. Good luck keeping their numbers down!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
They are tough to deal with. I have this strange thought that the more aggressively I keep their numbers down the fewer of them there will be and the less of them I need to kill. So in a kind of perverse way, if I am ruthless, and work hard to kill as many as possible then in need to kill less in the long run, which I think I’d prefer.
@oiavh
@oiavh 3 года назад
@@REDGardens I think you are right. The more you stress them, the less they will reproduce and become a problem.
@williamwatson2824
@williamwatson2824 3 года назад
Thank you for your hard work, and making great content. Here’s to the next 100 videos!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks!
@Mrader1983
@Mrader1983 3 года назад
Damn. You are a genius.
@paulblankenship7865
@paulblankenship7865 3 года назад
I like the propane torch idea. Thanks for the tip
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
No problem 👍
@YurikArt84
@YurikArt84 3 года назад
Congrats on 100th video. Your channel is amazing in how you present information and data. Please continue, wish more RU-vidrs would adapt your style of straight forward approach. Cheers from Canada
@innerspaceph
@innerspaceph 3 года назад
Congratulations on your 100th video! I enjoy watching your videos because I get a lot of information and practical tips on farming. Wishing you more success in the coming years!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@permiebird937
@permiebird937 3 года назад
I use a similar method for rat control. I find as many nest holes as possible, and shove a signal flare down each of the holes and let it run. It fills the holes with smoke, and kills the rats. I only do it after rain when the ground is good and damp.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Flares are an interesting option.
@nicolaiitchenko7610
@nicolaiitchenko7610 3 года назад
Have you considered investigating the feasibility of Black Soldier Flies as compost processors...? The success of these small grubs has been so great for my composting that I am now forever seeking newer sources organic scraps for the 44 gallon drum that I have converted to be my BSF feeder. I use the grubs as feed additives for my fish in the Aquaponics system and for the chickens.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I had looked at it, but I don't think they are not native to Ireland. Interesting to hear about your success with them!
@geraldinemryan
@geraldinemryan Год назад
Hi im in ireland and i made up a large yractor tyre for compost a while ago and got the soldier fly and larve after invrstigatiom i brelieved they were harmless have not seen them since probably too hot or no further food source didnt like to see them nut anyway learning curve😊
@farmerchick3040
@farmerchick3040 3 года назад
I put sunflower heads in my barn to dry them out...big mistake rats definitely love sunflower seeds.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I lost all my sunflower heads last year as well.
@halldirector
@halldirector 3 года назад
This is a problem I do not have in my Alberta garden thankfully.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
You are lucky.
@mrJMD
@mrJMD 3 года назад
Isn't it weird though?!? I'm from Alberta too and if you look for maps of areas that don't have rats, all of North America has them and yet somehow Alberta doesn't. It's like someone made a deal with the devil at some point and now rats are magically incapable of settling here.
@michaelmcclafferty3346
@michaelmcclafferty3346 3 года назад
Well done Bruce. I think that I have seen all of your videos and enjoyed every one of them and learned so much from them. I had a problem with mice on my allotment but managed to grow the things they liked higher up or in places it’s more difficult to get into. You are quite right to be aggressive with rats , otherwise you would lose too much vegetables.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks. So good to know there are people out there who have watched all my videos! That is a lot of time!
@michaelmcclafferty3346
@michaelmcclafferty3346 3 года назад
@@REDGardens I’m retired now so have a lot more time to selectively watch videos. That said, that’s when I’m not at my allotment or sailing. I very much like your open and reflective style which encourages people to try things out for themselves and take risks. You are a great teacher.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@michaelmcclafferty3346 Thank you for that encouraging comment!
@michaelmcclafferty3346
@michaelmcclafferty3346 3 года назад
@@REDGardens You are very welcome Bruce. I always look forward to your videos .
@MeandYouHello
@MeandYouHello 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing this video
@MeandYouHello
@MeandYouHello 3 года назад
Imo rats prefer organic food rather than shop bought not organic
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That is interesting observation. Do they know something we don't?
