I just bought a 505 today to help me finish this season up here in PA. It was heavily discounted because it is a 2022. I also purchased a few boxes of Megameat 100gr. Going to test and number bolts. It’s a great habit for magazines in a firearm. What is the negative of spending 10 extra minutes of fun with your bow? Then, if there is a recurring issue, it will help diagnose the cause. That way, you assholes can tell me “you should’ve already know that, dipshit” dickhead comment. 😬 may be guilty of this in my own craft…
The crossbow went together quickly and the general fit and finish is a bit above what I expected for the price. ru-vid.comUgkx5B43Qabqt1HedUJyfEqxiwBCfaooIH52 The adjustable stock is a little loose. I had an issue when I tried to cock the bow for the first time with the safety on. The string set in the trap box, held just enough to build up enough tension to rip the string out of my hands when it let go. No significant damage was done, and once I got it sighted in, I wrecked a couple bolts by sending one straight down the shaft of the first. I'm holding ~2" groups at around 50 yards, and I'm not an expert by any means. Best part is that they supply all the replacements parts you may ever need
The 500E electric crank is so loud! I wouldn’t consider this a hunting crossbow at all. Even the manual crank is loud, unless you depress the anti click button which renders the anti reverse useless. The little bit of accuracy that you might gain in the Ravin would be negated by the loudness of the cranking mechanism. Please correct me if I’m wrong?
@Jimmy C you are for one reason. You don't get a follow up shot with a crossbow. So why struggle with a cocking mechanism or hand cocking ? The built in one is so simple, like a winch on your 4x4. Hit the release hook it up draw it back. Hit the release. Knock your bolt and wait for the target or start your stalk
@@williamadams4843 I’m not sure if you’ve ever been hunting with a crossbow before but I’ve been afforded follow up shots on many missed first shots and was able to re cock my crossbow with a manual and near silent cocking rope. If you’ve ever seen or heard the cocking of the electric cocking mechanism it’s about a 30 second process that would scare everything in the woods away. Watch the videos and tell me I’m wrong.
Ah, I missed that you missed. Yeah in that case, it was not a follow up. Need to hit for it to be a follow up. You must be missing bad too. What set up are you using? I mostly go after deer with mine the occasional hog. Whenever i have missed even though the bow is pretty damn quiet, the bolt going through the brush or hitting a tree has always spooked my prey, so i learned to not miss. Better to wait for a good shot and get the kill.
For me I feel both x-bows have more than enough power for the the game you will hunt especially within the normal range (30~50 yds) of your target. At 12 lbs these x-bows are heavier than the normal bow (7~8 lb) but because they are reverse draw, fortunately it puts their c of g closer to the shooter's body allowing for better accuracy when sighting & less fatigue on the arms. Because of their energy I suspect they may be somewhat louder than normal & could be a factor when hunting. Remember sound travels at 1100fps, a perceptible "thwack" of the x-bow will reach/alert the game before the arrow (@ 500fps) strikes! At $4000+ it's for those who can afford it or think it's cool to have...good luck! Unfortunately that excludes me on both counts...besides at that price, I would be considering a high-end/quality rifle...semi automatic 10 round under 8 lbs...sure kill! I drive a Hyundai not Ferrari! It's not for show but for economy & reliability...yep it says something about me...cheap & pragmatic! Lol!
Uhm, I hate this argument. Just because you can afford this crossbow does not make it normal to dislike the product. You hate the price of the Ferrari, not the car. Yes, it is not obtainable to some people. But there’s always a way to get it. Plain and simple, you got a hustle. Every nonessential purchase I make a year, I work enough overtime to cover it. If you want something, there is a way to get it. just means you’re gonna have to take away from something else. Then again, I love my job.
I am puzzled by your accuracy results. Did you get a bad batch of arrows for your 505? My 505 shoots 1.5" groups at 60 yards with factory arrows. I have a Burris Oracle X mounted on my 505. That group was calculated by measuring the distance between three holes from three different arrows shot separately in the target. I can't shoot groups at that distance due to the likelihood of breaking arrows. Each one of the dozen TenPoint arrows that I am initially working with all shot into the same group, no flyers. I am using 125 gr. fieldpoints. My broadhead of choice is the 125 gr. NAP SlingBlade. Those broadheads shoot identical to my fieldpoints at 60 yards, which is as far as I have tested them to date. I am in the process now of having the arrows built that I will be using this Fall. Those will be weight and spine matched, as well as increasing the FOC with slightly heavier inserts. I am expecting even better results with those arrows. At this point, considering also all the development and delayed delivery problems Ravin had with the R500, I would not choose the R500 over the 505. I would suggest to any potential buyer to shoot both like I did. The TenPoint 505 felt better in my hands, and I liked the cocking mechanism better.
I might hang on to my nitro rdx and rs470 for another year or two, 9" fliers Idk what the go with that is I've never had any issues like that , I shoot 125g 3 blade Magnus snuffer ss and they group like field tips so it's pretty bizzare getting 9" fliers out of this new bow , maybe it isn't as accurate as I had hoped
I'm thinking the oracle x scope/rangefinder is superior than the Garmin x1i for the simple fact you have fixed pin on the oracle x and lifetime warranty and the extra tech which is useless on the Garmin you need the Garmin watch or hand held to take advantage of it
Everybody has their opinion and that’s fine. But let’s look at this. I have read and been told of many common problems with the R500. At first, it was broken and twisted out Nocks. Once they employed the metal bands it was broken strings and cables. There are regular reports of broken and blown limbs with few shots. Not so with the 505. To be clear, the 505 is not just about 5 more feet per second. Mine clocked 521. I’ve heard of most recording speeds over 510. The highest speed I’ve seen was 529. One can use different arrows as long as they wear the Alpha nock HP. I saw one gentleman shooting a 540 grain custom arrow at 465 fps. That’s 261 ft lbs and over 1.1 slugs of momentum. I’ve had outstanding accuracy with mine and no issues. The cocking system is 5 lbs of effort. You can crank and uncrank as you choose. It’s silent and safe. With the E-Cocking system it is extremely loud and $400. I am a Ravin fan. I adore my R10! But in the 500 fps world, the 505 has got more to offer imo. That’s by a lot.
