Reacting to England's Test series defeat to India 🏏 | Hussain, Atherton, Key & Ward 

Respect the 2nd e and n please. It's *quite* important.

@@GraemeRoberts you guys whine about literally everything 😂

Why drop Moen Ali? Selection was poor.

What about their batting line-up which has let them down in this series?

Actually they missed Monty panesar from 2012 tour

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Yes that’s fair but why are u acting like India didnt bring a whole load of excuses when they lost the first test. I’ve never seen anything like it

@@Michaelc-cb7jc name a few of those for me?

@@Michaelc-cb7jc QAnon got you

@@rxdfxctngxming9455 where to start: flat pitch, didn’t have a good team, virat was captain, missing jadeja, England batsmen were lucky. There’s a few

But u have to apply.... Otherwise 135/10

@@kabuto4692 Eng had 8 batsmen and still couldn't get to 250. Luckily the new addition in Dan Lawrence got their total some respectability

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Agreed, he is a great commentator and when interviewing people he asks pertinent questions and most importantly allows them to answer without interrupting. He is also unbiased in his reading of the game giving respect to opponents when called for. A good man and in past times a great England captain

The best two current commentators alongside Harsha Bhogle.

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@@thomaslindsay1607 Harsha is a mediocre commentator. Nasser, Holding are in the league of their own. Ps - my humble opinion.

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Time stamp?

Copied from the tweet of Michael vaughan

Axar Patel is a upcoming brilliant spinner of the world.He played just 3 test against England.

He is damn good ..

@@bravewarrior1218 too early to judge.

@@samzero00james crybaby?

Exactly

Agreed. Should have kept the same team. Never change a winning team!! Buttler should have stayed and played the whole series, that was a mistake.

@@mrkipling2201 Archer was injured. Buttler should have played

It wasn’t the cricket that lost them this series after test 1. It was their attitude by ‘resting’ players, that allowed India to capitalise and play much better.

No it wasn't. England batsmen CANNOT play spin. END

Bro, they need to practice very well against swing if they want to win the WTC and then, against ENG.

@@atriacharya2967 have some sweet memories in Lords across formats,we will do it definitely again.

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Me too❤️❤️

@@Narendersingh-id5ng aaj Sunday hai 😒

Nalla hai kya Bhai 😂😂😂

@SAFFY7411 hyperbole??

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True due to Pandemic I guess

Karthik was horrible..

Yeah...Dasgupta,Agarkar and Kartik can't match them... Only Sunny Gavaskar can

@Siddharth Sriram agree👍🏻

We are stuck with crap commentary where people in UK enjoy these legends in commentary. I mean how can earth can you allow Murli Karthik and Ajith Agarkar in commentary box

Absolutely, one area in India where most past past plAyers generally suck up to the current senior members of the team.

Angrezi samajh nahi aayi 🤔

@@SeachGateINDIA pls learn, if you want to.

@Donnie Darko they suck in hindi commentary too...

Agreed

@snehasapphire88 That we can't do anything abt. But I have seen people abusing other cricketing legends even in Live podcasts etc. Like Michael Vaughan in Cricbuzz chatter. That can be avoided I guess

@@anshumanabhishek5177 Some of the comments I've read from Indian supporters during this series, quite frankly, have been absolutely disgraceful. I understand that India is on a high after first beating Australia in Australia and now winning this series, but being on a high is no excuse for the plethora of insults and put-downs I've been reading. Congratulations to the Indian team, they are playing extremely well and they have some wonderful cricketers in the team. But there are two options for Indian supporters when it comes to how they want to be judged by the rest of the cricket world....do you want to be admired and looked up to, or do you want to be looked down upon for your arrogance and crude, ugly abuse? It's your choice.

@@ray.shoesmith Thing is, India consists of huge amount of people with different backgrounds and cultures. There are people who don't have anything but to these things and take some kind of fun out of it. Lack of awareness in some places is also is a big issue. And as India's population is huge, that small percentage is also huge. So when they do these things it can be seen everywhere, but trust me, that's just tip of the iceberg and there are way more number of people than these guys in India who are real cricket lovers. Cause real cricket lovers don't abuse legends of the game....

