Wow, the way they treated the detransitioner was utterly despicable. They gaslit her pretending her story doesn't happen while she was literally sat there. A complete lack of basic human empathy.
Yeah they’re horrifying to detransitioners. It’s insane that they have endless amounts of support from us “horrible bigoted Conservatives” and yet get nothing but hate and venom from their own community. Hope they realize they’ve got more support than they know.
Samantha Lux is a horrible human being. When she said that misgendering was worse than kids lives being taken in the Nashville shooting, I was done. She is not a respectable human and never take anything she says seriously.
I agree, and that's why I lost respect for her too. It wasn't just that, but the content I watched from her. It was never worth trusting her, and I was an idiot for not knowing it sooner.
So their defense is to blame the parents who are adults, while at the same time saying it’s the child’s choice. Then who’s choice is it then? Do you trust the child or the adult? Seriously.. smh…
The medical system failed them because of the pressure to affirm every identity. It's ideologies that are dangerous. I trusted my doctors. Until I didn't and now I'm finally on a road to getting treatment for a rare tumor that's hard to diagnose.
When you are in the left, you juggle with ideas, concepts and definitions, points of views, anything. It doesnt matter what it is, you can say and do anything no matter how contradicting it is as long as it feeds the narrative youre conducting or the point youre defending and NOBODY questions it. I think by now they have lost the ability to see conflicting ideas in their own speech
Trans: “Not letting the child choose what to do with their body is wrong, I always knew what I wanted, nobody knows ME more than ME! I just had to mutilate my healthy body to get it to look at the way I want, how dare you to not let a child do the same???? 😡😡😡” Detrans: “The doctor manipulated my parents and removed a healthy part of my body because of my gender dysphoria. It caused irreversible damage to my body, I have constant joint pain etc etc etc…” Trans: “I think you were misdiagnosed, it was your parent’s fault. You gotta get a second opinion, honey.”
it’s crazy how they say kids should make the decision to be able to transition but in the same breath say that detransitioner (Luka) was misdiagnosed and invalidated her whole experience
exactly! they contradict themselves so much. they are saying to trust kid's feelings but then its's the parents fault that went along with that. but then they may also say that if parents don't allow transitioning, it's abuse lol their arguments are so circular. there's no logic.
Or how if a doctor carries out surgery on an intersex infant to align them more with either male or female, *that* is mutilation. But carrying out surgery and giving life changing drugs that potentially makes them infertile, nope that's not mutilating, its life saving. 🤦♀🤦♀ We very nearly got a reasoned debate, and I do think the way forward is this kind of sit down and talk about it, lay it out on the table approach instead of screaming and shouting at one another, but the mental gymnastics of the contradictory logic makes my head spin.
Parents need to allow their children, regardless of age of maturity, to transition if they want to. But if eventually the kid detransitions it's the parents fault for letting them. Dammed if you do. Dammed if you don't.
It’s crazy how they went from “a child should be able to choose to transition and the opinions of adults don’t matter” to telling the detrans girl that “you were misdiagnosed and it’s your parents fault for not telling you no.” They want it both ways.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard the "Would you rather have a living son, or a dead daughter". or vice versa. It is so manipulative. As long as it is from the "medical professionals", they are okay with it. It blows my mind.
What should be done with a kid who shows persistent dysphoria thru childhood and adolescence? I agree there's schizophrenia and dissociative identity disorder
They repeat it because they work like a cult, and a cult is all about repeating mantras, and if it's threatening and manipulative then it's even better
3 sessions. 3 therapy sessions is all it takes now to destroy your body. Affirmation takes THREE therapy sessions. No nuance. No deep introspection. No detailed analysis. Three therapy sessions.
The part when they were like should have got a second opinion. They know darn well therapists cannot say that not what wrong or they will lose their license. That does not change the fact Luka got no real help as a teen.
@@nicoleackerman205 100%. If they don't know, then they are victims themselves but they do know because they can't stop lying about it. There was no way for Luka to get an honest 2nd opinion because it's criminalized. The only safe way to navigate the issue is for parents to hire a lawyer and prepare to flee the state because the clinic will even weaponize CPS to kidnap kids.
