Reaction to Mississippi Bishop Resigning from Pulpit (feat. Tember Harward) 

I don't view them as siblings in Christ. Sorry God would not work though JS- sexual predator, conman, charlatan...nobody takes this religion seriously.

Very few Christians in other denominations recognize us as siblings in Christ. Kudos to you for going against mainstream Christianity

​@josuearevalo1694 , at one time, I was in the LDS church is a cult camp. However, I met some wonderful LDS folks and saw their love for Jesus, and it changed my heart towards the LDS church. I do have some disagreements with LDS doctrine, and after praying I don't have a witness of the Book of Mormon. I don't know if I will ever become LDS, but I do expect sit at Jesus' feet in Heaven with LDS brothers and sisters.

@@josuearevalo1694 lds is not christian. you're polytheistic (reach exaultation get your own planet/galaxy/countless spiritchildren), prophet is JS, and the main holy book the BoM. You're similar in some ways but the same with the Jewish or Muslim religion. But at the end of the day it is a 1800s pioneer sex cult that is not Christian.

@@anthonygamblin9983 It is a cult. the BITE model is well respected guidelines for what is/isn't a cult and mormons fall most definitely into the CULT side. Furthermore research the 'second anointing' a ceremony the higher-ups keep secret, people spend their whole life being a member without knowing because they're not at the high enough level. Anyways it pretty much absolves one of all sins and they are pretty much guaranteed a place in the highest heaven. This ceremony was what did it for me to put them into the 'cult' side of things. Lastly they don't believe they will see you in heaven because you don't follow their conman JS among other things, they look down on you for nothing believing and say you will not reach heaven so don't be so easy on them. what the members were doing is called 'love bombing' where they are super doper nice to try and pull one over on you.

well thats not what made him leave, he admitted he commited a sin, and lied to the ward, but he admitted it later on mormon podcast, watch that conversation

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Thank You for your Christian comment. FEW AND FAR BETWEEN HERE!!!!

Me too.

He won't, he left Christ's Church

@@legacy79-jt1gb Spoken like a lousy Christian. Try to be a better Christian

​@@legacy79-jt1gbNot really, just the Mormon church

Nah, it makes sense to do it in the way he did to avoid the rumor mill. The whole “they just want to sin” mantra is still repeated too often.

Wah wah wah. Free Speech is great until it is an embarrassment to The Church

I don't find it wrong. He just addressed everyone.

Agreed... Seems he was looking for a performance. Complete Embarrassment!!

@@Beef_it_to_be_fit It would be fine if he just talked to them and said goodbye. However, it seems he did this more for attention. Why else would he get his brother to film him and post it online?

@GeneralWinter9, your mis-use of "fascist" is making it hard to believe other accusations of fascism.

Thank You for demonstrating some BASIC Christianity....to these hypocrites.

That goes both ways. It was pretty disrespectful what he did. He had it filmed from start to finish with the intent to post it on social media. He has an axe to grind. It goes both ways.

@@davidfrey5654 He’s entitled to his own ax and to grind it. WHO more so than a Bishop???

@@davidfrey5654 it doesn’t go both ways. You people claim to be in Jesus’s church yet you can’t help but throw stones at this guy. You disagreed with something he said so you piled on. Sheep.

What he did was very anti Christ. And I would think you can defend your own faith when someone over the top throws you and your church under the bus.

So can any responsibility where you take it too seriously. You can only do what you can do. It’s all about having the right perspective. I’m in the club.

I'm currently there. It is extraordinarily difficult and awfully painful at times. More than I expected, frankly. But the only way it breaks you is if you try to go it alone, without following the Lord, without keeping His Spirit with you and without keeping prophetic counsel.

That’s for sure. I felt like I was super prayerful and constantly in touch with the Lord but many times I felt alone and stretched beyond my capacity. It’s been almost two years since my release and I’m finally starting to feel like I’m recovering. But it’s taken a lot of serious soul searching and some counseling to help me start to feel normal again. I had so many difficult things to internalize that I just couldn’t shake off. Maybe it’s a personality thing:) but I had people threaten me, scream at me, confess adultery, child abuse, prostitution, drugs, rash of bi sexuality among the youth, child abuse, constant returning home early missionaries, angry parents for them coming home early or others not going. The list goes on and on. I was on with church legal, what felt like all the time. And I just settled a lawsuit with a guy that sued me because of my being a bishop. Crazy times. Some people are just more prepared and have the personality type to deal with the call. This poor bishop had to have just snapped.

Well Said. When push comes to shove, Mormons....TBMs...are NOT VERY CHRISTIAN...OR CHARITABLE. They love to tout their WORKS....but don't ask them for ANY CHARITY FOR ANYONE LEAVING THE CHURCH WHO TALKS ABOUT IT PUBLICLY.

