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Reacting To Bleacher Report's Jaden Ivey & Isaiah Stewart Trade Rumors 

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Today on Pistons Talk Podcast, I reacted to Bleacher Report recent trade rumors about Jaden Ivey and Isaiah Stewart NBA Trade Rumors.
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@MrTonyJ
@MrTonyJ 16 дней назад
I think it’s at least 20 games into the season before Detroit moves on from any young player. Ivey and Stew included. We need to see how they are doing.
@PistonsTalk
@PistonsTalk 16 дней назад
Facts Tony, they probably want to evaluate everyone first.
@Wake-up1776
@Wake-up1776 16 дней назад
I don't understand why people sleep on Stew
@PistonsTalk
@PistonsTalk 16 дней назад
I don't know man, I feel like he's valuable off the bench.
@Wake-up1776
@Wake-up1776 16 дней назад
@@PistonsTalk same, he's a piece all 30 teams need, he's just not a star
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 16 дней назад
​@@PistonsTalk He should start, he's the second-best player on the team!
@TECNITTY
@TECNITTY 16 дней назад
Because he’s undersized and doesn’t jump very high
@anthonyvinson3989
@anthonyvinson3989 15 дней назад
Because he’s trash
@ronaldmcdonald1977
@ronaldmcdonald1977 13 дней назад
Monty saw Ivey isnt the answer. He had no choice but to play the other crappy player who could actually pass the ball, not turn it over, and play soem defense.
@elliottnovak7144
@elliottnovak7144 15 дней назад
I was reflecting a little. I know Monty liked Killian, but what was Ivey doing or not doing in practice that made him start Killian? Maybe it was favoritism, but maybe it wasn't to an extent?
@PistonsTalk
@PistonsTalk 15 дней назад
From the beat reporters I talked to thoughout the season it was mainly defense and bad decision making.
@davidmcpherson1347
@davidmcpherson1347 13 дней назад
Maybe he was NUTS. (and, he WAS.) Killian wasn't a bust; just Was NOT the PG they needed; He Did play good on the ball defense, but he couldn't Shoot -
@user-gx7hu2fn7c
@user-gx7hu2fn7c 13 дней назад
The fact Hayes was even on the roster points to Weaver. Maybe the decision was influenced if not previously agreed upon?
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 13 дней назад
Hard to guess at motivation. I can't help but wonder if Cade was part of the reason. Ivey is best playing on ball and Cade might prefer to be on ball if not the heliocentric offense Monty was running. Hayes is the better passer and defender. If he had a good start shooting wise that would make him a much better option than Ivey trying to be a 3&D player. Before the reason started I wanted to start Morris, but he was injured. I think starting Morris was the plan. After the injury the Pistons didn't have a good option.
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 13 дней назад
@@PistonsTalk Yes, Ivey is a bad player who makes you lose, and Killian being even worse doesn't change that.
@DetroitFlip5680
@DetroitFlip5680 16 дней назад
I would trade I ey for Mautherin or however you say his name ALL DAY LONG!!
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 16 дней назад
Me too, but Jarace would be an even better get!
@MehdiZenati-n4i
@MehdiZenati-n4i 16 дней назад
C'est Mathurin et pas Matherin.
@DetroitFlip5680
@DetroitFlip5680 16 дней назад
Jaden Ivey would have the same Issue in Indiana as he does in Detroit. Indiana has a starting PG so Ivey would be forced to play off ball where Ivey is very weak
@Antonio-h7c
@Antonio-h7c 15 дней назад
Indiana got better pg get him the ball in better spots and spacing to open drive lane when he attack close outs
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 13 дней назад
I'm guessing he would be a backup for a contender. Some of the Pistons rotation wouldn't even play for the Pacers
@DetroitFlip5680
@DetroitFlip5680 13 дней назад
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 People love saying how this player wouldn't be in that teams rotation. That's some bullshit
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 13 дней назад
@@DetroitFlip5680 But in this case they're right: Ivey would not start for the Pacers just like he should not start for the Pistons.
@mjoka911
@mjoka911 16 дней назад
I hope nothing is done before the trade deadline. I feel like giving up on any our youngsters before then would be foolish.
@Antonio-h7c
@Antonio-h7c 14 дней назад
Agree
@chrischarles4110
@chrischarles4110 16 дней назад
Please God free my boy!! He was so happy to come there too, it’s not been a good situation. He’s made the best of what he could though.
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 16 дней назад
It's never gonna be a good situation for anybody as long as Gorezzzz owns the team.
@chrischarles4110
@chrischarles4110 16 дней назад
I’ve passionately hated the Pistons since I was like 6!! I mfn hated the Bad Boys, and how they jumped all over Mike. Used to make me cry 😭 One of my college coaches ended up on the Pistons staff in 2012ish. We started attending a lot more games, mostly just to see him but still. Then they draft one of my former players, my sons teammates, and a kid I think the world of so I do a 180 for the Pistons because I love JI. This ish been hard to watch tho. All I’m 100% of is that he was at the crib about 3 weeks ago and he got swole up this summer
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 15 дней назад
@@chrischarles4110 I definitely hope he stops being a terrible player, or that he gets traded.