The human body and brain, both are completely developed by the adult age of 25. If you do surgical things BEFORE, you or your body or both DEFINITELY will regret it 😢 it's really dangerous. So I am really happy that you use your platform to help kids and teens not to do such a dangerous step. Bolshoye spasibo, krasotka Misha 🎉❤🎉❤
I had braces since I was 11. I had complicated issues and had to wait for certain treatments until I was old enough because my jaw was still growing. I had jaw surgery at 22.
this is misleading. because sometimes surgeries are necessary lmao. not gender related, but for example, kidney, bone, muscle etc. many women have breast reduction surgery before 25, i've had arm surgery due to injuries etc. you'll be just fine when you are close to being an adult. at 17 and 18, doing stuff like breast implants, and other gender based surgeries, is completely fine. sure it may come with complications, but so does any form of bigger surgery. no one is claiming transitioning is all sunshine and flowers. literally nobody.
@@Celatra Of course, non-cosmetic procedures can be necessary at any age. I’m 19, I needed surgery for a nasty kidney stone that would have made me go septic if left untreated. My brain is not yet fully developed, but that surgery was the solution to a matter of life or death. However, “gender based surgeries” at 17 or 18 are not matters of life or death, and having these things done at such a young age does not exactly pave the way for a satisfied and healthy future. The amount of women who regret things like breast implants is staggering, about 65% to be more precise. Imagine what those numbers are in teenagers who believe they can alter their genetic makeup and somehow live a better life, even if that life is based on the premise of a lie. How would inverting a boy’s genitalia or removing a young girl’s breasts not leave them with some serious second guessing in years to come? And yes actually, the most vocal and influential “lgbt” activists out there are in fact arguing that transitioning is sunshine and flowers. Why do you think these debates are happening in the first place? Because there truly is a small subset of individuals out there claiming reassignment is the best treatment, which is false by every metric of the word. I hate to break it to you.
@@kylielebid i cant speak for everyone but no trans person i know, myself or anyone ive known, thinks transitioning changes their genetic makeup. what it does though, is change their appearance to more feminin/ masculine. sure not everything, but enough to satisfy most individuals. idiots claiming its risk free are stupid. it is not. nothing is. however, many who have gender dysphoria suffer more when they dont transition even with theraphy and medication, than vs when they transition, DESPITE the complications transitioning does.
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When you said, everyone struggeled their body image growing up...facts of the day. If i were american, I would be one of the detransitioners. I neved wanted to be a boy, but I was a tomboy growing up. I hated my body for the longest time ever, i'm 27, i moved across the world, i lost weight and for the first time in like 15 years, i'm comfortable in my skin and in my femininity. It took me more then half of my lifetime to "glow up" and grow into the woman I was born to be. But instead of saying, I'm trans, I gave myself time, and here I am.
Growing up, I was a Tom boy, but the thought "I'm actually a boy" never crossed my mind. If a Dr gives SRS to anyone under 18 (really should be mid 20s) they need their license revoked and charges brought
No one can tell you how to feel, that's why your story is so real. 🤗 Respect to all the detransitioners, for having the courage to stand up and be heard!
"Kids have the agency to determine if they need to transition." "Well, your misdiagnosis is your parent's fault for letting you go that route." Oh, look at that! A perfect score from the judges! This year's gold medal for the Mental Gymnastics Olympics goes to... That absolute dingbat right there!
@@ricardokojin7 do you know how *smokescreens* work? like... having a "welfare state" to manipulate people into thinking taxes are funneled somewhere within the nation while also pulling copious amounts from under the table to give in forgien aid? this whole "taxes" thing is an obvious control mechanism, how exactly are you simultaneously in debt/charging high taxes/mass spending ALLLL at the same time?
