RayLib 5 Released - The Easiest C/C++ Game Library Just Got Even Better 

Hey @raylibtech! Thank you for your amazing work!

Wgat games did u make and publish with it?

@@echoptic775 Any 2D game, simple 3D game. There is no Editor, so be aware of that! ;-)

@Red_Paper6495 True! xD Am I mistaken about Editor tho?

@Red_Paper6495 Same for almost all game frameworks. It's fine for a small project and not so fine even for a medium one ;-)

Their source code organization is a mess IMHO.

There's a problem of unnecessary complexity in at least C++ libraries (i've never done c#).

Wait a few more years, i think the version 10 is gonna be awesome😅

you are just hater@@echoptic775

Which switch Nintendo or another programing term I don't know?

@@jothamstephens104 yeah Nintendo switch

can you elaborate? As someone who has never delved into that side of game programming, what math or engine aspects someone has to develop to make a working game (not just a play thingy) for what I've seen it includes input, graphics, audio, etc. But am fascinated that if for example Raylib includes all that shabang, what else would one need.

@@cluelessdev3851 Well, after you've created the assets that you'll use, possibly with Blender if you're going the open source route, then you need to tell it what to load, in what way, where on screen to load things, which involves opening a context in whatever graphics library you use for the backend, OpenGL or Vulkan, which you won't have to decide if you use your system packages, assuming your system has a RayLib package, and you'll have to create the main game loop and logic. It doesn't provide a scripting language nor link such a thing into your app, though that's not too difficult to do, all things considered. I dislike certain aspects of Lua, but if you want a scripting language for your game you might find it more than adequate. Or if you've got the time and skill you could write a custom one or you could just do hot reloading and write plugins in the same language you're writing your game in. It would be interesting if someone made a complete game engine using RayLib and used some custom BASIC variant for the scripting language. *nudge*

@@cluelessdev3851 3d is a lotta math

@@cluelessdev3851 stuff like collisions, game physics, lighting - game engines like unity provide and do the math for you

i dont feel bad for you

Yes, it's clearly pronounced "Puh-Nog".

It's pronounced Pea-An-Gee, what are you talking about?

Clearly it's pronounced Pong.

No one actually compiles C/C++ projects by hand, they run a makefile script by typing `make build`, so it is pretty much the same.

@@abdullahtrees5204 fair enough, but figuring out what flags I needed to begin with took a bit of research

Most of the time to build a C project you just need to do: ./configure && make build && make install Or some variant thereof. A lot of projects are configured with autotools or cmake to handle the build pipeline, and don't usually require too much work to get running. Sometimes you'll be missing a dependency, but if you're on a Linux machine or using WSL, then it's usually as simple as searching the package repository for the missing dependency and then installing it. But some projects will also just include their dependencies as a git submodule, so sometimes you don't even need to do that because you can just clone the repository recursively.

@@garrettbates2639 well, I'm not a C developer so I wouldn't know how to set that up. I only used C because I had to.

@@garrettbates2639 I think you're confusing make and cmake, which the latter always has the recommendation to `mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..` before building the project. Also, it should be `sudo make install` as things are often installed where only root has access.

"C API pollutes the namespace" Sure but the 'al_' prefix example pollutes function names which imo is worse. I mean I understand why prefixes are used that way(because C has no namespaces) but it still looks bad, never mind typing prefix every single time. P.S. I'm a C# dev that dabbles sometimes in C so take my opinion with a big grain of salt.

@@marting.9613 What weird about it

C# is indeed nice to work with in general. I it is a bit like Java for sure. C# was actually created as I understand because of a licence brawl with Oracle when Microsoft put their own version of Java: J++, into Visual Studio and so they were forced to scrap J++ and they then created C# as the replacement wich was actually a good thing. Compared to Java C# is for one thing much less verbose and u dont have things like for example "Class.Class.Class.Class.Class.Class.Function()" wich seems to be a rule more or less with Java that u bury everything under at least like 7 layers of subclasses, boilerplate and other stuff. Was a while since I coded Java now however so this might as well have changed.