@chrischarles4110
@chrischarles4110 15 дней назад
@@scottwickett1273 I was about to respond and tell you how ignorant of a statement that was. In all reality tho, I’d rather jump on a flight to go see him play then watch the Pistons misuse him for another season. Y’all scooped him with the 5th pick, remember that this time next year
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 13 дней назад
​@@chrischarles4110Monty was a disaster for Ivey. Do you expect Ivey to make a leap defensively?
@DetroitFlip5680
@DetroitFlip5680 16 дней назад
I can understand moving Ivey because he is a poor man's Westbrook with no jump-shot at all. But moving Stewart would be a huge mistake!
@Antonio-h7c
@Antonio-h7c 14 дней назад
Ivey definitely got a jump shot team play better with him as pg numbers back it up to
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 13 дней назад
Ivey has been improving as a three point shooter. Did you mean to complain about Ron or Ausar not being able to shoot?
@ABruhMan
@ABruhMan 10 дней назад
I rather have Thompson or Beasley at the 2 anyway. Ivey defense alone always made me not like him like that
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 3 дня назад
You know ball!
@Antonio-h7c
@Antonio-h7c 15 дней назад
Hopefully we don't trade either but if we trade Ivey need to get a Simon or moody
@elliottnovak7144
@elliottnovak7144 15 дней назад
My biggest fear for ivey is that hes just a jordan Clarkson. Like it wouldn't be terrible but, i guees thag my fear. Score only players are some of my leadt favorite especially the ones that cant spot up very well.
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 13 дней назад
Some of us feared that even before the draft, and our fears have basically been proven correct so far.
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 13 дней назад
Ivey's three point shooting is improving. He had fewer turnovers as a rookie than Cade. He'll be a three level scorer passer playmaker. Defense is a problem. The hope is for Ivey to be tolerable on defense. I have similar issues with Duren on defense. I have greater doubts about Duren being good enough to justify not starting Ausar.
@dbuck2862
@dbuck2862 16 дней назад
I have a feeling these reporters and news outlet want our players in other cities to make those team better. They need to evaluate this season if CADE can be a leader and guide his team to better records and get on players imo. If he isn't we need to consider if he really is the Star franchise player for this team before we move young players that may be better than him in upcoming years.
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 16 дней назад
"May be better than him" seems very unlikely at this point.
@dbuck2862
@dbuck2862 16 дней назад
@@scottwickett1273 men lie, women lie, number don't lie.. prove it with stats and data as i always say when you make that comment.
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 16 дней назад
@@dbuck2862 Those other guys suck, if you want stats look at how much worse Duren is than Stew in terms of FG% against as the primary defender, and then just watch Ivey play defense. This team still has a core of one (1) player, but I have high hope for Ausar and Ron too!
@dbuck2862
@dbuck2862 16 дней назад
@@scottwickett1273 i look at yearly stats, and see if they progress. Stew didn't play much last year so his stats are based on the few games he played. Same way i look at CADE missing so many games want to see how he plays a full 82 game season with playing at least 85% of his games.
@elliottnovak7144
@elliottnovak7144 15 дней назад
​@@dbuck2862 How many stars actually play that many games anymore? 😂
@jefferya.7119
@jefferya.7119 15 дней назад
Ivey is a great player who hasn't had much of a chance to grow. The pistons foolishly tried to play all rookies and one year player like a fab 5, but this is the pros. They need experienced leadership on the floor. If the pistons start trading all their growing players, they are going to lose and other team will get better. This mistake the Warriors use to make.
@jeromepassmore7625
@jeromepassmore7625 16 дней назад
I doubt Ivey gets traded. Ivey's going to prove he belongs. I want to see what he's like after the shooting coach works with him.
@PistonsTalk
@PistonsTalk 16 дней назад
We all know he belongs last season was just unacceptable
@jeromepassmore7625
@jeromepassmore7625 16 дней назад
@@PistonsTalk I won't hold last completely against him unless his play is the same.
@Antonio-h7c
@Antonio-h7c 14 дней назад
The Ivey hate is way outta control they say trade everyone but cade but everyone play better with out cade why not trade cade
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 13 дней назад
Cade has the greatest trade value and is the closest to being able to force a trade. I get why the Pistons want to build around him. But I suspect Cade will start pushing for a trade after two more years of being on a terrible team.
@chucku.1745
@chucku.1745 15 дней назад
Understand the infatuation with stew. He's undersized and we need more scoring on this team. Bye👋🏽
@scottwickett1273
@scottwickett1273 13 дней назад
It's not infatuation, it's just the least-bad option because Duren is fucking shitty.