Razor MX500 WANT more SPEED!! 23 MPH 

I would BUT I don't want to. I want to stay true to the bike, as a brushed motor. Plus this is the cheapest route to go. Sure brushless is cool but that 1800w kit at 48v ($450 roughly with lithium battery) still only hitting 27-29mph. I hit 27 with a 24v 500w BRUSHED motor, cheap 36v 1000w controller, and 36v 10ah lithium battery. Depends on your endgame I suppose. I am more than happy with my setup. Maybe a bigger battery. 14ah lithium?? We shall see

This spring will be a lithium battery upgrade. Stay tuned....

Well, the lithium pack was installed a few days ago. Let me tell you, I hope I can make an exciting video. I was pretty excited after riding it.

Hopefully get a new top speed video up in a few days.

@@bdrgarage7039 looking forward to see the new video

@@mmmasterscross7915 yep, definitely shocking. It has a 36v 10ah lithium pack now. This video has worn out lead acid 12ah.

@@mmmasterscross7915 I had finished the video, but I found there was a lot of wind noise in the beginning so I'm going to change that tomorrow and get it posted up with the new top speed and lithium battery

@@mmmasterscross7915 New video is finally up. Check it out and let me know.

Yeah, they are listed in the description.

Mine is definitely quicker off the line, but doesnt last long as my sla batteries are not that good. Next is a lithium battery. How are your batteries??

What happen to the 36v over vaulted razor ? What’s the top speed it hit ? And any links to the things you purchased to make it faster ?

This MX500 or the PR200?? I have both. This MX500 is in storage. Its winter here and switch to snowmobiles. In the spring I will swap in a lithium battery for better performance. The sla batteries are terrible and I have to roll on the throttle plus its maybe 2 miles at full speed with the lead acid batteries. The pr200 was on hold but will be back this year. I will list the parts for this one in the video description in the next few days.

For this video, yes, stock is a 36v 500w motor, 36v 500w controller. I installed a 24v 500w motor and 36v 1000w controller. The lead acid batteries eventually couldn't keep up. I went lithium and there is a more recent video of that in my video section.

@@bdrgarage7039 what’s that speed app called

@@bgexe3692 it is just called Speedometer, particularly the one with 69 on it, now there are others.

They are fun. Especially with a little more speed.

Hey, it is installed. Just figuring out how to do the video. Soon. Maybe posted in a week.

Awesome!

New lithium battery installed and video is up. Check it out and let me know.

Hey, thanks for the question. This video was with the original sealed lead acid batteries, the 24v 500w motor is around $65-$80 (ebay or Amazon) the Fast scooters controller with voltage display was about $70 on ebay. After that I bought a lithium (36v 10ah, $165) in a second video on my channel. It was not big enough for the output. I upgraded to a 36v 20ah ($225) battery. Its an awesome setup. The 20ah with 1/2-3/4 throttle will last around 1.5hrs. But cool down is needed with the overvolted motor. About every 15min.

@@bdrgarage7039 thx

@@VaultBoy-kz6ed absolutely, let me know if you have any other questions. All my videos are to help others.

I just pulled one out, not including the head of the screw, 59mm long, Phillips head (originally) 5mm thick. So M5 x 60mm with locking nut.

Very nice. I usually source parts from ebay, sometimes Amazon, and the third place is electric scooter parts dot com. I very much like Fast Scooters controllers (ebay). I went on this setup with the 24v 500w motor to get the 'overvolt' effect without adding an extra battery. On the pocket bike and 3rd battery under the seat works. I have an older video of a 36v pocket bike which will be in a future video again. Thanks for watching.

Yes, only because it is getting 36 volts. When you throw 12 extra volts at a motor you get roughly 50% more watts and rpms. Rpms are where the top speed is. Similar to putting a 48 volt setup on the original 36 volt motor. I originally ran lead acid batteries so it was easier to fit the original three batteries instead of trying to fit a 4th battery. Thus the 24v motor swap.

Wow that's amazing! Thanks

@@bdrgarage7039 does the 24v motor bolt directly in or fabrication required?

