For us Europeans its a no brainer to buy the GPX over the Viper right now... GPX has been selling for 100 EUR steadily over the past few months while V2 Pro goes for 160 EUR.
I think the best thing that the Viper V2 Pro brought to the market was lowering the price of the original Viper Ultimate. A high-quality "last-generation" mouse for $70 is a steal.
I like it most of the time but it’s annoying at times. So 95% great and 5% annoying. Try it out yourself. I preferred the mini but wireless is something I can not miss.
Here in Brazil the retail price is R$1250, wich is around $250.... so it is really off bounds for most people. But all hardware/peripherals are super expensive here :(
Yeah 1250RS is craZzzzy expensive, eating out is usually like 20-40RS range when I used to live there. Max 100, 100 is like a rly rly good place. 1250 is crazy
Biomed flexing time. The three muscles on the thumb side are called opponens pollicis, abductor pollicis brevis and flexor pollicis brevis. On the pinkie side the abductor digiti minimi, flexor digiti minimi brevis and palmaris brevis.
I remember that I did not like the G Pro Wireless but when I tried the Superlight it changed my opinion on the shape. I had a way better time with it simply because it was about 20 grams lighter. I'm not convinced lighter is always better, I still enjoy something around the 80-90 gram range, but for some shapes going lighter can change the experience entirely. Also, have you tried the new Puretrak MF1 pads since you really enjoyed the Phoenix SE?
feel exactly the same way been maining the superlight for about a year now, and actually kinda lost interest in mice since, even though i used to buy way too many mice ... now this v2 pro is making me interested again
Love your channel man! Your reviews are the most informative in my eyes. You look at stuff from a pro gamer perspective and bring to light details other reviewers do not. No 1 tech content for me at the moment! Thanks for doing this.
I did get my Razer Viper V2 Pro friday and it was the most perfect shape of mouse I have ever owned, but there is one big problem with my unit, it does have a lot of wobble on the left button and a little on the right on, so on the left click you can really feel the wobble when you're pressing down to shoot somebody. But on the right click it's not a problem and is crispy af.
love your honest answer regarding superlight vs viper v2 pro. Great video! I got myself a Puslar xlite v2 mini yesterday and i love it. Despite having a 18x9 hands (claw grip) it's just fits in my hand perfectly. Aslo i just can't go back to big mouses after using a razer viper mini, i feel like small shape gives me more accuracy and more ability for microcorrections
not really after heavy use of both, I can say VU has much better value by now. no need to mention that there are so many weight reduction mod you can choose from the market for the VU
thank you as someone with the ultimate ive really been debating upgrading but just wasnt sure if it was worth but i might make the upgrade if it goes on sale for the holdays
I know im late but i just got the viper v2 pro today and while i really like it the switches are really hard to press compared to the ultimate my question is does the switches get lighter over time?
I hate synapse, I know it has on board memory and you can delete but I'd rather not deal with synapse at all. I've also seen some massive QC issues with the v2 pro. I'm personally waiting for the XM2w.
I currently have a rvu and synapse doesn't run in the background but that's because I close it via task manager lol you may want to try that if it helps
i really want to try this, i can get it for 140$ but some says it's not worth it. plus my performance is better on smaller mice, maybe waiting for the small pulsar X2 or MM712 is a better choice. i think they'll release MM712 around July or August.
Suggest a mouse for me that is like Viper, but has hump for the palm contact. ...and has no stupid issues e.g. with switch quality. I absolutely love the original SteelSeries Sensei (still working 12 years later...), but need lighter and wireless version.
i have the pulsefire haste and i was thinking about getting the viper ultimate/v2 but the haste is a little too big for my hand, especially the grip width, the lenght not so much, how they compare? keep up the great work man !
sadly the flat angled back site of the mouse is a bit too long for my hand for a proper claw or fingertip grip and razer isnt bringing up anothershape for this awesome sensor so no razer mouse for me
Viper shape wasn’t for me so I gear to the g pro shape and I think that the qc on the viper isn’t there just yet but idk I will eventually purchase and try it when the price lowers.
