Reacting to JxmyHighroller Re-Making My NBA Goat Pyramid 

Kawhi is single handedly gonna have the most confusing and debated legacy when he retires. He’s gonna have similar accolades to guys in the top 15 but he’ll retire with less points and less steals than Thaddeus Young because of how little he plays. He’s not even on the top 250 scorers and here’s all the people drafted the same year as him with more career points: kyrie, kemba, klay Thompson, vucevic, jimmy butler, and Tobias harris. He has less points than these guys drafted years after him: middleton (2012), cj McCollum (2013), Wiggins (2014), KAT and Book (2015). Isaiah Thomas was drafted the same season as kawhi, only had around 4-5 season starting, maybe 8 or 9 seasons of rotation minutes, and is out of the league. He sits only 1500 points behind kawhi and averages 8ppg on his career compared to kawhis 20ppg 😂

I feel like clique values talent over anything else.

Bro clique singing the new Kanye song at the beginning is crazy 💀

I agree in Chris Paul over John Stockton, of course. For Jokic, I'm pretty sure he will be there in 2 or 3 years if he plays like the 2 last seasons. And for Harden ... no, he's in the same case as Iverson, really good but so inconsistent.

It's NOT about the different era they played. It's about what they were able to achieve DURING their era.

Clique we need you to make your own pyramid now

Clique reacting to Jimmy is the greatest duo ever

Cp3 over Stockton really just for the Era clause, he even mentioned their defenses with Paul having 4 more all-defensive team

Honestly I agree with Jimmy, Harden never succeeded in the playoffs, neither did cp3, and neither did Jokic. and this is a goat pyramid

20 minutes into the video and you finally realise it's a top 30. NA education at it's finest

Bro definitely has notifications on for this channel at this point 😂 the video came out 2 hours ago and he’s already posted a 30 min reaction

I literally watched jimmy’s video less than an hour ago but here I am

I think it's fair to not have Harden on there. If you have consistently choked in the playoffs for pretty much your whole career as a star, you can't be that far up in the ranking. If you didn't have a problem with A.I. being left off then you shouldn't have a problem with Harden being left off as well, they are about the same calibre of greatness.

A GOAT list is not about talent. Every player in the NBA has talent. Being a top 30 player takes WAY more than just talent. Jokic, CP3 and Harden aren’t there yet.

I'm sure that jimmy said that he was gonna choose 2 of the potential additions not all of them

I feel like clique didn't listen at the start of the vid. He said multiple times that he was only going to have 30 players on the list. Yet clique kept trying to add players past 30.

Imo Tim Duncan gotta be tier 2

Jxmy: “I’m not heavily valuing longevity” *heavily values longevity*

15:35 Jimmy valueing longevity over peak 😂

Showing love to Timmy D tells me you know basketball, that's why I be watching clique. 💯

jimmy’s video has only been up for 2 hours man. this is feinding fr.

So to address the Stockton vs Paul argument specifically, I think people are forgetting that Stockton holds the record for most assists and steals of all time. One of the criteria on the GOAT list was accomplishments. That's a hard one to beat.

I love that every reaction to Jimmy's pyramid turns into a John Stockton slander video

Clique was not paying attention today 😂

Clique hates older players and it really shows.

Stockton has two absurd accomplishments that can’t be ignored. No matter how much you hate him, the fact that he’s the all time leader by far in 2/5 major statistical categories guarantees him a spot in the top 30

Was waiting for this video

the era thing says "if two players have identical resumes the edge goes to the more recent players" and he said stockton and paul had near identical resumes then immediately gave stockton the edge I dont understand it

9:53 Elgin is wearing a Seattle jersey because he went to Seattle University for college

Barkley won MVP and took his team to the Finals the same year and would have won it if it wasn't for Jordan

LeBron with Jordan is wrong. MJ should be the peak and LeBron be the top. The 2 best ever to do it but 70% of people are taking MJ over LeBron.

You really hurt your credibility when you start trying to make a case for James Harden, because no matter how good of a score he was harden is probably the worst defender on this list and that’s without me even looking at the list but the one time that I watch this video in fact, I’m willing to bet that James Harden is when all metrics are calculated one of the worst defensive players, in NBA history that played in a more years now if you wanted to remove somebody you should’ve been talking about Bill Walton because no matter how good his numbers were Bill Walton barely played professional basketball.

