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When you don't care bout the reunion of them as the band and just care bout them being friends and getting back together to talk and be all amazing and cute TOGETHER that's the proof right there that you're a real fan and don't just care bout their music.
Honestly I would just like them to put all the cards on table. Either on Graham Norton or with James Corden and just say, "we are friends, we stay in touch but we are most likely not gonna put a new album as a band again. Because we have branched out into our own." And then just continue to have a fun and cute interview. I know it's not good for their brand and that's why they don't do it. But I think that a lot of us just feel "anxious" about this indefinit "hiatus"... :(
For real, i’d much rather this!!! We’re getting so much Lilo content at the moment and its amazing but would be so much better if they all make up and support each other solo as well🥺🥺
Exactly, I know it is difficult for them to come as a band together now because it is not as simple as it looks. But we miss seeing them together. They can just come together for a talk show like with James corden and all they will do is just react to the old video diaries and their moments. That is all I want. I just want to see them together tbh.
i would fully support if Louis and Harry were to be in a relationship, also i do adore their relationship as friends. But what i hate is knowing that they can’t even be seen together or hanging out, either because of the larry rumors or the management (if larry were to be real) i’d love to see them happy as friends or couple and just be able to support each other publicly
exactly! i am a hardcore larrie myself... but i dont like to connect every little thing to larry bc that’s just disrespectful to l and h’s other relationships. i would be so happy if they could just hang out together without everyone jumping to conclusions tho...
I'm not a Larrie or a Zarrie (I like looking at the proofs though, cause they're interesting) but I'd support Louis if he is with anyone you know. I think what I'm afraid of if that what if the same thing that happened to Camila and Lauren, happened to them. What if they do hang out as friends but have to do it in secret because fans are obsessed? It would literally hurt me to know that's how afraid the fans have made them, that they can't even interact.
they would like to as well, but imagine a bunch of ppl take pictures of you (straight) and your other straight friend (when you have a girlfriend and a baby) and photoshop your lips together saying you were kissing? Or every glance means you two are in love? I can imagine it would be incredibly annoying. Eventually, it got so annoying that if he would wear a green shirt when harry is wearing a blue, that would be a sign. Even if they were in different countries, ppl would say harry would somehow be in two places at once. Eventually, it ruined their friendship, understandably.
Oh and by the way, not about the Freddie situation, but when we doubt things it’s not because we think they’re liars but because we know how the industry works. It’s literally impossible for anyone in the industry to be totally truthful, we’ve seen publicity stunts and fake headlines before, we’ve looked into things and saw that they don’t make sense. We know they have to do things they don’t agree with and cover the truth sometimes, doesn’t mean we think they’re liars or that we don’t trust them. It’s the industry we don’t trust, and at least we’re clever enough to look more into things, not accept whatever is said and believe everything they want to feed us. (This has nothing to do with anyone btw, I’m just talking in general)
Yes yes yes. I believe Freddie is his son, definitely. But idk why they made the whole situation so fishy with the photoshopped baby pics and everything. Super weird. And the industry fucks people over - we've seen it time and time again. They closet people STILL, so when we doubt things (for us, very obvious), it's because we love them and want them to know "we see you, we love you, we don't trust the media, don't worry".
@@chickenstuffedwithmozarell5090 yeah I mean that’s why I don’t have an opinion on the matter. I understand why people are suspicious of the whole thing but I also don’t feel comfortable theorizing about it considering it involves a child. I just never talk about it. And yeah closeting and pr stunts are very much a prominent part of hollywood, everyone is aware of that but some people refuse to connect the dots and believe that perhaps not everything the media shoves down our throats is true. They think believing something other than what they’re told makes their fav a “liar” when it’s not even the artist’s doing, but the industry’s.
I’m a Larrie, I don’t really care if Freddie is Louis son’, whatever. But what pisses me off is everyone just hating us, sending death threats and accusing us for hating on the boys, no we don’t hate them and we’re not saying they’re lying at all. We’re hating on their management, whoever “controls” (harsh I know) them, this isn’t new, closeting, fake babies, fake marriages and pap walks etc. It’s been like this for years. I can probably name a few who’s had fake pregnancies and/or marriages, I’m not saying it is for Louis but I wouldn’t be surprised...