@lord cyber I am a football supporter myself, but never have I seen the sheer amount of foul language used for the cricket analysts, old legends etc. just for their opinions. I can see the trolling everywhere in other sports too (although in our case it's way more), but it's the abuse part. Anywhere I go I find the comment section absolutely filled with such comments. Some cricketer is being remembered of his own past failures, some would be abused etc. etc. Donno how r u gonna improve if u have zero tolerance level and how can u be respected for being number one if u behave like this. Now when you r down people from everywhere will troll everytime....

@@anshumanabhishek5177 Sir you must surely have your own valid reasons as to what you are stating/ claiming and I as an Indian I would not try to deny them because i don't have the knowledge as to what foul language that was used but i would like to point out that these incidents have happened in the past in various parts of the world and England also has an history of abusing cricketers and legends of the game. If I point out a few instances they would be, when Steve Smith came out to bat after walking off the field ailing to concussion; the amount of foul language and boo's he received was just disheartening and disrespectful to see. My main point is these things happen everywhere so please as an request don't just point out India for it.

I think the rotation policy is good. I know they lost this series but if you look at the greater good, they have preserved their players for even bigger tournaments than this series like the world cup and ashes. I know if England had won this series they could have qualified for wtc finals but tbf they had very bleak chances of winning this series.

This rotation policy is ill-conceived. You do not rotate players with the intent to give up one big series in favour of some future ones...as if those wins are guaranteed. They have issues with players and their commitments to the national side, and until those are meaningfully addressed, they will always cop out. Stated generously, this was a mediocre team with a terribly depleted bowling team, and an ever worse attitude going by how they played spin. Like you said - there seems to be a rush to move on. Test match cricket is all about playing time.

No of books behind him suggest.same

I'm still sore about the 2012-13 outcome man.

2012 was a lucky series victory becoz most of indian batsman were so aged..

India batted poory this series.. Bowlers saved batsman asses

He is a big reason for their loss. He was a literal minus to the team

@@sreddi83 its a team sports. He was up against best spin players. 3 of 5 spinner India used struggled in the series as well. Bowler automatically do well when your batting perform.

@@SahilG23 lol he was bowling full tosses. How can one defend him

@@sreddi83 Eng had 8 batting options and still didn't get to 250 on a good wicket. . . .

@@kevinmenezes8386 Yh England batted horribly but rightly or wrongly everyone expected that from them. Yh not even managing 250 is wretched. But being a spinner in India and being unbowlable in arguably the best conditions ur likely to receive in ur career, not a gd look

Can you explain pls ?? How

@@Ganeshmeena14 he is talking about his library...that's the wisdom!

@@vimaltomar9336 what he Said about his Library ?? Man

Kehna kya chahte ho 🤔

No not like that A book can't be judged by merely its Cover page.

@@Narendersingh-id5ng still talented than you 😎😎😎😎

Narender singh they are more talented then you

@@Narendersingh-id5ng chup chutiye

@@riyasen4569 sahi gal

Only after 1999, Before that tendulkar played with likes of , ratra, dahiya, sadgopnan ramesh , Msk Prasad etc And bowlers were no that good either ..

With that, India would've beaten AUS in 2003, 2007, 2011 in AUS.

Current batsman are unlucky to bat in most bowling friendly era against best attacks of their respective country. Imagine this indian batting on those aus highways in 2003 against bitchel Katich kasporvich etc

Add Dhoni as keeper and you've got a full deck.

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I had so much respect for Michael Vaughan but after that He deserves to get trolled

Ya Xin let's be fair it's his opinions

He is acting like a 12 year old kid @Michael Vaughan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Indian people are extremely sensitive to everything

@@HkFinn83 not really. There are some sensitive fans in every country. Its just that our fan base itself is massive so every sub-group in it also are large in numbers and thus make a lot of noise.

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Fabulous observation

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Thnx bro

Thanks bro

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Tum bohut mast kaam karta hai maqsood bhai

He z sage like and Mature like a life Coach.

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The kind the boring Indian commentators miss. Barring harsha

I watch Fox sports if it is Australia and sky sports if it is England. I never tune to Star sports or Ten sports. Quality of commentary is abysmal.

Ye Gagan Chummi Chakka 😂😂

@@9825044718 yeah that one bit of commentary tells the quality of commentary. Always a biased commentary. If you played a sport,first thing you will know is to appreciate the good performances irrespective of which team or player doing it. Jimmy Anderson bowled a fantastic inswing delivery and the commentators were talking about how well the Indian batsman left the ball. There was so much to talk about there- upright seam of the ball,reverse swing,length of the ball.but they choose to ignore it. Pathetic!

