It would be worse now open court no touch no 7 foot center no 6 10 6 9 pf enforcer to put you on you ass if you get to hot...no back to backs better travel better medicine an training...50 on a bad team 35-45 on a champion chip caliber team.
I would like to add in everytime you see them falling or not blocking it's mostly because they are that tired Jordan was insanely active from start to finish. He was better than you can see in a short clip he was brutally competitively, non stop defending and scoring. That's why it always looks like nobody's doing anything to try to stop him. Because even with fouling and holding him they still had trouble stopping him.
Most experts think he’d be averaging 40-45 in today’s game, with the extra space, tighter foul calls and pace of possession. I mean imagine if Jordan had had even MORE space… insane.
To answer a few of your questions Yes, his competition was that good, he was just better. His second year, he broke his foot and he missed over 60 games that year. When he came back he was on a strict minutes watch. A month after rehab, in the playoffs he scored 49pts against the 86 celtics, one of the greatest teams of all time in Game1, they swore he would do that again. He dropped the record 63 on them in Game 2. The second biggest injury was toward the end of his career. Wizards were on a good run and he hurt knee where he needed surgery, he missed over month to recover and when he came back he was not the same. And one of your other questions, his career high is 69pts. He also grabbed 18 rebounds in that game as well. The guy was a living cheat code
and just to add another answer, Reggie and the Pacers didn't make the foul because it was very common to see Jordan with three points on those scenarios, so it was better sometimes to just leave it alone
He made his opponents look like weak competition, but the thing is they werent. They were VERY good, he was just so far above any other humans ability to play that game that he would just toy with whole teams. Its like when an all state boys high school team player plays a game with 6th graders. I was lucky I got to watch him from his college days till last retirement live and got his autograph in person (I grew up in North Carolina). Lebron is incredible, but MJ is on a whole nother level man, its unfair to Lebron to compare the two. Lebron, best player in the world right now, MJ best player to ever exist.
If only you were there back then, you could have told every coach and every player in the entire NBA how bad they were, and how wrong they were for the way they were defending him. Or maybe you could consider they know more than you since, ya know, they are professionals and he really was just that hard to stop from anywhere on the court.
Michael terrible competition….. Patrick hewings knicks, Shaq and penny hardaway Orlando magic, Charles Barkleys 93 suns team. Karl Malone and John stocktons Utah jazz team. Reggie millers pacers team. Bad boy pistons. 80s lakers and Celtics teams. Gary Payton and Shawn kemp SuperSonics. The hawks with Dominique Wilkins. Portland trailblazers with Clyde drexler. The list goes on. Nobody remembers those teams because those teams didn’t win cause they couldn’t beat the bulls. But his competition was possibly the best in history from an offensive and defensive perspective as well as the different rules at the time
Perfectly stated ! Defense was a huge factor in Jordan’s era. And Michael and the Bulls were as good defensively as they were offensively. You’d have to have known some of the players he’s dunking on in this video Mourning, Robinson, Ewing, Mutombo, Shaq etc They’re all 7 ‘ footers The Pistons defense is considered the best ever, knicks under Pat Riley killer D, Cavs had a great team good D the Pacers even better So many 84-82 wins back then. Why ? Defense Tv ratings like high scoring games hence the rule changes, no hand checking etc. No hand checking Jordan and Pippin lol Jordan 40-50 a game every game Pippin 30 a game Nice thread
TY for pointing this out. Beat more 50,55 and 60 win teams than Lefaud. People say MJ never faced a team like the Warriors. That's because MJs teams were the dominate team in the league.
Dude the reason they're biting at MJ's fakes is because he's the greatest mid range shooter of all time. If they wont contest his shot then it's automatic for MJ.
To add to that he also had the quickest first step and as you see in the video if he has a quarter step on you, heck if you're in his way, you will get dunked on. So what you call bad defense is a defender picking their poison. Let him shoot or chance him getting by you for a dunk and putting you on a poster. Those stumbles you see are caused by fear of his quickness and his ability to blow by a defender.
@@ducatister3674 💯 If he didn’t have every tool in the shed, they wouldn’t bite so hard and in turn, look like they’re bad defenders. With todays rules, defenders would look that much worse.
If u listen to some interviews some stars from that era talked about it too, they’re like telling themselves don’t bite don’t jump but something bout him makes them do it anyway lol
@@oldsch001tothebone5 lol for this reason as a kid i taped all of jordans games the last 2 seasons w the bulls...knew we were watching history and that some day we'd need proof or people wouldnt believe how good he really was...thank God for youtube lol
His completion was not terrible. He was just that good he made them look bad. The depth of talent was greater in that era then this era. This era is basically was college was back in the 90’s. Bunch of college kids with no fundamentals.
