REACTION TO ARIELLE SCARCELLA'S "I'M TRANSPHOBIC BECAUSE I LIKE BOOBS AND VAGINA" VIDEO [CC] 

@@CyberVelvet420 the point still stands. Sexual consent used to be tantamount to leftist ideology and now you all are shaming women into sleeping with people they don't want to.

@@CyberVelvet420 the question is, do you? Because it doesn't seem like you or chase have a clue and you believe that calling people bigots when someone says "no" sexually isn't a way to subvert that person's right to unequivocally sexually reject someone for any reason. Someone's preferences excludes people who do not meet those characteristics and it doesn't make them bigots. Telling someone "you can't close your mind to..." when it comes to their rejection of someone sexually is creepy af.

@@CyberVelvet420 oh puhlease. It is never the problem of the person rejecting as they have every right to do so. The fact that you're telling me it is the problem of the person making a choice to say no to romantic or sexual interactions with a person says it all. My so called assumptions aren't so baseless, so it seems. If it is the problem of the rejector, why aren't they the ones complaining about their rejection? Post or pre op is irrelevant. You're telling me that there's no difference between surgically constructed genitals and genitals one was born with? You really are going with that that no one would be the wiser in telling the difference? But it doesn't matter if they can or cannot. That is a valid reason to reject someone sexually. Period. Full stop. Someone could want a partner with whom they can produce biological children. Someone may want a partner who has every primary and secondary sex characteristic of the biological sex they are oriented to, even some trans people. Why don't you understand that? Most people who identify as trans don't even get srs, so why are you wasting your time discussing a tiny subset of a small minority of people? Arielles video is clearly about being labeled transphobic for not liking male genitalia, regardless of who it is attached to.

@@CyberVelvet420 no, people complain about being called bigots for not being sexually attracted to certain genitals. They're not complaining about rejecting people who they're not attracted to. That makes absolutely no sense. No one is talking for you, but stop saying things and then backtracking. The diffence may be negligible TO YOU, but you can't speak for people who encounter post op trans genitals because I haven't seen a FTM penis yet that looked cis to me. But even so, finding out that it wasn't as it appeared is reason enough to say no to further sexual contact. You agree that its a valid reason to reject someone but then you later say that if you reject trans women as rule, there's a problem with you. Make up your mind. Here you go hijacking the physical birth defect that is intersex to try and invalidate a basis tenant of biological science. Intersex is not TRANS or anything like it. People born intersex have primary sex characteristics that are both Male and female. Not a new sex or neither sex but of BOTH (binary) sexes. That is not transgenderism. I love how all of these non scientists try to use that to usurp a basic concept of reproductive biology. Sorry, but male and female are the basis of the science of sexual reproduction, and people with an abnormality dont negate that That would be like you saying that a concept of normal hemoglobin has no basis in science because there are people born with sickle cell disease. Just like climate change and evolution deniers, you want to toss out the science that doesn't mesh with your agenda. Do you see why you get comparisons to right wing homophobes? I did not go on about a tiny subset of a small minority. My first comment and one that followed made no mention of trans people, post or pre op, or genitals. It was you who did that, not me. You either have a short memory span or you read your own issues into my words. STOP SPEAKING FOR ME. Again, you made about surgical status. And increase in 19% means what? Still rare, and with the increase in trans identifications, it probably amounts to an even small percentage than before. But those surveys talk about intent and medical transition, which doesn't necessarily include genital surgery. Medical transition can be hormones and/or just top surgery. Not liking penis isn't a prefences, it is a component of sexual orientation. Calling it a preferences denegrates sexual orientation as mutable and not a hard wired part of a persons sexuality. A preference is something like race, i.e. i prefer blk men but have and will date other races. Race has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, but my preferences. What you call trans women or consider them is irrelevant to someones sexual choices. She can call herself a lesbian all day, but that doesn't mean lesbians have to view her as a sexual option...for any reason. This is coming across as an entitlement. As if every person is attracted to every person of the reproductive sex they're attracted to and woke up to exclude trans people. I didn't even know what a trans person was when I was figuring out thay I liked men. A male lion had a mane because, like humans, lions are sexually dimorphic, meaning there are overt sex differences between male and female. You gonna tell that male lion that he's just a lioness in a wig? No! And that mane has been proven to be sex linked because neutered male lions lose their manes I don't care if you consider my arguments in bad faith. I'm used to people in your position finding reasons to run from arguments you have to response to. It won't hurt my feelings.

