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Reaction To What Made The Netherlands Great (Johan de Witt Speech)
This is my reaction to What Made The Netherlands Great (Johan de Witt Speech)
In this video I react to Dutch culture and Dutch history by reacting to part of a movie called Michiel de Ruyter which features a speech from Dutch statesman Johan de Witt about the things that make Netherlands a great country.
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@MLWitteman
@MLWitteman 19 дней назад
It’s a great movie to watch, for Dutch standards. With some really great actors like Rutger Hauer & Charles Dance. The movie is about the greatest admiral in Dutch, and maybe world history: Michiel de Ruyter. Johan de Witt was the leader of the Dutch Republic during that time period. It was the peak of Dutch power on the world stage, commonly known as the Dutch Golden Age. It all ended in the Disaster Year of 1672. When the combined forces of the English, French & two German states tried to invade the Netherlands. The failed, but it brought an end to the Dutch Golden Age. Great videos about the Dutch Golden Age, with English subtitles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gxeVym3e2Lc.htmlsi=PUs4E_0aA6Vajxex About Michiel de Ruyter: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JywKL4O_ALE.htmlsi=blUToIk5Uf3h9mvF
@larsrademakers6070
@larsrademakers6070 19 дней назад
I do believe they missed some of the ruyters greatest moments
@MLWitteman
@MLWitteman 19 дней назад
@@larsrademakers6070 indeed, his story is much crazier compared to what they show in the movie.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter 19 дней назад
The Dutch Republic was founded on freedom of conscience (of how to believe in god) in the 1580s, not on a republican ideology. Since the Northern Netherlands agreed about religious tolerance it became an 80-years war against the religious intolerant Spanish overlord for independence rather than a religious war like elsewhere in Europe. Freedom of thought and print, more than half of Europe's books were printed in the Dutch Republic, followed from that. The Netherlands is not still a monarchy, it became a monarchy after the Napoleontic occupation on British request. Monarchy and monarchists were out of the question because of legitimacy and the divine right of kings. The founders of the Dutch Republic hadn't declared the king, Philip II of Spain, illigetemate nor monarchy in general, but they claimed inalienable rights and the rigt of the people to resist a tyrant. Philip II was declared to have left the throne himself by becoming a tyrant, a legal bypass that was kind of repeated to take the English throne in 1688 by Willem III of Orange. So the Orangists were not really monarchists. Orangists would be the "Prince minded" vs the "Staten-minded". The "Staten" was the name for the Dutch parliaments of each of the 7 Netherlands/provinces. Those wanted the Dutch Republic as a loose federation, resulting in the richest and most powerful Holland province calling the shots mostly, allthough there was a united parliement too called the Staten-Generaal. DeWitt was the de facto leader of the whole Dutch Republic but very much from and for Holland. The prince minded wanted a stadtholder (steward), traditonally a male of the Orange Nassua family and therefore prince in title of the principality of Orange in Southern France, so not a Dutch prince. It would mean a kind of hybrid republic though, with inheretance playing a role in state affairs. The stadtholder was a unifying figure for the republic and commander of the army, while Holland was reliant on the navy and didn't have to fear land invasions. This clip is from the first stadholderless era, the most republican era with DeWitt, a brilliant mind from a family of woodstackers, calling it the true freedom, a meritocracy without these nobles with their inhereted offices interfering, allthough the stadtholder was appointed by the Staten and not born into that job. The Dutch Republic was so powerful at this time that there was little dimplomatic gain in having a noble for foreing monarchies to deal with. The neglect of DeWitt in defending the dry parts of the republic would cost him his life later on, when the Dutch Republic came a the brink of annihilation in 1672. The Orangists won in that sense, Willem III was appointed stadtholder and to prevent England, France and Germans teaming up against the Dutch Republic ever again, the Staten decided to invade England and let Willem take the throne and turn it into a lasting ally. Allthough he modernized Britain into a proper rival in trade, the Dutch Republic during DeWitt's reign was ridiculously modern for it's time and world changing too. Britain became much more like the then Orangist Dutch Republic with the current constitutional monarchy and bill of rights as the direct result of the invasion.
@HyPnOsS1933
@HyPnOsS1933 19 дней назад
@@DenUitvreter wat denk je over de huidige geloofs overtuigingen ?
