I don't know if it's because I played the ps4 version (where the character doesn't get into auto pilot mode in the Murphy levels), but I found the challenge competent and fair, not even close to the easiness of a Kirby game. Also, outside the main game, the invaded levels are VERY challenging, and a lot of fun.
PlatformerKid Yeah, I thought the challenge was more on the moderate side, slowly getting harder. I didn’t die as much as in Origins, but I didn’t find Legends so easy as to bore me. I played Xbox 360, by the way.
@@cancan8906 Believe me, when you try to get all 3 Teensies (yes, even the jester) on Quick Sand Invaded, come back to me when you need a therapist. 8-Bit Gloo Gloo made me cry of rage when I died very close to the end just because of one of the bomb's fireballs hitting me just because I jumped too high. The Dark Rayman levels were fucking painful, especially the first Olympus Maximus Invaded. 8-Bit Grannies World Tour is really trippy, and you really need to follow the beat to finish it after all the visual effects and distortions
It wasn't that hard but that one challenge level where you race to the finish while being chased by your evil clone really made me mad. I think it was the last one so of course it would be difficult.
Not sure how many you did personally, but I recommend everyone try and beat all the invaded levels. Some of them are incredibly difficult, and the feeling from beating them is immensely rewarding.
I wish I had the time to get through all of the invasion levels as well treasure challenges in Origins. Sadly I have a regular job that gets in the way...
Up there with Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze as one of the best platformers of the decade. Also I'm not certain that the game was as easy as the video makes it out to be. The time trials and dark rayman stages gave me a lot of difficulty, even if the game as a whole isn't very difficult.
I disagree with your commentary about the difficulty. Sure, if you are only aiming for completing the game in terms of going through the levels, then you will not have a very hard time. However, if you want to make a perfect run for each level, you will be putting in those hours to do so. I had to put in a couple of hours just to perfect a single level a couple of times because of how much precision was needed to grab everything. The game is a master class in level design on how to make accessible levels while giving people who want to master the game the opportunity to get rewarded for perfectly timed platforming to grab every collectible. That is also the game's greatest strength. It encourages you to become a better player through smart placement of items to encourage better platforming, while allowing less experienced players to learn the game at their own pace without having to hit a brick wall from massive difficulty spikes. The game can be easy or hard depending on what goals you set for yourself and that to me is a sign of a great platformer. Also, the issue with bringing up the difficulty from something like Rayman 1 is that that game is unreasonably difficult. It may be a fun game, but it has some pretty ridiculous difficulty spikes that would be considered bad game design by today's standards. Makes it hard to recommend to more than the most hardcore platformer fans unlike similar games from the 90's like the Donkey Kong Country series that have aged remarkably well.
YES! I got this game when I was six and I found it VERY difficult then. Now, I'm replaying it for the 20th time or something near that and am 100% it again, and 100% it is MUCH harder than just finishing it. So it was hard for me when i was six and it's hard for me now.
Man i love Legends, but you are right the difficult is a joke. I found that "yeah" feeling in the invaded levels, and daily challenges; specially the online challenges getting the Diamond cup was the best.
Rayman fan The difficulty may be easier than Origins, but you can't deny that they didn't do it right. I in fact just got two of my cousins into playing the game and they really liked it!
Aleksi Taunimaa not really, the second and third world are as easy as the first one. The most difficult world had medium difficult. Origins had 6 worlds and a last level that tested your skills. Legends has 5 worlds and the "sixth" world only has musical levels that we already played with not a lot of changes. Legends really needed another world with bigger difficult and a last awesome level with extreme difficult. Legends ending was even more anticlimatic than origins, with the delaying i thought they will fix origins mistakes, but sadly no. Instead of remaking origins, they should had made a new world plus a better ending.
Honestly the interesting part of this game is the challenges, trying to improve your level with all secret techniques Sadly the community is really small
Rayman fan Eh, I prefer my games to be on the easier side, I found plenty of frustration and satisfaction in those invasion levels, but even if it is satisfying to beat a hard level, it doesn't compare to how much I wanted to destroy my Switch whenever I kept dying in a stage. Also, kind of suprised there was no single mention of any level from Living Dead Party, the 8-Bit levels were a very creative idea and the game should get merit for that.