@troyclements4546
@troyclements4546 3 года назад
A pond for grass snakes might keep the population down, although I believe they prefer amphibians as prey, they might take newborn & juvenile mice & rats, thus tempering the increase in population of local rodents. Terriers were used to keep rats in check as well & more of a man made approach if you have one available. I also keep chickens by my allotment & this offers the local wildlife another source of sustenance with the compost located nearby as well. The list of animals willing to test my patience & help themselves to our produce is seemingly endless. I humanely trap (& release) rabbits & I've seen birds of prey nearby & with nest boxes I hope to attract smaller birds to keep the bugs under control. There's always something looking for a free meal.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Unfortunately we don't have any snakes here in Ireland. I have tried dogs with mixed success. It is true what you say about all the other animals that want to help themselves to our vegetables!
@dougpeterson5257
@dougpeterson5257 3 года назад
Voles really decimated my beets last year. They helped themselves to a few carrots also, intolerable to loose my work to those vermin.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That is tough. I imagine voles are harder to deal with than rats.
@jamesdeblois878
@jamesdeblois878 3 года назад
Great channel lots of great info had the same problem but also had to deal with woodchucks . Tried traps got a raccoon and possum in large trap and chipmunk in small trap. Poured hot wood coals you can do charcoal into holes for both woodchuck and rat,mice and voles. Kills pest but also shows if you missed other holes as smoke will come out .
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That charcoal in the holes makes sense. I will give it a try. Thanks.
@peckinpahlady
@peckinpahlady 3 года назад
Thank you for your honest and informative videos.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
:)
@Jeansieguy
@Jeansieguy 3 года назад
I love watching your videos as I always learn something. Many thanks :)
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
:)
@jmas2312
@jmas2312 3 года назад
LMAO! Perfect solution, between me and my neighbors, we have 10 cats. No rat problem.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That would do it.
@Jake-sz2ij
@Jake-sz2ij 3 года назад
My biggest problem here in Indiana are Meadow voles they love to eat my carrots and sweet potatoes. Really enjoy your videos and have learned quite a bit from them over the years
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks! Glad you like them! I am glad I don't have moles to deal with as well.
@arturomateo3920
@arturomateo3920 3 года назад
please continue. I love your style
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks
@Zorn446
@Zorn446 3 года назад
I love vegetables
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@Usonian7
@Usonian7 3 года назад
I have tomato "weeds" everywhere on my urban lot.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
They like to grow!
@michaelgailroberts
@michaelgailroberts 3 года назад
Rats cleaned out all my lettuce, broccoli, chard, Chinese cabbage, and eat my chicken feed here in north Texas. I have a critter cam and can see them doing it but haven’t found a solution yet to drop the population. They can clean out a crop overnight.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Man, that is tough, hope you find a solution soon.
@ancientgardening6920
@ancientgardening6920 3 года назад
It would be interesting how this affected the tomato variety experiment, as you would think they would eat the most delicious ones. Oh, if you can dig up enough dirt under the tomatoes to grow the seeds in another spot, and have a new experiment to breed together all the varieties to make a more resilient tomato by virtue of having 50ish varieties as seed stock.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thankfully the rat damage to the tomatoes was in a different polytunnel than the variety trial of all those different tomatoes. With breeding tomatoes, it seems that most of what you would get with a cross breed are mediocre varieties producing less desirable than the parent plants, and only occasionally do you get something better. While it may produce more resilient stock (though I am not sure this would be the case) from what I understand it may not be nearly as productive or as tasty.
@ancientgardening6920
@ancientgardening6920 3 года назад
It would be worth it to make food with more random qualities, as I get tired of any one taste. We always eat way too many strawberries from the strawberry patch, so if getting tired of a food can happen to strawberries, it can happen to anything!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@ancientgardening6920 Sure, if you want to experiment that go for it. I knew a woman who grew a large number of apple trees from seeds from different apples varieties, (each one would have been different from the original trees that would have been grafted). After years of growing she cut down and discarded most of the trees as worthless, but kept the best one for the sake of it even though she like the apples from the original trees much better. I always think of this cautionary tale, and a few others, whenever people talk about cross breeding plant varieties for the sake of resilience or novelty.
@ancientgardening6920
@ancientgardening6920 3 года назад
The squirrels love those kind of experiments! Definitely graft something that makes food onto those established trees, that's a quick and dirty way to establish an orchard and still have it make food as we like it. We've saved radish seed from the plants for many years and they make wonderful radishes in the cool season, but even the seeds from the packets get all bolty if planted too close to summer. Radishes are an excellent one to start with, as even a failed experiment will still make more radishes than one can possibly eat, and they work the ground so well. Potato-scraps break down into perfect soil, is it the same with all root vegetables?