"His hands must have been huge." His hand length/span is in the top 10 among all players in NBA History (I think he is #7 or #8). He has one of the fastest acceleration (first step), highest vertical leap, and highest work rate. In terms of physical advantages, he has everything. Couple that with an insane, almost maniacal thirst to win, mentality was never an issue with him - I believe it was his greatest attribute. Just think about what Shaq could have been with all his physical advantages if he had Jordan's mindset. Also Michael Jordan really did show us what a "shooting guard" should be since he has 1. Shooting stats - #1 in ppg amongst all guards, and players for that matter; 2. Guarding stats - #3 in steals, #3 in blocks, #3 in rebounds, #4 in assists (per game) among all shooting guards.
He said compare this to lbj highlight 😂😂😂 Kids these days really think life didn’t exist back then. This new generation and their soft feminine mentality 🤷♂️
MJ has no equal Jordan on Offense 30.1ppg for his career, most in NBA history 33.4ppg career playoffs average, most in NBA history 33.6ppg in 6 Finals appearances, most in NBA history 41.0ppg in a Finals series, most in NBA history 10 Scoring titles, most in NBA history 10 seasons with 2,000+ points, most in NBA history Jordan with Analytics PER (Player Efficiency Rating): Highest in history for both the regular season (27.91) and the playoffs. (28.6) Win Shares per 48 (WS/48): Highest in history for both the regular season (.2505) and the playoffs (.2553) Box plus Minus: Highest in history for both the regular season (9.22) and the playoffs (11.14) VORP per Game: Highest in history for both the regular season (.1083) and the playoffs(.1382) Jordan on Defense He was the first player in history to be selected to 9 All Defensive First teams. He was the first player in history to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, it has still only been done by 3 players. (Michael did it twice). He was the steals leader 3 times. He's the only guard in history, relative to his position, both in the Top 5 for blocks and Top 5 for steals. He was the defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Champion in the same year, the only player in history to accomplish this. His 131 blocks for the 1988 season is still the most blocks in a season by a guard in NBA history.
That good, he dominated so badly during the 2 three peat that you don't hear about his competition (never losing in the finals does that) There's alot of great players in that 90's era Charles Barkley, Hakeem, bad boy pistons, Shaq, Patrick Ewing, Clyde Drexler, Reggie Miller, ect, ect
Before Lebron the NBA marketed ALL of it's marquee players, they all had commercials,fanboys,shoe deals,their own teams and competed against each other, peak NBA mid 80s to mid 2000s.
What is it with kids thinking the competition sucked? The best were just that good. The game was also way more physical back then before all the rule changes where you breathe wrong and you get called for a foul today.
He had the second biggest hands in the NBA he ran a 4.40 his vertical standing still was 48 in if he was running and he stepped off two feet it was 51 never before and never again he almost wasn't damn near human
Also keep in mind this dude was averaging 37, 35 and 30+ PPG every year when teams were averaging 80-85pts per game. That’s why a lot of people say Jordan would average 50+ in today’s era Bc he would get so many more possessions. Teams are averaging 115pts a game nowadays.
People bought Tickets when the Chicago Bulls came to town JUST to see Michael Jordan play. Legends will tell you that when you played MJ, you'd better bring your A game! If you got too close, he would drive to the hoop, if you backed off him, the deadliest shooter in the game will sink it. It was very very difficult to guard him, let alone the mind games he played with everyone. What your seeing here is only a mixed highlight reel, there's soooo much more.
There are several highlights of him torching Rodman during the Piston years (DPOY x2), dunking on Mourning (DPoY x2), Hakeem (DPoY x2) Mutombo (DPoYx4) and absolutely owning a third of the 75 guys in the fancy jackets at the all star game. Jordan never played a team like the Curry Warriors because the Jordan Bulls were that team.
the defenders weren't as athletic as nowadays. But the rules back then helped less athletic defenders. For example, with hand-check you had a pretty big advantage on the offender, who rarely had the opportunity to leave you off guard with a fast first step. also scoring in the paint was way harder because the center could sit under the rim and defend it. also, there wasn't that much floor spacing due to the lack of 3p attempts. So it was harder to dunk than how is today. That's also why sometimes you see Jordan dunking on 3 or even 4 people, because they were all so close.