Origins is still my favorite of the two. Even if it is more accessible, I found origins much more compelling. Origins never wanted you to stop moving, and the level design complemented that. The fact that you had to masterfully collect as many lums as you could to complete each world, and the king lum being there to reward skillful gameplay, was much more entertaining than the purple lums, and the fact that I would often 100% a world with little effort.
Do you play Donke Kong Tropical Freeze? Every level is masterfully design with a different mechanic each one, instead of Rayman Legends which repeats mechanics in a world (is not something bad but is inferior than Tropical Freeze design)
@@cherrytheoryroyale4090 do you play DK Tropical Freeze? Each level has one or more different mechanics instead of Rayman Legends which repeats its mechanics in each world
@@bloodborneguy4697bro shut UP i dont care i played it too its good but not as good RAYMAN its good k we get it!!ok ok sorry for being so toxic but im just mad
Easy difficulty isn't really a sign of bad level design. Play new super Mario Bros 2 if you want to see some poor level design. Rayman legends is definitely lacking in the difficulty department though.
Hmm, Jelly, I wouldn't think he called it bad level design. I think he implied that the level design wasn't the best it could be to present the challenge one would expect in a platformer, especially as a sequel to Origins. I could be wrong, though.
New Super Mario Bros. 2 didn't have poor level-design, though. It just lacked innovation and imagination. If you want to see some REAL poor level-design, look no further than the blandness of Sonic Blast's stages or the rage-inducing levels of Megaman X6.
I didn't play Origins that much, but i have legends on my PS3 and it is a masterpiece. Art, gameplay, levels and music are so creative and fucking great. And idea of music levels amazes me to this day still. One of my favorite games.
My favourite think in this game was how they mixed perfectly the Underwater motiff with the Steampunk Motiff, having us travel through an elegant submarine.
Just started playing this on PS4 and I’ve been having a lot of fun with it. It’s available for free on PS Plus and I didn’t want to pass the opportunity to get it, good thing I didn’t. There are a few differences between the PS4 and Wii U versions; levels utilizing the touchscreen for Murphy in the Wii U version have his actions performed with the circle button on PS4, and you remain in control of your currently selected character rather than guiding a CPU-controlled Globox. Rotating platforms is done by holding the L1 and R1 buttons instead of tilting the controller. Additionally, both the PS4 and Xbox One version’s have non-existent loading times when entering levels due to their larger storage medium and superior hardware to the Wii U, and all art assets are uncompressed. On PS4, the touchpad is used to scratch off lucky tickets and the sounds goes through the controller’s speaker. Awesome review, as usual. I have a couple of ideas for future reviews; some are “How Bad is Without Warning?” “Is Full Auto underrated?” “Is Pac-Man World still good?” When I asked if you took donations I wanted to donate Without Warning to you; thankfully the game is really cheap on Ebay, to the point where you can find a brand new copy of the Xbox version for less than $10. Just a thought.
This game is one of the best games I ever played. Bar none. It and a few other games were the only fun i had on a PS Vita because that console was garbage and hardly had any exclusives and was mostly filled with boring Japanese novel games lmao.
MetalSonic1993 I had this on Vita too. My favourite game :D Vita did have some great exclusives although minimal (e.g. Gravity Rush, Tearaway, Uncharted: Golden Abyss)
That the truth sadly. The great games of the Vita have been ported or forgotten... Sony killed that beautiful machine. I'm waiting for Henkaku to release on 3.65 in the end of this year to hack my Vita and access the whole Vita, PSP and tons of emulators catalog c:
In the days of big budget games like God of war, the witcher and horizon...... Rayman legends absolutely shits all over any game when it comes to the fun factor. This is a masterclass on how to make a game!
Origins and Legends are terrific and Ubisoft deserves mad props for releasing AAA 2D platformers well after the genre's expiration date. Creative and unique and both deserved far more sales than they received.
I remember when I first played a demo of Rayman Legends on a Wii U in an old GameStop that I knew right away I want to get this game. it was supposed to come out in March of 2013 on the Wii U but because of how poorly the Wii U sold Ubisoft delayed the release of the game by developing multiple ports of it and I had to wait until what was it like in September of 2013 to get the game I think it was. I didn't want to have to wait that long to play the game. LOL! I had so much fun with this game and from my experience I think it probably was the best side-scroller ever made
I didn't get mine until 2015. I got a PS4 last of us bundle and it came with a $10 gift card for PSN. Rayman Legends was on sale at the time, so I bought it. Even though I really wanted a disc of it since I had Rayman Origins on disc for PS3.