@@CyberVelvet420 spare friend spare friend you say I change my argument, but I have no once changed my arguement, it is you who constantly contradicts yourself when you have no legitimate answer. Show me a single example of what you're talking about. There are none. I don't care what you call trans men and trans women. They are trans men and trans women and a lesbian who is attracted to women does not have to consider a trans woman a lesbian because we define sexual orientation by reproductive sex, not gender identity. You continuously contradict yourself and think projecting it on me. You say that sexual orientation is hardwired/genetic, but then go on to say that it is fluid. Which is it? You sound like conversion therapy proponents because you, like them, believe that sexual orientation can change. You're arguing that societal factors influence sexual orientation. Like bible thumpers believe that homosexuality is caused by absenter fathers, child sexual abuse, rebellion or any other traumas a person experiences early in life. That is how you sound like right wing homophobes. To serve your agenda, trans dating acceptance, you're advocating for changeable sexual orientation. You even go so far to quote one of the most religious and homophobic right wingers, Ben Shapiro, telling me facts dont care about my feelings, when you don't even know what a fact is. Claiming biological sex not being binary, claiming that sexual orientation is fluid are because sexual rejection hurts your feelings. I never put forth my feelings as a basis of an argument, so you didn't even use the quote in the proper context. Which leads me to believe that you don't do any thinking of your own, but just parrot people who validate your feelings. There you go qualifying consent, which is why people like you are called rapey. There is no context where it isn't consent. Im just going to tell you that this kind of shaming is why there is so much resistance to embracing the trans community. I don't care if you call it transphobic or not. I'm not going to pretend not to see what my eyes see with a FTM surgically constructed penis. So it's now trans phobic to call a thing what it is? Yea, you all are nuts. Albeist? So trans people are disabled now? A man who has lost his penis is still a man because he is an adult human male, his penis is not the sole factor is determining his reproductive sex. You trans advocates want to eliminate binary biological sex because it doesn't suit your ideology because a trans man who keeps his uterus to have biological children is still biologically FEMALE. No male has ever given birth. You can't handle logic challenges to your claims. You never pointed out where I came in going on about trans people. All you do is ignore when you're backed into a corner, contradict yourself even further, and thinking you're going to convice people that they're bigoted for not dating trans people. The reason why same sex marriage became accepted is because we had logical reasons that even religious conservatives agreed were constitutionally sound and gay marriage does not encroach on anyone else's personal boundaries. Trans advocates will have to change how they approach mainstream people if they ever want to gain acceptance. Good luck because with people like you being trans voices. You'll need it.

THIS!

To MOST people, it is important, whether heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual.

I have to agree with this

@@notthefather3919 I agree. It's a hundred percent important to me. If I date someone who looks like a man and then we go to have sex and he had a vagina , I'm gonna be pissed and break of all contact . It's ignorant to not tell someone from day one about being trans .

@@vanessaarnell absolutely! These trans advocates who think they can shame people into dating them don't realize how creepy they come off.

Aiden Loser You can’t control sexual attraction dude. Just like you can’t control whether you are born with a dick or vagina.

@@aidenloser8320 uhh no. It's rapey when you tell her that she should sleep with someone with a penis when that isn't what she's attracted to. No one likes sexual rejection, but the person rejecting isn't a bigot for what they can't control either.

@James Cory Maybe I should start saying that to all the guys who reject me. "Wow, how dare you reject me for being taller than you and like 10 kgs overweight, why don't you start being a better human being, control yourself and sleep with me?"

And later down the video you are basically shaming people for who they are physically attracted to/not attracted to. Look if you are bi/pan, awesome. If looks and physical characteristics are completely unimportant to you, fantastic. But not everyone is built like that. Most people aren't, in fact. The LGBT community spent years trying to make the public understand that our orientation or gender is not a choice, it is innate. How is it fair to then turn around and shame someone for not being attracted to certain physical characteristics (especially genitals, which is just an automatic preference for most people and a body part that you will have to interact with a lot of you are going to be intimate with someone.) Sexual preference and attraction is not a choice, period. And btw not dating a trans person doesn't mean you "close yourself off" from trans people completely and forever. There are more relationships that you can have with people other than romantic/sexual

Exactly. It's gotten to the point now where pansexuals think they are superior because 'they don't limit themselves'. It's getting really homophobic now.

THANK YOU

Thank you so much for posting this you blessing from god(s)!

No, but assuming that I know whether or not I will be attracted to the genitals of an entire demographic in advance and going out of my way to make sure that demographic knows I couldn't possibly be attracted to them is transphobic. Why not take attraction on a case by case basis? Why not decide if the individual woman I'm interested in, at that specific time, with whatever genitals she's working with is attractive to me or not, as a total package? No one could fault me for that. Are genitals allowed to be part of that consideration? Sure. Of course. But trans people are not walking talking sets of genitals that all look alike.

Exactly. How far will this thinking go? Look at Jessica Yaniv's crusade of getting businesses closed for refusing to wax her genital region. Because it's discrimination because the workers only perform these services on female genitalia...

Dude good for you for speaking up. I really want to talk with you if you get this message and are interested! I literally found this video through a string of videos after watching the andrew klavan show LOL! Please if you get this and waant to talk.im not the kind of person who would watch a video like this at all!