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 3 года назад
You can blame St. Patrick for this. If you had a good population of rat snakes you would not have such a problem. I've long heard the warnings about cooked food or meat in the compost pile, ignored it and never had a rat in a compost pile. I've never seen anything attract rats so much as a store of chicken feed. I have had rats destroy a crop of 200 Seminole pumpkins in a very short time.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, for want of a few snakes!
@geraldinemryan
@geraldinemryan Год назад
❤😂 in Ireland😊 with RATS GALORE! I live in the countryside they look for shelter as well as food lovely warm sheds greenhouses decking and more as u know then we have the field mice oh! Come back St. PATRICK😊
@elizebethparker5412
@elizebethparker5412 3 года назад
The rats really enjoyed the cabbages and tomatoes in our community garden.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Ah, they can be such a pest.
@jeil5676
@jeil5676 3 года назад
you need some terriers or stoats or something.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
The last terrier I got in to help ended up destroying part of my gardens, so not keen to go down that road again.
@sethl3702
@sethl3702 3 года назад
Same problems with rats here in Eastern TN. Started in year 3.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Hope you can get rid of them.
@sethl3702
@sethl3702 3 года назад
@@REDGardens I cull them like you do. I use lots of bucket traps, dogs and we are adding two farm cats this year.
@KJ-fx1se
@KJ-fx1se 2 года назад
Year 3 for me too. Rats showed up and my traps didn’t work. I have a terrier but this far he hasn’t caught any, although I did find one dead one so maybe he did.
@cuteshaggydogs
@cuteshaggydogs 3 года назад
Unusual i know, bit this video gave me great ideas of things to grow for my pet rats this year.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Haha, didn’t anticipate it being useful in that way!!
@slipad_pannkaka
@slipad_pannkaka 3 года назад
Cheers to 100 more! (Videos, not rats) 😂
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
:)
@asiluawksadvnase8238
@asiluawksadvnase8238 3 года назад
A couple of feral cats should take care of your problem. They can be incentivized to stay in the garden with the occasional feed but once they adopt your yard they'll stay there and survive without much input from you. They will impact the local bird population though.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, i thought cats were a good option, but the four different cats that I have discovered in the gardens didn't seem up to the task. And I like the robins and other birds around the place.
@PaleGhost69
@PaleGhost69 3 года назад
If you have any spare seed or sprouts after planting, it might be a good experiment to give the rats their own mini garden close to the compost. Gives them less of a reason to forage farther than that.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I don't know if they would respect those designations or boundaries
@twestgard2
@twestgard2 3 года назад
They’ll just make more rats, unfortunately.
@PaleGhost69
@PaleGhost69 3 года назад
@@REDGardens Maybe, maybe not. But I'll link a short video to help persuade to just try :P
@PaleGhost69
@PaleGhost69 3 года назад
@@REDGardens ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SNdts2P-djg.html
@jettyeddie_m9130
@jettyeddie_m9130 3 года назад
Looks like you have a live fertilizer problem, I just setup 10 or more rat traps in the garden and for a night or 2 I keep my window open and as soon as I hear a trap go off I’ll go out there and put the rat in a bucket reset the traps and I’ll get 10 or so rats a night , then just dig a hole and bury them and plant a pumpkin or corn on top of the rats and THEY LOVE IT and you don’t have to fertilize that plant all season, I grew some big healthy pumpkin plants with huge nice pumpkins and never used any fertilizer but the rats that were buried underneath, or bury them next to fruit trees , that takes care of the rats for a while til more move in but yea try it !
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
They do make good fertility!
@ranamanathabascarohipalepa9297
@ranamanathabascarohipalepa9297 3 года назад
They eat the wiring harness of my car.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Strange!
@geraldinemryan
@geraldinemryan Год назад
Yes i heard they shelter in the the car engine in winter chew on pipes 😂
@compostjohn
@compostjohn 3 года назад
I catch rats. They compost down really well, adding nutrients to my growing media.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, they make good fertility.
