I never understood why the gang never sent Sadie to Blackwater to get the loot. She wasn't involved in the robbery so the authorities there don't know her. She could stroll around right under their noses... could have done some Blackwater side missions as Sadie.
Yeah, that's a pretty good point. On that note though, I really hope that they incorporate Sadie in future games somehow. Maybe even give her her own game at some point?
@@georgepaul1613 if she didn't make it back with the money, the gang would have been no worse off than they already were, and with one less mouth to feed. There was no other way they were going to be able to retrieve it. It's either take a chance on Sadie or forget the loot completely. I'd have taken a chance on her.
Ya I really felt that Arthur should have been able to sneak in at least. No real reason for the Pinkertons to spawn on top of you and know where you are. Then the sniper that auto headshots you if you make it past new Austin. Like really R*? Y’all had to cut 50 hours from the game, but made sure to put that in? Like it’s dumb to restrict map size in a game, but to restrict challenges with the map is trying to govern how people play and is just pathetic for a company like them to do
@@shermutt With an RDR3 storyline taking place a bit before "The Blackwater Massacre," You'd have to play as one of the people who died during it. (I believe Jenny or Mac) Since the game is called "Red Dead Redemption," There'd have to be a way for one of them to get redemption. Maybe such as saving another one's life or something.
@@kieferharmon8094 Yeah, I suppose that could be an interesting setup. I was actually thinking a cool idea for at least one of the sequels (prequels?) could be you playing as Arthur's father. If you notice in the picture of him at his camp (a mugshot where he is being charged with larceny) he is wearing Arthur's hat. It just seems to me there has to be an interesting story in there somewhere. Possibly, involving more of a post-civil war era and maybe even set in (or including) a different part of the country.
@@shermutt That's actually perfect! Because Arthur mentions that his father was a horrible man, so it would be a great storyline for his father to get redemption somehow as well. Otherwise I say, stop going for the past and start a story with Sadie. She's complete badass and she'd be perfect for a RDR3 story
@@paco680 The old Bronte glitch (as i understand it) would allow you to replay the mission while standing in a specific location, then when you came out of the mission, the sniper fire would cease. That's patched, but there is a new variation of it where you essentially just get wanted during the Angelo Bronte mission and then just go to New Austin instead of camp while the mission is still active. The downside of the new one is that there are a lot of things you can't do while in the mission, you have to do it on your first playthrough of the mission (you can't retain things from replays), and if you die before you end the mission, you lose it all and have to start over. There are other ways (buggy method, carrying a carcass) that allow you to block the sniper fire, but nothing that can make it stop completely like that old glitch did....yet.
I just started playing RDR2 and I don't get how Rockstar gives you the Legendary animal/fish missions early in the game as Arthur, yet you cant even get all of them until late in the game with John. Rockstar Logic...
Yeah, i don't get that either. The one that makes the least sense is how you can't complete all the challenges with Arthur simply because of 4 measly herbs that only grow in New Austin. I mean, fortunately people have found workarounds to be able to do it anyway, but stuff like that just seems like an oversight on their part.
Michael Millican My theory on this is that R* was thinking of The Legend of… titles as being something the player achieves, as a gamer. But then all of us players see them as John and Arthur’s achievements. It would be such a great gesture if R* changed that to match how people actually play the game and how we see (and love (and live)) the characters.
All mission could actually be done by Arthur Legendary fish ,animal and dinosaurs bones. Cuz the dialogues are really include Arthur’s voice in all mission So we can actually done all the side mission without John
@@selinakhoo8206 Yeah they changed quite a bit from the game late in development to rush it(No doubt Take Two had something to do with this) such as the Prologue and Ambarino, and this was one of those changes.
Now that this game has been out for a few years Rockstar should really get rid of the sniper, Everyone has already explored New Austin as John now anyway, Let people have some fun. This is why I miss the old PS1 & 2 days with cheat codes that still let you save the game.
Hey, no problem! I don't know that RU-vidr specifically, but yeah, i hate being strung along, so I'm not going to do that to anyone. Thanks for the kind words. :)
@@shermutt well lets just say he loves to make clickbait videos on Rockstar games and steals other video ideas from people, and when he does make a video about a certain thing he never gets to the point yet bc he loves to milk the time on his videos for money.
@Billie The Aussie Gamer hey cool man, that's really refreshing to hear! I don't want anyone to feel any pressure, plus idk how many more videos I'll even make. I enjoy making them, but I only want to if I feel like I'm covering original stuff that actually adds to the overall game. I have a couple more in the pipeline, but I'm totally just doing them for fun, so not sure when I'll actually get them out. I'll be sure to check you stuff out too!