@@nalabees it's already gone very far. In many circles. I was labeled a "TERF" simply for saying I wasn't into a trans man, as a gay. About 2 yrs ago. I had no opinions on trans issues yet, besides sympathy for gay people who transition, and fascination with the idea, as a very "feminine" male. Many "woke" straight people around me punished me, and I lost several "friends" - only one I cared about tho. She was lesbian, felt she had to proove her allegiances to the trans community by condemning me with them. I since learned that the "TERF" perspectives are correct - the entire trans movement is based in heterosexist stereotypes to start with. I like some gay people who transition (do not care about other trans people), but they are still functioning off hererosexist stereotypes against their own selves, and other gay people.

Also, I've seen become an expert on gay history (in the US). Each decade has a decadent period, and a period of tyranny regaining control. Most advancements in gay rights have occurred in the decadent periods (late 70s, early 80s, late 90s, late 2000s, early 2010s), and trans movement has grown most in the mirrored periods (late 80s, early 90s, early 2000s, now). They are opposing forces

AlexanderNicolas entitlement. That’s why. Kids today need validation for every little thing. (One of the many reasons I feel that trump won)

You're making an important distinction here that this conversation sorely needs. Not finding someone physically as attractive anymore doesn't equal not loving them anymore. Also for a romantic relationship to flourish a healthy sex life is unfortunately something a lot of people need. Glad to hear things went so well with you two and you're still friends. That's really special :)

It's hard for me to do when it was so painful for me, but I had to keep reminding myself that this was happening to him too. It's not like he's done something to me, or I've done something to him. It just happened, and neither of us blame the other. And now I'm just really glad we were together as long as we were, because when it was good, it was really good.

I can imagine. I actually broke up with someone I'd been with for over a decade just a short while before coming out as trans. It ended for other reasons but I do often wonder how things would have been if we'd still been together and in love. I'm thinking it would have ended because as you said it's a big deal for the partner too when someone transitions, it's happening to them too. I dodged that one but anyway, that's a good way to look at it it, place no blame and focus on the good times.

Morgan West but he's straight and you're a dude so it makes sense that he wouldn't be interested anymore because he now sees you as male. That's entirely irrelevant in this. Let's say that you were in a relationship for a while with a dude and everything is great and he's gay but he doesn't know your trans. Then when he finds out he's like no I'm not into that. Because of your genitals that guy isn't seeing you as a man.

Sage Rothman l don't disagree. I only shares my story because in part of the video, Chase used an example of two people in a relationship being in love, and one person ending the relationship just because their partner comes out as trans and/or transitions. While it sucks that someone could stop loving you just because your appearance changes, I don't think it makes him homophobic or transphobic at all.

Sexual as in who you're attracted sexually. LOL That's why there's also romantic attraction if both differ. But yeah, I don't disagree with Ariella.

Sexual orientation and genital preferences aren't the same thing.

And to add onto that: according to them, sexuality isn't a choice, unless you're straight, in which you definitely had a choice and you chose the "bigoted" one. Good God, these people are embarassments.

Even as a bi person I have certain preferences

I'm also bi and even I have my preferences. I kinda prefer girls but I still like both equally if that makes sense.

I'm bisexual, and I prefer a person whose gender identity and biological sex correlate. Yet this bastard thinks that is transphobic.

RDB LMAO

This video is very sexist. Chase is being a misogynist

Sexuality and genital preferences aren't the same thing.

@@VictorMatthieu oh god I forgot I wrote this comment

What's transphobic is assuming that trans people would want to force anyone into sex with them.

Kevin Fox Did she do that though? Although those accusing someone of being transphobic for genital preferences are kind of doing just that, using guilt so that the only way to prove you're not transphobic is to sleep with someone you don't want to sleep with. That being said, the vast majority of transgender people don't have that attitude.

@@kevinfox298 BECAUSE THEY DO! Fucking hell wake up dipshit.

I want to like your comment but it’s at 69

@@lasseplatburk cis people think that trans people are going to force themselves on to them which isn't the came, the only people making those assumptions are cis people.

Exactly. I like Chase a lot but this is ridiculous. I feel like he's looking for a reason to get upset about something.

Sebastian This is EXACTLY what I was gonna say!

yeah... and the example he gave.. i mean, just bc he'd have a mutual romantic attraction with somebody, it doesn't mean that this person would be sexually attracted to him, based on his genitalia. it's unfortunate, but that's the way it is

Sebastian Finally someone said it 👏 honestly who gives a sh*t ppl should have the right to like wat they like n not be ridiculed for doing so. and if he doesnt agree with her why watch the videos, just looking to start a bit of drama in my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sebastian totally! I but i think it's not just about the genitals. It's about smell, skin and everything that changes a lot once you take hormones

Oliver LR im a transguy and i agree. Its not their fault they arent attracted to whats between my legs, it doesnt mean that theyve associated genitals to gender, some people are attracted to certain genitals.

EXACTLY!!!

FTM here as well, I agree. It would hurt but so would any rejection, and unless they're a dick about it it's no problem. As part of a relationship I would want to either be penetrated by a man, or be able to vaginally penetrate a woman so being with a man with a vagina, a woman with a penis, a man who doesn't want to penetrate, or a woman who only wants anal/oral/none..is just not something I want.