@joansmith3492
@joansmith3492 3 года назад
I suspect the smells of the compost initially attracted them and since they had such nice living conditions they over populated and found food sources nearby (your gardens). I think you are going to have to turn those piles more often and keep the freshest stuff enclosed in something rat proof like hardware cloth for the first week or so.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That could be a good option.
@leslienichols5268
@leslienichols5268 3 года назад
The balance between one species and another is very interesting. The rats are killing the mice and probably other small animals. Here it is foxes and rabbits. One year it is one and then the next, the other. Nature has a way, but I would completely agree- the rats MUST go.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, that balance is a tough one.
@smob0
@smob0 3 года назад
I was wondering if you had considered growing mushrooms. I think you could stretch more food out of what you have grown by processing some of the non edible parts of plants into edible mushrooms. Also I have heard really good things about incorporating the leftovers of the process into your compost or into the garden itself. It can also give you something to do when the gardens dont produce as much and it should help fill the hunger gap.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
It is something I am interested in doing, Perhaps in the next few years.
@pinballwizard6906
@pinballwizard6906 Год назад
Would you not let a few working cats roam garden ✌️😎
@REDGardens
@REDGardens Год назад
There are a few cats around, but the main issue is the gardens are in a shared space and not my on land, and well away from the houses.
@wipeoutxl21
@wipeoutxl21 3 года назад
The issue is the compost is allowing them to eat and breed easily, but then the new rats dont have enough food or territory in the compost so they are pushed out and look for homes and food elsewhere. Removing the seeding source of food should lower the overall population. Its the same reason people should not feed stray cats. Well fed stray cats....make more stay cats that then.....need more food and then.......make more stray cats. The original feeding source needs to be lowered or eliminated. In a way feeding stray animals actually makes the situation worse for more animals. I suggest adopting the policy of the only good rat is a dead rat.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
There is a certain amount of logic to that. But my thinking is that if I remove the compost, or make it unavailable to the rats, then the ones around are going to eat more of my vegetables.
@wipeoutxl21
@wipeoutxl21 3 года назад
@@REDGardens they might try for awhile, but if you set traps with more attractive food it will result in a population crash.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@wipeoutxl21 I have mostly given up on traps, as going after the nests has been way more successful for me.
@edgardavid1653
@edgardavid1653 3 года назад
That's gardening and Trash Metal together. Love it!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
:)
@AlsonPun-bd4fv
@AlsonPun-bd4fv 10 месяцев назад
Me l love rats because they're cute,adorable,intelligent and amazing creature like bats either that's wild or domestic rats.Along with rats l also like beavers.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 10 месяцев назад
I like both!
@AlsonPun-bd4fv
@AlsonPun-bd4fv 10 месяцев назад
@REDGardens thank you so much for your kind reply now we can be friends and 1 team.
@BalticHomesteaders
@BalticHomesteaders 3 года назад
Unfortunately, rats welcome your compost toleration and colonise from there. You could speak to a local air rifle club and invite a member or 2 every few weeks to do a cull. Am sure they would be more than happy to help out.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Interesting option, though I don’t believe those kind of clubs exist in Ireland.
@BalticHomesteaders
@BalticHomesteaders 3 года назад
@@REDGardens It is slightly more complex in Ireland than in the UK due to licensing but if you're not aware of local clubs then ask at a gun shop or outdoor pursuits shops about local enthusiasts/clubs that might be able to help. It's worth noting it's what local councils often do for their compost /refuge sites.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
@@BalticHomesteaders ok, thanks for the info.
@goredgord
@goredgord 3 года назад
Flamin rats
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
haha
@thelmamc522
@thelmamc522 3 года назад
I had a similar problem with rats. It started in our chicken coop. The rats started nesting nearby, eating the chickens food . Then as they continued reproducing, more nests popped up in my gardens. They would burrow and nest in the potato rows, and eat every potato that grew. Increasingly, they would move on to the next vegetable they found appetizing. We tried several methods, but ultimately, rat poison blocks strategically placed in the winter wiped them out. Although, our small community of close neighbors, also treated their coops and barns at the same time. Our cooperation that winter ultimately removed the rat problem. Unfortunately, the nature of rodents is to be ravenous, and without predation, they are overwhelming 🐀
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
It was a chicken coop in the area beside the gardens that I think started a lot of the rat issues. I had rats in the compost for ages, but then when the chickens came in, there was just too much food for them, and the population became really established, and has been at a fluctuating higher level since. I think this last year I have finally got rid of a lot of the nests, and really reduced the population.