Thank you for getting straight to the point. You're an awesome RU-vidr/streamer specifically because you *didn't* do all the annoying, clickbaity things that RU-vidrs and streamers are known for.
Dang more people need to see this but this could lead to it being patched! I was also hoping to get a appolosa that Arthur can't get but this has been interesting to watch. Thank you for showing this.
Haha, you bet. Yeah, honestly, I think R* may have just given up on patching stuff on here unless it's really OP or cuts into their bottom line. Hopefully this one will stick around for a while because it's fun to play with. And if you mean the Leopard Appaloosa, yeah idk of a way to get that early. I guess you can get Trelawney's horse in ch 4 if meet the right requirements, but i haven't heard anything about the white and black one. Good looking horse too! Shame.
I can't wait to try this out--thanks for this! After playing the game several times, I now just live in chapter 2. I keep finding new items and places and interactions, collected some plants and journal entries in Tall Trees and on the outskirts of Blackwater (by having a very fast horse), but hadn't figured out a safe way to walk around inside the town itself. I hope R* let us keep this one--it'd just be fun to wander around Blackwater a bit and look at things as our man Arthur! (Let us have our fun, Rockstar!)
Awesome, that makes me happy! I hope it works well for you, but feel free to let me know if you have any trouble. I'm actually doing the same thing currently. I've made it a mission to try to do everything I possibly can do during ch 2. So far I've managed to do darn near everything in New Austin using the buggy/carcass methods (including the Elemental Trail Treasure and catch all the legendary fish...videos coming soon). I'm currently working on trying to get the tiger striped mustang (although apparently I'm not the first to think of that one) and I vow to get the Otis Miller chest looted before leaving the chapter! Not sure if you know these, but during both the rev Swanson mission and the first Mary Linton mission with Jamie, you can go down and explore Great Plains/Tall Trees freely (minus Blackwater). They are both great for stress free exploration of the area. I've also heard you can do the same thing with the serial killer on your horse, but I haven't tried that myself. Enjoy!
@@shermutt I didn’t know about exploring during Mary Linton and Rev. Swanson missions! I went to Tall Trees with Charles during the final chapter 2 mission, and I like Charles a whole heckuva lot but he pestered Arthur the entire time about getting back on the right route. Can’t go into Blackwater proper on that mission, either.
@@SPQRKlio Well, I've got good news and bad news there. I did finally manage to open the chest and loot it, but for some reason it won't let me loot the gun, only the pictures. It's really frustrating. I'm hoping that after doing a couple of missions it will work, but I have my doubts. So, either my game is coincidentally glitching out on the one thing I've tried to do more than anything, or they've programmed it so you just can't get the gun that early. If all else fails, I might restart a new game and just try it on that too see.
@@shermutt back when the game launched and the new austin glitch existed you could use it as I had it with Arthur. Did everything you could do back in chapter 4. Only thing was once I finished the Epilogue I didn't have shit left for John to do lol. Also Arthur writes and draws way better than John does. Since all that was in the game, I'm assuming at one point in development it was supposed to be totally open but for some reason they changed it.
Never understood why they restricted it when they did record many of lines with Arthur during New Austin and Blackwater. Even Jeremy Gills cutscene is cut, yet there is dialogue with him there. Deborah scene still exist in final version with Arthur, but for split second on the way out can be seen Johns animation.
Oh interesting, I didn't know those. I'm currently working on figuring out a way to get all the legendary fish in ch 2 and I currently have all the NA dinosaur bones, just haven't collected all the easy ones, yet, haha. I'll have to keep an eye out for the animation change then. But yeah, I always thought that the idea for restricting it was to save some new content for the epilogue. If they just let you do everything as Arthur, then the epilogue might seem more boring? Idk. Either way, it gives people like me fun challenges to try to get this stuff anyway, haha.
@@shermutt Thats probably right. They figured out at the last moment that Jack wasnt used as much as John in original because you can get 99% of stuffs with John by the end of the game while with jack is 2 outfits (which oddly was done on same way with John in original. He did wear those outfits in screenshots) and last mission. They did rush this very fast in the last year and left too much stuffs in the game. Game is undercooked. But they couldve gave SnyderCut by returning these things back with Chapter 0. They already did with Scholarship Edition.
