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Reading Icons 3: The How-Tos of an Icon Corner (Pencils & Prayer Ropes) 

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@BibleIllustrated
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@yourneighbour3309
@yourneighbour3309 11 месяцев назад
trying to convert thank you for this video!❤
@JohnDoe-sq3ok
@JohnDoe-sq3ok 9 месяцев назад
There was a Mormon ad before this video. It scares me how much influence that cult has. Saying prayers
@emeraldfrag
@emeraldfrag 7 месяцев назад
I got that same ad, they trick people to seem like regular Christianity
@IsaiahMiguel
@IsaiahMiguel 7 месяцев назад
I got it as well and this is the first comment I see
@kayaissimo
@kayaissimo 5 месяцев назад
I got this the same ad as well! lol
@cjbrewer3843
@cjbrewer3843 3 месяца назад
I pay to avoid ads for things like that haha
@WilliamJ-7610
@WilliamJ-7610 2 месяца назад
As someone who lives in Utah as an actual Christian, I am working overtime praying for those caught up in LDS shenanigans
@loverlei79
@loverlei79 3 года назад
I love how you "get" us converts.🤣 You nail it every time!
@Sam-ig9bj
@Sam-ig9bj Год назад
Literally 😅
@yourneighbour3309
@yourneighbour3309 11 месяцев назад
literally x2
@loverlei79
@loverlei79 3 года назад
Ps. I "saved" 2 icons from the floor of an antique store for $40. I didn't realize that they were both hand painted from Greece. It's not every day you get an original Greek Theotokos Icon and St Mark Icon for that price. Of course I'm not Greek so...i had to have the inscriptions translated. I Treasure them dearly.
@commissar1448
@commissar1448 Год назад
I've seen one icon corner I liked very much. Christ on the right, Theotokos on the left. Then the patron saints of the father and all sons on the right side, and the patron saints of the mother and all daughters on the left. I thought that was a neat concept
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Год назад
Ooh def is!
@stefanl3299
@stefanl3299 3 года назад
I correctly guessed on the community post that this would be a new Reading Icons video, for my reward I request an Icon of St. Iosif of Voldogrendsky-Novgorodorov the Great of Prussia.
@American-Jello
@American-Jello Год назад
😂😂😂
@posavka
@posavka 9 месяцев назад
🤣🤣
@sasquatchdonut2674
@sasquatchdonut2674 Год назад
As a catholic, I’m in the process of making a home altar combining the eastern and western traditions. Im going to have a wall of icons but on the altar itself there will be statuary and a Benedictine altar arrangement.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Год назад
Nice!
@diansc7322
@diansc7322 Год назад
what is a benedictine altar arrangement if I may ask
@sasquatchdonut2674
@sasquatchdonut2674 Год назад
@@diansc7322 sorry for the late answer but it’s like the type you typically see at the tlm with the six candles and crucifix in the middle. The 6 candles are in groups of 3 on each side of the crucifix
@petrosdorizas6814
@petrosdorizas6814 3 года назад
Saint Symeon the Strawman, I believe he knew Saint Gregory the Kettleblack and Saint John of the Slippery Slope.
@user-go4qn4zi6c
@user-go4qn4zi6c 3 года назад
Brother, greetings from the US. I appreciate your videos, and I thank you for the effort you put into them. May the Lord and Our Lady bless you. -Your Papist friend
@corjesu_1
@corjesu_1 2 года назад
I hope Sara gets better soon, may the mother of God be with her
@DarthJarJar6
@DarthJarJar6 3 месяца назад
The day before black friday, i saw a couple of icons. I stuffed them in the display washing machine, and went there the next day
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 месяца назад
What?
@TheAtlarchy
@TheAtlarchy 3 года назад
I love the strawman joke... it's a few days after I watched your video on tollhouses with my Godfather (historian and theologian member of a Monastic order... long story) who called you out on strawman arguments... he did enjoy your jokes however and I send you best wishes and blessings from us both!
@TheAtlarchy
@TheAtlarchy 3 года назад
Just in case anyone wanted to misinterpret my comment... I still love your videos and will keep watching them as they are very fun and well drawn! God Bless!