@Chris-op7yt
@Chris-op7yt 3 года назад
lol, there is no safe level of rats to keep around your food crops. eliminate and keep eliminated. spring traps are cheap and easy to use. would you tolerate a certain number of rats in the kitchen?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Interesting point.
@danielfisch655
@danielfisch655 3 года назад
Dead rats make a great addition to compost piles. We have to clean citrus off the ground to keep the rat population under control and off of our roof. Thank you for sharing.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
They are a great addition to the compost pile, and their burrows do help to aerate the piles a bit.
@stefflus08
@stefflus08 3 года назад
Rodent populations have a tendency to suddenly explode, so my money is on that. I will not compost food waste, not even vegetable peels in the garden compost. I have a separate closed and insulated bin for that. A freezer would work, but mice can enter drainage holes unless they're meshed
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I have seen that explosion when I stopped working to keep the population down.
@qtpwqt
@qtpwqt 3 года назад
You could use traps , but if you do cover them with paper or something like that, as they will figure out what the traps are after a while.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I’ve used a bunch of different types of traps, and still use them occasionally, but generally don’t have a lot of success with them. As you mention, they are smart enough to figure out to keep away, so I only get one or two them have to wait quite a while before trying again. And I catch more birds in them than rats, which I can get around but creates more hassle. But mainly because there is so much other food around, it is really hard to attract them to the bait in the traps.
@davidnyc487
@davidnyc487 3 года назад
You should get a couple of rat terriers
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I've had mixed success with terriers in the past. The latest attempt saw the dog do more damage running around my vegetable patch than actually any success in killing rats, so wont be bringing it back in unless it is properly trained.
@metamud8686
@metamud8686 3 года назад
so how do you know you find "all the other entrances to the rat's burrow" ? Do you see smoke escaping when you try your weedkiller trick and then close up that hole?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I usually have a really good look around, they are often quite close by, and I block up any I can find. Then when I use the torch if I see any smoke from a hole I missed I try to block it up. This is easier if I work with a friend. By the time I notice the smoke, rats have often already escaped.
@twestgard2
@twestgard2 3 года назад
Congratulations!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
:)
@geraldinemryan
@geraldinemryan Год назад
Hi i watched a video from NZ and a lady gardener converted an old washing machine drum stainless u know into like a rotating composting drum she put corn imto the drum anf when rat went im they found lower eas oit which they had to pass thru big trap killef instantly next day she droped it into composting tyre bin i m not sure i would like to be that hands on but she is providing an attractant ???
@ThomasShatter
@ThomasShatter 3 года назад
Have you tried hiring a Pied Piper? :D
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Apparently that is my nickname among some of the kids who found out I kill rats.
@LickorishAllsorts
@LickorishAllsorts 2 года назад
Our problem is with field volves.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 2 года назад
Ugghh, glad I don't have to deal with those!
@stuartbenzie6115
@stuartbenzie6115 3 года назад
Another interesting video. Has there been less damage in the extensive garden? Less cover than say intensive. I have to say I’ve watched many of your videos many times. Very happy to be a Patreon. Would be interested what’s happening outside Black Plot poly. All the best. From north east Scotland.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Thanks. There was less damage in the Extensive garden, possible due to less cover, which would be interesting. It is also likely that the carrot patch isn't on the path travelled by the rats, and is farther away froth compost.