@maplelafe7671
@maplelafe7671 18 дней назад
Lekker kortbondige reactie pikkebaas 👌
@Be-Es---___
@Be-Es---___ 18 дней назад
That 'invasion ' was on request of English nobles that didn't want a catholic king. Not much if an invasion. His wife was heir to the throne. I don't think he had much influence.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter 18 дней назад
@@Be-Es---___ No, Willem demanded to be invited otherwise he wouldn't do it, while the Staten-Generaal already had an invasion fleet build. His wife was not the heir to the throne, that's why the legitimate king had to be removed by force to prevent England remaining a catholic ally to France now the king had a son born. The king fled to France with a nosebleed before the big battle but he still was removed by force and that force did not come from English nobles, not from Mary and not even from Willem, that force consisting of a fleet bigger than the Armada and a 40.000 army was organized and paid for by the parliament of the Dutch Republic and had the stadtholder as the commander. They tried to make it look like a somewhat regular and legitimate succession, but it wouldn't have happened with a military invasion and subsequent occupation of London.
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 18 дней назад
YES I have seen the movie as a dutch person but the buit about the vicinity of the mudser of the Witt;s end of De Ruyter in the movie were bad a s shyte portrayed.
@RutgertheFarmer
@RutgertheFarmer 19 дней назад
It is a really great movie! And the timeperiod should also be extra interesting to you, as the film focuses on the war between England and the Republic of the Netherlands, it also features Willem van Oranje III, who was also the king of England, Scotland and Ireland for a period of time. Go watch it when you can, it is an excellent historical drama-action movie. I believe the movie is also viewable under the English title 'The Admiral' :).
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 18 дней назад
YES I have seen the movie as a dutch person but the buit about the vicinity of the mudser of the Witt;s end of De Ruyter in the movie were bad a s shyte portrayed.
@roodborstkalf9664
@roodborstkalf9664 19 дней назад
Both Johan de Witt and WIlliam III were great men. De Witt led the United Provinces between 1650 and 1672. During this time UP was at his richest. He was finished off by a combined attack by France, England, Cologne and Münster, after which the prince of Orange WIlliam III took over until 1702.
@jeroenvangastel9079
@jeroenvangastel9079 19 дней назад
Willem was responsible for the death of the brothers de Witt
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 18 дней назад
YES I have seen the movie as a dutch person but the buit about the vicinity of the mudser of the Witt;s end of De Ruyter in the movie were bad a s shyte portrayed.
@mennovroom5537
@mennovroom5537 19 дней назад
It is a very good movie about Michiel de Ruyter, his attack on the English navies fleet at Medway and Disaster year 1672. The young republic was attack from all sides, people were afraid and very angry at Johan and Cornelius De Wit. An angry mob ended there lives in a horrific way, they were slain. It happened very close to the official goverment building that is still in use today. A cutoff tonque and finger are still on display in The Haque. ps. Throughout Dutch history freedom is something every Dutchman holds dear to there hearts. This goes back to the viking age when Charlemagne wanted to control the Netherlands. The Frisians (north netherlands) did not like thar idea, they travelled to Rome, kidnapped the Pope and demanded there own freedom.
@BramVanhooydonck
@BramVanhooydonck 19 дней назад
Spoiler alert: Johan de Witt got cannibalised by an orangist mob.
@itomg
@itomg 18 дней назад
I do believe this speech does paint the characteristics of the Dutch. There have been forces that tried to change this and even today forces like that are at work. But I have reason to hope and believe that those deeply rooted believes and mentality will survive the tides of time. It has become part of our DNA. It would be good to watch and listen to this speech every couple of years to remind us who we really are.
@TheBryan482
@TheBryan482 18 дней назад
Watching this makes me proud to be dutch
@raamjames1
@raamjames1 19 дней назад
My Dutch relatives set sail for America at this time.
@maplelafe7671
@maplelafe7671 18 дней назад
Some times i imagine that yourney they made. Must have been terefying. I live across the Pelgrimchurch in Rotterdam . From here a lot of Europeans went across the big oceans. The Founding Fathers moves from here to South Hampton on to America.
@raamjames1
@raamjames1 18 дней назад
@maplelafe7671 my 3rd great grandfather Vogelaar was born in Maasdam. The family farm was in StAnthoniepolder and they set sail for the US in 1848. He ended up in a grass house in South Dakota like Dances With Wolves. We've since settled in West Michigan.