Bettersensor better switches better coating and lighter than rvu usbc 4k polling and grips included with very good feet and build quality is also better as it has no creaks on the switches get the v2 pro
the superlight is more grippy? i didnt think there was a mouse that was more slippery than the superlight. It is great to see them pushing the limits to what the sensors and buttons etc can do but that shape will never like, so hopefully they bring the new features to their other lineups
Yeah I was like huh? I’m using the white gpx and it is the only mouse I have to have side grips on. Hoping the new viper that is on the way will be more grippy
The side plays of the m1 and m2 were pretty annoying because when I press all the way down and I do that due to using hold to aim in many of my fps games, the side plays created some kind of grinding when they move side to side. It’s pretty distracting lol for me. Other then that I love the mouse but I don’t like my mouse having anything that distracts me when I’m playing. Hopefully they can improve it in the next restock and I will definitely get another one!
Hey haus, I'm trying out the V2 pro as a huge FK2 fan and I know you are too. My grip and confidence doesn't seem to be as natural with this vs FK2 for some reason, same for you?
I think viper shape is more like what FK2+ would be, so a wider FK2 or shorter FK1, depending on how you look at it. Asking just out of curiosity, what is your grip on FK2?
advantages of viper ultimate: cheaper, comes with a charging dock, 2 extra side buttons. advantages of v2 pro: slightly lighter, slightly better switch sensor and connection. conclusion: unless u hate the rubber grips, the extra sides buttons or a proper pro player, save the cash you will be more happier with viper ultimate
@@hausgaming Is there a difference than the regular g pro wireless for low battery mode? I feel the difference immediately and begin missing my shots more often. Just happened to me again today. Aim started being worse than usual and I noticed the mouse was flashing red.
The mouse could literally be perfect. The problem of that mouse is the same problem that the viper ultimate and viper mini have, it's the front of the mouse. It's extended on both sides and the curve literally kills your fingers. I have small hands but I noticed that even people with medium or big hands reported to have a lot of pain using this mouse. And I have the same issue on a tiny mouse like the viper mini.
I tried to love the new Viper V2 Pro but I keep feeling myself going back to my good old (Logitech GPW Superlight) as even if I prefer the surface material, side grips and finger grooves from the Razer... I just can't stand the low back for my claw grip. I REALLY prefer the rear bump from the Logitech, it makes all the difference and otherwise they're exactly the same same weight on my scale, and same quality sensor to a point that no human could tell the difference so it's now just a matter of personnal shape preference. The Razer one I bought was also an Amazon return, and I don't know if it's me but it seems to sometime freeze or cause wireless interference when playing like I think it's my game that is stuttering while it's only the mouse that stopped responding and resumed 1sec later, does that randomly like it's quite annoying... Quality control issues maybe?
V2 Pro ($149) in wireless mode without an extra HyperPolling Wireless Dongle ($30) has essentially the same polling rate as Ultimate which is 1000hz. Viper Ultimate also comes with a charging dock which V2 Pro will never support, there is none in the market of wireless mouse that supports 1000hz so Ultimate is still better all around.
The performance between the ultimate and viper v2 is the same. People saying the sensor feels smoother or quicker is a lie, the reality is the feet on the v2 is smoother
@@hausgaming 4khz will push the performance , but at 1000hz there is no difference in performance or smoothness between both sensors. The difference between v2 and ultimate will be weight & button improvements at base without 4khz
@@nazarethproductions7095 The fact that you do not feel the difference does not mean there is no difference. I'm not sure what are you after with this, with any modern gaming mouse, the main difference in feel comes from something other than the sensor.
the v2 pro is 160€ here, mice are getting insanely expenive for questionable reasons. i mean you could justify it when these specs were THE BEST 1 1/2 years ago when the GPX came out or well the 200€ für the starlight 12 because it actually is something innovative, but you can get a xm2 wireless for 110€ pre order with the same spec's so why bother with the v2 pro, you feel me?
Not really, XM2 does not have the same specs. The only innovation the Starlight-12 has is using magnesium alloy with the shell, which I don't really consider a key whatsoever in a mouse. Not sure what you mean by the V2 Pro specs being the best 1 1/2 years ago? They are the best currently brother :). It's completely fine to think it's too expensive, I personally think so as well, but your points are not quite "on point"!