@@shelbyspeaks3287 Obviously a lot of stuff goes to politicians pockets. But sadly a lot of the "high spending" (and debt) comes from the fact that the government is as good as spending our money as a monkey on crack....furthermore creating new government programs is easy, getting rid of them is incredibly hard. (which comes to light when things start going bad) And the more "social programs" / "free services" they create the easier it is for them to hide their corruption. regardless, unless you are just a leach in the system you will pay for all the bs and even when you don't pay directly...you pay the taxes imposed on business and products. either way taxes as they stand are a bad deal. Some minimum amount can be good for a society but that is a more tricky subject and it would 100% not include "special surgeries"
I doubt the whole "I knew I was trans when I was 8 or 10" narrative. They definitely made those claims up just so they can make their story more significant. People always misremember their memories and dramatise it when they can't remember it clearly. That or their parents encourage them.
So, instead of masculine girls who like sports and cars and feminine boys who like pink and dresses being ok, that is not an option. Rather than changing the social structure, we'll lop of perfectly healthy body parts instead. Where is the logic in that? It makes me so angry to see these people tell the one individual "you were misdiagnosed". So because their experience was different from yours, it was wrong? The arrogance!
You guys do the exaclty same thing, you just take in consideration the detrans and ignore all trans people that are happy for transitioning early, just to deny transition to all minors.
How are they so confident that Luka was misdiagnosed, but they're also really confident that the current medical system is not doing the same? How many patients go in saying they're trans or have dysphoria and/or dysmorphia and are told, actually you're not. Not every single person with this claim can statistically be affirmed correctly, surely not? Or is it that those people are silent on the matter?
I really hope these people get the support they need. Thanks for bringing this to light. These videos need as much exposure on as many channels as possible. As mainstream media will happily kick it under the rug.
As a 45 year old man who is a disabled, and single this scares me. I feel so awful when I see this. Is there anything I can do in my area to help out? I feel so helpless and alone.
The best thing you can do is not feel hopeless about it. If you are compassionate and empathetic while telling the truth (not sugar coated) out of love, that’s enough. Simply talking to people who struggle with this with a warm heart is enough even if at first they are stone hearted. And I don’t know if you have faith in God, but prayer nonetheless is a powerful thing as well. You do not need to fret or worry by putting this hopelessness and burden on your shoulders. There’s only so much you can do and that’s okay. Hope this helps- take care!
Hello from England, I, too am disabled, and house bound. I, too find this deeply concerning. Have you thought about looking for a site that has detransitioners on it, and offering to be there to be a listening ear? In the sense that they can talk to you in the comments, and that you tell them you will keep your notification bell on, and get back to them, when you can, with a reply? Just having one person to go to literally saves people from suicide. Letting them know you care, and are willing to interact with them. As, in this video it was made clear that detransitioners are left isolated, you could be the one person who takes the time to read their story, and respond with kindness and compassion. With your maturity, and caring heart, you definately are needed. So many feel lonely, and you could be the one to help, just by corresponding with them. Love saves lives, go, be a hero. Bless you.
@@jacquelineteale4937 the only interactions I've had with trans kids really I've had seem to strangely seem to be 50% positive in person and pretty much a hundred percent bad online. I can tell you that when they're nice they're nice. But when they're acting out online, they harass you.
@@dan0507 Hello Daniel, by the way, my eldest son is called Daniel. So, you have found a way to interact in person? That's a pretty unique thing in itself. Well if there be a way you could let them know that if they need someone to listen to, you should do it. So many young people are without an adult figure who will just listen. I totally understand that the online world can, and is, at times, incredibly toxic. I would suggest praying for them, God truly hears, ask him for guidance, and he will give it to you. If you don't have a Bible, I recommend the King James. Google Revelations 3 verse 20. God bless you, kind Sir.
This can't have just been my experience. But growing up every two or three years I'd look back at younger me and feel so much cringe and embarrassment. Most teens go through that experience. Teens need to be made aware as EARLY as possible. That, the feeling of looking back at a younger version of yourself and being a little embarrassed or having drastically different opinions and outlooks is 1000000% normal and happens well into adulthood. They need to understand and realise for themselves that their opinions, feels, needs and wants continually change esp during such a hormonal period.