Yeah, that's so weird. R* is absolutely insane. I don't understand why they're so obsessed with policing our fun. Other dev teams hear about fun things people do in their games and they patch games to make those fun things easier and more accessible. Not R*. R* hates when people sandbox in their sandbox games. We always find new ways to do the things they try to stop us from doing, but R* just keeps wasting their valuable time and energy to try and make certain we only engage in their own limited idea of entertainment, making SURE we can't make our own fun.
I always love exploring Tall Trees and Great Plains while saving the Reverend since you can’t become wanted. Might try this out soon to actually see the town!
Ah, good tip! I didn't know that one, but I recently discovered that you can do the same thing when you rescue Mary Linton's brother, Jamie. He'll hang out with you and smoke cigars every one in a while. It's pretty funny. 🤣
@@shermutt Jamie is honestly cold blooded, he’ll shoot anyone who fights you lmao. But Swanson is hilarious as he’ll keep making funny noises until he passes out. From then on he’ll be in an eternal sleep until you beat the mission.
Yeah, it does. However, i did a lot of messing around with it yesterday and sometimes I was able to lose the cops again even after crossing back out of the line. I also may have discovered an easier way to do the whole thing, but it's inconsistent. I'm going to play around with it more and maybe I'll post up another video if I get it worked out better.
The only issue I or should say “we” have from this game is the fact we can’t explore new Austin with Arthur, I mean all these legendary animals in new Austin to get for the trapper can’t be possible because they are in New Austin. They could of at least let us explore as Arthur and made it so that you can explore as long as you don’t get spotted by a lawman then you become wanted for example on the mini map it would show in red a lawman and you just make sure you don’t get spotted by him easy as that so that we may get what we want/need in New Austin as Arthur.
I agree. The invisible sniper feels like kind of week game design in terms of keeping an area off limits. There are still ways to explore down there if you bring something to block the sniper fire (carcass or buggy are the most effective), but they are pretty time consuming. I think the theory behind restricting NA access in the main story was so that there was additional "new" content saved for the epilogue. Still though, not letting Arthur down there down there doesn't really make sense story-wise.
you know, I have visited West Elizabeth without any cops spawning during the very first Beau Grey mission in chapter 3. when the teen romantic music is in the background. the one in which you have to give his letter to Penelope. it was nice to reveal the map of the WE region by simply riding on your horse. but once you get inside New Austin, you are dead. invisible snipers kill you instantly.
Idk why Rockstar won’t let us just go all over the map as Arthur. I finished this game once, and whenever I see the sunrise for the last time, I start the game over. I don’t like playing as John, and I don’t like his story, and I just don’t like John. Thanks for the video.
I got lucky on my 5th playthough...came across one of the ladies who's horse had dropped dead asking for a ride to Emerald Ranch, only her horse wasn't dead but just standing there..It was a Missouri Fox Trotter. Never switched saddles so fast in my life lol.
Ooh, nice! I've personally never had that happen myself, but this is also only my 2nd playthrough. Supposedly, if you find that encounter, you can run away and run back and sometimes the horse will respawn alive. I guess you can keep doing that until it works, however I've never tested this myself, so use at your own risk.
I got it through the Arcadia for Amateurs mission. There is literally a SDP MFT he wants to take a photo off, I just skipped the cutscene and ran straight for it, found it and for some reason couldn't mount it so I jumped on it and managed to tame it, unfortunately I hopped off and couldn't get on it again, I had to jump on it from my horse again, go back to the stable, saddle it up and boom it was mine.
Fantastic (I've done it all to 100%) but this vid is soooo damn helpful for others wanting to go there earlier than normally allowed. You make great vids, I had to sub.
@@frog9757 no, you get shot if you try to get to New Austin... Great way to explore Blackwater I've found is if in Chapter2 - get the serial killer man called Edmund Lowry, hogtie and put him on your horse - instead of taking him to the sheriff of valentine you can enter Blackwater with no lawmen or Pinkerton's shooting you. It works 100% as of April 2023.
Pro: Arthur gets to enter Blackwater! Con: Blackwater’s effectively a ghost town & you can’t leave. Bro you can get the Red Arabian by going north east of Lake Owanjila and taming it just like the white Arabian.
Yeah, unfortunately they chose not to really open up the town until the epilogue. And yeah, I know about the red Arabian, but it's stats are not quite as good as the white and black. Same with the warped brindle. I was hoping to get the rose gray Arabian in blackwater, but just like everything else, it doesn't even show up until the epilogue, unfortunately.
I think you can do it cause bounty hunters won't be allowed into Blackwater because of the lockdown. Once you're inside and not caught by the police, you are fine.