You are ignorant of the battlefield or willingly misrepresenting it. He is not “expressing doubt” but aggressively pursuing proactive anti-Mormonism via anti-Mormon channels and podcasts and name-calling us, threatening us, and spreading lies about us under the false premise of his “bishop” calling. You are just angry we are wise to the tactics now and are calling it out. These aren’t “doubts” honestly inquired, but attacks and jabs to be debunked. If you cannot handle it, leave. But your crybully tactics won’t work here. We counterpunch, and people who aren’t used to pushback can’t handle it. I guess you’re one of those people.

@@WARDRADIO ANOTHER Hypocrite Moment from the Ward Radio Coven. What lies did he tell about you??? He had/has every right to discuss his doubts…feelings…opinions…as do you all. What you can’t stand is that once people discover Truths and Facts which The Church omitted for decades…while telling Members NOT to look at “Anti” materials…finally surfaces in the lives of too few Members. You of course want Truthsayers and Factspeakers to be silent, while you tout The Narrative and spew the Apologetics. You hit back with BS and simple self-serving conclusions. You are the real Bullies who have to lie about The Other Side at almost every opportunity.

Lame reply . Sounds like an angry rant. You do not represent the mormons I know .Brutal.

@@Chris-bd2se Don’t care. Bye.

Respect from k town next door lol

Respect from your brother in Taiwan!

Ya, mine did... I had spent my entire life preparing to have me own Eternal Family as a Foster child, being through many things, and I chose badly my companion, and she destroyed me during and after marriage. I don't know if I can get any of it back since my health is so bad now, I'm trying, but it's FAR too slow etc. My heart has failed me, everything I was to do in life and for my family and 3 sons, I was able to do almost NONE of it because of her wickedness, and my own weak heart for I guess I had nothing left spending it all in the first half of my life to try and reach the second half intact.

One reference to "...men's hearts shall fail them..." is found in D&C 88:91 (also 45:26) and over the past 10 years it has been frequently cited in General Conference along with the "world being in commotion" from the same verse. The cross references in vs. 90 and 92 to Rev. 8 5 & 13 and the verses in-between are interesting to say the least...

@@lukev483 Verified by all parties to the experiences....testified to and cross-examined or just his assertion?

My thoughts exactly

Agree 💯%

I have served as a counselor in 3 Bishoprics over a 25 year span of time and although I always felt pressure and stress from the calling I never felt like the calling would "break me" but I am an older guy from that older generation when we just didn't internalize things like the younger men do today. Everyone is different in how they handle stress so I acknowledge that. I agree that this Bishop, despite the internal struggles, should have never made such a public showing of stepping down. The appropriate thing to do is quietly leave after counseling with his Stake President.

His “angle” was just that he knows the church gossips about bishops when they step down early or are released early so he wanted to try to get ahead of that and point out his true reasons. He explains it all on the last two episodes of Mormon Stories.

@stevehumble8865 You’d quietly say nothing about abuse that you’re aware of? That is very common in the lds church but still! Why should he or others stay silent about abuse? Why should he not try to prevent the rumours that are rampant in the lds church? Why should he not get to say goodbye? That’s not a very empathetic, loving, kind,good attitude y’all are taking.

@@timmiestabrnak don't twist my words! I never said anything in my comments about condoning abuse, my comments were centered on the unnecessary public display this Bishop did when he stepped down, period. In no way do leaders that I know of ever condone abuse. This ex Bishop was under stress he could not handle, that is obvious and stepping down was absolutely the right thing for him to do but I don't agree with how he did it. Bishops get to say goodbye all the time when they are formally released from the calling, I've witnessed this many times. This Bishop bypassed the normal release decision and did his own without the guidance and supervision of the Stake President.

He stepped aside because he was expected, after consulting with church lawyers, to ignore an abuser and allow that abuser to continue that abuse. He went against church policy and informed the police. So the matter could be properly dealt with and have the abuse stopped. He tried to step away in a way that would not incriminate the church or leave himself open to false judgement.@@stevehumble8865

Mad respect, Bishop

The Problem is The Church and “The Gospel” are based on Joseph Smith and very correlated/manipulated Church History

​@@krismurphy7711i thought that the evil, closed-minded closed canon dogmatic Pharisees were all dead, but then again, here you are! You are the living epitome of those wicked men who wore black robes in The Chosen! Go away, Akiva!

Yes, their are some tossers out there however the Lord gives everyone opportunities for growth even us as we may need patience in following them

@@elk2804 “patience”?? Why would we need patience? I guess the best example of patience would be those Blacks who lived their entire lives discriminated against by The Church???

Alright. Fair enough. 👋🏼 see you later

I hope you guys continued success.@@WARDRADIO

​@@WARDRADIOy'alls channel is a joke. You embarrass yourselves and the church.

because he has those sins

@@SaxSpySo you’re down with asking young boys and girls personal sexual questions? Nice.👍🏻

I love your comment about showing an increase of love. You should ask your Nephew what and why.