The defense back then was waaaaaay better than anything Lebron has ever encountered!! Lebron wouldn't make it to game 6 out of 7 against the Bad Boys, Knicks or Bulls back then
The competition and defense was very good back then, far from terrible. He waa just head and shoulders above everyone else in the league. As a matter of fact they were very physical and got away with alot. He did all this in an era where those things were a legitimate part of the game and still excelled. That is just how good he was. It was Jordan and then the rest of the league. So when you hear people say things like, "Oh, there was no competition, and the players were trash." Man please, Jordan was just that much better than everyone else. Joe Dumars, former Detroit Piston, NBA Champion, NBA Finals MVP, and one of the best defenders and players in the NBA during that era said, "Oh he isn't just somebody who you would say, oh he's good for his time. He's good for his time, 20 years from now, 30 years from now, you would look at him and say he is someone special." Jordan would average even more under these rules in this era. This era is tailor-made for his offensive style, and great shooting. This was a guy who averaged 30 for his career and did this while getting hammered alot. Now take away the fact that you can't touch him like that anymore. How much more dangerous does he become? The Bulls beat more 60+ win, and 50+ win teams in the NBA FInals than Lebron. Kobe did as well. And they both have better records against those teams than Lebron.
"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." ~Michael Jordan
It wasn't the competition was terrible, it's just that Jordan was That Good! He was heads and shoulders above everyone even Magic and Bird at his Apex. He is literally the Bruce Lee of Basketball. Just pull up any game from the 80's of the bulls, lakers, celtics, pistons and watch the whole game, just on eye test alone you can tell it was much much harder to score and play in that era. Jordan would drop avg of 40 plus points in todays era as a cake walk.. ask any Pro that played against him they will tell you the same!
his highest game score is 69 points 18 rebounds. he so good he really got people thinking his era was weak with monsters like patrick ewing, charles barkley. drexler and so many other good qnd alltime players that have been forgotten by history lol or at least the modern fans dont care to find out more about the era or do so with a mindset of trying to diminish the past to boost the present. as bob costas says "lots of players are strong, lots have skill, but only one has this level of artistry", for me he just looks bettter than everyone else, and the numbers and accolades simply back up what your eyes are seeing. he just looks different. also do not let MJ shoot lol you have to try and block it cux he will most likely than not make it lol his midrange game is stupid.
Let him shoot? MJ's the best mid-range shooter in NBA history, and letting him "just shoot" has got to be the dumbest, most idiotic plan you can come up with to deal with him 🤦 At age 38-40 as a Wizard, MJ made 72% of his fadeaway shots. 72 PERCENT. That's how lethal he is, and his opponents knew that. Can you blame them for jumping up when they think he was gonna shoot? And the way you smirk at the defense back then, as if today's players play any defense AT ALL.
“Was competition so bad back then” “how did he fall” “uncoordinated”. What??!! Competition was way (and I mean waaaaay) harder back then. And defenses were much tougher. If you went in the paint you get killed. Todays NBA is super soft and all stats are inflated. The guy fell as he was back pedaling because his heel stepped ON HIS TEAMMATES foot. And BTW, nobody is in the NBA of any era (now or 50 years ago) without being a good athlete and a coordinated person.
His competition was elite , hard defenses, well coached players …he was superior to them. He was so dominant especially off the court commercials etc, that the rest of the league gets over looked today. It’s a shame cause those knicks , pacers , Orlando, hornets Jazz , suns , spurs all had some great teams and players during early mid 90s
His competitors were the likes of Magic Bird Malone Ewing Barkley Stockton Miller Wilkins Drexler Shaq Hakeem Payton and many more. The 80s and 90s were the golden age of basketball and made it what it is today.
I don’t expect you to understand how good Michael was. You’re just not going to. I appreciate you watching though. Keep shooting. Michael himself said that he missed like 27 game winners or to tie. That is why he succeeded. You already said it. DB mentality. Short memory. Make the next one. P.S. you’re not scoring on Mike from anywhere. Don’t give up your music. 😁
Yes, he is the best ever and yes by a long shot. Back in the day teams could get very physical and often did even with Michael. He missed the majority of I think his second season, and then I think the following year played point and averaged 33, 8, 8 while shooting 53%.
I trust u when u say that u could make some MJ shots, I also can make some of those. But sometimes youngness makes u say crazy things (u will understand this some years later). Trust me, in that era u will be literaly scared of those defenders. NBA aloud handcheck, contact and today's agressions or flagrant 2 fouls, were just simple fouls. MJ just was unstoppable and the unanimous #1 not only basketball player in history, also #1 sport star of all time. Btw, good reaction
@@thenbalounge1611 The debate is media driven. They do it in order to generate ratings. All one has to do to drive ratings is to put Jordan's name under a video or in a headline and it will drive ratings. Even the Jordan haters like Isiah Thomas, are still making money off of Jordan's name.