@@balnanj even Sunny too big fan of them both

Why is ANU capitalised in man-u?! GF name??

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Arey bhai bhai bhai 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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That's pretty good

Jack Leach, Bess ??

@@balajibalagopalakrishnan7938 I meant successful modern day spinners for England have all been of South Asian origin..... Bess and Leach both made their test debuts in 2018 so there still relatively new....Haven't proven to be as successful as the South Asian ones... Just trying to point out that England has a problem in producing spinners... But I hope Bess and Leach can carry the team in future tests

South Africa never really had a front line spinner in their peak years. All other nations have had at some point a spinner who takes more then 300+ wickets.

I thought Giles was good too during the 2005 ashes series. Of course seems a long time ago and your comment makes sense.

@@sriramkuravi he was nothing in front of that golden Indian batting lineup!

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its a known fact that most of the indian commentators are on the payroll of the bcci, so they can't be objective or not bias. Just like how Harsha got booted from the comm box a few yrs ago!

@@eyecontrol4900 You got that right my friend. You can only think of being neutral or criticizing Indian performance when you ready to retire from BCCI payroll.

@@eyecontrol4900, well, my comment was towards the general Indian audience, but yes sure, point taken.

Yeah he is always their for series in England

I really wish Bumble and Nasser and Michael Holding commentated Deep Dasgupta LS Agarkar and Murali Karthik aren't the best ..no disrespect Gavaskar and Bhogle are very insightful

@@Phurngirathaana laxman sivramkrishnan too!

@@Phurngirathaana Harsha, Nas, bumble.............

@Sergey Brin really ? Rob Key has been toxic for the whole week now

@Donnie Darko yeah only be a whinging one!🤣🤣

Some of his points are biased towards English, clearly we can see. Whereas the greats Nas & Mike are all logic and makr sense

@@ashishsodhi4299 this is an English cricket show....so deal with it. We don't expect any dispassionate neutral analysis from an Indian shows. So, you should expect the same

@@ashishsodhi4299 well said

Do you think our players weren't desperate or giving it their all when we lost 4-0 in Australia....3-1 in England....we still have never won a test series in South Africa...all of these players are playing at the international level...if they did not have the drive and commitment they would not have made it this far....you do not have any respect for these players effort and also the effort it takes to reach this stage

@@thunderhammer593 no disrespect meant but honestly it didn't seem enough. Stokes and Anderson did everything in their power even leach. But others not enough. Look at root just opening up the field against pant allowing him to milk singles just coz he is way too afraid , way too defensive. The mentality wasn't there lets be honest.

@@thunderhammer593 it's about mindset! Those teams that lost in Australia, England and South Africa never believed that they would comeback after one loss. It's hard to make a comeback in away series. That's why last Australia series is just amazing because that won't happen every time! England players just couldn't find the right mindset after they lost the second match.

@@thunderhammer593 sathyam frende

Haha! Good one!

Perfect..openers will make a great impact and if they loose openers then obviously pressure will be to in coming batsmans.....

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I would say bring cook back in the team even at his current age he can outperform the current openers that england have got

England's openers have been wretched since Cook. Might as well open with Buttler and Hales and give them license to whack it.

I hope you guys bounce back in the t20s... You have a great squad for the limited overs cricket

@Prathamesh Rohit Sharma laughing in the corner lol

@Prathamesh India is also good at the white ball we won T20 series in australia, england, west indies, sri lanka, south africa and new zealand. Don't forget 2 best white ball players are rohit sharma and virat kohli.

@Prathamesh Rohit Sharma scored most runs and centuries in WC 2019..

@Prathamesh We won more ICC titles than england. England was lucky to win the WC 2019 becoz of poor umpiring otherwise outcome would be different.

@RJ R don't be a lifetime muppet

It's fine mate. India I believe can prove in their pitches too. They don't like wickets spinning because they don't see it like we do. If the boys can do it in England, they will stop with it.

He is as bad a pundit as he was a player

@@MrAshlypatel I wish he was sacked by sky and that they could appoint a better presenter coz he’s too bad a pundit to be appointed as a pundit. They should reappoint Gower and Botham.