LOVE vs Ward Radio BS

ye vipers against love! Luke 27 21 neither shall they say lo here or lo there for behold the kingdom of heaven is within Your words disgraceful yes instead of going out and enjoying the amazing beauty of a natural world created with love the pagan practice the vampire 🧛🏻☠️RICHual of pretending to eat my body and drink my blood Proverbs 8;36 "those that hATE me they love dEATh" the AGE of ATE & a stiff neck'd 👔 people and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹 they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters to their alter ego and their DIEt of dEATh burnt offer sacrifice 🥶 And they speak their magic spells Temple Deadication They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death Temple = bode "body" the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body "those that hATE me they love death" the LAW OF moses A WOLF first introduced in the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals Later written on the paper of dead trees "Those that hATE me they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36 D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult WAR'D members CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son Sol die rs sun die ours son die r Killing the light of the world Sold your soul soldier To whoo 🦉🔥 ? Lucifer Devil Serpent black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak "pairable" magic spells mission ♈🐏 aries patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key they speak their magic spells and the people are deaf & blind of what they say i hear the words of your mouth ye pagan people

@@krismurphy7711still here 😂

What does an increase in love really mean?

Same. I am worried at intentions but ultimately sad for the ym.

When you’ve been taught alternative facts your whole life, and find out the whole truth around the First Vision accounts, the problematic timeline of the Priesterhood restoration, the truth about the Book of Abraham, about the Book of Mormon, the Masonic origin of the temple endowment, the VIP second anointed club, problems with polygamy, read old conferences and realize that a lot of horrible stuff has been preached from the pulpit all in the name of God, you definitely go through different stages of grief.

He IS disheartened, but that doesn't excuse him from intentionally filming his "resignation talk" and posting it online. Clearly he has an axe to grind against the church.

@@mgeuleinstsear I did find out about the "truth" of the Book of Mormon. It's true! 🙂

@@davidfrey5654 Well, it is a book. So, as a book it is true. However, it is not a historical record. The Church says that it contains the fullness of the gospel, yet it lacks everything that is unique to Mormonism. No Aaronic/Melchizedek priesthood No temple endowment No mention of the Plan of Salvation No mention of tithing No mention of specific Church organization (all the different positions of leadership) No mention of baptism for the dead No mention of celestial marriage, of temple sealings Even though Jesus Christ himself was supposedly there and the BoM is uncorrupted. It is all typical 19th century stuff that religious people debated about at JS’s time, plus an attempt to explain the origins of Native Americans, which people also debated about. Take a look at the “caractors” document found on the Church’s website. “Reformed Egyptian” looks like normal letters with added ornaments and dots and sometimes just upside down. Every Egyptologist will laugh at those characters 😵‍💫

ugh. anyways

If you're so intelligent you should know not to generalize in such a sweeping fashion.

"against"??????? Please. Dehlin is PRO TRUTH & FACTS. Sorry that cuts into your "faith"

That’s what I’ve been saying, John dehlin is not just anti-Mormon, he is now spreading anti-Christ beliefs.

Exactly what it is

Wow, really? What an insightful thought. Thanks for being so respectful, even though you disagree. That's amazing, dude. Respect. Good on you

Have any of you listened to any of John Dehlin's podcasts? Not from the looks of the comments. Judgement without knowledge. Your religious beliefs hinder reality.

Could it be that he has been pressured to withhold a temple recommend on some youth for some transgressions or other, but he can't stand to "damage" that precious soul by judging him, her or them for some transgression or other?

@@billboswell6036 very possibly. I wish he would say that, but when he started speaking incoherently and extremely emotional you can tell he is in some sort of distress. Doesn’t mean he is having mental trouble but seeking counseling is good idea anyway. He very well could be having mental trouble, and in that case it is respectful to back off and let him deal rather than try and debate and criticize. The thing is we don’t know so we shouldn’t judge either way.

Being a bishop and being forced to do things against your own moral compass would cause anyone huge mental distress. Clearly he’s struggling mentally with learning that the church he loved dearly, is false.