Jordan was one of the most fundamentally sound players... with one of the quickest first steps... which is why defenses guarded him at the 3 point line. He was a career 50% shooter... with most of his shots coming from outside 3'. There is no comparison between Jordan and Lebron. Jordan sliced through teams defenses that guarded the paint to draw fouls and generate 3 point plays with his 83.5% free throw percentage... but kept defenses honest because of his midrange jump shot. Lebron plays in an era where nobody guards the paint and everyone shoots from outside, often leaving him with one man to beat on defense for easy, uncontested dunks. He's terrible outside 3'... and has a terrible career free throw percentage at 73.4%. Jordan would thrive in Lebron's era, but Lebron would suffer in Jordan's era because everyone would foul him hard in the paint and force him to make free throws... or dare him to shoot outside 3' where he shoots ~35%.
You should react to the MJ vs Bron Goat analysis it shows great as Bron is MJ is Just one another level. Its breaks it down hardcore and addresses Longevity. his competition was great he was Just better
You keep saying is terrible defense, this is what all those players said: "You think you can play defense, until you met this guy, he will show you how wrong you are", every team always have to put their best guy to guard him, it didn't matter, Paul Westphal said it best: "I never said we were going to stop him, you can't stop him",
Jordan was 50% plus just in the shooting alone and that’s mainly because there were times where he would just not be able to make a shot but it happens hardly ever towards the end of his career. He actually mastered the fadeaway and made a damn near every time and I’ve never seen him miss a dunk. I don’t know if this is true or not but I was told before each game he would shoot over 1000 shots per game. That’s why it was almost like second nature to him
In his 2nd year he broke his foot and missed 62 games. Came back at the end of the same season and scored 63 points against the Celtics in a playoff game/series they lost. He played 82 games for 11 of his 14 seasons. That is crazy.
He did this against some of the greatest players. Almost every team had superstars as starters and he still dunked on every big man in the league at 6'6". 48" vertical. 2nd season broke his foot was out for 6 weeks came back against medical advice and put up 63 against Larry Byrd. 🐐
MJ is the greatest 2 way player ever and it’s not even close ‼️ MJ had an extra gear than everyone else. Kobe comes the closest! He would overwhelm today’s players with his will power and tenacity!
Dude, learn your history. It was a much different game back then. There was no such thing as a flagrant foul. It was a big man centered game and he was doing this against multiple 7 footers in the game with one usually parked in the paint. Hand checking was allowed. He was just that much better than everyone else. And he did this against Hall of Fame players. He was basically ungaurdable. He had no weaknesses in his game
He has highlights of everything he’s good at even jump shots. Your lead to believe he never missed a shot, and of course that’s not true. But, when u watched him play, u felt like he could make every shot. That’s how good he is. And that’s how good of a jump shooter he is.
"His competition was terrible!" "Terrible defense!"........ His competition would leave YOU in the dust. You wouldn't even make the reserve list to be honest. Young buck, let me school you REAL quick: The NBA was WAY TOUGHER than the tissue soft, "Shoot only threes" NBA of today. Do you realize all of the battles MJ had to fight? If it wasn't the "Bad Boys" Pistons, it was the Larry Bird Celtics, the Ewing Knicks, the Reggie Pacers, the Shaq-Penny Magic, the Drexler Trailblazers, the "SHOWTIME" Lakers, the Barkley Suns, and the Malone-Stockton Jazz. I will put ANY of those players up against these kids today. Michael is the rare type of athlete that is SO talented that he MAKES the other pros seem less talented. Look at boxing. Mike Tyson was a small heavyweight that was knocking guys out that were twice his size with ease. It would make you think that they were amateurs. Floyd Mayweather, and Ali as well. Serena in tennis, Hamilton and Schumacher in F1 racing, a prime Tiger Woods in golf... all made the competition look soft. Oh, and one more thing: You are NOT going to score on the GOAT, period. YOU, are not going to stop him either. All you will ever be able to do is foul, so clear all those hopes and dreams out of your head. And yes, he IS the best, by a long shot. You were not even born when he was playing. I was watching him LIVE.