@maplelafe7671
@maplelafe7671 18 дней назад
@@raamjames1 Maasdam is about 9 miles from Rotterdam . Great possibility they sailed from Rotterdam. Fun fact my Father was Captain on the oceanliner Maasdam from the Holland America Line H.A.L in the fifties.
@xFionna
@xFionna 19 дней назад
why is the video all stretchy, kind of annoying to watch along like that
@lostzwolf7269
@lostzwolf7269 19 дней назад
What i don't get.. Is why you have not moved here yet. I mean you make a lot of dutch related content. And you praise our country often for its qualities. So why not move here ?
@Syposaurus
@Syposaurus 18 дней назад
If you want a 80 years war song from the netherlands that gets the dutch patriotic blood pumping, check out the song called "Merck toch hoe sterck". Translation: "Notice how strong/powerful"
@hansduijn1797
@hansduijn1797 18 дней назад
React to Defqon 1. 2022 endshow. I promise: it’s mindblowing
@marcelrenes2435
@marcelrenes2435 17 дней назад
The problem is that it's fictional. He did'nt make this speech but when you combine his speeches together it makes sence. This is what he beleived. And about Great Brittain, they lost what power they had when they voted for Brexit. The biggest mistake in its history.
@Treinbouwer
@Treinbouwer 19 дней назад
6:31 Orangist (prinsgezinden) were in favour of the orange family, which later became the royal family. 'Republicans' (not my favourite translation of staatsgezinden) were in favour of the aristocrats and wanted to get rid of the Orange family. Republicans does not make any sense, since non of above wanted to get rid of the Republic, they had a dispute about the position of the nobility (especially the prince of Orange as leader of the army with a habit of trying to gain power) and the faith in the Republic. The 'republicans' were in favour of free trade, used a less strict interpretation of the bible and preferred to limit the power of the nobility in favour of the aristocracy (themselves), the orangists were tougher on the faith wanting their strict interpretation of the bible to be the faith of the state, wanted more money to be invested into the army and more power to be given to the Prince. The kingdom was found in the 19th century.
@ferryspeksnijder1972
@ferryspeksnijder1972 9 дней назад
In all honesty... This movie can be put on show in any educational environment on a lot of different classes, not just as a history movie..
@Satyr42
@Satyr42 7 дней назад
The Orangists (Oranjegezinden) where the monarchists of that time.
@DeKempster
@DeKempster 19 дней назад
And then we ate him
@rafox66
@rafox66 19 дней назад
"Ik heb z'n lul!"
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 18 дней назад
YES I have seen the movie as a dutch person but the bit about the vicinity of the mudser of the Witt;s end of De Ruyter in the movie were bad a s shyte portrayed.
@user-wf6is9kf2u
@user-wf6is9kf2u 19 дней назад
I am Dutch and watched this clip so many times. I always get goosebumps of pride and tears in my eyes. Also because that Netherlands is gone. Like every European country we have lots of migrants. And that erodes the identity of a country. In our cities you can only speak English. I am proud of our history, not with our present.
@Be-Es---___
@Be-Es---___ 18 дней назад
The Netherlands, back then, was filled with immigrants from France, Belgium Portugal, and Spain. Rich and poor. It was so successful BECAUSE of all those immigrants. They came because of our freedom.
@anouk6644
@anouk6644 18 дней назад
@@Be-Es---___Exactly!
@verdikulk6193
@verdikulk6193 14 дней назад
​@@Be-Es---___there is a difference between migration and mass-migration....
@Goregreet
@Goregreet 19 дней назад
Idk i always say what i want Never had any problems
@vydrakkzorxe
@vydrakkzorxe 19 дней назад
Aaaaand then England and France invaded us, and we ate de Witt. 😅
@yvonnecampbell7036
@yvonnecampbell7036 18 дней назад
Shhhhh.... ;)
@yvonnegeerdink7607
@yvonnegeerdink7607 18 дней назад
Even more proud after seen this video 😊😊
@HyPnOsS1933
@HyPnOsS1933 19 дней назад
Didn’t he got eaten and torn apart ? 😅
@rolebo1
@rolebo1 18 дней назад
Yes, he and his brother got lynched by militia and partially eaten by a mob of Orangists.