​@@jordanvarnon4835 I appreciated your comments and feel compelled to also come to the defense of a brother who is certainly in CRISIS. I have also suffered from a mental health crisis that took me to the brink of death by suicide and I have been literally saved from death miraculously multiple times. I believe this man did tell his story about his wrestling match with our Savior Jesus Christ. My point of view, which seems to be an unpopular one, is the fact that he first resigns from his "position of authority" and then he attempts to give some answers to his ward family as a non-bishop to help his ward family stay focused on the LIGHT OF JESUS CHRIST. The fact that people are "crucifying" this man for courageously resigning and stepping away to take care of his mental health, to me, is no different than someone who is afflicted with a sickness or cancer that no longer have the capacity to serve as bishop. He is suffering from a consciousness that he cannot go into detail about over the pulpit. It's an audience full of children and youth. He is trying his best, in my opinion, to say farewell (even if all he said is a big "nothing burger" as Ward Radio loves to say about his situation) No man should be reduced to a "nothing burger" even by a group of comedians who are clearly taking advantage of his illness and his situation to crack jokes and poke their fun. I choose to defend the man and give him my mercy rather than my judgement. I also understand Ward Radio is all about fun and jokes, but their jokes around this man's mental health ALL fell flat with me because I am ALSO someone who is suffering and who is "not mentally well" My name is: Aaron Spencer Watts Born and baptized in the Cypress California Stake Served a faithful two year mission to Goiania, Brazil Got married in the SLC temple on July 1, 2005 Got mentally sick in early 2020 as Covid began Got laid off from my corporate job in April of 2023 after fighting for 3 full years to stabilize myself I am now homeless and legally separated from my wife and children because of my illness and my heart breaks for this man. I lost my family because I am sick. I am still active in church and have not and will not leave because I do believe I made a baptismal covenant with God (before I got married) that I cannot break. I am concerned that my wife is planning to divorce me and break our marriage covenant. Everyone has agency to choose and we do not really know why they are prompted to break up with someone whom they covenanted with. I will ALWAYS LOVE my wife even if she feels the need to end our marriage. I do not know what I have caused her to suffer. (I can say, that I have never sexually or physically abused my wife or children. I have never cheated on my wife with anyone, and I freely admit that I probably have been unintentionally verbally and emotionally abusive to my wife and children as I have suffered from my condition of Bipolar disorder. It's a sad chapter of my story, but I believe deeply, that Jesus Christ will clean up my messes and FIX EVERYTHING IN THE FINAL CHAPTER OF THE STORY. If anyone out there is struggling and needs a friend to listen and lean on please call me. I would love to listen to you and to hear your story. 801-671-7977 My story is not a "nothing burger" because I do not choose to disclose my wife and my children's identities. I would also hope that people could respect that "the meat of a story" often times is not information that should ever be shared publicly to protect the innocent from more suffering. I loved the courage of the bishop to first resign and then to attempt to offer an explanation. Even though he may have said "I don't want to wear a silly shirt when I serve my community" I think he is so hurt by his story that he struggled to contain his anger, but I saw a man who did his best to say farewell. I pray that he remains a member of the family of God and will be saved and redeemed just like all of us who fell with Adam and Eve and who need a Savior. John 3:16 from an active and very faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I love all my brothers and sisters and I love that Ward Radio is Courageously Creating Content to help our heavenly family. High Yaw, Hee Yaw, Sincerely, Aaron "Wild Watticus" Watts Formerly of the Cypress Stake and the Mueller Park Stake in Bountiful and currently looking for a permanent home and a new ward to join without my 5 children and my wife.

@@TJa2874 do you know something we don’t?

That is untrue…and if you know that, it’s a LIE

Ignore Kris, yes anyone with a reasonable knowledge and testimony can see right through the CES letter.

You’re right Kris. The BoM is like “lord of the rings” but basing a religion off of it. Both clearly fictional. the CES letter is still alive and well.

@@wendyfoster5579 A “Testimony” does not trump Truth and Facts. The Challenges to the Original CES Letter were addressed. There is a Rebuttal to the Rebuttal to it.

@@wendyfoster5579 The Problem for TBMs and The Church is that suppressed TRUTHS and FACTS became fully accessible and discussed via The Internet. I was (am) A Lifer and never heard about moneydigging or seerstones/Rock in a Hat. Never heard Joseph married YOUNG GIRLS. Never read the Nauvoo Expositor and believed The Church when it said it was untrue. I had never heard of or read The 1832 First Version of The First Vision, suppressed until outed then ignored.

he sin and admitted that later on mormon podcast, thats why he left,

Yes

🤔🤔🤔

Yep, sounds like he's confused in his testimony 😢

I was about to post on this… he doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ … he believes the inner Christ in all…

Luke 27 21 neither shall they say lo here or lo there for behold the kingdom of heaven is within Your words disgraceful Yeah instead of going out and enjoying the amazing beauty of a natural world created with love the pagan practice the vampire 🧛🏻☠️RICHual of pretending to eat my body and drink my blood Proverbs 8;36 "those that hATE me the love dEATh" the AGE of ATE & a stiff neck'd 👔 people and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹 they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters to their alter ego and their DIEt of dEATh burnt offer sacrifice 🥶 And they speak their magic spells Temple Deadication They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death Temple = bode "body" the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body "those that hATE me they love death" the LAW OF moses A WOLF first introduced in the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals Later written on the paper of dead trees "Those that hATE me they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36 D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult WAR'D members CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son Sol die rs sun die ours son die r Killing the light of the world Sold your soul soldier To whoo 🦉🔥 ? Lucifer Devil Serpent black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak "pairable" magic spells mission ♈🐏 aries patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key they speak their magic spells and the people are deaf & blind of what they say i hear the words of your mouth ye pagan people

Another grifter

Maybe he feels overburdened. Why can one not resign and not have people question like you. He got up. Said his thing so people like you don’t have to wonder. Take your judgement else where

​@Bazcole93 he can go ahead and renounce but why make an announcement about it, totally went anti and wanted to make the church look bad.