Oliver LR thanks for sharing your perspective

Oliver LR FTM here and I agree 💯

Aryanna somethingIdk I don't think he blames Arielle for not liking dick, but for saying that she would never date a trans woman. She's assuming that every trans women have a dick, plus she's saying "I'm a lesbian so I won't date trans women because they have dick" but she's kinda forgetting that trans women are still women ^^' liking a trans woman won't make her less lesbian or whatever In a way I understand Arielle's point because she doesn't like dick and it's fine but involving trans women by saying out loud "I would never date a trans woman because D I C K" is unecessary. Saying "I wouldn't date a person who have a dick" and "I wouldn't date a trans woman" is not the same thing. The first one is okay, the second one is transphobic because that means she assumes all trans women have dicks and it looks like she's saying "I won't date you only because you are a trans woman", even if that's not what she means.

Aryanna somethingIdk and yes I'm very late lmao XDD

Lesbian means female homosexual. Homosexuality means sexual attraction towards people of the same SEX, not GENDER. If someone tells me the opposite, it's erasing my identity.

Ploshun She specifically said she could be attracted to a trans woman on hormones, didn’t you watch the video??? She never said she thinks all trans women have penises, she only said it’s wrong when people say females attracted to females have a “genital fetish”

There is only 2 gender, anything beyond that is just imaginary things and dont have scientific proof, facts dont care about your feelings, thank you

Attraction not a choice, I know you know this - the world could benefit greatly from ignoring vacuous morons with stupid hair colours, who insist on trying to dictate everybody else's life.

I'm with you here.

ThatOneKid _ i'm a trans man too, and i think the same. My girlfriend and I are very happy together, and she's completely fine knowing that i'm pre op and don't got a dicky willy. If she wanted a dicky willy and left me for that, then i would understand. However, when sex isn't part of the relationship (''tis not for me and her) and nothing more than a kissy kiss happens, I would consider it a bit transphobic if they left me because i didn't have a dicky willbert. Idk. i'm young, i don't know.

Also, you may be pansexual or whatever which is cool, but Arielle is a lesbian!

I'm a Lesbian and I disagree with Arielle. Identity politics aside, why do you agree with her? why do you disagree with Chase? Arielle's video is loaded with Transphobic Rhetoric.. while her underpinning sentiment.. I like Vaginas, therefore I wouldn't date anyone with a Penis.. is perfectly valid.. it's the tone of her Argument, and the rest of the Transphobic she says to defend herself.. that we're having issues with.

Vynjira the tone of her argument is probably because she's sick and tired of the hate she gets from people like Chase?? I'd be pretty upset too if other RU-vidrs started to get thousands to hate me. Chase is pan and that's cool, don't expect other people to be.

+Vynjira What a load of shit lmao.

I'm a bisexual male and I 100% agree with Arielle. What people are attracted to is not up for judgement. I'm mostly attracted to feminine women and regular men (I don't find bodybuilders attractive at all). I am also super attracted to FTM people (except of Chase - once he opens his mouth and starts talking, I automatically feel some kind of repulsion) and I'm not at all attracted to MTF people. At the same time there are people who won't find me attractive at all and I'd never think to call them some kind of phobic. Chase's attitude seems like I'm entailed to sex with you and if you don't want to I'm gonna shame you by calling you transphobic, prejudiced etc. II find it particularly disgusting.

I feel the same, this was disappointing to hear from him. I like Chase, but I really don't agree with him on this.

Same here, I love Chases Channels, I watch this one and "Your So Brave" and I like most of them, but this one really disappointed me. This is the first one of his videos that I have watched that I wont be hitting the like on, because I'm so disappointed in some of the things he said.

Terri Kemp I agree. I love Chase, but I strongly disagree with this. And actually I could swear he said exactly the opposite in another video or podcast. I have no idea what history he has with this girl, maybe there is something behind it, but if he needed to discredit her he shouldn't make a video calling transphobic to everyone that is not pansexual. Love and sexual attraction are not the same thing. No one should be shamed for their sexual preferences.

I feel like he's not sating she's transphobic because she has preferences, but rather because she wouldn't even consider being with someone she otherwise fully clicks with and loves solely because they have or do not have an organ - one they don't necessarily even want to use. It falls into the same category for me (and it seems for him) as ditching someone you click with and really like when you find out they have a medical condition.

Xanthelei and what is the problem with that? Not everyone likes every gender and sex organs, end of story. Just like many people would have their own reasons for ending any kind of relationship. Just dont judge because you dont know them, or the circunstances.

Some people are both, sure. But not everyone is. Some people are attracted to people first because of their personality. Some are first attracted because of how they look. Sexuality has nothing to do with that. A person could be straight or gay and feel the same as what he just said. He never said that if you weren't pan you were transpbobic. You did.

Dating a trans person doesn't make you pansexual. Being pansexual doesn't mean "oh I date men, women and the trans too uwu woke", it just means being attracted to all genders (which includes nb people here).

Mouna Kadmiri that's totally right. There are no sexualities that exclude trans people. Transpbobic people, regardless of sexuality, are the only ones that exclude trans people.