Filling all of great plains with insta kill cops and new Austin with an insta kill sniper is probably the worst decision in this otherwise amazing game. All they needed to do was just have you permanently wanted in blackwater and maybe have a few regular police wandering around great plains, new Austin should be completely open to explore once you get through all that. I really don't yet why they did that too, armadillo's saloon owner literally has black hair to signify that hes younger, and the missions where you catch fish with that guy near rio bravo has voicelines for Arthur.
I did the same thing as long as you don't go near the money at black water. Which located near the bank and workers camp .a wagon with crates and the chest is below the wagon surface. You can travel anywhere without causing total lockdown and massive police and Pinkerton and snipers presence.
That's awesome shermutt and you're gonna have lots of fun. Even as Arthur morgan you can encounter Famous Brutus Grizzly. But I used him to ambush the bounty hunters whom where chasing me. Plus enjoy Otis miller treasure and others as well. The black flower painting and native American necklace is great add and from RD1 . ENJOY my friend. Happy hunting.
@@michaelmiller9938 oh wait, hold up. You're talking about New Austin stuff. Are you saying that you were able to get into New Austin by doing this, or am I misunderstanding? If so, I've definitely never been able to do that (without using a buggy or carcass over my shoulder to block sniper fire). Any more details you can provide would be great! Thanks.
Shermutt also big game hunting and you can cross the water get so drunk at Mexico border and you end up in Mexico. At the devil's cave you close to wall get so drunk it spawns you out the map and can hunt multiple animal's where snow meets the desert.
If you’re a Rockstar employee, go fix other problems such as when gang members keep saying “you’re gonna catch a cold” even if you have a goddang fur coat on. And we’d like to take off the off-hand holster and take out Arthur’s shirt and buy Navy Revolver. Support your fans!!!
I think Rockstar decided to just nerf this part of the map rather than fix every way of glitching into it. I was able to ride to Blackwater with the serial killer on my horse but none of the Blackwater plants were available. I rode all the way to the New Austin border, then the sniper started shooting at me. Never saw a posse though.
Ahh, cool to hear that it let's you get in there with the serial killer. I didn't even think to try that. Thanks! As far as plants go though, prairie poppy is really the only plant you can only get in great plains. You could either use this glitch to get it, or you could just kite the strawberry police in the and pick some while they are searching for you. Or if you really don't give a crap, and want to do it the fastest way, you can just run in, pick some quickly, and try to run out before getting wrecked by the pinkertons... I think i went with option 3 when I did it, haha.
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This glitch is awesome! I had no idea about it until I saw it a few days ago and decided to mess with it. Had zero luck, did about 15-20 tries and since one of your tips said you had more success with going out and back in I decided to go for that strategy as the chase was already happening but I still had the cops together, in a tight group, after me so I went out and back in and then stuck to the borders until I reached the pier and somehow lost them and just the guy on the pier spawned but never saw me. So it actually worked. And wierdly, I was going clockwise. I would say it definitely works and still needs more testing. But to me some things are mandatory for it to happen: - always have the map set to "Expanded"; - gather as much cops as you can, run throughout town a lot before going north; - fast horse and have a good distance on them during the chase; - if it doesn't work during the first few tries I suggest crossing the border to Great Plains and coming back, since that was the only thing that worked for me. Also, at nighttime Pinkertons started spawning in town which was weird to me so my guess is either the game resets at some point, I got too close to the borders or just the glitch works for a limited time. If you can check the video for me and see if I am doing it right or wrong that would be lovely: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PXs1YrF7U0E.html Thank you! 🙏
AWESOME!! I just watched your video and you did a great job! Thanks for taking up the torch on this one. It has some real promise, butI just can't get a consistent enough/better method together to make another video about it. I've messed with it a whole bunch over the years (I play pretty sporadically) and have had success doing it a few different ways. Most recently, I had it work by having the cops in Blackwater kill me, respawning back in Strawberry, then going back dawn with another lawman in tow. When I got back into blackwater, only a very small amount of lawmen spawned and were easy to lose (similar to how they behave after you get the glitch to work) and the town was clear! I thought "wow, this method certainly has potential and would be much easier for other people!" But unfortunately, I couldn't replicate the results. Half the time I would just spawn back at horseshoe overlook, and the times that I did spawn in Strawberry, it just didn't work the same way. I've also had it work by just charging back through the Pinkertons in Great Plains right after dying in Blackwater and being able to lose them all easily again too. Again though, not consistent enough. I only could get it to work that once. I think there might be something to the dying then going back method, but I can't figure out exactly what the conditions have to be for it to trigger the right way. Maybe you could play with that and figure something out? I like the expanded map tip. I never change mine, so that never occurred to me that it could have anything to do with the success. Not many people that have tried my method have reported success, so maybe that's why? Again, I'll be sure to comment on your video as well, but thanks for all the great data!