@@kenny-gee he recorded it then called those who stay “brainwashed”. I take him at that face value. I’m sympathetic to him leaving, to him not believing in the gospel of Christ as presented by the church Jesus Christ of LDS. The recording and his comments after are where I’m pressing my judgement on his intent. Nobody, nobody records it and spreads it if there isn’t a hidden angle.

@@kenny-gee he is the one that decided to use a public forum, which was very uncouth. And attention seeking.

WAH WAH WAH.... he took 7 mins to say Bye and Why

@@krismurphy7711you’re on every reply. Lol 😂

@@TyleRMatin6532 I’ve got time and interest. I’m like a LDS Missionary….knock on every door

​@@lukev483but he said nothing. It didn't clarify anything.

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

He wants to talk to us? Sure! We'll do it. If you know anything our channel,nyou know we'll talk to anyone.

@Wardradio I can’t wait to watch your faith crisis video down the road when you actually realize the truth. Then all of us non morons will treat you the same way as you did in this video. I thought Mormons are suppose to be non judgmental. Just wait…you all will have your turn. Karma is a bitch!!!!

Awesome! Yes, he said in his interview with Mormons Stories Podcast that he would love to come on your show, reach out and have him on

Go away James… we have more integrity in one minute than all your ex-Mormon anti-Mormon buddies have in their lifetimes.

@@WARDRADIO You have limited integrity. Your show is just a Mish mass of cackling ad hominems. I would love to see someone have a show constantly mocking your looks and beliefs

1. Yes, I agree. in fact Jesus should have stayed out of the temple where the rightious were simply following the beautiful traditions that slowly crept into the temple. Jesus should have respected the order of things and not spoken up or disrupted what was so comfortable and part of their worship. 2. I agree, he should write a book like Jeremy Runnels and explain in detail his concerns so we can bash him real good and really tear him apart.

@ericredd4544 1. I know exactly what Jesus was overturning the money change tables in the temple for. This guy's reason for protest is incredibly ambiguous and generic. 2. Don't assume that too soon. He may very well write a book.

@@shawndeanmackenzie 1. those in the temple were the rightious Jews and condemed Jesus for being a disruptor. 2. If he does write a book you will get your wish. Start collecting stones, your don't want to get caught without oil in your lamp and stones in you purse.

@ericredd4544 1. Yes, the Jews in the temple were not fond of Jesus overturning the tables of their money grift. I fail to see how that's related to the discussion here. We have no idea why this bishop decided to leave, and so publicly. 2. I don't know what "stones" you're referring to, but is this some kind of peak snowflake mentality where you think the guy's words should not be subject to rational criticism?

@@shawndeanmackenzie I know you fail to see and that is what concerns me. I am not camparing this guy to Jesus but, you cannot comprehend that he is leaving because of the church has become corrupt. I know there is no use arguing with you but, the true nature of the church is slowly being revealed, its history and changing doctrine. It hides abuse and protects abusers. It desires wealth and yet hides it from its members. You think the church is the measure of good and fail to see the evil that you are wrapped in and you end up defending the wrong side.

Another point to remember that we, as those living in western societies and countries where the restored gospel has been established, we have we warned that there is that time where the 'great apostacy' will come from within the church. While we may see a falling away of members in western societies, as with Christianity in general, we are seeing tremendous growth in countries where the gospel has been withheld until recently. Also, living downunder and meeting many missionaries from all over the world gives me hope in the future of church leadership. I have faith in the young people of today.

Well said

@@robertstanley3832 LOL No. I'm going to assume he is talking about people who left during the life of Joseph Smith during Kirtland and Nauvoo. However, I guess it would apply to people who didn't go west either.

lol people are abandoning the circus show that is Mormonism cuz they’re realizing what a JOKE it is

@@alexandertwol The only joke is someone like you who thinks they know what they are talking about but their talking points never stand under scrutiny and have been debunked time and time again.

I think after his YEARS OF SERVICE, he's ENTITLED to a Goodbye and Why.

@@krismurphy7711 yep

I’m totally with you on him doing a goodbye to his ward. Vaguely implying the immorality of the rest of the church in his exit was weird. Calling the helping hands shirts silly was insulting and confusing, because it implied he was also leaving the church. Other than that I think most of what he said in the testimony meeting was fine. The real issue is that it was recorded, and then posted and he didn’t do anything to try to get it taken down. Then it’s not about his ward at that point, is it?

@@bradwitbeck true dat

But he didn't say a darn thing. He only caused more confusion.

Same kind of paper that The Book of Mormon was created on.

😅😂 totally agree

@krismurphy7711 🙄 great stretch.

Don’t you find that to be a little assumptive? I mean, maybe he was on his way out but do you know him personally well enough to know that at all? Also, “some guy of no importance” … seems a little harsh even if directed at someone we disagree with. 😢

Does thinking that way help you sleep better at night?