Exactly. If I can't have a "preference" for specific sex characteristics because it's "transphobic" then we're being asked to be functionally pansexual. Because we would have to base our sexual attraction on the nebulous and internal concept of gender identity and not on the physical body. I can't believe you dweebs in the comments are having trouble understanding that. You're being needlessly obtuse.

Ikr Prefences are presences

Same. *im trans and attracted to boobs and vagina, I wouldn't mind dating a trans woman. But i don't feel horny or whatever looking a penises (boys or girls), so idk how that would work. But also its not all about sex and maybe I would fall in love with a trans girl and be like im attracted to your personality so you turn me on. And that's who I am making love to. *If that makes sence?*

she literally said that a penis is a male body part.

Holden Joseph It is

Holden Joseph you’re stupid if you think penis is a part of female body

@@alyx8566 A penis is a male body part, yes.

WHOOP there it is

i mean a trans person would most likely not date a transphobe lmao

eliott kinger then why are y'all so angry about it then??

more like why does she choose to publicly post her transphobic dangerous opinion

+jaycelegends because, and here's a wild concept, she's still being transphobic

Yes, Ash Crager you made perfect sense and I agree. I don't know that woman and don't know if she has said transphobic things in the past or not. But if someone recognizes Trans Men as Men, and Trans Women as Women, than they aren't transphobic, just because they want an intimate relationship with someone that has a particular genital. It also doesn't make them transphobic if they are strait and don't want to date a trans person of the same sex, or the person is gay and they don't want to date a trans person of the same sex, even if they have the genitals that the person would want to have sex with. Most people have a gender preference, and a genital preference, and they want anyone they are going to have an intimate relationship to have both their gender preference and their genital preference. That isn't transphobic at all. If they refused to accept a trans man as a man, and they refused to accept a trans woman as a woman, that would be transphobic. Or if they were mean to someone because they were trans or refused to associate with them or be friends with them etc, that would be transphobic. But not wanting to date someone because they identify as a gender the person isn't interested in, or the person has genitals the person isn't interested in, that is preference, not prejudice. It would be nice if everyone was pan, or gender fluid, with fluid preferences etc, but that isn't the case for most people, no matter if they are cis, trans, gay or strait. Bi and Pan people are more fluid in most cases, but not people who identify as gay or strait. And also peoples fluidity with sexuality and preferences etc can also change over time. I am much more fluid than I use to be.

Ash Crager i totally agree with you! And before seeing the comments i felt aweful cause i don't think i could have sex with a pre op trans woman. I felt like a terrible person.... i think we could also compared all this to a cis situation ( cistuation 😂 ) i'm a lesbian and i could tell a straight woman i really like her but if she's into men, i won't say sh'e homophobic! Do you guys think this makes sense too? Don't mean to be offensive to anyone either! I actually love his videos!

Ash Crager I totally agree, sometimes genitals are for some and not for others, Im a pan person but with a lower attraction to women aligned people then male aligned people and it's even bigger when it comes to sex, i might be on the ace spec idk yet so my sexual attraction is low and personal I find vaginas unappealing and not very arousing (but I can make acceptions so it's not 100%) while I find penises much more arousing and more appealing to me sexually, I would date a cis girl or a trans guy (pre op) if I am attracted to them but sex may be limited, and I would date a cis guy or a trans girl and sex may also be limited but most probably less

Jake Gasson, your English was fine, and you made perfect sense. I agree with you, if someone likes someone enough to want to have a relationship with them, but there is some sort of issue they have, like not being aroused by the type of genitals the person has. They should discuss it and try to see if they can find a way to work around the issue. If it is one that they can work around. Like in your case. Some times it can be worked out and some times it can't. Some people will be to uncomfortable to even try, and if they are, then that should be respected too. The other person shouldn't try to guilt the person into trying to have sex with them, if they feel to uncomfortable with the idea though. It isn't just Trans people who are rejected because of their genitalia though. Gay/Lesbians are rejected by strait people because of their genitalia all of the time. And also people are rejected by others because they have genitalia or breast that the other person thinks are to small, or to large, or because they aren't circumcised, or they are circumcised etc., as well as being rejected for all sorts of other things having to do with their body or their appearance etc.. Anyone can be rejected by someone else because there is something the other person doesn't like about their body, or appearance, no matter if they are trans, cis, gay, strait, bi, pan etc. I'm glad it worked out for you and your girlfriend, and hopefully more people will be willing to try to have a relationship with someone even if at first they don't feel comfortable about the other persons genitalia, or anything else about the other person.