Hey boss. Just came across your twitter post on REDDIT. The complete OG xbox game collection. Needless to say I am most impressed. 800+ games in such a short period of time. Mind boggling. OG xbox is the only gen of vgames of all time that I miseed out on along with PS1 and ps2 cuz I was working out of province for years and doing way too much partying. I'd love to see a vid showing off every single game by just glancing over the game cases. That would be top of the line. Your previous videos look damn good and just watched your 3DO vid. Well fkn Done! New subscriber 4 life. Great job my friend
There is the main game which is extremely easy as you said, but if you were to collect everything it gets harder and harder as you need more precise platforming and jumps. Then there are the invasion levels, which are hard but not painful. Then there is the dark rayman levels, very hard.
I've played this whole game with 3 friends co-op and it was an absolute blast from start to finish. Especially the football mini-game and the 8-bit music levels!
i finally beat this game.. this game is phenomenal to me.. i would say this is better than origins.. it improved a lot.. i would characterize it as having a rewarding level of difficulty.. in this review it was mentioned that rayman got hearts on the wii u game screen and also during loading.. neither of those things exist on ps4.. but anyway yeah this game is amazing.. i got it 2 or 3 yrs ago and never got into it, but recently my internet kept going out and each time it did- this was my go to.... i liked this more than origins... the game is very long.. has a ton of stuff in it.. a ton of variety, great graphics and sound.. i also appreciated not having to hear that chipmunk mariachi song 10,000 times like in origins.. also there is a ton of situational animation in this game and it made the game feel alive.. i actually lol'ed at some it.. the level design in this game is incredible and i feel that is the star of the show.. i think i would give it a 10.. i can't do a 9.5 because the inclusion of the origins levels (except this time w/o the loading) was very generous imo... the type of extra that merits a 10.. i hadn't played origins in years so it was nice going back
If Rayman was in smash, I want his d-tilt to be his sweep kick and his down smash attack to be his new crouching attack, where he punches the ground in place. I also want him to be able to run around the stage without falling off but still be able to run off the stage or ledge trump.
18:37 I’m convinced you had the music off, because WHAT!?!? I’ve been humming every tune in this game since I got it like a month ago!! Also, the Lum King song is really catchy, but I can see how it may get repetitive listening to it over and over There’s something that makes me like Origins more, and I don’t know what it is. I think it may be that the worlds are much brighter in Origins, and it had more of a story (not much more though) it’s a close call, I agree with both sides of the argument
a game isnt insanely hard it instantly becomes a bad game > > i like both origins and legends but legends is the superior game no matter how you look at it it just controls way better and its more fun to play through
While I love Legends, Origins has much more legitimate story content. The majority of play time in that game was from more actual stages, which threaded together an actually existing story with a real finale. When I beat Legends, I was SHOCKED that the game just ended like that. WHAT? Maybe they could've had the song the aliens were playing on the Dark Teensies wake up a beast which the gang would have to stop. ANYTHING. Also, Origins has that Land of the Dead theme, which is insane, and better level themes and concepts. Not to diss Legends entirely- the presentation blows Origins out of the water, and 20,000 Lums is my favorite world in any platformer, with Mansion of the Deep being one of my favorite levels in any 2D game. Fight me.
Haha, it's the only Tetris footage I had recorded and available. I was going to fire up the NES but decided to just use that instead. It's an obscure easter egg for those hardcore enough to know what it is :D
I have played countless 2D and 2.5D platform games over the past 33 years. You could even say I am an enthusiast of the genre. All of those games have had variable levels of fun factor, challenge, overall polish and many other factors. Rayman Legends IS one of the finest video games ever made, let alone one of the greatest 2D/2.5D Platformers ever made. It ticks every box in my view, for what a game should provide for the player. I love when you can feel the care and pure polish put into a game. This ensures a complete experience for the player. And honestly, the tipping point for any video game is how much bloody fun it is to play. The level of challenge, or lack there of, does not sour this game. Along with Origins, Shovel Knight and perhaps a select few others, Legends IS Legendary within this decade of games. Games like this magnify what made the 8 and 16 bit 2D Platformers of our youth so memorable.
i found this game pretty difficult, especially when i went for the collectibles! it wasn't *frustratingly* difficult, but it certainly wasn't easy! to me, anyway. maybe i'm just not very good at this game xD
Rayman Legends is my favorite game of this generation. It is timeless and deserves a 10/10 score easily. 20 years from now this game will still be fun and amazing.