Beautifully said 👍

You didn’t sign up for the church at all you were coerced into it at an age where children still believe in Santa Claus

Exactly

@@lukev483 you believe in the book of mormon? Yeah you're a conspiracy theorist too

He doesn’t seem very good at his previous calling (bishop) because he should have properly used the audio system.

​@SidVranes 😂😂😂

They still film in our ward ever since Covid.

Yeah instead of going out and enjoying the amazing beauty of a natural world created with love the pagan practice the vampire 🧛🏻☠️RICHual of pretending to eat my body and drink my blood Proverbs 8;36 "those that hATE me the love dEATh" the AGE of ATE & a stiff neck'd 👔 people and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹 they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters to their alter ego and their DIEt of dEATh burnt offer sacrifice 🥶 And they speak their magic spells Temple Deadication They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death Temple = bode "body" the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body "those that hATE me they love death" the LAW OF moses A WOLF first introduced in the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals Later written on the paper of dead trees "Those that hATE me they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36 D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult WAR'D members CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son Sol die rs sun die ours son die r Killing the light of the world Sold your soul soldier To whoo 🦉🔥 ? Lucifer Devil Serpent black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak "pairable" magic spells mission ♈🐏 aries patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key they speak their magic spells and the people are deaf & blind of what they say i hear the words of your mouth ye pagan people

Beautifully said. I'm right there with you!

George P. Lee was a pedo-pervert. His attacks against the leaders were baseless. He did a plea deal and got off easy. He abused his position of Church authority to take advantage of an innocent little girl for years. The leaders did right by excommunicating him.

Hey, it's a free world. If you want to believe in and follow a liar, fraud, conman, criminal, pedophile, adulterer, confidence man, guilty of multiple State and Federal crimes... feel free. When I found out about ALL OF THIS, I knew in 2 seconds what THE REAL SITUATION/TRUTH/FACTS WERE-WAS.

We have a saying at work that no one else is here to pay your mortgage. People treat their spiritual obligations with less concern than their temporal ones.

WHO has fallen into error? LDS Prophet Spencer W Kimball actually said from the pulpit, that Native American kids in LDS Homes were experiencing a change to THEIR SKIN COLOR and that it was getting lighter…Whiter.

It's all been prophesied. Which side are you going to be on is the question

If only someone could tell him that Jesus is enough...

The idea is completely backwards. Firstly, it sounds prideful. A better version is "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me". Second, it indicates a satisfaction with one's state. Until our calling and election is made sure we there is always room for improvement. We are warned against that complacency from "all is well in Zion..." to "eat drink and be merry...". Instead, we should live by the gospel of repentance.

"I am enough" is wokeism for "I don't need to repent or grow and I don't need the Atonement of Jesus Christ." Only perfect man was Jesus Christ!

lol. Guilty as charged…

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But that should have been a private discussion with his stake president. The church down not publicly shame people and had he resigned privately, literally no one would know more then he was released.

The history only convinces me more and more how true it all is.

@@WARDRADIO that’s great for you! Definitely makes defending the faith a lot more fun! Many choose to leave over it and that’s great for them too!

Some people might not have realized how intense membership in the church is, and they might leave. But breaking promises is usually not a great life strategy.

@@WARDRADIO and some people *cough Mormons cough* are way too judgemental.

Read it ALL in The Bible already.

I love the popcorn line😂, and I'm with you just watching it all come to pass,

Your words disgraceful Yeah instead of going out and enjoying the amazing beauty of a natural world created with love the pagan practice the vampire 🧛🏻☠️RICHual of pretending to eat my body and drink my blood Proverbs 8;36 "those that hATE me the love dEATh" the AGE of ATE & a stiff neck'd 👔 people and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹 they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters to their alter ego and their DIEt of dEATh burnt offer sacrifice 🥶 And they speak their magic spells Temple Deadication They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death Temple = bode "body" the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body "those that hATE me they love death" the LAW OF moses A WOLF first introduced in the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals Later written on the paper of dead trees "Those that hATE me they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36 D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult WAR'D members CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son Sol die rs sun die ours son die r Killing the light of the world Sold your soul soldier To whoo 🦉🔥 ? Lucifer Devil Serpent black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak "pairable" magic spells mission ♈🐏 aries patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key they speak their magic spells and the people are deaf & blind of what they say i hear the words of your mouth ye pagan people

​@@lukev483 Seriously? 😂

​@@krismurphy7711bible has some things but a lot was taken out..also creeds ruined peoples knowledge of the truth

You feel strongly about this. What is your fear about him speaking to the ward?

Precisely, so I return to my livestream question then...where were this Ward's remaining Bishopric counselors, EQ President, and other Stake leadership members? Mics should have been muted and disruptors removed from the premises or other church premises. If people want to behave like petulant children, feel free to do it somewhere else rather than distract any of us trying to focus on the central purpose of the meeting by renewing our covenants and partaking of the sacrament ordinance.