@@shermutt honestly I have no idea why the game sends you back to Strawberry as it happened to me as well but Horseshoe Overlook is something else! lol I think the whole glitch is about confusing the game after managing to lose the wanted level since it can't spawn the Pinkertons on you because you're still inside the borders but at the same time having the expanded map prevents it from spawning them right next to you (as it usually does since it's the same cop system as the one used in GTA), plus of course the already huge amount of lawmen spawned. As for the dying and going immediately back to Blackwater maybe it delays the Pinkertons since you have already died once and the game doesn't expect you to cross the river and get to town that fast. That also proves what you say in the video that "you don't really need the Strawberry lawmen chasing you", as long as you can sneak into town unseen, which can be done by going around the Upper Montana River coming from the northeast. P.S. Btw I was about to give up and the very last try made the difference for me so I am pretty happy to have managed to pull it off! 🙂
Well with the bounty from Strawberry on the back of my horse, i could manage to visit some of the red area near blackwater and some of new austin without triggering the wanted or the bounty hunters spawning
For fast horses, I just got the Perfect Horse mod. It gives any horse you ride with maxed speed, acceleration, health, stamina, and also elite handling lol. Perfect for when you want to ride a Mustang but hate the poor stats.
Hey, thanks. I keep meaning to, but just haven't gotten around to it. I do have a few that I still want to make that I feel like would actually contribute, but I just don't want to get into the habit of making them just for the sake of it, if you know what I mean. But I really appreciate the feedback and I'll try to get more out. :)
@Shermutt - Thanks for your content. You should keep doing these. 👍 Saw where you guys had a discussion about RDR3 ideas. I don't think people are ready to let go of Arthur. My idea would be to reveal that his meeting with the time traveler (Sinclair?) was more significant than anyone thought. Arthur (Maybe with the help of Sinclair unlocking the mystery of time travel) can make right everything that went wrong... ("Final Redemption?") save Jenny, Davey, Hosea, Kieran, Lenny and whoever else he wants; He could avoid Tuberculosis, deal with Micah in a more satisfying way, and Marry Sadie. 😎👍 The way RDR2 played out at the end could turn out to be what Arthur saw when using the Strange Carvings Mystery, and that was Francis Sinclair's payment to him for helping him find the carvings? That's what I would want. We all love a happy ending, because we rarely get them in life.
Wow, I love that idea! I worry it might seem too sci-fi for most RDR fans, but I'd personally be 100% on board with that. I like what you said about happy endings too. I agree. Real life can be plenty depressing enough on its own. I feel like stories are meant to inspire people and give them hope. Anyway, thanks for the comment! I do enjoy doing these, but I haven't felt like I've had time lately to devote to putting together some proper videos. I have a bunch of saved footage from things I've discovered (for instance, how to do the elemental trail treasure map in ch 2), but I just can't seem to get around to making them into some decent videos. Thank you for the encouragement though. It definitely helps. :)
I actually snuck in by finding a boat in Lemoyne and just paddling into the dock areas and I got in via the beach and nobody bothered me. You can’t do anything there though.
As of October 28, 2021, this does not work anymore. Lawmen don’t despawn after losing them while staying within the borders of Blackwater. Looks like Rockstar didn’t listen and patched it. :\
Thanks for the info, I'll check it when I get a chance and update the title if need be. Keep in mind though, it's not a very solid method and the attempt in this video went better than average. I'd say I can only get it to work maybe 50% of the time. I'm still not sure exactly what causes it to work or not, but I have a suspicion that it only works if you get close enough to the border (sometimes even if you cross it). In other words, I've found I have the least success when I stay well within the border. Also, last I tried (maybe 3 months ago), I had more success going counter clockwise instead of clockwise and actually going around that church/graveyard. I would try to gather all the cops in that big area on that north side of town, then just lose them all at once. It's weird, once you turn the corner of that fence around the cemetery, they all start "searching" when they are clearly still within view of you. So, honestly, it's got me a bit stumped. I've been wanting to get it more perfected and re-release a more reliable method, but I just can't seem to work it out. Feel free to play around with it, and if you figure something out, please let me know. Thanks!