@violetrose415
@violetrose415 3 года назад
I missed your vids! Well, as a coptic christian, I never grew up with the concept of icon corners at all We don't have that concept, thinking about it:D We have icons everywhere in the home really, scattered I like the concept behind the icon corner, but never grew up with it
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 года назад
Really?! I've never encountered a Copt before! As for me, I'm an American Protestant by birth, but I've been attending a Greek Orthodox church. I don't own any icons yet, (I haven't had the chance to get one,) but I do have a small area in my home where I pray. I have a Bible, a cross, and a couple of candles that I light. It's actually really helped me pray more often and more consistently, so I thank God for that. I wanted to ask, do Copts use Prayer Rules or prayer books? Just curious.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
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@westernorthodoxprayersandd7205
@westernorthodoxprayersandd7205 3 года назад
Beautiful work once again, Bojan. I absolutely died laughing at 3:56. Also I came up with the snarky "icon pile" to refer to my friends who add things haphazardly as they're obtained.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
LOL Icon pile! I'll use that one!
@marcustulliuscicero9512
@marcustulliuscicero9512 Год назад
"icon corners should face east" *Me setting up one in my van "Hmmmmm"
@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st
@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st 8 месяцев назад
Well then I hope you can park your van appropriately during prayer ☺️
@alidaweber1023
@alidaweber1023 5 месяцев назад
I've lived in an RV for nearly two decades. You don't really have any control over which lots will be available for rental in the RV parks where you will be staying.
@bogdanrab1350
@bogdanrab1350 3 года назад
Bojan I love your videos and the humor fits perfectly. Keep it up and God bless you !
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Thank you so much! 😃 God bless you too!
@dovganjuk
@dovganjuk 3 года назад
Thank you. I decided to watch Friends with my mom 😀 God bless
@dovganjuk
@dovganjuk 3 года назад
Sry, I changed my mind after started watching the first episode
@tynytian
@tynytian 3 года назад
@@dovganjuk good call
@TheMountAndBladerX10
@TheMountAndBladerX10 2 года назад
You might be suprised what icons one can find where you least expect it. My dad had an old Icon of the Theotokos from russia. according to the inscription its from the 1700s, but i think it might be a later recreation. I found in a little chamber stacked under a bunch of secular paintings that werent hung up anymore.
@journeywithjoah1142
@journeywithjoah1142 3 года назад
I have a problem. I am a covert who has a problem with "holy hoarding". What do I do with all these icons??
@thomask9272
@thomask9272 3 года назад
This last year, I've bought tons of statues and candles. (Kind of a holy shopping spree like yours.) I keep some of them in the closet, until I decide it's time to change my prayer space. It's sort of like redecorating, and it helps keep the space feeling fresh.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Give them away. Don't buy an icon of a saint unless stick to praying to him/her for a month or more.
@journeywithjoah1142
@journeywithjoah1142 3 года назад
@@BibleIllustrated Ok thanks
@KE4VVF
@KE4VVF 3 года назад
Very Comical! I always love your videos. Thank you my Precious Sibling in Christ.
@ernjcbv
@ernjcbv 2 года назад
Many devout Catholics around the world own some sort of Icon. We usually don't have corner for it though. Us Catholics typically have a main altar in our house, facing east(preferably). I don't have Icons right now but I am planning to buy some, and a censer cause I am so extra LOL. Anyways may the Holy Mother of God intercede in our prayers and may the Lord the Jesus Christ protect shed the light of the Holy Spirit onto us to protect us.
@MsTsuki123
@MsTsuki123 Год назад
The combination of your art style plus the musics used bring me such an inner peace. By the way, although I'm Catholic, I'm going to make an icon corner as well!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Год назад
Icon corners are known in Catholicism, they're just called home altars :)
@MsTsuki123
@MsTsuki123 Год назад
​ @Bible Illustrated Yeah, that's true, how could i forgot? My mom herself has one! But I'm planning to use only icons. Having the same type of art looks more harmonic to me! By the way, I know you're not catholic but maybe you can help me in this one: do you know if we also pray/do our altars towards north? Cheers and thank you for your videos!
@heckinmemes6430
@heckinmemes6430 3 года назад
Always remember to rotate through your icon collection to level them up. You wouldn't want to be four or five tollhouses in and realize your team is out of HP(Holy points). I'm joking, of course. Informative video as always.