@@polynikes2000 you feel as though this bishop was behaving like a "petulant child"?

if so then stake leaders lack discernment if not then stake leaders feel the righteousness of this man and hiz love Luke 27 21 neither shall they say lo here or lo there for behold the kingdom of heaven is within Yeah instead of going out and enjoying the amazing beauty of a natural world created with love the pagan practice the vampire 🧛🏻☠️RICHual of pretending to eat my body and drink my blood Proverbs 8;36 "those that hATE me the love dEATh" the AGE of ATE & a stiff neck'd 👔 people and the scribes & priests & high priest have made their rendition of GOD into a GOD of animal and human sacrifice and build false temples with alters to their volcano 🌋 God 🔥👹 they built little volcano 🌋 replica alters to their alter ego and their DIEt of dEATh burnt offer sacrifice 🥶 And they speak their magic spells Temple Deadication They deceive with magic spells dedication while their spoken word speaks death Temple = bode "body" the cereMONY enunciATE a dead body "those that hATE me they love death" the LAW OF moses A WOLF first introduced in the form of 2 stone tablets the form of tombstones 🪦🪦 one each for Adam & Eve Later written on the parchment skin of dead animals Later written on the paper of dead trees "Those that hATE me they love death" ☠️ proverbs 8;36 D.C.eivers 🏛️ deceiving the world Roman 🏛️ 🗡️ Egyptian 👁️∆ D.C. Death Cult WAR'D members CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS SOL = sun = 👂🏻 son Sol die rs sun die ours son die r Killing the light of the world Sold your soul soldier To whoo 🦉🔥 ? Lucifer Devil Serpent black magic spells free dumb "freedom" because it makes the people deaf of what words they speak "pairable" magic spells mission ♈🐏 aries patriarch 💵 paytreeon 🐍 pay tree our key they speak their magic spells and the people are deaf & blind of what they say i hear the words of your mouth ye pagan people

@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual he was a big child, you really cant see what he was trying to do?

Why would you support these bullies?

Hey there!

@@timmiestabrnak nice try Daniel… but your crybully tactics won’t work here.

Can’t wait! Then we will all have the answers. But of course he will be picked apart like he is being here and every Mormon will find justification and excuses even if he spells it out. No one will respect his own testimony and reasons for doing what he did. Because he’s a threat to the Mormon community.

😂

Other Luke keeps stealing my identity 😂

@@lukehanson_ Glad you’re setting the record straight!

Good point.

exactly

Perhaps there was damage being done to the youth (sexual assault) that the Stake Pres. said you can't tell local authorities or else and he could not swallow that morally. That's why he calls out to stand up to injustice in the world.

Considering 80% of our youth leave the church by their mid 20s now and that rate is accelerating, and he comments there are hardly any youth left, perhaps he was speaking to being asked as a bishop to do the things that drive them away rather than making it safe for them to stay. He spoke to them about maintaining integrity and speaking up when they have concerns. Those are crucial skills for being able to stay in the church long-term and feeling that you have integrity and will be heard and understood rather than so alienated that you have to leave.

I’m glad you mentioned the effect this will have on the youth of the ward, especially the young men he was working with. His public takedown of the church over the pulpit is completely inappropriate. He will be held accountable for the souls who leave the church after hearing his “anti testimony.”

Easy to be brave when the other side keeps their oaths...

That's a valid theory, it makes all his confusing statements make sense.

That's an incredibly large leap to make with absolutely no evidence to support it. You can't just say things.

@jmut714 well let's look at what he did say. He said his parents didn't love him, check. He said that he was abused at fsy, check. So 2/3 of what I said is a fact. My leap was connecting event 1 and 2 to what is going on currently (3rd). And, yes, I can say whatever I want. Welcome to America. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

@@jamesreed2475 He didn't say his parents didn't love him. He said his parents never told him he was enough, that their love was contingent on his actions and not who he was. Where are you getting that he was abused at fsy? Nowhere in the video did I hear that. And even if he did "break", the Christlike response is not to dissect why he broke or shame him for it. It's to extend compassion and support in a surely very difficult moment of his life. This whole comment section reminds me of a particular scripture: "Their lips draw near unto me, but their hearts are far from me."

@jmut714 you either didn't listen to the whole video or you weren't paying enough attention. I'm certainly not going to go back and time stamp it for you but you should attentively rewatch. He mentioned fsy as being where kids are brainwashed and said it was where he was first abused. The guys even paused and talked about that. He may have said his parents did care about him or for him. Which to me is didn't love him or love him well.

But when antiMormons destroy faith, it send people into nihilism. Not that they ever care...

​@WARDRADIO I don't believe in sending people into nihilism either, so what in the world are you talking about?

My heart breaks for him regarding his parents.

My empathy flew out the window once I realized he asked his ex-mo brother to come to the meeting to record his "release trash talk on church leadership" and then post it on the ex-mo subreddit. No. I have no empathy for a Bishop who knows better. He's got an axe to grind and misused his authority to grind it.