the single player game was good. red dead online only teased me of more better missions and what I got was grief when random players just keep killing you. lots of cheaters too, 4 players possies would spawn right next to me and would keep killing me over and over untill I had to exit. I like playing call of duty moder warfare much more... no grief...just fun times
Still ticks me off that Rockstar patched the Angelo Bronte method... I managed to get the Legend of the East outfit before it got patched, but a few months ago my PS4 harddrive became corrupted and I lost all of my saved data, now I'm replaying the game and trying to complete all of the challenges and Herbalist 9 is really throwin' me for a loop. I know the Saint Denis carriage trick works, but uugghh it used to be so much cooler to just free roam without worrying about the sniper. And yet bugs and glitches that actually negatively affect the game still haven't been patched to this day. Thanks R*...
I think you still can do the Angelo Bronte method, but only while on the mission, before going back to the Bronte mansion with John after escaping from the cementery, you can't do it while on free roam after replaying the mission anymore.
I have never played to that point. Watching my hero suffer and die miserably over hours or even days of playtime is not my idea of a good gaming experience. I still have the save game from when that doctor told me I've got to die, never played further. I've got another save game and will stay forever in chapter 4, right before those Bronte missions. I really can't stand the obsession with suffer porn people have nowadays.
Do you know how to get free horses from the stable in the beginning of the game or when ever you want ? If not this is how get a wagon gor to stable move half way in shoot you gun to get wanted level and the stable doors will try closeing get off the wagon pick a horse feed it then leave the stable and call the horse and it will come out and you have yourself a horse.
Yeah, I do know about that trick, Actually, I used it to get the Rose Gray Arabian in my first playthrough. I was hoping to use it to get one early in Blackwater, but alas, the stables just don't have them and aren't even open. That is a solid glitch though. Hopefully they don't patch it.
Hey thanks. Yeah, it bothers me when RU-vidrs basically beg people to support their stuff. I think that decision should be entirely up to the viewer. But also, I just don't know how much content I plan on making. I don't want to get into the habit of just making videos for the sake of it. If I feel like I have something useful to add that hasn't been covered by someone else, I'll try to make one. I have a couple other ideas in the pipe for other stuff, but I have other stuff going on in life, so I'm just not that sure of when that'll be. Anyway, that aside, glad you liked it! 😊
“I don’t care if you subscribe or like”. You sir, have gained a follower. Just for that, hate when mfs always say “make sure to gut that like and subscribe button” a thousand times.
let me get this straight, do i have to make an authority follow me to black water and have to outrun the pinkertons without leaving black water? (I'm sorry for the question, I'm a gringo and I don't know much about English)
Not the pinkertons, but the blackwater police, yes. It can be tricky, and the run I did in this video went better than they normally do, but that's the general idea. I've actually had it work before when I crossed the border then went back in, but I'm not sure of there's a limit and how far that is.
What’s funny is one of the story missions (where u gotta save Sean) start just near Blackwater. While replaying RDR2 I entered did not even enter the town but immediately got cops on my tail trying to kill me.
Yeah, kind of. The lawmen will respawn, but I've been able to make it work again without going all the way back out of Great Plains. Honestly, I have a feeling that you can do this in the first place without having a lawman follow you from outside Great Plains, but I haven't been able to make it work yet, so idk. I have been able to make it work again that way after getting killed by the Blackwater PD, but never from a completely dry run. There's something there that hopefully someone smarter than me can work out better, because I still can't completely understand it.
Not 100% sure, but I think no. I feel like I tested that, and the cops were all still there upon reloading the save. However, you can sleep in the empty tents in the workers camp, so maybe saving from there would be different. Probably not, but worth a shot.
@@shermutt you can also save in new austin because when i went to guarma I kept going into sniper zone in new austin by accident and saved my game and after reaching guarma I loaded the old one and I was in new austin but after you move a few seconds and the sniper will kill you
There is another glitch you can use to roam blackwater with arthur without tons of pinkertons on your tail. Just tried it on 9 april 2022 and it works. In shady belle chapter, there will be a mission when you have to save tilly from the foreman gang in Radley House near rhodes (mission : "no, no and thrice no"). The mission will be marked with MB (mary beth will first converse with arthur & ms. Grimshaw will suddenly intervene to inform about tilly). When arthur & ms. Grimshaw mount the coach, instead of going for the foreman's house, go to blackwater (its a long ride, i know. Just follow the railtracks). No pinkertons will appear relentlessly once you enter the great plains. But tons of pinkertons & lawmen will always be there in blackwater. I let myself get spotted by a lawman in blackwater & ran to great plain to test if this will trigger pinkertons to pop-up as usual, & apparently they were not appearing. So i managed to shake off my pursuer and everything went well. I managed to catch legendary rock bass fish at aurora basin, inspect circus wreckage near manzanita post and wickiup Unfortunately, there are few downsides : 1. There are no pickable plants in blackwater, great plains etc. Apparently the glitch caused all pickable plants to vanish. But animals still appear and killable as usual. 2. The invisible sniper will still be active & triggered once arthur entering new austin Note : I assume the glitches to enter blackwater safely can be exploited on any missions where arthur is required to ride with other characters (drunk reverend, serial killer, or other gang members) to a certain places from another. This will keep arthur registered as "within a mission" thus stopping pinkertons from super-spawning, when entering blackwater/great plain area.
