Reaction to Band of Brothers: Market Garden (Battle of Nuenen) 

Hate to correct you my man. but that "jagdpanzer" is actually a Jagdpanther, because it is a tank destroyer built on the chasie of a German Panther tank.

Everyone knows band of brothers was one the greatest ww2 TV series

Damn...now that is cool. Sending love to the Netherlands, from Texas!

Dude that's cool.

That is so cool!!!

I forgot to add this but editing often ruins a comment so I am adding it here. People often say the British didn't fight in the Pacific and that I am lying. This is not true. My great uncle was part of the "forgotten army" where 50,000 were captured and 12,000 died of starvation and disease, while being forced into slave labour.

@@charliezelenowski2701 no offense but god damn talk about unlucky

@@charliezelenowski2701 Most people forget about the australlians , british and indians who fought in countries like Phillipines, Burma etc.

@@baharchange because its useless lmao

@@thegreenskull4244 bruh what useless?

and the only Jagdpanther present on this battle was the "possible tiger panther" sighed at veghel.

@@leoaraujo8590 but it was nice to see something differnt then a tiger or a p4

is it CGI?

@@AndyThomas_mrblitz no it is just a replica in a small scale filming with some releastic puppets

@@leoaraujo8590 At Veghel (Koevering to be exact) on the 25th it was Jagdpanthers of Schwere Panzerjager-Abteilung 559.

It's what I always do in Sandstorm with firearms in general, not just MGs, position your body a bit further back from the window, you get full cover and more concealment.

@@032_m.alfathcirrus5 It's also what I did on Red Orchestra 2 back in the glory days of the game, it was a blast playing with mates on well positioned mgs, even more reinforced by the fact that I could actually change the mg's barrels.

@@leoaraujo8590 vote bridges

@@madsanta7938 Bridges of Druzhina for the 10th time in a row? hell yeah

@@leoaraujo8590 you know it comrade let's gooo ✊

Damn I guess I didn't need to mention that. You beat me too it lol

My guy beat me to this comment. The pictures he shows, however, are jagdpanzers not jagdpanthers. I think my guys needs to study more on German panzer models.

Do you mean "Jagdpanzer?" There was no evidence that the 107th Panzer brigade had Jagdpanthers.

@@jerbs5346 Are you posting to me? Yes Panzer Brigade 107 had Jagdpanzer IV L/70 although there is a debate as to whether any arrived for the Nuenen battle. Panthers were certainly there. As I wrote in my opening post, the Jagdpanthers were in Schwere Panzerjager-Abteilung 559 and engaged the 44th Royal Tank Regiment and Easy Company a few days later at Koevering, near Veghel. Cheers.

​@@lyndoncmp5751The only way we would've known is if Spielberg had put real Jagdpanzers and Jagdpanthers side by side and asked him, "What tank did you see at Kovering?"

@@jerbs5346 Well we know Jagdpanthers of Schwere Panzerjager-Abteilung Abteilung 559 were in the Koevering area and on that date (25th September) engaging the 44th Royal Tank Regiment and knocking out Shermans. There are pictures of them and their own combat diary places them there. There were no Jagdpanzer IVs at Koevering. Winters said it was a Tiger Royal but the Tiger Royals (King Tigers) were on the other side of Arnhem, some 70km away. If you are interested in the details, this is from Jack Didden, author of Autumn Gale: ""The attack started at 08.30 hours and initially it went fairly well. LaPrade’s 1st battalion slowly advanced down the main road while Horton’s 3rd battalion walked down some sandy lanes, the Shermans of No.2 and No.4 Troops of the 44th RTR in support. As this force was getting closer and closer to the wood at Logtenburg small arms fire rapidly increased in volume. The advance began to slow down. At about 11.30 hours the leading Shermans of No.4 Troop were fired on by one of the Jagdpanther of 1./schwere Heeres Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559 on the southern edge of the wood. The first tank brewed up, killing three crew members. Two more Jagdpanther were spotted and No.4 Troop was effectively pinned down. A foot reconnaissance was made which confirmed that it would be impossible for the American Paratroopers to cross the road either, owing to the large amount of small arms fire which the Germans could send directly up the main road. This forced Colonel Sink to come up with another plan. He decided to try a repeat of the attack which had led to the capture of Eindhoven a week earlier. Strayer’s 2nd Battalion was to proceed down the same sandy track as 3rd Battalion. However, instead of turning right when they were level with Logtenburg, they would proceed another kilometre along it before turning west. Hopefully they could outflank the German position in this way. The attack was to be supported by No.5 Troop of the 44th RTR. Without wasting time Strayer’s battalion set off. Once they had reached the hamlet of Hoogebiezen the Paratroopers turned right. It was now 12.30 hours. All the time the Americans were subjected to withering small arms fire. Still, determined as ever, the Paratroopers entered the woods to clear them. The three British tanks drove on in search of targets. Sergeant Newman’s tank, moving to the left of the wood, turned a corner and found itself facing a Jagdpanther. The gunner immediately fired and scored a direct hit, but with absolutely no effect. The gunner of the Jagdpanther responded just as quickly and the 88 shell penetrated the codriver’s seat. Still, the driver managed to reverse the tank back into cover only to receive two more direct penetrations in the turret. The Sherman caught fire and three crew members, Sergeant Newman among them, were killed while the other two were wounded. The other two tanks, trying to help, faced some steep dunes which they could just climb, but once at the top they found that they could not depress their guns sufficiently to engage the Germans and so they remained where they were.” The second paragraph involved Winters as Easy Company was in the 2nd Battalion under Strayer.