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 года назад
Ha! That reminds me of the first Dark Cloud game, and to a lesser extent, Dark Cloud 2 (Dark Chronicle outside the US.) Wow, I loved those games!
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 2 года назад
Currently in the process of setting up our icon corner, as we're still new at this. The safest place from my kids running off with the icons and drawing on them with crayon is the east wall of the office. At least it makes streaming sung scripture and prayers, lol. Thanks for your work, please keep at it.
@mcspankey4810
@mcspankey4810 2 года назад
Your humor is awesome
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 года назад
No, you're awesome
@faintvids7352
@faintvids7352 3 года назад
Hey Bojan, I like the blue icon of Christ in your icon corner. It's a real masterpiece!
@ArielRyanBautista1313
@ArielRyanBautista1313 2 года назад
This channel has a lot of good advice, thank you Bojan
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 года назад
Always, glad you like it!
@jacobsaint1874
@jacobsaint1874 3 года назад
6:14 love The Simpsons reference there!!!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Hah thanks! Glad people recognize it!
@violetrose415
@violetrose415 3 года назад
Also, I like the return of our convertitis friend He took his Orthodoxy game too far haha
@Shcke
@Shcke 3 года назад
Hello Bojan, what is your thought on the latest Serbian bible translation from prof. Dragan Milin?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Haven't read it yet (and I sorta lack any scholarly knowledge of the translations to give a proper overview) :-)
@TheBloodyKnuckle
@TheBloodyKnuckle Год назад
The best video on Orthodox practice I've seen so far!❤
@dakotalaynen6711
@dakotalaynen6711 Год назад
I love the humor. Thank you.
@ManlyMan420
@ManlyMan420 15 дней назад
1:34 Animal Crossing apple? TOM NOOK HAS CONVERTED TO ORTHODOXY!!!!
@LeperMessiah01234
@LeperMessiah01234 9 месяцев назад
Many catholics including myself also have an “icon corner” though not always with Icons, but more often we use statues.
@TonyRebater
@TonyRebater 3 года назад
Western Branch of American Presbylutheranism, sounds like the simpsons reference
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Why I'd never
@Shardalon
@Shardalon 2 года назад
Wait, how would one have an icon of their guardian angel, except for the rare occasion you've actually seen them?
@suem6004
@suem6004 2 года назад
Very interesting. I may actually do this. Are you an iconographer? How do we know who our guardian angel is?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 года назад
Not an iconographer but starting out on iconography (recently sold my first icon). As for the guardian angel, each one of us has their own individual guardian angel. We do not know their names.
@suem6004
@suem6004 2 года назад
@@BibleIllustrated Sorry to not understand. How do you know what guardian angel icon to buy if you know neither the name nor how he/she looks? Sincere question. Thank you for your videos. You make orthodoxy so even I can understand
@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction
@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction Год назад
Wait so the icons themselves face east or they face west and we face east when we pray?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Год назад
No, we face east and icons face west
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420 Год назад
❤ Ur Videos thank U. I'll Pray 4U 😅
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420
@DjSt.EphenSPOOk-E.Diaz420 Год назад
and I'll pray 4 Sara gets better
@James-en1ob
@James-en1ob 3 года назад
3:03 Is this a Harry Potter reference? You have good taste, good sir.
@sabrinalisten
@sabrinalisten 3 года назад
Thank you - useful and funny
@craftart6618
@craftart6618 2 года назад
How do u do with icon corner with statues then ? ( Even orthodox have these, as icons cutouts that Are vested)
@noahlindgren1014
@noahlindgren1014 3 года назад
How do I arrange my icon corner if it’s just icons of the crucifixion and resurrection (since my pantokrator is an hour away)
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
I would put them side by side :-)
@gustavothespaniard9689
@gustavothespaniard9689 3 года назад
Thank you for posting.
@johnpeskey4519
@johnpeskey4519 2 месяца назад
Just to clarify…the icons FACE East…so they are placed in a Western wall. The person praying faces West…yes?
@jacobe9719
@jacobe9719 Месяц назад
other way around
@kellyshea92
@kellyshea92 Год назад
Just ordered some first 3 Icons and Lampada. Cant wait hang them up. Also just got church clothes for the first time in 13 years. What a wonderful and beautiful religion.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated Год назад
So happy for you! 😃
@kellyshea92
@kellyshea92 Год назад
@@BibleIllustrated and thank you for all of this info! Ive been researching church history for a while and I just love your content and how easy you get the point across in a funny/easy to understand styles. I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness so all of this is just mind boggling to me.