@@hausgaming no i meant the v2 pro compared to to the GPX basicly just pushed even again and they ask for a high price tag for progress logitech provided 1 1/2 years ago already. yes the starlight 12 "only" did the magnesium alloy shell, but i think it was a hard obstacle to get the machining just right instead of just using an injecting mold for a plastic shell, so you can justify the hard price. the XM2 is behind but on paper the XM2 wireless will be basicly the same as the GPX or V2 PRO and its starting at 110€ instead of 160€ and is made by a way smaller brand than these two and i meant because of that the price they are asking for the V2 PRO is way too high, just to clarify. also you can get a GPX for as low as 90€ when its on a big sale too. if you like razer you like razer and should get that mouse without remorse, but compared to the market the price is well disappointing. :)
@@breakies "XM2 wireless will be basicly the same as the GPX or V2 PRO" I'll believe it when I see it. No small brand has got wireless mice at the level of Razer and Logitech. No reason for me to assume EGG will match them first-try.
Okay, this is definitley not 10x better. But, like 1.2x. the sensor is overkill for me. Not so comfortable. The price is bit high for me. Not worth the money.
I wish microsoft did a 1.1 pro model like they did with the 3.0 or steelseries made a new kana v3 with truemove pro sensor better skates paracord/wireless with kailh 8.0 switches then i would have a new endgame but for me the 1.1 is still the best shape with the zoeie AM sk spawn mouse he never used ;) i only saw him using deathadder and 1.1
yeah apparently some reviewers are just pure bs , for that price with lesser features only better weight doesnt make it 10x better especially at the value of how much you can get an rvu with dock.
Too expensive . I will wait for it to drop price . ATM I'm happy with the Superlight . For £150 in UK it's not worth it . They will be forced to put the price down or they won't get any sales
Just bought it today. I’m just hoping it replaces my super light 😭. I am genuinely excited to go back to the viper shape, but I don’t know how I feel about it at the same time as when I did main the original 16k viper in 2019, it was good until I don’t know why but something fell off for me about the mouse when playing scrims, etc. love the vid bro! ❤️
If they release it on the same time as the g pro superlight than I will be ok with the price but they didn’t. 30k sensor is sweet but again not the reason to pay 150 before shipping 4500k is not going to make 40 euro difference g pro super light. side button are way better Logitech need to update there super light overall if you like customizing than ya 30 euros Exstra you can upgrade side kilk some kaile 8.0 and some corpad your set still 10 cheaper than razer v2
😂😂 I wouldn't say I'm recommending it, in my opinion recommendations are very person specific. At this price I can't widely recommend this over the Superlight!
I got the mouse and is really good no issues that other people mention. The mouse is cheap and even cheaper with student discount compare to Logitech g prox
Nice review but the point you bring up about the muscles in your palm and picking up the mouse shouldn't be a point to be brought up imo. Reason why I believe so is because no one picks up their mouse like that, like why would anyone want to pick up the mouse like that? 🤔 I tried doing the hand thing and it honestly does kinda make sense but if anyone plays games like that for a long time, I can see some serious hand issues occurring in the future. Other than that point I like your review so this isn't a hate comment just something I think shouldn't be used as a big point.
I think you must've misunderstood. It's exaggerated in the example obviously, you are not supposed to lift the mouse like that. I'm just showing what kind of mice can be controlled with your palm more easily
@@hausgaming The build quality, clicks feels different on different copies, lottery for a centred scroll wheel, scroll wheel too narrow and has too much side play. I got tired of it and ended up getting a Hati S Wireless which has been surprisingly good in QC coming from G Wolves. I respect Razer for this mouse as it’s pretty impressive with its sensor, I can understand new tooling, etc can affect first batches so I’m not going to rip on them too hard but personally the scroll wheel being centred is a must.
@@_paczki I have to agree on that hati s wireless qc. i come from gpx and expect it to be like shit but its very good on my copy, way better than something like my friend glorious o-
@@_paczki You are right, I have problems with the battery and the wheel is a little off center and it goes to the right if I push it in that direction. It's a great mouse anyway, I always wanted to try the hati wireless but it seems too small
RVU has no better either... even later editions like Mercury had very inconsistent quality. I would love a v2 pro right now but don't wanna have to hunt for a good copy after paying 160 EUR.