Thank you!! I'm a straight cis woman. I'm sexually aroused by penis. A vagina is not going to do it for me. Plastic or toys is not enough for me. I can't describe the feeling but having a real penis inside me is a thousand times different than a plastic one. As a trans man you are a man. And I'll never say otherwise. I'll support your rights as a man. But if you happen to still have a vagina then I don't want to have sex with you. Not because you aren't a man (you still are) but because I can't be sexually arouse by a vagina. And I don't want to touch or lick a vagina. And I don't understand why people are getting offended by that.

i know this is 6 months old but its less the fact that people have these preferences and more the fact they go out of their way to say things about how they wouldnt want to date a trans person

Preferences are valid and no one should be forced to have sex with people they don't want to have sex with, he didn't say that wasn't true. He was saying the logic she personally used to justify it had transphobic undertones. He even said penis and vulva repulsion are real and valid things but he was not feeling that that was what she was referring to

Jonathan Crane but it’s not that. he’s responding to a specific video that was created bc arielle was constantly being accused of being transphobic for her preferences. she made a video defending herself. chase is making up all these hypothetical situations and putting words in her mouth, and is projecting his own shitty dating experiences onto her.

yeah it’s kind of rapey to imply someone is morally obligated to fuck you and now I’m sad bc I thought chase was a good enough person to know that. It’s ok not to like dicks! and you don’t need to be a rape victim or have a phobia for that feeling to be valid. obligatory: and this is coming from a trans man.

My friends agree completely with Chase. They're trans men btw.

Trans women post-op do not have boobs and a vagina, tho. They have synthetic breast implants and a hole.

brittreidandkato the artifical vagina doesn't function like an actual vagina does though. It's not self cleaning, self lubricating and needs to be dilated frequently since it's essentially an open wound. It also smells like shit sometimes because they use part of the colon to form the artifical vagina. It's okay to not be attracted to that. Besides, lesbians are attracted to the vulva, clit and vagina. It's not just the "hole".

5DC stuff that is the most disgusting way to describe female genitals and anatomy. Trans women do not have breasts and vagina. They have implants and an inverted penis to attempt to look like boobs and vagina but they aren't actually boobs and vagina and they don't function like them. If people aren't attracted to that "post op" then that's fine.

Thanks !! 👏 I feel like sometimes LGBTQIA+ community is judging people who aren't pansexual, I even kinda feel guilty because I'm not, it's so sad :( Sorry Chase, disappointed too :(

Same. I feel guilt for my sexuality a lot. Especially from either bisexual/pansexuals, or other people who simply don't have or know what it's like to have a preference for genitalia. People shouldn't make others feel bad for things they can't change. As an ally I'd never do that to others, so I don't expect it done to me.

I'm Pansexual and realize not everyone can be Pansexual. You like who you like. I am mostly attracted to white people and we shouldn't feel bad about these preferences.

"Not everyone is pansexual and that's okay." I appreciate that so much.

86thislove why are you mostly attracted to white people? (genuinely curious, not trying to start anything)

What if somebody told you they weren't interested the moment you told them you were trans, without any more information than that (ie what genitals you have)?

Katie Katie that's a bit different, yeah. It really depends on context and the tone of the rejection. I've been politely told people weren't interested because they just weren't comfortable, but I've also been rudely told so.

Alex Marie Same 👍

Her words are the same Rhetoric we here from Truscum and TERFs, and implies that Trans Women who disagree with here aren't actually Women because they still have their Penis.. She also outright says at the top of the video the "Penis is a Male Body Part".. and the rest of her statement talks about Trans Men and "Other Genders" which she already got into shit for when she said there are only 2 Genders.. Her video is drenched in Transphobic statements and Rhetoric, it's no one's fault for reading that when she sets that tone. The rest of what you said seems to attack a position that no one seems to actually have. Chase even says in this video that your preferences and phobias are not the problem. I love how people give the benefit and full context to Arielle while taking Chase out of context as he tries to explain that his problem isn't what she keeps saying it is.

Vynjira I'm sorry but a penis IS a male organ.

Except that it's not since it's not unique to Male or Female individuals.. it's a single Sex Characteristic that is commonly associated with people who identify as Men. (Chase even points out that she is gendering genitals). For example, a person with a Penis could in fact have XX Chromosomes, and a Female Brain Sex, and Female endocrine system and have a Womb and Ovaries. Scientists have concluded that there are multiple sex factors, and none of them necessarily correlate to what we think of traditionally as Male or Female. The Phrase "Some Women have Penises" and "Some Men have Vaginas" stems from the fact that the Body Part itself is not Male or Female inherently. There is an article in the Scientific Journal Nature on this very issue. I'm sorry but the SCIENCE doesn't support the traditional social views of Male and Female.

Vynjira A few exceptions do not disprove the rule. The male sex is one that can produce sperm the female sex is one that produces eggs. This is not that hard. If you don't produce either of those (no human produces both) you do not have a sex.