​@@lyndoncmp5751 There's also this weird spelling error on the 101st map. It's designated as "Hovering." Instead, Kovering. Can you explain how they messed that up?

M42s still saw a lot of use in Market Garden as well.

@@huntclanhunt9697 yeah, yeah you're right.

What M42 M43 Helmet? Uniform? Engine? Lens mount? Camera? Sub Machine Gun? Howitzer Motor Carriage? Ammunition? Grenade? Mortar? Anti Tank gun? Gas mask? Bicycle? Self Propelled Anti Aircraft?

@@niceyoureadmycomment323 I think the uniforms.

@@niceyoureadmycomment323 same story with m1, m4 etc))

The BAR gunners I’ve seen was in Hacksaw Ridge and Band of brothers and some parts of The Pacific.

From what I’ve heard though the BAR wasn’t that common in the 101st and the m1 was preferred by many

Yet in games there's lot of BARs

@@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3937 it wasn’t used during Normandy in general I believe. They were re geared once they returned to England and were equipped with the BAR

I believe that specific "tiger" is actually a T34 that was made into a tiger look a like.

Better yet I'm pretty sure it was originally made for saving private Ryan because at the time of filming there wasn't a working tiger restored. The one captured in Africa hadn't been made to run by that point so they had to use other tanks. Something like that anyways.

@@Rubin250 your correct

and that jagpanther

I'm glad I'm not the only one you can tell bc of the interleaved road wheels and its overall girth

@Tearjerker I know. But it's still cool that they used a t 54

Your autocorrect got you... tomtaks? You meant 'to take'? Sad when orders cost so many lives. Btw, why was the ATG abandoned?

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 to my knowledge they legged it once they were pushed by the infantry.

@@stephenrenwick8781 makes sense, thanks. Just wondered if the last tank might have wounded some, or a random artillery hit, but without support and/or towing vehicle, it makes a lot of sense.

That ATG got it's 15minutes of glory, solid investment to take out three tanks.

Wish they'd make a movie about the actual Winter War instead of the continuation war against the Soviet's that would be awesome or even a miniseries.

It was also depicted in Battlefield 1942’s mod Forgotten Hope fairly accurately. Pity that engine is so ancient now (2002) Even some excellent maps depicted in its sequel (Dog Green sector of Normandie) are also old generation FPS now.

That was for the Dutch population so they knew who they were. They did this a few other times throughout the war. But they would usually ditch those armbands once in combat.

The Germans created lots of different jagdpanzer types. Hetzer, Stug, Jagdpanzer IV, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger and ect ect.

@@mikkel066h and different variants of everyone to.

@@thefronttier2884 yep which is why their production lines were chaotic and their supply of spare parts was awful. If you have 20 different tanks needing 20 different parts you’ll have a harder time supplying. Compared to an army with 5 different tanks needing 5 different parts. Which is why the western Allies pretty much just had different variations of Sherman’s.

@@mikkel066h but the variations gave flexibility to the german army they had a pz3 and one variant was AT and another a Bunker- Fortifications Buster.

It bloody looks like it captured maybe but when?

The Fallschirmjaeger on the right has a camouflaged smock on. I usually see those in 44-45 photos.

Germans never did too well, so they made use with anything they could capture. Especially late in the war and there's a ton of historical photos showing Fallschirmjägers armed with American weapons.