@@thomaslindsay1607 I'd much rather have Botham. If you're gonna have a moaner, make him an entertaining moaner. Key is decent, but Botham is box office.

Engineer for a reason ❤️

India's results in England over the last 10 years are 4-0, 3-1, 4-1 😅

England’s players have come in for justified criticism within England, just as the questioning over the pitches has been justified. Just stick to T20 and stop trying to bleach cricket further.

That’s not true there is heavy criticism in England about our batsmen’s ability to play spin, selection policies and our spin bowling. I also remember Virat Kohli complaining about the size of the Edgbaston Boundary after England beat India in the World Cup. So even the King makes excuses.

@@JW_PUNK29 check your country's performance in India before making fun of us.😂

@@believeinme1225 He’s not making fun of India he’s just saying just as India are strong at home, they have been very poor in English conditions (and NZ). So far they can’t cope with all conditions it seems.

It will be a close series. Both the teams are equally capable to win. England does not have an edge in white ball . Both the teams are equally matched.

If the pitch has even 10% spin England will be wiped out

India is not playing their best team in odis and t20is

@@behappy9262 And what is India's best team in odis, t20s? There hasn't been a fixed middle order in years.

@@rhitambhargoswami8696 not about the batting line up as it is top notch but the bowling line up as india is not playing with bumrah shami

This series would have far more interesting if they would have had better plan for rotation ...WTC Final for grabs and their dressing room is like a bus station ppl coming and going ..

@@knowledgebasket8393 Yes. I guess the management was looking at the broader picture with so much of cricket to be played and that's why they emphasized on the rotation. There is the IPL, T20 Blast, Hundred, 15 more tests including the Ashes, and the WT20.

@@kevinmenezes8386 but considering wtc on the line ..this series must have had the highest priority ...why cant players skip ipl for a year.. that too when they played it 5 months back ...Test is the pinnacle of cricket and i feel its not being given the respect it deserves...Going by the logic of planning for wt20 we have one more next year again ipl bbl . In 2023 we have ODI wc ... World cups cant be an excuse for not sending full strength teams for test matches ...in T20 and ODI full squad will be there then why cant for Test its not about rotation its about when you rotate ...eng could have rested players for ODI

@@knowledgebasket8393 At the end of the day, scheduling Sports matches is to generate revenue and that can be done mainly by viewership. England is one of the few teams to take Test cricket seriously and that's why despite WTC qualification being on the line they have played so many series and matches. I don't think eng is concerned on winning at all costs, it's more to do with building a culture, team for the future and to offer as much cricket as possible to the fans.

Exactly

Even after the first test they were beaming with confidence, but the second innings performance of that very test was the one where they got exposed and from there onwards the journey was downhill!!

@@Amarjit_Singh yes the real batting line up of England was exposed in their second innings

@@angadindwar8298 chink in their armour

@@Amarjit_Singh we were not confident at all at any time haha

Include Sunny ji also

Nasser and Atherton for normal commentary, Sunny G in for his spicy takes

@@nihalprakash8883 Basically! And Bishop for his unforgettable words for when India win the first WTC 😉

Include Harsha and Ian Smith

Mark Nicholas,Michael Holding and Botham are great too

I think a commentator was talking about how he was looking at the batsman, and not actually looking where he was going to land the ball. That could be why Bess is inaccurate a lot of the time.

Dom Bess needs to find another sport.

For me Dom should be given confidence , he is Nathon Lyon kind of bowler , he did shown in first test first innings ,

@@mehtabhussain5363 everyone is a superman in the first game.Then they get exposed by the great Indian comeback. Its all downhill from there.

He needs to work on his everything

More Indian excuses? Now you are moaning about the coin. Stop whinging and whining.

@@peternagy-im4be This series would have far more interesting if they would have had better plan for rotation ...WTC Final for grabs and their dressing room is like a bus station ppl coming and going ..

@@knowledgebasket8393 lol 🤣

@@knowledgebasket8393 Haha nice 1

@@peternagy-im4be Look who's talking about whining... 2nd test India almost got 600 in the entire match n England couldn't manage to cross 200 in both innings n you'll start crying about the pitch n stuff. Despite winning tosses England lacked application in batting n putting up big scores in 1st innings which is imperative. When we say anything you guys label it as Indian excuses wow get a life!!