I think its true of most humans on the planet. I know I do it. I look back and I know that the person I was at 8, or 15 or 21 and even at 30 was of a different mindset at each of those ages. Life, knowledge and experience changes you organically. You're still the same person physically but mentally there's a lot of change, particularly in your outlook on the world I would say. Those first 20 or so years are probably the most tumultuous and your concept of the wider world and what lies ahead is changeable, somewhat narrow for many and much different to when you are older. Its hard enough deciding what exams or career you want to do in your late teens let alone a life altering decision that can't be undone. In time honoured tradition, teens don't listen to the wisdom of their elders because 'old people' are out of touch. 😁
Variations in genes happen all across everyone's genome, but only some lead to a developmental disorder. Whether it's on the sex chromosomes or any other chromosome is immaterial. A variant on an autosome doesn't make the individual not human. Those surgeries right after birth only ever happened in the developing world. The excuse given was a followup visit with a doctor was not certain. Variations of sex development (VSD) have nothing to do with being trans. Samantha Lux's fake concern for Luka really pissed me off. Samantha is a toxic beast. Anyone lying about 'studies' supporting the safety of puberty blockers & child transition is a lying monster. There are no 'second opinions' when every therapist is gender affirming. I hope everyone sees these people for what they are.
YES. That’s where we need to step up - when they bring children into this!!!! That’s across the line, should be for everyone. Someone commented elsewhere that the ”strangers” we were warned about when we were kids are celebrating now. That’s true 😢
This is why being an individual loner in school is a benefit, if everyone in my school tried this shit I would have still said no just on the basis of being me.
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Dude same. I am a gen Zer. I never got red pilled. I was born based. Super cringy thing to say but it’s just true. I have my whole life been a very blunt no nonsense person so you can only imagine how hard it is for me being surrounded by my peers who are all brainwashed and deranged. I remember being 12 and first introduced to gender ideology and I thought it was all nuts! I couldn’t believe how everyone else around me didn’t instantly pick up on this, and how they were all going along with the indoctrination. And then the apathy towards it all that I see from the remaining ones who didn’t get indoctrinated. Even tho they realize it’s all lies they go along with it out of fear. TurkeyTom is a great example of this. He’s 20 and was basically saying “yeah I know the TRAs are all crazy. But it’s not like they’re ever going away. This is just reality now. No use is fighting it.” And the f**ked up thing was, most gen Zers agree with that sentiment. They’ve all become so jaded and nihilistic they don’t even have it in them to stand up for the truth and what is right! Even tho it’s scary sometimes I STILL argue with professors and honestly I’ve alienated myself from A LOT of my peers standing up for my beliefs. I’m 24, but every single friend I have is 35+. I don’t have a single friend my own age.
@@I-hate-youtube797 Just remember to keep those people in your life. I just lost my ex fiance back in august because of my individuality. She thought because she comes from money and I grew up lower middle class that I would fall in line when she snapped her fingers. Went through alot for that woman but it was unhealthy for me and eventually I am where I am. Find the people who appreciate you for you, not who they want you to be.
@@ActualDrunkAtheist I completely agree, and sorry to hear about your ex fiancé. But she sounds toxic and it’s better she’s an ex fiancé instead of ex wife. Like you said, never let people change you. Stay true to yourself and you’ll find people who actually like you for you.
@@I-hate-youtube797 Hey, I know you posted this half a year ago but I just wanted to say that I have always felt the same way. You're not alone, and reading your comment made me realise that I'm not alone either.
6:00 if a "doctor" told me "do you want a dead daughter or a living son?" I would tell them a "I would rather see a dead liar, manipulator, pedo... or at least disbarred."
I'm a happily transitioned transman. Finally my mental illness is alleviated. Should children go through the difficult, painful, debilitating process of transitioning and make stressfully difficult life-decisions before they're even adults? Fuck no.
It should be against the law in every country in the world, children need our protection, they should never be encouraged to change sex, this is the worst form of child abuse imaginable, criminal charges should be brought on doctors and teaching staff
So it’s okay for a doctor to choose if an intersex person (which is rare) should have surgery as a baby but not let the child grow up and decide who they want to be? That’s hypocrisy..