I know a good way to get the rose gray Arabian horse in chapter 4. Use the Angelo Bronte a man of honor mission, have autosaving enabled, use the cheats you want and spawn in a rose gray Arabian via cheats. Finish the mission, it'll ask you if you wanna autosave, hit yes, load the save file, save again then close the game so you can get achievements/trophies
I can confirm it's not patched. Just very difficult to pull off! It took me about 15 tries but I finally manage to do it. If what you do isn't working I suggest getting them in a tight group lure them to church like shown in the video but cross the border and get right back in it. See if that works for you.
Honestly there should be a free roam mode where you can explore the whole map without wanted levels. Maybe even allow you to use different characters or create your own.
Genius. I tried to explore blackwater today and the only way I could do it was by turning on the unlimited dead eye cheat. Explored the town in dead eye while shooting down 100s of policemen along the way.
Great videos! This is the sort of thing I love to do in games just muck around in places you’re not supposed to. Gonna try your legendary fish method soon. (Also please try and figure out a way to get the old miller revolver with the buggie 😅)
Thanks! Honestly, it's been really cool to discover that there are actually other people that enjoy this kind of stuff like I do. 😊 Good luck with the fish! They definitely aren't easy, but I think the methods I came up with are repeatable with enough patience. I've had a couple people reply that they've been able to do it as well, which really makes me feel good. As far as the revolver, I had someone get in touch with me recently about a method they used to open the chest and give yourself a bit more time to loot it (which is all you really need). We did some brainstorming and had a few ideas on how to make it consistent, but I haven't had a chance to try it myself yet. I'm still stuck on trying to chase the tiger striped mustang back out of NA and capture it. I honestly must have attempted it close to 100 times now. It's turned out to be quite the test of patience, haha.
@@shermutt Thanks! I just got done with the dino bones thinking I would be done with New Austin for now but your video was so well done and great explanations, and it looks fun in a weird way haha so Im gonna give it a go and ill see you in about 200 years :P Good luck with the horse that one seems particularly tricky! Oh man would be keen as to see the attempts you made even if you don't manage to pick it up but hey either way keep up the good work, I have a few ideas myself but I am not sure if any of them will work just wild guesses. I accidentally came across the revolver while looking for the dino bone in that area and its like the game was teasing me haha. I wasn't subbed for some stupid reason but I am now and look forward to whatever you put out next :)
@@thatssoraving I appreciate it, but I'll warn you, I'm not reliable about putting things out. I really just do the videos for fun when I happen to find something worth making one about...granted nobody else already has, that is. I'd love to hear your ideas for the revolver, but I've tried quite a few different things. I've tried destroying the chest, but you can't loot it. I've tried using the companion glitch and bringing a posse of people down there for sniper shields as they are invulnerable, but they wouldn't come in the cave, sadly. I've timed a hundred or so sniper shots and wrote down every time to try to decipher some sort of pattern, but I've really only discovered a very loose one, if any...and that's probably mostly wishful thinking. I've tried drinking till I passed out and rushing there during the warning shots, but you die before you really even get up. I've tried driving vehicles in there and or forcing my horse in, but no luck. I've tried moving the camera to about every angle possible to find cover, but there's almost nowhere that provides it. The only spot I've found is a small corner of rock at the cave opening that is a matter of inches wide. I've actually been able to use that to open the chest (it's REALLY hard and you lose the cover once the chest actually opens), but there isn't enough time to loot anything. Then, unfortunately, if you come back, the chest will still be open, but you can only loot the photos. It seems dying while it's open locks you out of looting the gun. I've tried a buttload of other ridiculous things...but it really is the ONLY thing in NA that I've not managed to accomplish. The person I talked with came up with a plan of dropping the carcass and then moving the camera while it falls to keep you shielded for a brief moment more while you open it, but once the carcass hits the floor, it doesn't provide shielding anymore. So, essentially, it's just enough to get it open, but not enough to loot it. Using that strat, my most recent idea is to somehow stack a couple or more carcasses on the left side of the chest and potentially the top one would still provide cover. It would be a pain in the ass to get them there and stacked though. And that's assuming it actually works. So yeah, that's a small glimpse into the obsession I've had with that damn gun for, well, years now. I go back and play every now and then, but I certainly don't get on as much as I used to. One of these days though...at least that's what I keep telling myself. 😅 It's really cool to see that people are still getting into this stuff and enjoy it too though. I promise I'll let you know if happen to make any new breakthroughs. 😊 And good luck with the other stuff!! 😬