I think it can just be frustrating when people perpetuate a rumor that has harmed Harry and Louis' relationship and then complain that they themselves are a victim.
@@FeelTheLack I totally understand that, there are of course those people in every fandom who just really aren’t fans nor care at all. And the real Larries don’t hate on Freddie, he’s a kid, come on. We just don’t want him to be used for publicity ): Hope people get that.
Girl how can you name 'any' fake baby and marriage, you practically can't ! it's between two people, even if it appears fake to you, it's their choice to support this system, as celebrities involved in doing these things are grown ups and powerful, and can take their own decisions, they don't need some bunch of teenagers to save them from a forced fake " marriage or a baby" so anyone should better totally stay away from CLAIMING stuff about someone's personal life.
@@shailstia9137 Umh I can name many people who has been closeted and forced to marry women, go on pap walks and have a “long term relationship” with them, just because the industry is extremely homophobic. Lance Bass is probably the biggest example but also Neil Patrick Harris, Kristen Stewart who had to stay closeted if she wanted to be in a Marvel movie and so on. I can continue if you’d like 🥰 The music industry is trash and if you refuse to see that you’re just as homophobic as them! Good day.
He and Eleanor broke up in I think march 2015 and few months after that Briana got pregnant I don't know if they were even dating, in 2016 he was dating Danielle Campbell and then he started dating Eleanor again at the beginning of 2017
briana jungwirth is freddie’s mom, i think louis and her were seen hanging out for a short brief time and then the announcement came but they weren’t together after that i don’t think? and then he got back with eleanor in 2017* i believe. and he’s so strong with both his mom and sisters passing :(
louis has said multiple times that he doesn't want people to feel sorry for him. he's just focused on making good relatable music that helps make people happy and hopeful. he doesn't want such a huge focus on his private life, but instead on his songs. so keep that in mind.
Okeh so Louis has 7 siblings in total. 1 of em is from his actual dad's side and does not have the surname Tomlinson but she has Austin (like Louis had before) and she's not popular and isn't connected to Louis like the other ones. But he has met her. Whilst Lottie (Charlotte), Felicite (late), Daisy and Phoebe are his other step sibling's from Mark Tomlinson. And I think Ernest (brother) and Doris (sister) are the twins from a third man (Dan, is the name i think) whom Jay got married to in the 1d days, I'm not sure. But they live with their grandparenrs i think. Louis took the surname of Mark Tomlinson and excused himself from his actual birth name which was 'Louis Troy Austin'. All the siblings love each other vastly and show it wholeheartedly too which is adorable af. (Fuck i didn't know all this info was gonna be in the video- 🤦♀️ )
If there is one thing that can never be taken away from this man, it's how strong he is, and has been through it all. The way you bugged out about who his son's mother is had me rolling off my chair. I can see how that can be confusing though. Bless those poor little ones who were so young when their mom passed away, my heart aches for them (for them all, but it especially pulls at my heart strings for the babies). And his father does not sound like a very nice man, to say the least. I'm not sure I want to call him a "father", and certainly not a "dad", blood does not earn you those titles. I'm glad he had his step-dad in his life. Did you know he was named Louis Troy Austin at birth and then his mom changed his name to Louis William ? It's no wonder why! I'm of the mind that people can believe what they want to believe, but please leave kids out of the mess, which is messy enough already. I mean, Freddie is the spitting image of Louis. How would he be fake?
sorry but if you think Freddie isn't real don't call yourself a fan. Louis went through so much but still puts on a smile for us and i'm so grateful for that.
don’t say something like this! if there wouldn’t be as much evidence as there is no one would believe that he isn’t a father... people can believe in bbygt but still be a fan! but that’s only as long as you still respect his privacy just believing that he isn’t the father isn’t something bad
Larry is so sad tho because harry and louis were like the closest friends out of the entire band like you can tell in the video diaries and stuff. But when larry started they really drifted and its just so sad like they were best friends and now they can't even look at each other without conspiracies being made.