John Stockton the real point god y’all sleeping he literally put Karl Malone 2nd on the all time points list

clique bro winning matters

Yo this crazy I haven’t watch a jimmy video in months lol

Yeah, I agree that talent-wise cp3 is better than Stockton, maybe even over Isiah Thomas. But he did not reach his full potential because of injuries and playoff disappearances. Despite that he is still a top 5 PG all time, but he didn't have a better career than stock, IT, or dwade so I agree with jxmy on this one

I think some of these picks are waiting on the player's career to mature and solidify. Like, how well will the career maintain? will the players peak end up bottoming out into a ridiculous low? This current era has the talent for several new entries.

I feel like Stockton is just one of those players that heavily divides fans. Some think he’s a top 3 pg of all time while some think he ain’t even top 10. In my opinion it’s not horrendous to have Stockton over Chris Paul

Bro Stockton got the most assist and steals for a reason but some respect on bros name

I always forget jokic is in his 20s, he just looks like he’s 40

Hot takes: longevity>peak when considering legacy consistent excellence is > then short term goat status.era should be irrelevant from the 70s onward.and skill is also irrelevant the players with the deepest bag aren’t the best players their are many examples including Kyrie for example. The only things being considered should be accolades and stats you can choose what you value more but those are facts non subjective category and guaranteed things that happened

No Westbrook consideration even in the next 10?? Ik he sucks rn but he’s definitely around Stockton all time.

I needa see your list I feel this is a very interesting way to rank players, top 30 is crazy but I think the list is a better than most.

Harden not going anywhere in the playoffs in any team he’s been on kinda makes him being in the top 30 kinda impossible

Stockton is the most underrated player in NBA history. His assists record and steals record are two records that will be very hard to beat. Jordan, Pippen, IT, and many more people of that era all say john Stockton was one of the hardest players to play against. Stockton is the only reason Karl Malone had the career he did.

*Jimmy specifies this pyramid is ultimately all based off his own opinion" *Clique towards the end of the video* "Nah man I disagree that's crazy" 🤣

clique oh I forgot about kawhi whispers I love kawhi

Russell Westbrook not even in the honorable mention baffles me.

Ughhhhh, he repeatedly said his pyramid is TOP 30. SO IF HE TOOK OUT 2 PLAYERS FROM THE ORIGINAL, MATHEMATICALLY, ADDING ALL THE 5 NEW ONES HE MENTIONED WON'T MAKE SENSE. And your own ranking was only based on one of Jimmy's criteria, which is skillset. Jimmy had 4 criteria. He clearly explained why Harden is not there, because of playoff success, which is part of accomplishments. While you talked trash about Pippen, who was the 2nd best player on a championship team, who fvcking won 6!!! I could go on.

Jimmy rocking with John Havlicek in his top 30 is absolutely wild. Even David Robinson, Pippen, and Barkley don't really belong. Dwayne Wade is also at risk tbh.

Elgin played for Seattle University, hence the jersey

Clique definitely overvaluing these newer players. What has Harden done for his TEAM? 0-27 is what I think of and Harden was a part of that. John Stockton would have a championship or 2 if he didn’t have to face the GOAT every time he made the Finals, while Chris Paul had to beat an AD-less Lakers, a fraud Jazz team, and a Kawhi-less Clippers to make his first Finals. Let’s not forget that Stockton’s assist record will likely never be broken. Jokic is just too young and has also has not had any serious team/playoff success.

Jokic is up there now

My man had to count instead of just doing 30-2... And then still got it wrong.

can’t believe tracy mcgrady isn’t on here

MJ is better than Lebron on both sides of the court! When you look at Jordans' just career and the way that he did things is just absolutely remarkable. In fact, the moment that Jordan got an All-star he never lost 2 games in a row. About domination, there's is no greater example than Jordan. He truly dominated the sport in every aspect. Jordan is also considered as the best 2-way player in the history of basketball. He's the only player in the history of sport that has 10 scoring titles and has 9 All-first Defensive teams and also a DPOY. There's no player that has ever played basketball that has that type of resume when you're talking about an argument of who was the most COMPLETE basketball player to ever play the game and no one comes close to Jordan. Then when you also factor in the fact that he was able to 3peat 2 times. You also factor in the fact he has the highest scoring average in regular season history in the NBA. He has also the highest scoring average in the playoffs even higher than Chamberlain. Then you also factor in his cultural impact, fear factor, the beauty of this basketball game. I don't think that Lebron getting that records. That's why the MVP trophy from now on will be called "The Michael Jordan Trophy".

Dude doesn't even watch the video... It's a top 30 and he's tryna add all 5 of the possible additions, he's moaning about James Harden but the video said Accomplishments were the biggest factor and Harden has no post season record at all.