What always irks me is when they say "I felt like I was *insert a sex here*" because I always think to myself they aren't one and never been one so how would they know?
I remember in primary school believing that being Robin Hood was a valid career option. Hell, I still believed in Lost Cause theory well into adulthood.
My ex best friend’s ex bf is trans. He’s only bc he got depressed and wanted a change. He wanted to dress up like a girl and went all the way. He was having majorrrrrr mental illness symptoms. Instead of real therapy, he just got “gender affirming care.”
so glad I grew up when I did. Hi I love your videos! im a lesbian who grew up a total tomboy down im comfortoble with my femininity and embrace it! my parents didn't give another thought to me liking boyish things but nowadays people would tell me im trans. thanks for always speaking on important stuff always agree with everything u say
Huge respect for detransitioners speaking out despite the backlash, seeing this side of the story is so important. It's okay to admit you were wrong, and I think its brave to speak up and try and stop others from making the same mistakes.
Minors cannot make life altering decisions, and we are letting them down by doing so when we don’t even know the long term effects! Some might know their feelings inside and they should be allowed to explore that and have therapy and socially transition. The medical side should be left to adulthood!
I'm tired of hearing the term "Assigned at Birth". I wasn't assigned a gender at birth, my sex was "identified". They didn't flip a coin; heads it's a boy, tails it's a girl.
No , they should not , they cant drive before 16 , or work, or have tattoos , etc not even legally able to work before 16 unless parental agreements , kids need to learn more about life and puberty and life , if you dont even know your own your own body and orgasm you should not have no say into any surgical transformation before your body actually changed ,if any child of mine wants to sue me for misgendering them or not affirming them or consulting a doctor …i will generously put my child for adoption and wish them good luck with the cost of their health care
I serious recommend you do more collaborations with other independent commentators who are at your level, not just with better known ones. Both of you can debate, branch out into subject outside of the Woke Cult and grow in viewership. Does anyone else agree?
Can’t drive until 16. No vote until 18. No alcohol until 21. Why should we let little kids decide something that’s going to affect them for the rest of their lives? They should make their choice after 18.
The Odin's Men Channel delves into a lot of the tik tok trans videos. It's horrifying while it's happening, then heartbreaking seeing the ones who regret it.
“I’ve lost people that I thought liked me for me and it didn’t matter what I was. But then, all of a sudden, de-transitioning was the thing. I’ve been called a traitor.” It’s the same deal as the fat acceptance movement! These movements would rather disregard factual statements and objective physical realities, and their consequences on the body and mind, to make people feel good about themselves while making choices that could very well destroy them. If anyone dares to speak against these self-harmful narratives or take positive steps toward actual self-improvement (whether it be finding oneself internally or working toward a healthier body), they’re the enemy and should be shunned. These people aren’t concerned with mental and physical self-betterment. They’re concerned with self-validation and feeling good about themselves by having people share their poisonous mentality.
Even the comments on the Jubilee video are overwhelmingly supporting the detransitioners and calling out the transitioners for dismissing the detranser’s experiences
There never should be any access for children to transition, parents or any adult in a child's life should never have children transition. It's nothing more but child abuse. Any adult who do this to the kid should be held accountable for it too. This is not even a thing to talk about, because the common sense is simply no, a kid should not transition, no ands, ifs or buts.
Many blessing’s to you , and the message is reaching those who need to hear it ! I used to have a “left” mind set. The Left says “Do what ever you want , it’s not hurting anyone “ , but how can they not see that it is. The children are not only being mentally neglected by Doctors and parents, but now being mutilated. And this is not a joke Dads , be dads stop being selfish and love you’r kids the way God commanded. Thank you for reading my comment ❤and please continue to be a voice to these kids ! -Yeshua’s Family
The way they treated one of the detransitioners, Luka, dismissing the issues she brought up about being affirmed/pushed to transition was just heartbreaking. She brought up real and relevant issues about the possible consequences of early transitioning.