I hate to be that guy but it's pronounced cav-e-auts not ca-veets. Regardless this game is amazing and is definitely one of my favorites. Good to see it getting some love.
think the graphics were better in origins.. i couldn't put my finger on it but over time i realized the reason is because legends oftentimes has a color palette.. like a green level is mostly green, an orange level is mostly orange, etc... while origins had more of a "pop" because there was more of a contrast in colors.. one way for me to put it is while origins looks like a painting, legends kinda looks like smudged painting
2:09 The cartwheel attack was in Origins So when you are in the air, hold down on the L Stick and your character would do a dive. You can cancel it by just attacking or you stop holding it down. So when you land on the ground while diving, you would just do a landing roll. Throughout the time you touched the ground and when you are in the roll/slide, you can just press the attack button and he does this funky attack and you can cancel it with a jump so what basically saying is that every move can be cancelled except the diving crush attack that creates a shockwave.
Great review, one thing I will add as a gamer who likes a challenge but also enjoys playing with casuals... this game being a little bit easier makes (the basic levels at least) the game a lot of fun to play with my friends. Too hard of a challenge would irritate them so I personally like that this game is a little easier .... however those invaded levels are strictly for my own enjoyment 😁🎉 Great review my friend! Really enjoyed it!
This is the best game ever made. Despite the Wii U version being the my least favorite version this game it is still a pure masterpiece. Down to the graphics soundtrack and game play there is no flaws to be seen what so ever.
I feel that missed on this one. Rayman Legends shines in the subtleties of speedrunning, once you start to control rayman in that way you realize how carefully crafted the levels really are, for example there is an entire range of movement mechanics I never saw you use once in your review. I think the developers made a game that was easy enough to appeal to casual players and younger audiences, the game you played, as well as a game for veterans who will really explore how a character moves and interacts with the environment. And while it may be fair criticism that the casual experience doesn't get hard enough before the credits I think the developers do a lot to open up this second half of the game to you by introducing timed modes and especially daily challenges where you quickly realize that you haven't been playing the same game. The whole game has been building an emphasis on speed and flow and its up to you to challenge yourself.
You got to keep in mind that most of the game's challenge is left in the returning Origins stages, and considering most people didn't play Origins, it's only a good thing imo
Great video! I have this for the Wii U and found it super cheap for the PS4 and have both. I see now I wish I played the Wii U one first. The PS4 one doesn't use any touch screen on the Murphy levels. You press the "O" button to make him switch things on/off and in the cake part, me moves and you have to time hitting the button as he flies in a circle. This game is worth playing again though. Yeah, almost forgot about that chicken part as it seemed rather early in the game. The music parts really brought a smile to my face that was hard to turn off for a while. Especially "Gloo Gloo" when I it became evident what it was a spoof of. The levels were a lot easier and the hidden guys were always hidden in the same way. Trophies on the PS4 are a nice, but to Platinum it, you have to compete online to up Awesomeness rank. Unfortunately it rewards the top 2% or so of skilled players the ability to do this in a minimum of 20 days or so, others 30days - 2,000 of grinding. NOT so Awesome....
I love this and the Origins games. i could have gotten them on the 360 or PS3 but something about the way the wiiu game pad makes it the best version to really play. It has its flaws but those can be overlooked due to the sheer beauty and grace this game has. Great video Kris... as always.