@James-en1ob
@James-en1ob 3 года назад
How about damaged Icons Bojan? What should we do to them? Should we restore them? If we can't restore them, what should we do to them?
@ThumbKnuckle
@ThumbKnuckle Год назад
Since there are icons on most of my patristic books, I'm not sure if I need any icons other than one of Christ.
@matiasfrancini
@matiasfrancini 6 месяцев назад
Hellp i need help, the only place i can put on an ícon is on my room because i have cats and my mom is pagan (she doesnt care about ícons, is more about the cats) im roman catholic so i use normal images too, i made an altar on my closet because if it was on my table, I would have to place more objects and still deal with cats, is it forbidden?
@johnpaulhumphrey2981
@johnpaulhumphrey2981 3 года назад
Can you have icon corner in tents and vans? can priests bless non-traditional housing forms?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Yes and yes :-)
@alidaweber1023
@alidaweber1023 5 месяцев назад
We've lived in an RV for a long time. We try to have the RV, and our car, blessed every year. Even if you don't live in your vehicle, it's a good idea to have your priest bless it.
@TheLadyPlantagenet
@TheLadyPlantagenet 2 года назад
Will we get this soundtrack on future videos again? Haven’t seen it in a while :(
@crypticpeel1158
@crypticpeel1158 5 месяцев назад
im roman catholic but i wanna get a few icons and crosses for a corner in my room not to idolise or replace my faith nor remind me but to keep my bedroom not just protected but a sanctuary of peace where i can lay or sit and be in the presence of my religion as my family are atheists (do keep in mind i was christened when i was a baby as it was the thing to do and also back then a way to appear legally a person in my country, but im starting to go through the motions of getting baptised accepted and placed within my local church)
@hamsterman32
@hamsterman32 3 года назад
1:37 "In circumcision we are to...." Why this cliff hanger?
@jaisonsimon
@jaisonsimon 2 года назад
💀
@anyarudko6308
@anyarudko6308 3 года назад
Can you please do a video on the Apocrypha and why some reject it?
@xxsinfulxbumxx6341
@xxsinfulxbumxx6341 2 года назад
If your nations flag is a cross, would it be inappropriate to have it decorating your icon corner? Like the Georgian flag or the British flags or the Scandinavian flags?
@Shalefist
@Shalefist 2 года назад
I would think his meaning is that unless you use the national or local flag as an aspect of worship, it is probably not the best idea to have it in a holy space; it would be the functional equivalent of an Orthodox church having the state and national flags flanking the altar behind the iconostasis. There is a reason those objects, if in a church, are at flanking sides of the entire iconostasis (and thus out of the entire sacred space itself).
@kindredharpy65
@kindredharpy65 2 месяца назад
hello i am trying to convert to eastern orthodox and my family is catholic is it ok if i would put my prayer comer in my room?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 месяца назад
@@kindredharpy65 of course it is :)
@kindredharpy65
@kindredharpy65 2 месяца назад
@@BibleIllustrated thank you i have been watching your video for a while and have been helping with the conversion
@baccusthedrunken
@baccusthedrunken 3 года назад
Sometimes you have to foster an icon you find at a thrift store next to dusty Beatles albums.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Those are especially blessed
@jamesajiduah2001
@jamesajiduah2001 3 года назад
Long time no see!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Back finally!
@justinmassie2235
@justinmassie2235 2 года назад
Praise Jesus! In Jesus Name I pray! Amen ❤️🙏📖
@TheSpekkel1
@TheSpekkel1 3 года назад
Great video :)
@agirlbelngingtthewild9625
@agirlbelngingtthewild9625 3 года назад
Is it bad to have several icons of Jesus and Mary on your wall/corner? I cause I do 👀
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Nothing wrong with that. I personally am not fond of it, I like to have singular icons of saints (unless it is a specific feastday depicted). But in general, nothing wrong :D
@joenathan8059
@joenathan8059 2 года назад
How does one find a patron saint and what are guardian angels?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 года назад
Here you go! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p443yfjFuBs.html
@joenathan8059
@joenathan8059 2 года назад
@@BibleIllustrated thank you
@juliaboon9741
@juliaboon9741 3 года назад
Without thinking I put the Theotokos on the left of Christ because she is looking right and it felt balanced. Then I saw it was the norm lol.