Yeah, they were like parents have to accept children's gender and agree with them, Luka said that parents agreed with the doctor and they were like oops, it is your parents fault sorry. But like you said that parents have to accept children's gender, so what is the point? They just proved their delusion
The inconvenient truths about this subject are generally glossed over, treated as extreme outliers, or are labeled as right wing conspiracy and fear mongering because to acknowledge otherwise is to admit that they’re basically willing to see some cis children mutilated irreversibly so that potential trans kids can be happier. That’s the cold truth of it.
I felt so sad for her. They were literally discussing "should children transition, because they're too young to make life-altering decisions" and when she gave them a real example, they shot it down like it doesn't matter. Why even discuss the topic if they're going to ignore the very real evidence in front of them?
I watched that video last night. All 8 of them agreed that kids are socially influenced to being trans bc it is trendy. TikTok is loaded with people claiming to be trans, non-binary, etc. Luka was a de-transitioner and when she told her story, most of the others kinda dismissed her by blaming her parents, doctors for mis-diagnosing her. She flat out said she has gender dysphoria.
IMHO in case of small kids but also teenagers - after most of them were deprived of books, culture, sport, religion, and any kind of _proper_ interests and were for years indoctrinated with psy-ops pouring on their heads from so called "social medias" which is as "social" as I m material for dancer :D the only thing they were left with was their own sexuality and egoism and narcisism. When you dont have anything of value to be protected about or to be interested about or to be creative about, eventualy you create your own fictional world based on the topics they left you with - sadly it was only their sexuality.
@@gigahorse1475 That IS my point. I'm trying to says that hundreds of thousands of kids are misdiagnosing themselves due to social conformity. Luka's point in the Jubilee video is that the doctors rushed her through transitioning, including surgery, which she now regrets having. There just isn't enough scientific evidence proving that transitioning is the answer/cure for transgenderism.
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I'm a detransitioner, and for a while I HATED my parents because they wouldn't let me transition at 16 or 17, I'm 25 now and glad they didn't let me I was on hrt for a few Years then stopped and turned my life around a but no, MINORS SHOULD NOT TRANSITION it is child abuse
@@knellycornnan5132 lmao college is not much of a better option that brainwashes most people too, and I was kicked out at 17 for being Trans and had to drop out of HS
@@amandavieira2543 that doesn’t mean that they should be able to transition at that age. As others have stated, it’s child abuse. In my opinion they are all confused.
Shapeshifter and Luka did such a great job even with so much hostility coming at them (im referring to Samantha lux). Luka never raised her voice and kept a calm demonor even after all that has happened to her. She deserves some kind of award
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Samantha Lux is one of the most insufferable men I have ever seen. He has that bitchy gay man attitude about him that makes him stand out like a man from miles away.
@@tinawalton2208 because they are in a cult. for all we know, maybe they would have aligned with their birth sex had they been given proper therapy instead of the current "affirmative care" model.
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I understand how these trans people might feel. They grew up all their lives being told they're not trans, but then they finally transitioned and it turned out for the best for them. However, it is disgusting the sheer lack of empathy and dismissiveness they show towards detransitioners when they share their trauma
Don't believe their lies, it didn't turn out well for anyone. Go to their channels, they all have at least one video about "complications" in having had their healthy genitals mutilated, which is what you'd expect. They are just in complete denial and gaslighting themselves at this point. They lie because they went from freaks no one would interact with to internet celebrities. They are not gonna give that up by admitting they have no sexual function anymore.
Lol thing is did it really turn out best for them? They have to rage out constantly at everyone just to feel “validated”. If someone treats them like they’re trans and not just the gender the identify as they lose their minds. They seem completely unhappy to me. So I question if they’re really “better off” now like they claim they are. Not only this, but they have to deal with being on medications and getting injections their whole lives. People who take cross sex hormones reduce their lifespan 10-15% on average. I don’t think they’re better off.