If you think someone is close to him when it comes to being the GOAT, just look at his championship record. He had a streak of 25/26 playoff series won. He is 11-0 in finals play, 6x NBA Championships, 4x International Championships (once leading the USA as a college student) and NCAA champion. 6x MVP, 10x scoring champion, 9x first team all defense, won DPOY and scoring title the year after people said he couldn't defend.
His offensive arsenal was so loaded as a defensive player you had to choose to one thing you thought he was going to do and stick to it but he was so good even if you chose right he would switch mid play and make you look stupid.
I'm a Canadian from Ontario and my favourite athlete should be a hockey player. But it's not. It's Michael Jordan. He amazes me more than Mario Lemieux and Wayne Gretzky put together. He's outnumbered LeBron in Scoring Titles 10 times to 1. Imagine that, LeBron's in his 21st season and he only had the highest points per game once. MJ did it 10 times in 15 seasons. And that's counting the Washington Wizards years!
Jordan played against some of the best defensive players and defensive units of all time. Pistons, Knicks, Olajuwon, Dumars, Payton, Ewing, Rodman. He'd average 50ppg today, easily.
@@christo.jmci3993 You didn't watch Kobe in awe, tuning in to see what he was gonna do from night to night because we've already seen it from MJ. What Curry did we've never seen before. I've watched all these guys in real time. Imo no one does it like MJ but Curry.
I had to pause at 17:50. They had a poster of Michael talking about all his failures. Giving estimated stats of his career and then at the end he says… and that’s why I succeed. There are different versions of it now that say different things, but if you can find that original one it was fire. I had it along with all kinds of other MJ posters up in my room growing up. I always remembered that poster every time I failed at something to boost me the next time. Sounds crazy, but it helped me with confidence and motivation. Check it out if you get a chance.
They couldn't just let him shoot. He was the absolute best midrange shooter in the game. That's why they bite on his fakes so much. And the guys he was playing against weren't bad they were awesome he was just that much better.
Longevity? He played 15 years. Do you even know why he took 3 years off AFTER the 1st 3 rings? RIP Mr James Jordan. His father was murdered. He took 3 years off. Played baseball. Came back & won 3 more straight.
It’s hard to listen to you when you say the competition was terrible because todays competition is ridiculously bad in comparison. Back then they challenged every dunk attempt, today they shoot 3,s so they don’t get touched. Longevity sure they play longer but they preserve there bodies by not getting touched by shooting a hundred 3,s per game and still score the same amount of points that they did back then.
The music was perfect in each section, telling a story and setting the tone of each moment in his career. That music wasn't "sad" smh 🤣🤦🏿♂️ it was dramatic as the editing transition shows him walking into the NBA court for the first and last time back to back, his journey of greatest coming to completion as his cements himself and his legacy as the greatest of all time, AKA The GOAT 🐐
I do feel bad for anyone who believes LeBron is even on the Top 5 all time. He isn't anywhere close to Jordan. He isn't close to Kobe. Kareem, Magic, Bird... I would take any one of them before LeChoke.
Please consider that the main problem in NBA for 10 years or more was how to stop MJ. All the teams in different eras try to guard MJ with more than one player and they cannot stop him. More: at the end of the game in 4th quarter they already know that Jordan is the main threat. Only Detroit has stoped him, partially, with illegal plays.
Theres too many intangibles a stat sheet simply cannot compile. You had to live in those days to understands his impact on society / culture as a whole not only the US, but the world. Hes the greatest athlete to pay any sport....ever. theres a reason the NBA has been in slow and steady decline since his retirement.
Please don't try to compare Lebron to Jordan. You can't tell the full effect of MJ by watching highlights, he was way more clutch than Lebron and it was a much more physical game at that time. You could give a hard foul back then without the refs running over to the monitor to check if it was flagrant. The competition was much tougher back then.
lol if he played today the nba might actually be watchable. he would prolly average 50 and it would be boring. if you think the players he was playing against then were bad wtf do you think the scrubs are playing now are? why would you even bring up lebron in this he sucks everyone that actually watched any of the actual great players knows lebron is not on that level there is nothing to compare. all he has is longevity. Fouling jordan doesn't do anything unlike lebron Jordan actually is a great free throw shooter
A big difference between Jordan and LeBron was that Jordan was never afraid to take the last shot and miss. I think LeBron shies away from taking the last shot and driving to the basket the last minute because he is a terrible free throw shooter. That's why he passes in those situations. Which is a product of his subpar shooting skills and his general fear.
Wow, if only these professional basketball players, many legends in their own right, if only they had you coaching them they could've easily bested Michael Jordan.........Sure dude. Right. 🙄