There was a battalion of Tiger II tanks facing the British at Arnhem, and there was a a company of Panthers that attacked the Americans here with Panzergrenadiers, which overran them somewhat like depicted here.

Sarcasm?

Lol

Yeah there are some minor inaccuracies, but i think in broad strokes they did a very good job

@@TheArrowedKnee Minor one is straight character assassination of Dike just because Easy didn't like his command style that's major and their portrayal of British tank commanders its straight up slander and an insult to their memories also you should hear what Dick Winters though about the US forces retreating at the Bastogne buttered and out of ammo it wasn't pleasant.

@@TheArrowedKnee depends on what side you sit most British people get miffed at how we qre portrayed in this series

​@@afriendlycadian9857 British soldiers are shown in the series maybe 4 times, for a total running time of maybe 5 minutes, and in only one of those scenes are they portrayed as incompetent. On the other hand, Americans were portrayed as incompetent multiple times throughout the show. Maybe you're overreacting a bit lol

yea that threw me off a bit too. i looked at german machine guns during that time and it matches nothing. it has to be a m1919

Jagdpanther in the series, jagdpanzer in the actual events. The vid discusses what really happened, so it goes on with jagdpanzer

Same operation, different sector. 1st para brigade was meant to be dropped in the area of the British first para division. Band of Brothers is about the US 101st para division. Between them and the Polish force was yet another division: the US 82nd para division. So it was not that odd that the Poles were not mentioned, they fought and died 50 kilometers to the north. Don't worry, some of us still remember what they did, and how they were falsly blamed for the failure.

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Thank you :)

Nah. The vehicles already made enough noise that the Germans would've heard them coming from a hundred meters away or farther. He was shot because he walked ahead in the open and put up his binoculars. The use of binoculars was something that pretty much just spotters and officers did and both were among the preferred targets of snipers. In fact in the hierarchy of targets for snipers, officers are second only behind the #1 priority; enemy snipers. So he walked out in the open, raised the binoculars and the sniper went "Officer!" and shot him. The Germans certainly would've started firing soon anyway, but the easy shot at such a high value target was enough to get it started.

I was hoping to see this comment!❤

Depicted in the series is a jagdpanther. The guide as well as historical sources talk about jagdpanzers. The vid chooses to follow the narrative of the guide, not the series.

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Jagdpanther is a type of jagdpanzer(tankhunter). Jagdpanzer(model) is also a type of jagdpanzer(tankhunter. The guy in the video is clearly referring to the series, which is why he is wrong.

Captured weapons were often used. The Germans even used captured tanks: beutepanzer.

A jagpanther is a jagdpanzer a jagdpanzer is a panzer

Just walk there and use a match?

Panzer Brigade 107 didn't have Jagdpanthers. Hes talking about the real battle, not the series. The series wrongly shows a Jagdpanther replica but in real life Panzer Brigade 107 had Panthers and Jagdpanzer IV L/70.

And technically the Jagdpanther is still a tank hunter (jagdpanzer/panzerjager).

@@lyndoncmp5751 there's still a huge difference in looks, I know the jagdpanther is a tank destroyer.

But seeing as the guy is talking about the real battle a lot he's right to say its a Jagdpanzer, because that is what Panzer Brigade 107 had in their panzerjager company not Jagdpanthers. Cheers.

​@@lyndoncmp5751 16:27 you can clearly hear him say "this is a jagdpanzer" while looking at the movie, if he knew exactly the difference between a jagdpanzer IV and a jagdpanther, he would've pointed out how the one in the movie isn't the right tank destroyer like i've seen him point out other wrong tools used in other scenes or movies or he could've also said something like "i know that's not the right destroyer but i appreciate how they still used a tank destroyer, maybe to make it look more menacing". So no, pretty convinced that he thinks that was a jagdpanzer.

Yes

You'd honestly be surprised at the sheer amount of captured weapons the Germans actually used. There's a ton of historical photos online of Fallschirmjägers especially armed with American weapons.

The Russians did it all the time. They lacked proper tracked troop transports, so this way they always had infantry with them. An ambush would usually cost them a tank with the troops riding it, but they could react right away, instead of waiting for marching infantry to reach the position. At the moment it cost them troops, but giving the enemy time to build new defences further back costs more troops.

aktually

In the series it was a, Jagdpanther replica. However in real life Panzer Brigade 107 had Jagdpanzer IVs.

And technically the Jagdpanther is still a tank hunter(jagdpanzer/panzerjager).

I think so :/ what happened? It was actually an interesting one

RU-vid strikes again!