Exactly... Well spotted

@Garvit Mehta typical indian mindset

Exactly

Crawley scored 90% of his 50 run against Fast bowlers TBh

And even foakes he is good keeper and bat's well.. They all are still young... This english fans and experts are hard on them...

Why no Woakes or Sam Curran Idiotic team selection

Crawley's 50 was Fraud, just took advantage of pace-bowlers, literally was a walking wicket against Spin

@@sumith8918 They got thumped despite having the best of conditions

I thought that to

Too many good players to talk about! 😊

i thought he wanted to go back home so they allowed him?

He wanted to come home bro.

They asked him to stay on but he wanted to go home.

He would have made an impact. Who knows

He wanted to go. He didn't want Indian batters to hit him after the second match. Honestly he is not talented enough to be in the international side. But England has such dearth of good spinners even someone like Moeen can play a hundred matches in the international side. He wouldn't be allowed to play even 10 tests if he was in India. He is a first class domestic player at his best.

Most stylish...don't make them like Gower anymore ..😭

Wow! You must be really old. Most loved English batsman in India is Kevin Peterson.

Well said n even Robin Smith n Ian Botham

And then just to add fuel to the fire, you have guys like Bale and Giggs in Wales.

Go Cool

Absolutely right, mate. So much of cricket is down to climate and pitches. It's both the beauty and ridiculousness of the game.

So who will be the favorites in the ind vs eng series in England

But at least India would go down fighting even it's 4-0 like they did last time unlike England who rely on toss, also even if India bats under sun and England bats under clouds in one test then it would be 3-1 for sure, I hope you got the point. The fact that England had a big advantage to bat in best batting conditions in 4th and still lost by an innings lol, I mean India did way better in 2018 even after losing all the tosses especially that Lord's one

@@GauravYadav-bf7qj England went down fighting they just weren’t good enough in those conditions. The pitches were not the problem as well apart from the 3rd test which was awful. India getting bowled out for 145 in their first innings proved that. India will fight in the series in the summer but I still think England will win comfortably. Due to the way we play in our conditions.

@@samirpaul3909 England. Especially with the skill of Anderson and Broad.

As abysmal as England have been the pitch for the second and third tests was farcical and lazy dismissal of the criticism of it only harms test cricket. Your Neanderthal mentality is exactly what is killing the purest format of the game

@@cadetkidkilla the 2nd test pitch? The one where India scored 615 in total?

@@soumyapradhan6107 Yes, regardless of a team’s ability to play spin it’s commonly accepted that a pitch should deteriorate over time so as to offer something for all facets of the game. It’s a shame because this Indian attitude is simply going to lead to a race to the bottom for pitches, with spin becoming even less influential in other countries as we become forced to produce greener wickets that won’t deteriorate and Australia try to producer faster tracks. It’s just another area of the game that Indian impatience and simplicity is going to damage just like with their T20 hysteria. The pitch didn’t need to be so doctored, Axar and Ashwin are just fantastic and their variation was absolutely fantastic to watch, the batsmen looked totally pinned by every ball.

@@cadetkidkilla well that’s the challenge of playing in overseas conditions, what’s the point of watching cricket everyday on same pitches. And there’s now where written that the ball can’t turn on day 1

@@cadetkidkilla no idea what you're on. If a batting lineup fails then it's on them! The pitch was good enough for an Indian number 8 to score a century in the second innings! By your rationale, if a batting lineup struggles then it's just because of the pitch? Why did Australia not lose at the gabba for decades?

BCCI's President Sourav Ganguly recommended it to ICC last year, that there should be a series between England, India and Australia and a 4th rank team South Africa/NZ whoever is playing brtter, so fans get to see high quality cricket. But ICC told that it ll create huge disparity among other bottom teams and world crickrt will go down. 🤨

@@ashishsodhi4299 wow i didn't knew about that

That's what Big 3 was about. Quadrilateral test series between India, Aus, England and a 4th team that would be rotated between NZ, SA, Pak, etc whoever is the best of the remaining test teams. England and Australia betrayed BCCI in the ICC after giving their words. That is also one of the reason why India do not trust and is not supporting England and Aus anymore in the ICC meetings. Do not be surprised if Pink ball test gets scrapped up in future.

Their pride was hurt badly in 1947, and they never recovered.

nobody has said that lol