That’s exactly how it is for me. Mom refused to believe me, dad doesn’t believe in that shit. Transitioning has worked out well for me so far (have a long way to go, especially in therapy lol) but I do not think the way they do. My literal partner was influenced to think she was trans. I have seen friends identify as trans men just to never do anything, not even cut their hair short. This radical trans agenda keeps being pushed onto innocent cisgender females who suffer with trauma and mental issues. We need to show respect and care for the people who were screwed over by the us healthcare system, and if we have so many detransitioners, then clearly what we’re doing in the united states is wrong.
There's no evidence that it was best for them. If anything a lot of them suffer lifelong physical complications as a result that are too embarrassed to admit it. We have no idea what giving a male estrogen for 50 years does to his body. We do know however that it damages his body and puts them at higher risk of autoimmune conditions ,cancers all kinds of things...all of theae surgeries are mutilation. Gender dysphoria needs a different cure. So many more have been severely harmed and had their lives ruined.
Commenting on the whole “they weren’t trans, just gay instead”: I know you probably don’t mean _every_ detransitioner, but I do want to spread light on the fact that sometimes it’s just nothing but influence from people around them or trends or mental health issues. For example, while I thankfully didn’t go through surgery or hormones, I struggled with this identity of “oh, maybe I’m actually a trans-woman,” or “oh maybe I’m bisexual or gay or whatever.” When really it was none of that. I am a straight man who had an unstable identity due to my mental health condition, and at the time I wasn’t being treated for it. All of that being said, I find it most common for it not to “turns out they’re actually gay” but rather they are among the majority in being born as they are and being hetero yet having unresolved issues with identity that were not taken care of or groomed or both. There’s a reason why there’s a _huge_ and unrealistic increase of teen LGBTQ+ members. Hope that makes sense.
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Yes. Absolutely no one is talking about this. Mental health is so nuanced and multifaceted. It should be required for anyone to go through intensive therapy for as long as it takes to figure out the situation in someone’s brain BEFORE they start cutting off body parts. It’s 3 by the way. 3 therapy sessions is all that is required for a minor child to start hacking their body to pieces. I’m glad you got some peace of mind and comprehensive mental healthcare.
You know, there's a one thing different about thinking that you're gay/bi and thinking that you're trans. If you think you're bi but you are actually not, well nothing really changes - the only thing you might do is going to the date, not liking it and that's it. Nothing dangerous about it. Meanwhile if you think you're trans, that might lead you to start taking hormones which is dangerous for health.
@@recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 bro people take hormones for hypothyroidism and it's essential. also food contains hormones too. taking hormones is risky but so is taking any other form of medicine aswell.
On that note, she was saying a broad and general statement that is mostly true, Jordan Peterson touched it best. There are exceptions to the rule and they’re and these days the exception is kinda becoming the rule because of social media spreading this stuff, but before the social media the whole “if they’re trans as kids they’re most likely be gay as an adult” was and is a mostly true statement. My opinion on the matter is that Gender Dysforia (don’t know how to spell it) the way I see it is that the person has body dysmorphia and other mental disorders and on top of that their personalities don’t align properly to their gender/ the stereotype of their gender thus confusing them. However I could be wrong but the way people explain it sounds like that they’re uncomfortable in their own skin they hate their own bodies and want it to change desperately and that their personalities don’t align with the gender norm on top of that drives the transition. And sometimes it works and the people who transition are happy but they should not do that change as children period end of story.
I wanted a tattoo at 14. Badly. And I thought that you should be able to get a tattoo with a parent signature for under 18's. I turned 18 and realize how horrible of an idea it was! I can't imagine going through something so life altering at a young age like that, especially something as big as a gender transition. I can get if you're an adult, you've gone to therapy for several years (which was the standard way back when, and it was a very small amount of people doing it.), and even try to see how you feel as the other gender via dressing like said gender, then going through with treatment. But kids? No way.
The thing is, in worst case scenario, a tattoo is ugly. For SRS, best case you are left without sexual function, worst case you die or need a colostomy bag.
3 sessions. 3 therapy sessions is all it takes now to destroy your body. Affirmation takes THREE therapy sessions. No nuance. No deep introspection. No detailed analysis. Three therapy sessions.