@HyPnOsS1933
@HyPnOsS1933 13 дней назад
@@rolebo1 was toch in Den Haag waar al die politici elke dag lopen Het Binnenhof
@jasper46985
@jasper46985 19 дней назад
Although its a fictional speech, it where words told in parlement at the time of the Spanish ruler. I dont see as much regression in freedom of speech in the Netherlands as in the UK. But.. we see political differences in policing and freedom today. The (far) left wing is free'er then the (far) right. It worrys me.
@LeafHuntress
@LeafHuntress 19 дней назад
Which regression in the UK?(you are likely to believe something that isn't true) ONE! the term "Freedom of Speech" is an Americanism. In Europe it never existed like that, the UK has "Freedom of Expression." TWO! every frozen peaches warrior is always lying, because each & everyone of them doesn't believe in an absolute FoS, if i were to tell another in these comments that i'd like to pay for them to put a hit out on you, you too wouldn't like that & oppose it, so put a sock in your whole FoS, it's nonsense in the absolute term, even in the USA, yelling fire in a theatre & all that. THREE! in the UK people who posted addresses & time & dates & the utterance that the people there should befall something utterly horrid. This is & always has been illegal & it doesn't matter if you do that online or in person. Go read the Declaration of Human Rights & be glad that it exists, for you, but in kind, also for EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING.
@jgjtpw
@jgjtpw 19 дней назад
The "Prince of Orange" was the first elected king in the Netherlands. At that time, they had an issue between orangists and republicans (a bit like the issues in France with Napoleon). Some people thought the king had too much "power", so they gave him a ceremonial role instead, while others wanted the king to rule the country. Nowadays, the king represents the "voice of the people" and is part of the "checks and balances". With a republic, you can replace the premier if you don't like his style. But nothing prevents that person from pushing his political agenda and becoming a dictator. With this setup, if the king does not agree with something, the prime minister has to convince the king to sign the paperwork. So, the parliament is republican, but the head of state is a monarchy.
@jgjtpw
@jgjtpw 19 дней назад
Also, fun fact: He got lynched and eaten...
@jsb7975
@jsb7975 19 дней назад
The fact that the dutch are indeed a bit 'straightforward' still has to do with the 'republican' emancipated background. In that way it still distinguishes itself from other countries in Europe. P.s. Willem of Orange was, though being a prince, the first stad (or state)holder. So not a king. For more than 200 years the Netherlands was a republic (under the Orange stadholder dinasty; the current king is the descendant of that stadholder dinasty. (Stadholder is a kind of what we would call 'president' now) The Oranges live on since the beginning of the Dutch republic. (The second president (Adams) of the U.S came to live here in order to learn the legal practice of being a republic. Also Napoleon was inspired by the Dutch and gave it relative independence within his French empire. After that short period the Netherlands became, once the French were defeated, a kingdom under the son of the latest stadholder Willem five who fled to England. So the new king (1830 ?) was called Willem 1 of Orange The current king Willem-Alexander is actually Willem IV) 😍
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter 19 дней назад
Nonsense. He wasn't king but appointed stadtholder.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter 19 дней назад
@@jgjtpw RU-vid clickbait and completely false.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter 19 дней назад
@@jsb7975 Stadtholder/stadhouder means place holder as in steward. Willem (1) of Orange was steward to king Philips II for the Netherlands. He was doing the administrative affairs here while the king remained in Spain. He came to lead the rebellion, the king was declared to have left the throne by becoming a tyrant, so the steward without a king became the leader of the (Northern) Netherlands.
@ivowalvis9228
@ivowalvis9228 19 дней назад
Yes we are a proud people. Shame the extreme right won the elections recently. When the war in Ukraine started I felt like I wanted to go fight there, but my kids need me here, my people need me here, but when the Russian Nazi's come too close, I will fight, I already have PTSD, so I have no fear to die for my country.
@DaveJansenTPV
@DaveJansenTPV 19 дней назад
The extreme right didn't win the recent elections, just the right.
@Snaakie83
@Snaakie83 19 дней назад
Had the same feeling, and I'm a lifelong pacifist. I'd rather fight myself than seeing my siblings having to, while they have families.