@@davidfrey5654 I’m mixed on that. Im disgusted by that for sure… but the dude obvious has demons even if those demons are the deconstructing of his faith and loss of belief. Respect to you, Brother.

Yes, most likely. But its obviously more than that. He was on his way out of the church.

why would that make him an exmo though? abandoning all beliefs wouldnt be a response to that

@@SaxSpy maybe you have more information than I have. I'm not convinced he's an exmo.

@@robinpauleota4773 his second video said he was

Maybe it has something to do with his wife.?.?. That would be so so difficult!

I'm sure you believe Joseph Smith was a true prophet, too.

You cannot prove one way or another to anyone. Everyone must come to know for themselves

Can you really not guess? What are bishops asked to do to youth? Interrogate and judge their worthiness every six months and punish them if they don't meet the church's expectations, including never ever masturbating. If they are too honest they will be publicly humiliated by being barred from passing the sacrament or taking it and barred from the next temple trip with the other youth. Or maybe he didn't like telling the destitute they must pay tithing and put themselves through the humiliation of the welfare system to still feed their children and keep a roof over their heads. Bishops who leave the church talk about the main reasons they could not facilitate those systems anymore, as do the people on the receiving end of them who leave the church. It's not a mystery.

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​@@mormoncivilwar6189I love how people honestly think that the Lord expects nothing of us. I've reviewed so many blessings from the law of chastity and tithing.

@@DaGolfViking I did not say anything about God not expecting anything of us. The issue is what precisely the Church asks bishops to expect of us and whether that is ethical or compatible with Christ's teaching. For example, Jesus taught that we should 'render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's' in terms of taxes and financial obligations to the state yet the First Presidency and Presiding Bishopric broke several laws hiding their financial assets from the Securities and Exchange Commission and intentionally misleading them in the legal paperwork they were meant to submit, and a Presiding Bishopric member recently boasted in a National newspaper that they put inaccurate information on their IRS tax return forms because they don't think it is the government's business to know what their assets are. Just because the LDS Church does something doesn't make it right. The Bishop who left has since explained that as well as the things I suggested the turning point for him came when he was told by his Church leaders not to stop a proven child predator hanging around the children in his ward. Members and leaders of the LDS Church for decades do not leave on a whim or because they don't think God or the religious life shouldn't require anything difficult of us. It is usually because they realise and experience how much the Church expects that is contradictory to the values the church taught them God prioritises.

You’re trying sooooo hard. A for effort, kiddo.

@@WARDRADIO good point?

He’s not interesting enough to start his own podcast. I think he’ll make his rounds, get his fifteen minutes, and never be heard from again. I wish I knew more about him, but I’ve got my own testimony and family to work on and to support to care anymore about him. I wish the best for him and his family, and that ward.

They are nice little earners.

Your comment is one of few actually expressing anything resembling Christianity in a whole comment section full of Christians. Terrible people here.

So instead of 7 minutes you wished he had taken up the entire meeting? HOW YOU WOULD HOWL ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!

Very possible. He is definitely throwing out bread crumbs so ppl will ask him what he really meant.

I agree! To reduce his cognitive dissonance, he has to convince others to leave with him. Just like the ex-mos who post here. They can’t leave quietly. They think they are “saving” us.

@KMJ-yi2lf ...standing up in a sunday church service to tell the members you reject their faith is hardly loving...

No he shouldn't have, the Bishop didn't say he resigned, he said he asked to be released, which means he was still the Bishop and still the person presiding at the meeting.

Try being a bishop

​@@harambeboysure. he didnt. ive met his shaky types

​@@lukev483that's not an insult like you think it is. There's nothing wrong with using your brain to think of alternate explanations to a thing

😂😂

Yeah those were hilarious

YOU ASSume that this was his First Step. Hardly.

@@krismurphy7711 Whether his first or not, the comment is still valid. Turning to man instead of God.

@@bartonbagnes4605 HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW? You Assume that going to God generates a specific outcome.

@@krismurphy7711 I'm going to assume you meant outcome not income. For the humble the outcome is always the same, though customized for individuals and their situations. For those who aren't humble, the outcome is always the same, confusion and misery. They may get momentary pleasure from the flesh, a high from drugs or the pleasure of thinking they one upped someone in a conversation, but then they have to wait through the lows between, for the next diminishing "high".

@@bartonbagnes4605 yes. Outcome. Alzheimer’s!! Lol

Spot on.

Yeah: more Tember Harward, pòr favòr!

Why not rush to love and support him?

@@harambeboy Many of us have family who have left and we DO rush to love, but they didn’t and don’t do it theatrically and for clicks like this man. He’s only giving a hard on to JD types.

@@spencerharward4884 are you related to him?

Good for you, getting up there again! Sometimes we need ministering, but later on you'll be the one doing the ministering. Ether 12. We all need help sometimes, but the Church provides the venue that we can give help too. Nice work. Thanks for speaking.

Just a typical case of "he wasn't spiritual enough" huh?

Wrong Luke, thank you. Though I was just kidding, it was too tempting not to say it though