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 года назад
You'd be surprised how often things like that happen!
@Uljas_dunn
@Uljas_dunn 9 месяцев назад
ïs it ok to have icons even tho im not baptized or chrismated?
@Uljas_dunn
@Uljas_dunn 9 месяцев назад
@Ybbob1644 I know
@iliandimitrov4857
@iliandimitrov4857 3 месяца назад
Добро видео, благодарим :)
@Alex_0510
@Alex_0510 5 месяцев назад
Hi! Do you have a discord community?
@iloveAW123
@iloveAW123 10 месяцев назад
As a buddhist . Im like to draw some icon of orthodox . And make a cross like in church.
@sterlingwilkes3240
@sterlingwilkes3240 Год назад
Dont know if im doing it right, but: christ on top, mary to his left and saint thomas underneath
@Skipsul
@Skipsul 3 года назад
Sooo..... that 2 story iconostasis in the front hall was a bit too much?
@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813
@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813 3 года назад
Can Catholic have an icon corner
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Absolutely
@WanderingManProd
@WanderingManProd 2 года назад
Now what I want to know is what's the Eastern branch of Presbylutheranism 😆???
@vickyrestartingchannel
@vickyrestartingchannel 11 месяцев назад
how does one know their Guardian Angel?
@BookofAkathists
@BookofAkathists 3 года назад
Practical and funny. Ha!
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Hah thanks!
@EthanHaddad7
@EthanHaddad7 3 года назад
“In circumcision, we are to-“
@ikacrvic7325
@ikacrvic7325 3 года назад
Hi Bojan i would like to give you one good topic for a video. I am an orthodox christian from Serbia and i realy like heavy metal music but it is considered satanic so it would be cool if you could make a video aboit it, is it bad or is it just us on earth that judge. All support from Ivan.❤️☦️
@slackjaw4270
@slackjaw4270 Год назад
Hi Serbian friend, ask yourself does the music glorify Christ? For something different check out Vivaldi composer. He was METAL and did glorify Christ with his music.
@El_Jupo
@El_Jupo 3 месяца назад
If I ever got an icon of me. I would replace the mirror in my bathroom with it
@baronofbahlingen9662
@baronofbahlingen9662 3 года назад
Idk where you get comments for Q&As but I’m submitting this in case you see it. Who/which church do you consider properly canonical for America/all-North America, if you thing it’s definitely one of them that is. And if you’re familiar with him, what do you think of Archbishop Elphidophoros, he’s my Archbishop and I promise nothing you could say would be considered offensive, I’ve heard plenty already.
@drivingbritt9617
@drivingbritt9617 2 года назад
Isn't he the one who's been pulling all that political nonsense into the church? I don't know about Bojan, but as for me, I'm not a fan of the insertion of politics where it doesn't belong. Not into video games, not into movies and TV shows, not into sports, not into the workplace, not into my taxes, and most certainly not into my church!
@christodoula
@christodoula Год назад
But I WANT the giant shrine 😞
@dominikdurkovsky8318
@dominikdurkovsky8318 6 месяцев назад
3:20 Or you can make an extra wall in the house
@saveliysotnikov2383
@saveliysotnikov2383 3 года назад
7 minutes long uploaded 7 hours ago 777 views nice
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
So satisfying
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 4 месяца назад
I am going to be giving away Icons just because I am moving.
@J0HN5AW
@J0HN5AW Год назад
As a convert to Orthodoxy, via GOARCH, married over 3 decades to an awesome loving wife who is not Orthodox, I say my prayers alone, in secret, in my closet, so to speak, Matthew 6 : 6.
@alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897
@alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897 3 года назад
The 10% of the tithe went to the Levitical Priest in the Old Testament. Since Christ is our great High Priest there is no need for tithing on top of ones offering.
@heliopijpe
@heliopijpe 3 года назад
hahaha ^^ nice
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 3 года назад
Thank you!
@robertwaguespack9414
@robertwaguespack9414 3 года назад
See, Bojan is doing Pope Francis intention be evangelizing us by explaining the icon corner.