James28R Ha ha, James, It’s unfortunate that you seem to take opinions that differ from yours as a personal hit. You can like whatever you want. None of what I have previously posted was untrue. If you like reviews, that’s interesting. But there are far many more that I’m guessing you wouldn’t like.
Both crossbows you need to shoot heavier arrows , I shot both of these crossbows side by side 10 point was the better bow These are not for your average crossbow hunter limited string and cable life Timing issues , but these are stupid fast We put both bows threw a Chrono Ravin 510 fps with a 400 gr arrow 10 pt 524 fps with a 400 gr arrow But when they sell you the 10 point there arrows weigh 460 grains Go heavier with your arrows !!!
I got a Ten pt M1 that 9 " wide and shoots 370 fps with the 20" bolts and 100 grn heads and only about 6 to 7#'s. I switched out 100 grn with 125grn heads because I shoot 125 grn mechanical spitfires. Had it 1 archery season and killed 6 does and an 8 pt with it all the way out to -10 to 65 yds. The best X bow I have ever owned, before that I had a Barnett (fast but too heavy) before the x bow were legal in my state I was a bear compuond bow hunter for years, once you get older you got to get a x bow.... I would recommened a Ten piont x bow because they are USA made and built to last...
Do you have to tune these the way you do a compound? I would imagine bolt length, weight, spine, tip weight, fletching, all that comes into play in a compound setup as well and you''ll need to match the bolts to the crossbow the same way you would with a compound to get hyper accuracy. I'm sure you could probably tune the Nitro and dial in the bolts to get tighter groupings? someone correct me if I'm wrong
If you get a really heavy bodkin tip you can use a big broadhead at the back instead of fletching. As long as your cg and cp is correct it will be far more accurate. With this kind of power you are most likely going straight throw the animal anyway so no energy is wasted. Also you can shoot a really though target without your broadhead needing to cut anything during practice.
Ceoss bows in particular shoot better with more bolt weight. I had 2 excaliber bull dog 440s and always shot better with 450-580 grain set ups so typically a 100-120 grain brass insert and 125-150 broad heads helps alot with accuracy with broad heads and in the wind.
I ordered my 500E in April of 2021. I emailed ravin directly with BS response after BS response. I canceled my order with my local shop January 2022 after more back order delays then years I been alive. Very disappointed with ravin and when the day comes and I sell my R15 ravin will never see another dollar from me.
Just FYI, I have seen some incorrect speed readings from the Lab Radar. That sounds a bit slow based on the manufacturer information. I would take that reading with a standard chrony. Either way, these are totally different results from what I’ve seen.
How heavy of a broadhead can you shoot off the stock .001 bolts? Valkyrie makes broadheads that weigh up to 350gr. I'm curious what the trajectory would look like or if the arrow would even leave the crossbow without exploding.
Depends where you buy and what options you want. The Ravin you can find at OpticsPlanet for around $2500 for the regular R500 and up from there for the sniper package or the electric cocking. I also don’t see Ravin offer the garmin zeroxi optic or the oracle X anymore so if separate add another $999 for oracle X and around $1800 for garmin. The Ten point nitro 505 is at most the big stores like cabelas for example and I believe starts at about $3100 range and up from there like $3700 with Oracle X scope and around $4700 with garmin scope. So they are expensive.
As far back as 15 years actually. In 2009 the PSE TAC15 was introduced which shot a 425 grain arrow at 407fps. So I'd imagine the TAC15 with a 400 grain arrow would be around 425 fps.
I got the centerpoint cp400 and it alone has the same potential as these do in my opinion... 400fps vs 500fps... I've offhanded shot 100 yards and hit target with confidence... my thing is cost... i got my cp400 for 400 bucks( 50% off) thats $1/fps... those are $6/fps to $8/fps... $1000 is one thing(orginal price for a cp400 but 3 to 4 times that amount... that's crazy! Love the technology but cost is not worth it
I want to see them take the 900 ft pound medieval bow.either ten point or ravine.and and build it with modern technology and make it light as possible.with their technology.
I just watched “another “R500 review that rips on the cheap looking crank handle. I personally love it,it’s simple strong and light weight! I’m tired of adjusting my other Ravin cock handles!! Please,aesthetics don’t get things done. Like some say-Keep It Simple Stupid 😊
*this comment goes out to the creators of this crossbows.. Make a battery powered crank, instead of manually cranking the thing every time. If we the consumer are paying this much add a button to manually crank since that’s a “low” poundage a battery powered option should be Feasible. Your welcome. Anymore ideas email me I’m all original.
Ok as a guy who’s killed 2 Grizz and 7 150 plus bucks with an xbow due to a back surgery, Scorpyd 480 is the best xbow ever made, period. Jim takes PRIDE and always takes my calls. They use Barnsdale limbs and all reverse limb bows pay him because he invented that system. Also if you don’t have back or shoulder issues shooting a 500 fps bow is weird…. Use a bow. Ps at 500 FPS most mechanical heads will sheer blades off with even a rib hit. I can prove that from a friends photos. Just some thoughts…