@@tylerangieslayton7455 Slight modifying, the case is the same size. But the bolts stick out, you can either swap the end cap and bolts from the old motor or I believe I shaved the bolt enough the fit. Only one on the bottom. I went 24v because the 36v lithium packs were a lot cheaper at the time.

Wow! You are hardcore. I was going to do a brand new controller and throttle along with a 24 volt 500-watt motor. That is basically overvolting. Instead of going to 48 volts and trying to fit 4 batteries in my trays with my stock motor I went to a 24 volt motor to keep my 36 volt setup. I was simply showing in the beginning that I actually gained about 1-2 mph just from the controller. In the end with both modifications I was doing anywhere between 23 and 25 mph. The 25 was on a slight downhill. I have done probably 15 overvolt razors and all of them ended up around 23 mph. I do this for fun and hope I can help people out. Sorry if my description wasn't up to par . I try to do minimal editing and obviously the GPS was wrong at that point. Any other statistics you want let me know.

@@bdrgarage7039 Sorry for the brusk tone of my prior comment. It was just a confusing difference. Updating your description's parenthetical to (video showed 22mph due to a GPS error) could make it more clear. Since you've done many other overvolts, have you done any with just the motor swap and keeping the stock controller? Just curious. Finally, I ordered the controller you linked to yesterday based on your video for my SX500 so you are helping people. Best.

@@scottkuban5 it's all good. Also sorry if my tone was out of line. I like to show real world data and that there can be errors. I put that whole bike together in an hour and a half. No I haven't done an mx500 with only the motor. But I have done quite a few mini choppers with a true 36 volt setup. Very difficult to fit 3 batteries and that little tray period but 23 mph every time with a 185 lb on it. I have done a handful of E300 scooters, also 23 except for one that had a really old controller. That one would hit 20-21. At the point I've only doing the motor, I'm pretty sure it would still hit 23. Considering I was 23-25. The next thing I want to do after the lithium pack is to put brand new wheel bearings in and get my wheels Trued in. I believe at least 1 mph could be gained from the less resistance of the new bearings and straight wheels. Lots of people go with brushless setups and you can but I have heard so many problems trying to set them up. I was looking for a cheap quick modification. The only reason I swapped my controller and throttle was to put all my stock Parts on the Shelf in case there is a problem I can always go back to stock. My stock setup was originally 16 to 17 mph with me. When I get a chance I will change my description

@@bdrgarage7039 FYI I just did the lipo battery upgrade and saved 19 lbs (while increasing the Ah to 20). So my SX500 dropped from 94 lbs to 75 lbs.

@@scottkuban5 thats awesome!! So what is your setup?? I am currently installing a 36v 10ah lithium ion pack. Came with a charger video soon.

Absolutely. Know when you overvolt the 24-volt 500-watt motor it's equivalent to about 750w but you get about forty to fifty percent more RPMs which is where the speed comes from. Most people with the 650 motor overvolt them to 48v. A 48 volt 1000 watt controller from Fast scooters, and get a 48 volt 14 amp hour minimum lithium battery. That will you save money on swapping a motor. But the battery will be more. It was roughly 325 bucks to do the modification oh, that was motor, controller and throttle, and lithium battery. I know the lithium battery was not in this video but it is done and I will be making a new video soon with more mph!

@@bdrgarage7039 do I have to change the battery ? To a 48

@@surronsterfanpage425 if you want to 'overvolt' and have a stock unmodded mx500 or mx650, than yes. 48v with either a 48v controller or mod the stock controller, which I will do a video in the next month. OR install a 24v 500w motor 'like mine' and a cheaper 36v lithium battery.

@@bdrgarage7039 but can I keep the stock battery and motor and get the controller and still go 20 mph

@@surronsterfanpage425 the only way to gain more speed without changing the battery or controller is to change sprockets. Front bigger and/or rear smaller. 1 tooth front or 10 tooth rear to start. You will lose takeoff power and hill climbing capability. Chain resize with a rear sprocket change. Check sprockets at electricscooterparts.com

Well I have five, oldest one is 5 years old and is still trucking well. Unfortunately you just must have had a bad experience. And I believe it's only one or maybe two people that work there. I've even used the cheap $25 ebay ones with no problem. You might need to upgrade to something even bigger with a USB port