@firstaid56
@firstaid56 2 года назад
Presba-Lutheranism
@kendrashirley5697
@kendrashirley5697 14 дней назад
No. All of this is just too much. Icons are not necessary and an entire corner is just a shrine. We have one icon. It’s for my catacumen husband. And I don’t like it. But it stays. This is soooo weird. A how to set up an icon corner is weirder. Super dogmatic. I’m sure God really cares about all of this. 🙄
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 7 месяцев назад
Praying to images is idolatry, regardless of the excuses that are used to justify it. There is no Biblical precedent for this folly, but this is what happens when traditions of men are elevated to have the same authority as the word of God. May God open your eyes to the truth
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 7 месяцев назад
We're not praying to images. If you want to make an argument, use a proper one that takes into account what we actually believe in. We also believe that praying to icons would be idolatry.
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 7 месяцев назад
@@BibleIllustrated This Orthodox Church would seem to disagree with you. The Meaning of Icons | Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church "The Orthodox Church uses icons to assist in worship. Icons are a 'window to heaven' and they help us to focus on the divine things." So, they are used as an assist in prayers. I have heard enough Orthodox Fathers say they pray to the saints through focusing/directing their prayers through the icons of those saints to ask them for things/blessings etc. That is a form of necromancy which the Bible forbids. I am not misrepresenting iconodulia, it is the veneration of images, and prayer to dead saints. Not Biblical at all, and I can prove that by asking; do you have a chapter and verse in the Bible that supports such a practice?
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 7 месяцев назад
@@333Paradigm333 Yes, they say it assits in prayer. Not that they are prayed to. And I'd like to see exact quotes where they say "focusing/directing their prayers through the icons of those saints." Before I provide you with biblical evidence, why do you think that it has to be directly supported with the Bible? That itself is a novel teaching unsupported for the first 16 centuries of Christianity.
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 7 месяцев назад
@@BibleIllustrated Exact quotes? (Even if it is paraphrased it captures the essence of what they said). You won't give me simple scripture reference to back up your unbiblical practice, because it doesn't exist. To answer your question, the Bible is God's word, His infallible revelation to mankind. The Bible is authoritative as a result of the author, and no matter the "Church/Christian institution" they are not the ultimate authority as it is run by fallible man, who can make mistakes. That is why all Christians must submit to the word of of God as the final authority. Tradition has it's place, if it is not in violation of the Holy Scriptures. You can make excuses for your iconodulia but it is in violation of the scriptures as previously stated.
@user-vv1do1wg1j
@user-vv1do1wg1j 5 месяцев назад
idolatry is worship of a false deity, worship is defined as adoration pointed to a deity. no one sees Mary and the saints as gods; so youre just wrong with basic word definitions dude. show me one Orthodox christian who says the saints are deities. actually we praise God THROUGH them, we recognize their virtues, as it was given to them BY GOD, when i seek the intercession of a saint, to pray for me, the saint prays TO GOD. the Theotokos is special and holy because she SUBMITTED herself FULLY to the will OF GOD, not out of her own innate virtue (as this virtue is from God, her acceptance/loyalty to God, her own free will to follow God is why she is special) all virtue is from God, not from yourself. when we venerate God's saints we venerate him, when we recognize the great mercies and grace of God acting through his saints we recognize him. it is only by God's grace, that a human can become worthy of being called a saint.
@linak7155
@linak7155 2 года назад
Please don't! Scripture says not to make idols...it is a form of idolatry!
@frankfakerson6605
@frankfakerson6605 2 года назад
It's holy because it Comes from the traditions of the church "The body of christ"
@linak7155
@linak7155 2 года назад
@@frankfakerson6605 yes, I am aware.Sadly in churches man-made traditions take precedence over YHVH 's simple commands.
@carolusaugustussanctorum
@carolusaugustussanctorum 2 года назад
@@linak7155 Idols are images made to be workshiped in God's place. The icons are not idols; they, just as the cherubim statues in the Arch and the Temple, are decorative holy art, that obviously are not workshiped. Christ's Church wouldn't commit such a idiotic sacrilege; idolatry is a sin by the Church.
@BL33D1NG1NS1D31
@BL33D1NG1NS1D31 2 года назад
This is Idol Worship... wtf? "Bible Illustrated" but your theology and understanding of the Bible is wrong and terrifyingly misleading...
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 2 года назад
Nope.
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