My son is 15 and he really wants a tattoo. My mom took me to get me a tattoo when I was 16 and I don't really like it so I told him that he's too young to decide and will probably not like it when he's older.
I remember when I was in high school everyone is so susceptible and just wants to fit in never thinking about the consequences, teens shouldn’t have that power without A, some kind of therapy or counseling and B without parental consent if they need consent to get a piercing or tattoo then they need consent to get a life changing surgery.
Counseling isn't even safe anymore. The person who works with you could be saying the wrong thing now or just being a yes-man. It's sad that standards have dropped so low
3 sessions. 3 therapy sessions is all it takes now to destroy your body. Affirmation takes THREE therapy sessions. No nuance. No deep introspection. No detailed analysis. Three therapy sessions.
parent are too irresponsable for this, it should simply be illegal to perform those thing on minor, and if you do it anyway, the child protection service should take your child
@@laurahughes8902 That's straight-up child abuse and medical malpractice. I was in therapy for about 1.5 years for personal problems. My case didn't have anything to do with body or gender dysphoria and it still took time and effort to resolve (with a good therapist). These so-called "therapists" are just shipping children off to the surgeons room for ideology instead of individual care.
As a transgender adult legitimately and thoroughly diagnosed with gender dysphoria, I fully agree that medical transition in any form, from hormones to surgeries, needs to be an absolute last resort. We are talking about seriously screwing with body chemistry as well as several forms of irreversible alterations. It's absolutely not to be taken lightly, and needs to be properly established, with the help of a competent professional through long enough therapy to exclude possible overlapping personality disorders, as well as looking into any traumatic background that may drive them to hate their biological sex, but without having the strong opposite-sex body identity that those of us actually suffering from gender dysphoria (and pretty badly so if I may say so myself) have. I'm personally against the growing movement of 'informed consent' -- serious measures require serious evaluation.
Personally I'm impressed that trans women are happy with transitioning. For me, being a woman who can't get pregnant would be depressing. It is just weird that trans women are happy with having a body which would make a woman unhappy.
@@linusgustafsson2629 I started transitioning at 35 because while my body never fully masculinised (as in, secondary sexual characteristics didn't fully develop) my dysphoria became worse and worse the older I got and I was terrified of aging in a masculine manner. Turns out I'm not very responsive neither to małe nor female sex hormones, and I probably fall within the 1.8% which by some is considered to be intersex if the wide definition is used, but not the 0.1% if the narrow definition is used. It doesn't really matter. I like my body more now than I did before, even if the only thing that happened was that any chance of małe aging is stopped.
Desmond is Amazing probably, and yes thats actually his name. He got money from grown men, in an actual stripclip on vid too. Loads of vids about few years ago. He even was on talkshows etc.
I grew up in a homophobic household and my parents didn't like that I was feminine. I thought for a while to be with a man, I had to become a woman for me to feel normal. But as I got older I realized I'm just a man who likes other men and that's okay.
Or you could have just been an effeminate male...that was a thing when I was growing up, and there was nothing wrong with it. I'm glad you found your peace!
This is actually really sad, is there anywhere we can support Luka in order to spread the message? I want to let it be known that they have our full support
"I identify as a non binary!" Woke mob: "flawlessly logical, welcome to the crew, we accept all gender identities!" "I'm detransitioning." Woke mob: "You're a disgrace. We don't want you."
Yes but it stats with the social contagion tiktok, and children and people that approach puberty feel uncomfortable with their bodies and get tricked by tiktok into believing they are actually the opposite gender, they get brainwashed this is the only solution, to get hormones and surgery. And then the doctors do this, and believe me in the future it will be seen as bodily lobotomy. People in the future will look at us like insane uneducated medical illiterates and commonly brainwashed (the whole society)
Samantha Lux has a youtube channel. Sadly to say that any argument against her ideology, she will respond as "Not true" and if it was true, she then responds as "well I have never heard of it" and then moves on. It's like well now you heard about it, what do you think? And she is already to another topic for her agenda.