Raylib has C# bindings

@@hipno3477 Just going to elevate this comment as it has bindings for so many languages.

Not if there are loops

@@peddfast That's why I said most, not all.

@@rytif well i can use Odin itself with something like TIC-80 or in desktop-only apps. And you actually can compile your code to WASM. The only problem here is with Raylib as I can see. Also is it possible to build Raylib app for WASM with Zig or Rust? Or do you *need* to use C/C++?

I think you can, just make sure you`re using the tooling right, it can be really pesky sometimes

Congrats on learning!

It's funny because there's one guy on RU-vid that keeps pronouncing it gwee and I've only ever heard it pronounced as gooey.

@@anon_y_mousse idk I've always said "Gee-You-I" like spelling the letters of the acronym.

@@l_t_m_f Depending on who I'm talking with I'll do that too, to illustrate that it's an acronym usually. If I'm talking to someone else who programs I'll just say gooey.

That's comparing apples and oranges. SDL and SFML (and GLFW) despite having some extra features are fundamentally cross platform windowing and input libraries while Raylib has orders of magnitude more (and higher level/abstraction) features because it is an all in one game making library. To Raylib, SDL and GLFW are just backends.

The thing is, the installer is also unnecessary. The best way to get started is game-premake, the installer is for those who used it from the start really and to show people that there is an installer. You can use the installer in your own games.

I think you should be able to use the C documentation without issues, though. I've never used the python bindings, but bindings are usually just a mirror image of the C API. If there are any differences in the bindings, they're probably small, and they most likely follow some pattern you can pick up on.

@@skaruts there are 2 bindings for python one is more c like the other is more photonic. I will look into it again later.

It probably varies by distro, but I was able to install it through my package manager. I've only done a few examples, though, so I'm not an expert.

What are you talking about? It is up to you how you use raylib, the best way is to have it as part of the project and compile along with the game.

@@PurpleKnightmare im talking about running it as a stand alone to play around with, thats what it appears mike is doing in this video.. any linux version of any app needs to have an option to just directly install it via terminal or have an appinstaller version or just a standard zipped app that I can unzip and just run without needing to compile it first

use the premake version It's as simple as: ./premake5 gmake2 make

@@bes12000 You don't run it as a standalone anything. The installer program he's using to install it on Windows has a game built-in, but the library itself does not. You'd need to build an example project to get something like that. And building it is super easy, barely an inconvenience, even if your distro doesn't have a package. Just open a terminal, type git clone {url from GH}; cd raylib; mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..; make -j8; and if it fails because you don't have glfw installed, then do the same for it and just rm -rf the build directory in RayLib's directory then continue from the point of mkdir.

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Raylib: C based with bindings for basically every language. Bevy: Rust based with no bindings. Use rust or gtfo. Doesn't look that superior to me.

Bevy tried to be a full on game engine with its own ECS and stuff. Raylib is more like Pygame, a simple self-contained framework to render stuff, leaving everything up to you. I actually consider more minimalist libraries like Raylib to be superior to larger efforts like Beavy, very often you just need some graphics with no bloat but don't want to go learn OpenGL.

@@Clawthorne don’t know what you’re talking about.

@@rkvkydqf this guy knows what he’s talking about. Great comment. I agree 100%. But having an ecs along with the use of rust does make bevy really good imo. Rust avoids a lot of the bothersome issues of typical systems programming, also is much much faster than most system programming languages. Also more secure.

consider dont using rust

@@hxccz is it so unreasonable to want to use a language that isn’t at least 30 years old?

@@oliverwooding2066 actually yeah lol

Lighting is handled by shaders and has nothing to do with raylib.

@@PurpleKnightmare in the version 4 they added (I don't remember if it was created by an external contributor or not)an experimental RLGL example of dynamic lights using fragment shaders and it was a nice starting point for people who are not so experienced with shader programming

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