@rideswithscissors
@rideswithscissors 3 года назад
I used to think I would be as furious as Mr. McGregor if something were munching the plants in my little garden. One year a native Idaho cottontail wandered onto the property, and I was actually thrilled, since my property is a self-declared wildlife sanctuary. The little bunny did no damage to my crops as far as I could tell, and I saw it eating weeds instead. It hung out for months, and then we didn't see it anymore. The annoying thing about rats, in the case of Red Gardens, and squirrels, in my case, is that they are not content to finish their meal, but instead they go from plant to plant just nibbling what they think is the best part and then they move on to the next one. I think my squirrels are true epicureans, they have such a finely developed sense of taste and smell that they find only a small portion of the apple to be just right, and then they discard the fruit and move on to the next one. But in the case of the rats, maybe they just nibble the part most easily reached, since there are plenty of handy targets all in a row. Here at my place I am just cleaning up the result of winter's depredation, and trimming the sprouts off the top of the branches of the old apple tree. The trimming is slow going... the ladder rungs hurt my feet despite my work boots, and I have to move the ladder a lot since my reach is limited. I can't use a two-handed tool like loppers or a pole pruner while on the ladder, that just isn't safe, so I am limited to pruning shears and saws. The tree is at least one hundred years old, and you can't wrap your arms around the trunk, and it produces the best apples I have ever tasted! I am a bit biased, I am sure. The tree has suffered from a power line being strung overhead back in the day, and when I moved here there were jagged limbs sticking out here and there, possibly the result of breaking from a snow load. There are hollow places in the trunk, and a fungus grows on it, but it seems to have responded to my ministrations.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
Yeah, it is the going from plant to plant that really bothers me. I don't mind losing a certain amount of any crop, but when there is so much damage it is. Sounds like a lovely old apple tree. you remind me that one of the tasks I have to do this week is try to prune a lot of the apple trees beside the gardens.
@JlSuzuki-qe8lr
@JlSuzuki-qe8lr 3 года назад
Ferrets.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
would rather not.
@kirawelty
@kirawelty 3 года назад
My bane in the garden are the birds.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
They can be tough - i cover loads of things to avoid bird damage early in the season. What kind of damage do you get?
@mogeking56
@mogeking56 2 года назад
Just remember rats 🐀 are delicious 🤤 seriously 😳 they can be add to your cook 👨‍🍳 pot on a regular basis
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 2 года назад
Rather not, until I 'need' to!
@n.m.8728
@n.m.8728 3 года назад
I have been having a lot of issues with groundhogs in my home garden.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
I hear they are tough to deal with!
@Hayley-sl9lm
@Hayley-sl9lm 3 года назад
Where I work, we have a large warehouse with a lot of fruit. One time a couple of years ago, a rat got inside (we think hiding in a shipment of watermelon). We had all manner of fruit and vegetables available in the warehouse that it could have gotten to, but out of everything the product it really wanted was Hawaiian papaya. I believe the volatiles of ripe fruit are incredibly attractive to them so it doesn't surprise me that they'd like tomatoes. This is hard, I would love to be a totally veganic gardener and not harm any living things, but at a certain point if you don't deal with the issue you're just going to be growing a rat's dinner. Large amounts of vegetables in one place really kind of creates this inherent imbalance. Hopefully death by carbon monoxide is humane and they just fall asleep. My mom had this experience with poison bait -- she knew there was a rat in the backyard and garage, so she had put out bait. But then she found a rat seizing and not totally killed after eating the bait, and she felt so bad for it that she actually nursed it back to health in her basement before taking it to a park and letting it out there. This is a difficult issue :(
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
That is really interesting about the papaya. you are right about the 'inherent imbalance' of a vegetable garden, and that is a good way of describing it. That story of you mother's experience is quite common I think That clip I included in the video of a handful of baby rats presented me with a similar dilemma. I had just discovered the nest when digging out a compost pile, and collected up a handful of adorable baby rats, and was torn between finding them a safe place to hide and hoped their parent would find them, and killing them. A tough call.
@jeffmartin693
@jeffmartin693 3 года назад
I think breeding season is 12 months of the year for them......
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
You might be right, but I have noticed a lot more young ones around later in the spring. Right now it is only a few big old rats.
@AJWGBFX
@AJWGBFX 3 года назад
Very interesting - luckily I've not got anywhere near as many rats on my allotment - maybe my veg doesn't taste as good as yours! I noticed you handle stuff which has obviously had contact with rats - are you not worried about Weil's disease?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 года назад
that is something I should have mentioned in the video. The investigations that I have made about Weil's disease is that it is water born, and the infection is when a open cut or graze gets wet with contaminated water. I am quite careful of water that has been sitting around, and I typically wear gloves in the gardens, and wash my hands regularly. So it is still a risk, but I think quite a small one if I take sensible precautions.
@AJWGBFX
@AJWGBFX 3 года назад
@@REDGardens that's useful to know. We have rats on our allotments, of course, and I've been a bit neurotic about them, but I usually wear gloves, especially if I think I'm touching something where they've been. Rats, pigeons, slugs and flea beetles, I could do without! Best wishes
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