Year that’s what I think, like even if they had something or not, to get so far to the point that they weren’t allowed to show the love that they used to, it’s really sad. Bc like why do we care if they were best friends or in a relationship, as long as they were happy and free to be happy in public, I think that’s all it should’ve matter, but the management and the fans really mess with their relationship
this is such a sad video and i can't watch all the way through, but i just want to say (for some stuff you talked about in the video) we don't believe that the boys are liars!! at all!! it's all in their management. we see the industry and the way it works, know the extents to which they will go to get publicity and drama, and put things together. there's loads of proof (i clearly can't put it here cause people in this fandom get REALLY upset by controversial subjects) but yeah...i wouldn't dismiss some of the "proof" before looking into stuff. louis' literally one of the strongest people on this earth
I love Louis to death. I don’t know how some people can call themselves fans and spread all types of damaging rumors about their fav. As a Larry I’m going to say some Larries are bang out of order.
what you said about the criminalisation of drug users and stigma around that sort of thing is so important. The people who look down on those who use substances like that can't even see how lucky and privileged they are that they can go through life without ever needing to rely on substances. More people need to understand why people use drugs in the first place, it's because we need something to keep our will to live and unfortunately 'real' help such as therapy or access to medication isn't an option for a lot of people ( because of money, accessibility etc). therapy is very expensive and its so hard to get properly diagnosed and on the right medication especially when it feels like the whole system is out to get you. It is so, so important for people to hear messages like what you said, it's true, there is a stigma around mental illness that leads to unhealthy and dangerous coping mechanisms. But that isn't even our fault, it's the systems fault for forcing us to turn to & its societies fault for stigmatising mental disorders. I appreciate what you said, and i bet it helped a lot of people < 3
@@shailstia9137 we have different opinions. the industry is ALL about image, celebrities lie for the sake of PR all the time. There are dozens of closeted artists and famous people who can't come out because it would hurt their "image" and make the high up people less money. Everything's about money. It's not a stretch to think that the same could be true about 2 celebrities for which there's significant proof that that is the case. Why the hell do YOU feel the need to be rude to others without reason for a difference in opinion.
actually louis's mom was married 3 times, mark tomlinson was her 2nd husband and at her 3rd wedding in 2014 1d was present except zayn (i don't know why) mark is still close to tomlinson family cause ofc they have his last name, From her 1st marriage she gave birth to louis (but he consider mark as his father) from mark she gave birth to lottie, felicite, phoebe and daisy and from dan deakins (3rd) she gave birth to ernest and doris and i think dan isn't so close to louis but they do speak to each other, the siblings are closest to each other.
@@anagha8298 Yes, Jay and Mark were married. Louis talked about his parents divorce in the 1D documentary A year in the making (2011). They divorced at the time of X Factor and it was an amicable divorce as Mark was also often there supporting Louis, just like his Mum, during that time.
Louis and Eleanor broke up in March 2015 but they got back together 2 years later....BTW like the lyrics in ‘too young’ “it’s been 2 years since I seen your face”
@Ce I understand that people had their suspicions at the beginning and yes when I joined the Fandom I had too but we're talking about a living child and people should stop with the baby gate thing. This isn't meant towards you but towards the people who believe in it. And yes I've seen people on twitter especially who believe it
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Louis is such an amazing person, he never deserved any of this. I love Louis and it hurts to see him be treated like this. Love you Lou, your music is amazing, and your just an amazing person in general. Nobody deserves this, especially Louis. ❤
Yes Julia I think now they are saying the same thing about Zayn and Gigis baby girl! Can you imagine what the guys must think about these people who call themselves fans? They're probably thinking "gee imagine if they hated us" A true fan and a true Directioner will love them and stick by them no matter what they do or whomever they decide to share their lives with! I'm with them all the way 💙💚❤️❤️❤️
@@louisrejectedmilkshake2104 It's good to know that there are some real fans At least we know that they still have a half decent fandom left! What happened to TPWK? You have a good night and please stay safe ❤️
Louis was with Eleanor for years, but split after Louis went off the rails a bit and was caught cheating. Louis then had a very short fling with Briana resulting in a baby. As for the Larry stuff, it was heartbreaking to watch at the time how it ruined their friendship and drove them away from social media. Every time a Larry posts their conspiracies it takes me back to his poor mother being attacked by them for denying it. Louis later got back together with Eleanor after his mother's death, whom he is still with.