@@shermutt Hey no worries I enjoy your guides. Honestly I haven't given it as much thought or experimentation as you have and it seems like you have it pretty covered haha. I don't think I will be offering anything new here but I heard that if you use the compass menu instead of dead eye it slows time way more so I was thinking either animal carc method using compass or driving up and blocking entrance with appleseed timberwagon and some how getting lucky with the camera and timing or some how a combo of both, when I next get an opportunity Im gonna experiment with some stuff. Wow! so that would entail going up there and dropping one carcass at a time, I would be worried about despawn though... maybe chucking like 20 animal carcass' in the back of an appleseed timberwagon and taking them up there would avoid that issue? 🤔 Gah Its sooooo annoying I wish I hadn't discovered this gun while looking for the bones haha, I might take a break and try get the horse or the fish but its taunting me and I feel like people are like 99 percent there. I'm gonna slowly chip away at it though but I am guessing ill be doing stuff you have tested like 3750927592 times but who knows. Yeah please do! no pressure though whatsoever and good luck out there :)
[11/3/22] This glitch no longer works as every horse you ride or mount inside Blackwater will be downed immediately, making it impossible (or at least very, very difficult) to outrun the law.
I'll try it again, but I'm fairly certain it's still working. If you try it with Pinkertons following you, then they (and the cops in Blackwater) will kill you and your horse much faster. But if you do it with an outside lawman initially, they all are much less deadly. I'll upload another video about it sometime, but I recently did the glitch on a brand new game with the starting horse you get from Adler Ranch and squat in the way of tonics. It's really mostly a matter of being efficient with rounding up the cops then losing them quickly.
I hate that rockstar had plans to arthur do to people finding voice lines of arthur talking to sick people in armadillo but then at the last minute remembered that they didn't have a lot of content for so they scrapped arthur being able to travel to new Austin. But in the universe it doesn't make that much sense since they didn't know that john was with them they could've just sent john to get in and out since when agent moron shows up at clemens point he asks who john even was. Which reveals they didn't know john or what he looked like.
I had £180 bounty in West Elizabeth and I got the tip to hold up the Stagecoach down by Blackwater I didn’t read the tip I went down next to black water to try and activate some bounty hunters to stop the Stagecoach mission from disappearing I slowly edged my way intoBlackwater state and I was running around the land I’ve got sniped Entering new Austin but I was running around free it was awesome
Hey bro! There are 4 places to get fast horses as early as start of chapter 2. 1) White arabian from Grizllies and 2) Black arabian from St denis (will need to spawn the robbery encounter). To spawn robbery encounter what I do is, as soon as chapter 2 begings and I get stable option after talking to Hosea. I leave from camp around at 7:00 pm and travel to st denis around 12. I choose the forest and avoid roads as I don't want any other encounters to spawn. As soon as I reach St denis at 12:00 PM I keep on roaming streets around theaters and the my arabian is ready for me to take it. The other 2 way is the photographer mission and there is 1 more mission where Strauss ask us to retrieve money from the german dude in Painted Sky. If we go into his stable which is outside his house, there we can find MFT. These are the 4 ways that I know of that we can do without glitching.
Ooooh! I knew about those first 3, but I didn't realize you could get an MFT from that Strauss mission. I'll have to try that on my next playthrough. Thanks! It's also worth mentioning that there are 2 other Arabians that can be found in the wild. The warped brindle just northwest of Wapiti, and the red chestnut on the west side of Owanjila Lake. Their stats are slightly worse than the others, but still solid horses and available basically right away as well. Plus, they both just look awesome, imo. :) All that said though, you really don't NEED need a fast horse to do this, it just helps. I recently did it with the starting horse that you get from Sadie's barn in ch 1, so it's definitely not a requirement. Thanks for the info though!