@AwoudeX
@AwoudeX 18 дней назад
-extreme right won Categorically false, the globalists lost, local interests won, that doesn't make the ideas that won, extreme except for maybe 1 part that goes against the constitution, but that part has been abandoned by those that now rule... -Russian Nazi's come too close Russians aren't nazi's, they're not rounding up Jews, they're not expanding for 'lebensraum', they have a similar casus belli that is WAY better grounded in reality compared to the invasion of Iraq too, but would you call Americans in the VS. nazi's too just to be consistent? Also they already have too much trouble with Ukraine (backed by a HUGE economic block, most NATO countries) for them to consider escalating the war further. In fact, it's been the west that consistently has expanded a diplomatic crisis to the point that war would become inevitable. to conclude: Ukraine is a super corrupt regime that bombed ethnic Russians since 2014 or 2015, had so called Azov brigades going after ethnic Russians like actual nazi's while parading around with swastika's and what not. Historians will have you on the wrong side when everything's settled.
@SmartRecap
@SmartRecap 12 дней назад
Still better then the extreme left, They really fucked up our country last couple of years f.e. D66 very dangerous organisations!
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 19 дней назад
The republicans in the 17th century were the traders, big navy, small army, new money, rich people. The orangists were in favor of a more authoritarian state, an King with a large army, and were supported by old money and the "ordinary" people.
@Busfles984
@Busfles984 19 дней назад
Were the actor says Dutch or Netherlands he means The 7 provinces of the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands (1579 to 1795), being Groningen, Friesland, Overijssel, Gelderland, Utrecht, Holland ( North + South) and Zeeland or the protestant people of those provinces. Catholics and Jews were systematically and officially discriminated by the Dutch Republic government until Napolean arrived at the start of the 19th century. Jews got civil rights at the end of the end of the 19th century. Relationships between christians and jews was criminalized in the Dutch Republic and people got jailed. Churches were taken from the catholics (given back in 1811) and they were forbiden to worship. Up to this day you can visit clandestine churches in several Dutch cities. The army of the republic regularly plundered towns and villages in catholic Brabant and Limbug.
@DenUitvreter
@DenUitvreter 19 дней назад
What a load of nonsense. The catholics wanted to convert or kill all catholics and jews, the protestants in charge tolerated catholics but not the catholic church as a world power, and jews were nowhere as welcome as in the Dutch Republic and were allowed to build the biggest Synagogue in the world there.
@LeafHuntress
@LeafHuntress 19 дней назад
Do put a sock in it. No matter how much you type this drivel again & again & again & again it doesn't make it true. The Netherlands was FOR THE TIME PERIOD extremely open-minded, including about religion. Jews were hunted in other countries & came to the Dutch Republic because it was safer for them. The BIG synagogues were actual tourist attractions & they participated in social life. Unlike in the UK, Spain or Eastern Europe where they had fled from the pogroms etc. For catholics the same. The Netherlands had freedom of religion in a crude sense, the first in this part of Europe, that a ruler couldn't assign a religion to a subject. So people could be catholic or muslim or lutheran. What they could NOT do was be extremely open about it. So catholic processions with all the bells & whistles were out. But silent processions still happened, see "de Stille Omgang" in Amsterdam. And there are indeed "schuilkerken" but if you imagine for one moment that people didn't know where these were & who went to them you are highly mistaken. So catholics could practise their religion, they weren't allowed to be LOUD about it. And yes, churches were handed over from catholics to protestant hands after sieges etc. This is also because people fled from the Southern Netherlands, Germany & France(the Huguenots!) to the Dutch Republic, so more & more protestants would live in these cities & were in need of churches. That isn't to say that no catholics died during this time, the 19 Martyrs of Gorkum are an example of this. The "other side" just about burnt any protestant they could get their hands on at the stake. This is also the problem with your last line; didn't you know there was a war on? The republic's army was, again in comparison with the others of that time period & the Spanish in particular, extremely lenient & often didn't plunder. Do read up on Gran Duque de Alba & his son Fadrique or about the campaigns of Francisco de Mendoza. Read about the "Spanischer Winter 1598/99" auf Deutsch, if you aren't inclined to believe Dutch sources. For people that would like to know more about the 80 years' war, there's an excellent video series by 'Defragged History' on the subject.
@ivowalvis9228
@ivowalvis9228 19 дней назад
There are royalists and democrates. So now we have a King, that has not much to say about government and two parlements that rule.
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