Yeah. I also keep remembering the hate his mum and little sisters got for denying it. Which is why I have a problem with how the fandom treats the ship. (I am ok with "normal" general shipping, it just never stays that way)
I've hear that when he was caught cheating (kissing this girl in Thailand) he wasn't with Eleanor for few weeks already, but who knows only they know what's the truth
@@monica-mn2cd If you didn’t know this then you probably don’t know that this is the reason why Larry is a problem. His family and girlfriend getting hate is the reason why Louis tweeted Larries are fake fans and that Larry is BS. In 2012. That’s why Larries insists it was management tweeting and not Louis because they can’t deal with Louis being with El. They can’t deal with that because if they acknowledge it was actually Louis tweeting it makes them all having to acknowledge they are actively going against Louis’s wishes to stop and having to realize he thinks they are annoying lunatics. (Words used by Louis to describe Larries.) But their opinions (on his personal life and sexuality) means more to them. They don’t care about Louis. Louis was fine with shipping as long as it was only him affected. When his family and gf got dragged into it then it stopped being funny. That’s when the whole toxic fandom and larries vs antis began. I started as a shipper but when I saw how his family got treated just for defending El against Larries and the very obvious discomfort and annoyance Louis showed made me stop.
It was fans started it after seeing sooo many PDA. The boys did play along with it openly till the whole 'gay' thingy divided fans. Am sure a lot of folks never realized that early on 2012, I think, a 1d concert in london was picketed by pissed off parents cos it alleged that the whole band was gay and banging each other. That was right smack during the glorious Larry phenomenal. Parents were shouting that the band were corrupting their kids to turn gay and they should be banned. So, yeah, management had to pour cold water over the Larry PDA fast. The video is on RU-vid.
I love how the whole video is super emotional and sad and then there's the end... Like, his life is horrible, horrible, horrible, and yeah, there was this band... Sounds like a story a grandfather would tell his grandchildren.
That video just show how strong he is, an inspiration really! Ok, now to cheer you up react to Louis going undercover on the internet and him vs fan trivia :)
4:30 you are so nice and thank for saying these Jeffrey. I've been feeling bad for a while and your talking clicked something in me (i don't know if these are the right words but i hope you understand) love you
The fake baby thing is so disgusting and disrespectful they didn’t use the clip since I think it’s a old video but he actually received a death threat phone call of a girl wishing his son death after he said he wouldn’t follow her back on Twitter and I completely agree with u I think people should stop calling Louis and Harry liars they are normal people that just want to be friends at least we know they talk behind cameras since Liam said they all except Zayn have a group chat together and FaceTime all the time
I think Zayn and Louis did put it all behind cuz Louis mentioned him in the tenth anniversary tweet and followed him and interacts with his posts. He liked the baby news and i hope that he must've congratulated him in private
Thank you for the part you said about “Larry” and the fact that some fans choose to make up lies about the boys. I agree with you completely! If you’re a fan then you should respect each of the boys and their privacy. It’s so sad that fan speculation and rumors are what has caused a lot of these problems between the boys and their lives.
As a Larry, I believe it's not rumours about them! I'm not saying every single thing they do is about their relationship, and I don't agree when people are disrespectful towards them. But there's a video of Harry himself saying "my first real crush was, Louis Tomlinson". Louis sings himself "come so far from Princess Park" which is where Harry and Louis lived together. Now I'm not saying go look into every private thing, but these both are definately out there for everyone to see! Closeting is very real unfortunately, and there is even a video of a close associate with their management saying he would make up a fake relationship to cover up someone being gay. I'm not saying dig into all their private lives by any means, or even what they do publically, but Larry either once was, or is real!