Jokic already has a better career than everyone on tier 5 and 4

Jxmmy too critical to modern era? Or maybe young NBA fans like you, me and most of your viewers have bias towards the era that they witnessed with their own eyes?

Bro John Stockton gets so much hate from the younger generation and it is so annoying. Ya'll just ignore the fact that he's probably the 2nd greatest passer of all time, and was always a lockdown defender, while also leading in all time steals by a huge margin. He has 3,265 career steals and 2nd place only has 2,684. He also leads in all time assists. He has 15,806 assists while second place is only 12,091. He was named to 11 All-NBA teams and also hit some big time shots and was an underrated 3 point shooter.

Clique does not miss

AI and Harden are damn near the same so if you leave 1 out you leave the other out, no buts or ifs

22:20 "jordan had no competition"-🤓☝

17:00 its that Giannis is a champ and an mvp not close or runner up but i agree stockon needs to be off the list him being top in stls and assists carry him

T4: Moses, garnett, nowitzki, Erving, antetokounmpo, durant, pippen, wade, thomas T5: havelicek, baylor, harden, robertson, Robinson, leonard, west, paul, iverson

20:21 ngl Jokic over Baylor is a crazy assimilation of words put into a sentence

Your values include recency bias

James Harden is one of the best scorers of all time in the regular season, so for me a guy that averaged 36 ppg deserves a spot at least in tier 5

In fact that could be your video Idea John Stockton vs cp3 career simulation

I saw jimmy upload the video and I said in my head I know clique will react and waited.

Jerry West was regularly getting cooked in the playoffs just like Harden how are they not on the same level.

clique hating on the older generation for not having enough talent too funny 😭

Dr. J should be tier 3 ABA records should hold some weight

Bro is just stealing Jimmy's whole catalog

So basically now I won't watch the Jxmy video, I'm gonna wait to Clique reation... XD

2:52 if you’re moving Shaq Hakeem and Tim Duncan up to tier 2 and keeping tier 3 with only 3 guys then it defeats the whole purpose of the pyramid format.

16:38 the answer to that question is simple this is the goat pyramid according to the mind of one James issac highroller

I Know Westbrook only has 1 mvp but mans was averaging a triple double for like 2-3 years straight, 😮

John stockton holds an unbeatable record in assists and steals though

I aint never seen dwade be this dissrespected

I felt the d wade disrespect was insane imo

Damn right it’s a cursed thumbnail

in my opinion, Kobe and TD should be in the same tier

We got a new term, his Peak is his Longevity.

Stockton top 30 is crazy

bird was drafted in 1978, magic in 79, not the eighties

Jimmy is right tbh. I can see an argument being made for CP3 over Stockton or whoever because he has the longevity of being really good but the just flat out bad playoff performances really hurt his case so I have no issue with that. If we're going purely off regular season games Jokic would be a lock but he’s also done nothing in the playoffs and still has a ways to go in his career so I don't think keeping him off is all that crazy. James Harden is an absolute pass for me,. The teams he "led" sucked in the playoffs because he did, he played absolutely no defense whatsoever in his career and is just too inconsistent to deserve a place as a top 30 player all time. Harden was too busy going to strip clubs with Lil Baby and this man Clique is comparing him to Scottie Pippen who's one of the best wing defenders all time, actually showed up in the playoffs and averaged 16/6/5/2/1 playing next to Michael Jordan lmao

Cant agree with jxmmy much now bruh he values bum john stockton way too much

the kobe disrespect is insane 5 rings wake tf up

Stockton all time steals and all time assists

Clique a hater.

Make your own we want to see It

Bro how is Mr triple double not up there?????????

Part of the reason why players in the past had lower numbers was because of the pace at the time. Take those 80s and 90s players from the era and put them in now, they'd be averaging much better stats than before, and similar to current stars

I think kawhi is overhyped because of his toronto chip, he should be talked about as one of the biggest what-if's rather than one of the best of all time. He didnt drag a team of bums to the finals like bron, and hasnt played more than 60 games a season since '17 due to injuries. His shot against the Sixers tho, is definitely one of the greatest of all time.

Demote Karl Malone too. A tier rank ain't nuthin' but a number, right?

Cp3 over Stockton completey agree with Clique Jimmy's tripping

wasn't magic drafted in 79? not the 80s?

If you take cultural impact into account AI is like tier 2 lol

With Wilt and Abdul-Jabbar having strong GOAT arguments, they have to be at least Tier 2.