+Joseph White "A few exceptions do not disprove the rule." Biologists, Neurologists, Endocrinologists, Geneticists, Immunologists, Psychiatrists all disagree with you. This argument is uniquely made by Anti-Science Arm-Chair Experts/Transphobes that haven't ever looked at the Science. As I just stated, there is an Article Published in the Scientific Journal (IE: Peer Reviewed) Nature.. which explains that, RARITY is not a factor that determines what we dismiss. In fact the Red Hair Gene is far more Rare than Intersex Conditions and we don't sit here saying that Red Hair is an exception to the rule.. In fact Trans people are almost as common as the Red Hair trait, and as we learn more and expand to the Non-Binary.. Trans people are more common than Red Hair. "The male sex is one that can produce sperm" Except of course that isn't true it is the most often, but not exclusive to to even people with a Penis.. there are people with Vaginas that produce sperm. "This is not that hard." I agree it's not.. all you have to do is read what the Science actually says.. not assert nonsense you have not done any research on.

thank you, I wanted to comment on that also

Louisyed there is a large group of people, actually probably the majority of all people. That believe that either trans men and women aren’t real men and women or that there is notable distinction between trans people and biological men and women with matching gender. I can’t understand how a random persons words or beliefs could possibly be problematic to anyone, the majority of people think a magic man existed in nothingness for no reason, invented the universe and earth for no reason, the made life for no reason. That’s the most insane shit I’ve ever heard, yet I’ve gotten along with pretty much every one of them I’ve ever met, their words or beliefs about that weren’t problematic. The problem is that instead of arguing and trying to get the truth to people, you simply want to control the narrative, decide what is true, and force all people to only think as you do and agree with whatever you believe. Most don’t want to examine other people’s beliefs or arguments to make their conclusions more sound, they just want people to agree with them, it’s that simple. I promise s random person on the internets beliefs about transgender people will not harm you or anyone, since clearly none of these people hate trans people and aren’t transphobic, which is just a buzzword used to insult people who disagree with you on opinions regarding trans people.

“Trans men and other genders” doesn’t mean men. If you don’t identify as a man, or a woman, you are not automatically “a man”.

Tyke Arielle doesn't believe in nonbinary people :|

will yeah, because arielle is lesbian, I think the slight fear of men is somewhere in there.....

By the way Chase, I do love you and your content! Sucks that you have to experience stuff like that but there will be someone out there for all of us who will accept us in our entirety

If you actually look at the videos Kat Blaque has done about this, you'd know that most trans people treat her with a lot of distance. The only trans RU-vidrs who agree with her do so to get some exposure in her videos and later state regretting doing the videos with her. When she does trans-centric videos with a trans person, they'll be the only trans person in the comment section agreeing with her. Arielle has, in the past, reached out to Chase to ask him to look over her apology scripts and give her corrections - which he does at the cost of his own time and energy - only for her to not use any of his points and not make a proper apology anyway. When she had a trans man week, there was a lot of flack over the fact she wrote the scripts for those videos herself, with very little input from actual trans man (who were very much uncomfortable about the 'Vagina Pride' thing, which she laughed off). She's a heavily divisive figure, and just because you don't see that doesn't mean she isn't being offensive. Plus, you're sounding very condescending telling Chase that his view is invalid because he's 'just not comfortable' with who he is. REALLY not the best thing to say to a trans person.

ARKIRE 👌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@@kevinfox298 "which he does at the cost of his own time and energy.." Oh give me a fucking break with that martyr bullshit! Chase makes MONEY off of his contrived posturing and his lame "RU-vid fame". The sweaty ambition and slavish "collar/networking" he does is VOLUNTARY and his own choice, because he's just another superficial, egotistical ME ME MEEEE! RU-vidr scrounging an to make coin. Nobody is putting a gun to these peoples heads that e-beg for money and flit around, fabricating the appearance of having fantastic lives with the whole shiny, happy people formula for RU-vid "fame". These people aren't rm exactly Oscar level talent FFS! Chase is a cheesy little RU-vidr playing the YT game, nothing more. "Time and energy"...ROFL!!! Yeah, like he's fucking Robert DeNiro level famous and credibility or some CEO of a huge corporation huh? GTFOH with that! Chase could only DREAM of the kind of schedule real working power players have! So taking 15 minutes to have THE OPPORRUNITY to look over Ariellas "script" - (excuse me..BWAHHHH HAHAHA!! The lingo these ridiculously deluded tubers use! Lol Yeah, like they're big movers and shakers in the entertainment industry! Bwahhh hahaha..too funny!) - ISN'T Chase doing her any favor, it's just him sniffing around at an opportunity - being the enormous Opportunist that he is - to grasp at anything that will give HIM more views. The person between them who ACTUALLY lost "time and energy" was Arielle because 1. She didn't have to make such a gesture and 2. The gesture was made out of her SINCERE desire to reach out. Chase wouldn't know the meaning of Sincerity, Respect, and Integrity if they crawled up his ass and chewed their way out of his mouth! He's a trite, glib, View who're and THAT'S IT. All Dollar store style, no substance. Chase admits to using clickbait titles and contrived RU-vid draa "for the views". He doesn't exactly hide his manipulative methods mate. He's no hero, he's no hotshot; he's only one channel owner in a vast sea of people on RU-vid, using their "time and energy" to promote THEMSELVES over everyone else and in any way they can because they're too damn lazy TO WORK. 98% of them don't have what it takes to become people who REALLY live in the "time is money" world. Arielle had enough RESPECT for the debate to give Chance THE OPPORRUNITY to do something that would give him a little more shine. And HE chose to do and that's great. But to then turn around and passive-aggressively insinuate what a great guy he is for doing so? Yeah, again, that's TOTAL horse shit!