@@christaneil131 I have actually looked into a lot of this stuff which is why i don’t believe in it at all. if they came out and said “yes we’re gay” then cool i support but they never once have said that. When Harry said Louis was his first crush, they were soooo young and it was obviously a joke 🤣😭 the Larries pushed it way too far after he said that which made them stop joking like that bc thats awkward. Even if it was true, you Larries are exposing them when they obviously don’t wanna be exposed
Briana and Freddie live in California. Louis has been with Eleanor in England for the (majority of the) pandemic. Louis also had some visits with his sisters (England) when the pandemic calmed down a bit. That's what I saw via IG. I'm happy he hasn't had to do solo lockdown this whole time. He's been with Eleanor and their 2 dogs, Bruce and Cliff 😊
i'm neutral on babygate, but she did not summarize well. read a babygate masterpost if you actually wanna know about the theory. Again, totally neutral on it, I don't know if Freddie is his son or not, but seriously, her summarization was not adequate.
Do you not trust them? Do you think they’re lying? Yeah pretty much, I mean they said 18 months and that somehow turned into almost 6 years now so of course we have trust issues haha 😂
Dude, they knew it was the end, they just didn’t want to upset their younger fans who might not understand that once the boys become men the boy band generally doesn’t continue. Plus, they were exhausted. I’m sure they’ll do like a 20 year reunion or something for fun.
its just 2015 was a hard year on louis too. start of the year he broke up with eleanor and then zayn left the band and something happened there, and zayn at the time was working with naughty boy (bad times) and like louis and nb started a twitter fight and then zayn jumped in it and said "do you remember when you had a life and stopped making bitchy comments about mine" (boy that broke my heart) and i think 2015 was the same year he discovered about his mother cancer and like i remember him going out all the time that summer, always being drunk and like not louis anymore??? and then the shit he got for making brianna pregnant just for a one night stand like that was hard to watch and then his mum and his sister.... boy those were dark times
I'd like to say something about the Larry part. So, I state that I take my responsibilities and I want to specify that this is only my thought. I'm aware that some will not share my thoughts, but I will try to be clear. I specify right away that I believe Harry and Louis are still together. This thing may or may not be shareable, like everything else. What is disgusting and disrespectful is believing that Louis' son isn't real or some other horrible thing. I don't want to go into detail because I think they're disgusting things and I feel nauseous just thinking about them. Anyway, in my opinion the main problem with Larry Stylenson is the extremist people. There're who think they have only been together before and those who think they're still together now, but what people need to understand is that it is not up to us to decree this. But what bothers me most is that the people who believe these horrible theories make all the people who believe in Larries look like psychopaths and out of their minds. We are not all like that! It's not that if there are people with absurd beliefs, then we all believe in them. Many of us still believe in Larry, but we have respect for Harry and Louis. As it should be normal to do. I know that many people find it hard to believe in their relationship, even I didn't believe it in the beginning. Then I saw the videos with my own eyes (I don't mean the video edits) and realized that maybe there might be something between them. All those missed kisses, the hugs, the looks and the songs they dedicate themselves. I don't want to convince anyone because I don't think it's necessary or important. I don't mind explaining why we believe in their relationship, if anyone wants to inquire, there are hundreds of videos and evidence everywhere. I don't even dare to imagine how much Louis suffered from all those people who said horrible things about Freddie, his girlfriend and his family. But because we believe in this relationship, the fact that Louis has suffered so much during his life makes us feel even worse. If Louis really couldn't even be with Harry, it would be terrible because it would be another thing that would hurt him and he just doesn't deserve it. This is the point. But if Louis and Harry are happy with their girlfriends or anyone else, so are we. We don't necessarily want them to be together. That's who the real Larry are, the ones who are happy for them always. That said, everyone has their own ideas, as long as respect is shown for both. TPWK🧡
From his biological father louis has a sister, and then he has 4 other younger sister, two of them are twins from his step dad mark tomlinson which where he took the last name, and then their parents got divorced. And his mother marry a guy and had the twins (ernest and doris, ernest is a boy)
FYI here is Louis dating history (more or less) since you were confused about Eleanor, so around 2011 he dated Eleanor > Broke up around 2015 > Hooked up/dated Brianna > Brianna pregnant with Freddie (they split) > He dated Danielle Campbell > they broke up > he got back with Eleanor in 2017
What bothers me is the fact that Louis drinks and smokes so often when cancer runs on both sides of his family. I just want the man to be safe... also I feel like every other relationship within the band is fine, it’s just Harry, Louis and Niall’s relationship with Zayn. But a thing I love a him is the fact that he talks about all of them so proudly, even though he’s mad at Zayn.