The only reason I played the Wii U version is because it was the first version I found in the Wild :) I really dig the gamepad stuff as noted, but it will be interesting to try a non-touch version at some point in the future. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I feel a persons experience with the "Murphy" levels in this game can differ with what console you play on, while the Wii u version has you using the Wii u game pad in creative ways and trying to get collectables to the AI, the ps4,Xbox, etc you just click b or circle to have Murphy do something and the challenge i guess is to find out how to get to the collectable your self
After seeing these five games, the Rabbids don't seem to be as crazy a concept/design, but maybe a bit more out of place. Hoping new Rayman games come out with the same passion as Origins, having a blast with the Wii version. With Legends and Rayman wrapped up, hope to keep seeing what you dive into next. Really appreciate the endeavor to be objective and thorough
Not hating or anything, but just wanted to point out that you forgot to talk about the movement system. You dont just run and jump like a simple platformer, you can do rolls, roll jumps and boost breaks. These mechanics explain why the first few paintings are easier than the others, is designed to let you play around with the movement.
I agree with others that the invasion levels make up a lot for the main campaigns lack of difficulty. Especially the dark rayman levels. That being said, I'd still say that it's easier overall than Origins. I even noticed that in the Origins stages remade for Legends, many of the harder ones had some obstacles removed to make them easier. I'd also vouch for the non Wii U Murphy levels as well. While you don't have quite the same puzzle element present in the auto controlled version, it's replaced with an enjoyable type of gameplay where you have to multitask by doing the normal platorming action, while at the same time focusing on controlling the new mechanic that each of these levels brings. It's a great way to do unique gameplay scenarios without totally changing the controls. The last chase level in Olympus in particular is an amazing example. You have to handle doing precision platforming and wall jumping all the while controlling Murphy to get obstacles and platforms into the right place. It's an amazing sense of flow.
It's a button press and the action is more set. In the Switch port it's the same. So say in the Wii U you need to draw you can draw anywhere in the area that the drawing makes the green platforms. In the other versions once near the drawing area the button press fills in a set bit of the blank part with a platform to use. So the game does the work as you play making it a harder game because now in the middle of you platforming you need to time button presses when the area is possible to be used. Meaning a lot of tight platforming in those is now you jumping and rolling while hitting the button in the few moments before you die.
Okay. I played this game a while ago and I know this video's pretty old as well, but after watching it, can we talk about how both this game and the prequel basically perfected a modern Sonic game? At least in my eyes it did. Just the flow and momentum structure of these games are what I feel modern Sonic games are kind of missing, whether 2D or 3D. There's wall-running and wall-jumping in this game that isn't just more or less an automated event or just press X/Square to win. Every obstacle flows into one another and allows for newcomers to plan out routes effectively in safe zones, while experienced players can blast through without ever letting go of the run button while pulling off precise and well-timed moves. I think this type of game-style is what a modern sonic game desperately NEEDS right now, and this game did in freakin' 2013. It's a game-style that doesn't rest on the laurels of Sonic's 2D glory days too much, constantly pandering to people who just refuse to let that type of Sonic go thus stifling any sort of innovation, but also doesn't sacrifice smooth, momentum based platforming for pure speed and level memorization like the modern 3D games. And the difficulty is just perfect. It's the endgame is where it's at. I did everything in this game because it was so rewarding and challenged me to perfect the momentum style through a level. Sonic Mania is cool, but if you ask me, this game is where modern 2D Sonic games should be at by this point.
For me it was really the open layout of what level to play that really made the difficulty just all over the place. Instead of Origins' tight progression of levels and then the expanded worlds after you get halfway through, Legends letting you pick whatever means the difficulty curve isn't a curve so much as it is a scribble.
I've noticed younger audiences at work seem to struggle with this game more than Rayman Origins. On the PS4/XB1 version of Rayman Legends, players have full control over their character at all times, including the Murphy sections. While Murphy is simplified to a context button press (PS4: Circle / XB1: B vs. Wii U Gamepad touchscreen), inexperienced players struggle to juggle both Murphy and platforming at the same time. I don't think these sections were developed with easy platforming in mind either due to the computer originally controlling the player's character in these sections of the Wii U version. One last side note: While players can jump in at any time for a co-op experience for all versions, there doesn't appear to be a way for players to actually drop out on the PS4 version. While the select button works fine on the XB1 version, the trackpad on the PS4 acts as a rather useless camera "zoom in/out". I think this is an oversight due to the lack of a "Select" button on the PS4 controller.