Chase in this video is a prime example of transcels and trans entitlement.

the thing is: you can't expect a gay man to have sex with someone of the opposite sex, but a trans man ISN'T of the opposite sex, they just have the opposite genitals. i can't really speak for anyone on this since i'm cis and bi, but i just wanted to say what i understood of it

@fangirl meets world - A trans man is not a woman by sex, they are a woman by gender. There is no way to change your sex, yet. Someday there will be, of that I have no doubt, but currently it is impossible, and this is a fact. It is also a fact that sexuality is related to *sex*, not gender. That's why it's called "sexuality" and not "genderality". The fact that I have to explain this to anyone above the age of five simply astounds me.

i don't agree with you and i really am not interested in argue about this or talk about this right now, so i'm leaving

lol the response of a homophobe caught in a lie. We respect trans people as their intended genders, but pronoun choices don't override our innate same sex attraction.

omfg i really hope you're not talking about me, if you are then you probably don't know how to read what i said up there or didn't bother too: i'm bisexual and i am not a fucking homophobe, i know how's this shit

trans women are women too. if she is a lesbian and doesn't want a women with a penis, fine. but she shouldn't act like that invalidates them as a women OR that all trans women have penises because newsflash - some of them don't.

Terry H. She never invalidated them as women. Just said that she will never be attracted to them.

thats not what chase is saying please please listen to what hes actually trying to get across its fine to have a genital preferance but when you reduce someone down to what they have in their pants and gender them on it thats transphobic

memelord anakie I did listen to what chase was saying. I watched the whole video and even watched multiple parts twice to make sure I didn't miss anything. not wanting to date someone because of their genitals is not "reducing them" and like I said in my previous comment, you cannot control what you are attracted to. if you are, let's say, a gay man and meet a another guy who you end up really liking but then you find out he's trans and change your mind about dating him/having sex, that's completely fine. you shouldn't force yourself to be with someone who has parts that, best case, you're unattracted to or, worst case, are disgusted by because both people will just end up unhappy in that relationship. it's unfair to that person. I agree that reducing someone to their genitals is transphobic but not wanting to be with someone because they are trans is not that

@@animalsisterboy That's literally exactly what transphobic means. YOU CAN HAVE A PREFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO GENITALS. That is not transphobic. What is transphobic is NOT WANTING TO DATE SOMEONE OR REJECTING SOMEONE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TRANS. No trans people force anybody to have sex with them. But seeing a trans man for example as a woman because he hasn't or doesn't want bottom surgery is transphobic. Because you see his genitals as a woman's, simply because the majority of women have vaginas it's invalidating him.

Torrin Ashley i do agree that that is definitely transphobic. my main point is that genital preferences are not transphobic in the slightest but thinking trans people are gross, not their gender, etc for sure is

@@animalsisterboy Dude. Saying you wouldn't date a trans person is problematic in the same way as saying you wouldn't date a muslim/black/asian person. It's okay to not be into someone; it's even okay if you have these thoughts in your head because we've been socialized to think and feel in certain ways. It is when you choose to make declarations of 'trans people, do not apply' publicly, knowing trans people will hear you, and that bigots will gain a talking point, that I'm classifying you as a toxic person. Am I making sense?

@Kojla MC Tumblr is the birthplace of all this gender stuff

I’m guessing they were bought

OwlFanatic I didn't even have to comment thank you for saying that.

sunshineflicker YEEESSSS fantastic idea

I never watch the original videos for this reason exactly

I think it would be for the best if you nerds watch the original video as to check if Chase had cherry picked it.

ShavingCream Producitons the video is really short so that's the whole thing IIRC.

Oh well I feel silly, let me rephrase my earlier comment. " in most cases it is for the best to watch the original content to check for cherry picking."

lowell Robinson Anyone open to a simple straightforward conversation about this term?

Nope. It´s perfect.

hannahwithanx "preferences are discriminatory by nature" fucking yes dude.

"and just how you cant tell a gay man to be with a woman" You picked a really bad example, this makes you sound transphobic. Trans isn't a gender, whereas woman is.

Katie Katie how is it transphobic? i didnt say being trans is a gender, i was giving an example of preference. That's another problem with this whole thing, that people tend to jump to the most extreme based on the smallest details. I agree that I could've worded my example differently, how about this: It's like telling a person of any sexuality to be pansexual/romantic in order to give everyone in the gender spectrum a chance

Megan Chase is a self loathing lesbian hence the reason she thinks she is a man. If you dump on other lesbians you feel better about yourself.

wow way to be transphobic

MaxWoulf A lesbian not wanting to date someone with a penis is not being transphobic.

Hehyougotme oooooof, where the fuck did I say that b

L B Ikr she said she views trans women as women, but she’s just not attracted to penises no matter who they’re attached to!!!

Wolf Maiden what about trans women with vaginas

Warren A They don’t have vaginas,some just have inverted dicks