Ppl holding signs for Zayn saying "die terrorist", calling Harry a "womanizer", saying Louis's son is fake & calling him on his phone saying they wish his son dies, saying Niall doesn't deserve to be in 1D & calling Liam a homophobic, and they wondering when they'll comeback together😐😐. You're saying these things & thinking "it's just words" but also ruining ppl's lives.
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What a sad thing...just think of all the years wasted for something that's all in their minds. And just think he could have been Louis Austin. Glad he changed it lol.
Honestly it's not 100% there fault that they never rly got together to talk or hangout bc there all pretty busy and with covid it's hard. And I'm not 100% sure if louis and Zayn are cool I'm sure they are but Ik that niall and Liam both congratulated him on the baby.
Thing that bothers me the most about Larry stuff is all this conspiracies that fans made, they think that they're are doing something idk good? Supportive? But in reality it's completely opposite... What hurts me the most is a thing that Harry and Louis became friends since day one ( they both had their auditions on a same day), well they become best friends, because their relationship was so strong, they felt confident together, were making jokes, lived together and all that some people took it too far off what that really was. I think at the beginning all of them were taking larry stylinson as a joke but with time when Louis started dating Eleanor and it didn't stop and she was getting a lot of hate they just stopped making public interactions and that's how it went. Boys many times said that rumours killed the vibe between them that they've had, and now after all this years you can easily see that they feel uncomfortable
9:15 yeah I don’t get that either! I mean, I love Louis so much and I’m NOT a larrie. He said it’s not true- so I believe him, simple as that. And I don’t care about all the ‘Proofs’. Especially, when he was asked about it or was talking about it you can tell how much it bothers him. So if you really really like him, stop shipping and talking about something that he said endless times that it’s not true and has affected his friendship with Harry and also his relationship with his girlfriend.
I couldn't have agreed with you more. How can so many people call themselves fans but not believe them on certain stuff. (Besides the HIATUS because who know they could have lied about that 😂) Like the other day when babygaters where on tiktok I got into an argument with one of them. She literally said if you believe Freddie is Louis son you're dumb. But her next tiktok was a video calling Louis her baby. Hypothetically speaking even if Freddie wasn't Louis's biological son, he still cares & treates him like one so why say that. Its like some people in this fandom likes to dissect every aspect of their lives and its totally wrong. Just like the Larry conspiracy. Just say Louis & Harry are being closeted my management. There is nothing a FAN could do. They act like by posting content about larry, there gonna randomly come out one day and live happily ever after together. Especially when some of those people constantly talking about larry are like 13 year olds. Louis and Harry are 29 & 26 year old MEN. They can handle stuff on there own without us fans trying to force/push something out of them that no one knows the absolute truth about unless you have known them personally.
Not even a fan of 1d really but I hate that so many fans just kept doing the whole Larry is real. I remember when Freddie was born He posted a pic & fans were like it's fake the tattoos aren't his then they started saying Freddie was photoshopped & then said the baby was Tom Fletcher from uk band McFly that his kid was the baby in the picture like don't involve others & their kids. It obviously ruined the friendship.
I'm not looking to start anything here but even if Louis and Eleanor get married one day, there will STILL be those people who believe it is all a publicity stunt/forced by management or whatever. It bothers me how they just continue to depict him as a liar. They literally don't trust his words. I wish they'd just let him be
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