This is why Rayman is a Legend and why he deserves to be popular than Mario, Sonic, etc.😃😃 Rayman and Barbara will always be my favorite characters in this 2.5D platformer. Even though I own a Nintendo Switch, I already own Rayman Legends on the Wii U and I know that the Definitive Edition is out there. I hope we get Rayman IV or a 3D sequel to Rayman Legends with the new characters from Rayman Legends like Barbara and her other princess friends and I want male versions of the Rayman Legends Princesses to be introduced too😉😉 I hope Michel Ancel's interest in making Rayman 4/3D sequel to Rayman Legends comes true and gets released on all consoles especially the Nintendo Switch because Nintendo and Ubisoft have a relationship with each other since Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle was released
implantgames I think it has something to do with how she looks, how she acts as a firce warrior princess and not an ordinary damsel in distress like Peach from the Mario Series, how she is voiced by the same person who voices Rayman as well, and how Rayman and Barbara make a cute couple.
implantgames The only thing you left out is that in Rayman Legends, Barbara the Barbarian Princess debuted in the Rayman series joins Rayman's alliance and is possibly Rayman's newest love interest
I wouldn't really say Legends is easy. I get my challenge appetite sated by the invaded levels, some of which are harder than any of the tricky chests in Origins, and the online challenges.
Fantastic review of this game!I have never played the Wii U version of this game so I didn't know it had all of that touch screen manipulation of the levels. But you hit the nail on the head with the "Yeah" moments. While I found the game to be easier than Origins it was still as much fun but I too didn't care for all of the unlocks, most of which are pointless. Still a fantastic game!!
Wait, on the wii u version you don't have control over your character in murphy levels? That's weird. The part where you're chased by dragons in olympus maximus was one of the hardest moments in game. And yeah, you didn't bother to experience the hardest world once again, while it's pretty unique.
Yes this game is pure awesomeness. 1 of the best 2d platformers out there. Will u do someday a review of the Jumpingflash series on the ps1? Those are 3 real rare gems (part3 Japan only).
I'm surprised, I thought you were gonna end up liking Legends more than Origins. Glad you still enjoyed it though! I played it on the Xbox One, not the Wii U, so seeing the difference in Murphy's gameplay was pretty interesting. On other consoles, Murphy will show up sometime during the level. You'll play as the same character you were using before (Sir Globrax - the character that shows up in the Murphy sections on Wii U - shows up in other versions as one of the unlockable characters), but Murphy will fly to the nearest object you can interact with, and you have to press a certain button (B on Xbox One) to get him to interact with the object. I can't say for sure whether or not that makes Murphy gameplay better than on the Wii U version, but thought it was worth mentioning. I think Legends would still be my favorite Rayman game, though Origins is fantastic, too, and I can understand why you like it better. I even have a soft spot for the first game (though I never owned the PS1 version; I owned the GBA version, which was made to be easier, and the mobile version, which has a mode with unlimited lives). I can't wait to play the 3D games.
They are both pretty great games and the developers should be proud for the exceptional quality of the series from 1995-2013. It's rare for a games to span 18 years without fumbling, like Sonic ;)
Difficulty is an odd topic in the world of game development. On one hand, games like Cuphead are loved and praised for their difficulty and rewarding moments, but others will feel ripped off when 90% of a game's content is locked behind difficulty. Personally I prefer tougher experiences, although for me challenge will never be as important as how fun the game is. Rayman Legends is my favorite game because it's the most fun experience I've ever had, difficulty aside.
for me a lot of 90s games had a ton of content locked behind steep difficulty.. i had this game on genesis called lightening force for example, and i think it had like 8 levels but i only saw 4
I first played the whole game on a Switch and I found the Murfy levels pretty annoying since I got confused by having to control him with only one button to press (while also having to wait for him to move towards the obstacle I wanted him to interact with) and silmutaneuously controlling my character. It was of course totally doable but I didn't really like it all that much, especially in levels where I had to rush.
Only played legends so maybe I'm just a dumb newbie but I found this game to be pretty ball biting when going for those gold trophies. On a casual playthrough I can see these levels being piss easy but trying for all the lums and teensies definitely put me to the test. Probably helps that I played on PS4 so the murfy stages had my focus split on the player and murfy at the expense of murfy himself being on autopilot outside of the circle button Gotta agree on the end boss being a wet fart though
