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Reading Rocket 

Anthony Dawson
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Rocket, built in 1838 for the Philadelphia & Reading Railroad is the oldest surviving Bury-Type locomotive in preservation, and as such is a cousin to Coppernob.
In operation until 1879 - albeit rebuilt as a saddle tank, Rocket was "restored" in the 1890s and was from 1933 on display at the Franklin Institute of Philadelphia, but has recently found a new home at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania.
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@Arkay315
@Arkay315 Год назад
I love 0-4-0 locomotives there is just something charming about them having only drive wheels.
@MonsieurFluffyPants
@MonsieurFluffyPants Год назад
What about 6 wheelers? 8 coupled? Decapods?
@biglittlerailroad874
@biglittlerailroad874 Год назад
Nice to see Rocket get the spotlight. The braithwaite locos had pretty good lifespans, especially Rocket’s sister Spitfire. She became one of the first engines to work on the Delaware, Lackawanna, and Western Railroad, and was later sold to a coal mine, being scrapped in 1885.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
I've been researching Spitfire. Sadly a lot of what I've come accross both in the UK and USA is by a chap called Clement Stretton, who had a worrying tendency to simply make up "facts". I know there's a vintage drawing of it about 1850 but Stretton also provides a so-called 'works drawing' which is clearly fiction! ARGH
@biglittlerailroad874
@biglittlerailroad874 Год назад
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Ah, gotcha. I have discussed Spitfire with others in the past and a lot of it does seem to make sense. Of course there are illustrations of Spitfire with more exaggerated features, though that was done by the DL&W. Some Railway Gazette articles I've found do mention Spitfire and provide a technical drawing, specifically volume 34. Though that could be the same works drawing you're referring to.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
@@biglittlerailroad874 I've come accros material by a chap called Herbert T Walker who wrote a lot about 19th century American locomotives and British imports. He writes for the Railway Gazette, Locomotive Magazine, Railway Carriage & Wagon Review, but I don't know how reliable he is. Like Clement Stretton it all seems feasible and plausible. He also uses Clement Stretton's drawings, which is a worry. So I honestly don't know. The really sad thing is one sees Stretton referenced in, the Railway & Locomotive Historical Society journal papers into quite modern times, which is..... worrying. I'm not even sure Rocket, Spitfire etc were even built by Braithwaite, Milner & Co. Given the firm was in receivership and not accepting new orders in the late 1830s!
@biglittlerailroad874
@biglittlerailroad874 Год назад
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory I would assume the same applies to the Eastern Counties engines that were also said to be Braithwaite locos.
@delurkor
@delurkor Год назад
It has been 70 plus year since I have been to the Franklin Institute. I was 5 or 6 at the time. I remember being upset by the big locomotive we were on, could move back and forth, That was the Baldwin 60000, 4-10-2, as I learned many years later. Kid those days. Thank you Mr Dawson for the memories and the information.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Год назад
Thanks for this. So British it had me thinking of a Reading UK unkown to me railway. Had me then confused looking like a giant wheeled 2-2-0 or maybe inside coupling rods. But then the 1890s restoration explained it. With so many long ago restorations they did not bother too much with historical accuracy. Often a case of here is something laughable compared to todays great progress was the aim. I expect the extra work of quartering, crank pins and coupling rods was seen as not worth it and would not be needed for its primary function of being wheeled around for display. For that purpose i can see accuracy providing extra complications that they considered best avoided unfortunately. If they made the wheels first without considering crankpins etc then they might have missed the exposition with a rework needed. Poor planning occurred even in the past. The precedent of the John Bull locomotive getting rid of coupling rods early on may have had them thinking this Rocket also used that idea early in its life. Being from that part of the world and era. Perhaps even someone around in the 1840s told them about taking coupling rods off Rocket to cope with early US track or had it confused with the John Bull. Just my guesses. Would be interested to know the real story if it could be found.
@malcolmtaylor518
@malcolmtaylor518 Год назад
Thanks for the video. Bury locomotives were innovative for the time, using bar frames.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
Not particularly. All locomotives before Planet had used bar frames. They were a Stephenson innovation. Bury simply re-introduced them after Robert Stephenson went over to Sandwich frames.
@TonysNWR
@TonysNWR Год назад
Thanks for highlighting Rocket on RailStory! I live in the Philadelphia area and went to the Franklin Institute a few times when I was younger. It was cool to see her there but I think she’ll be more at home at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania. Can’t wait to see her in Strasburg!
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 10 месяцев назад
Very cool!
@ArthurAndNormandyFan1
@ArthurAndNormandyFan1 Год назад
The tank engine conversion was amusing, though it must be infuriating to know how close, yet off the replica wheels are! A nice little old 0-4-0, that has been brought to my attention by you, a brilliant video, looking forward to the next RailStory.
@evan12697
@evan12697 Год назад
I've never understood in any of these videos why - if you're already going to the effort and expense of restoring it - you'd be off that last little bit? Seems maniacal
@primrosevale1995
@primrosevale1995 Год назад
"Take a look, it's in a book, Reading Rocket!"
@maryginger4877
@maryginger4877 Год назад
Its hard to explain, but our wedding reception was held Mt Airy train station in Philly... its not just about metal, its also about people. Your videos are fantastic.
@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
I find the spokes of some of the Bury type locos interesting, with them being offset. I love how clean the lines of the Bury engines are, with the frames, cranks, and so on being between the gauge of the rails. Fascinating how many rebuilds a lot of these early locos went through - There is a fine threshold between "Old locomotive" and "Historical locomotive" when it comes to saving these earlier pieces. Old locos capable of switching/shunting seem to be more plentiful than early passenger types, it seems. Have you had a look at the Reading's early Norris 4-4-0s? I love the cab placement on them.
@MJC19
@MJC19 Год назад
So many rockets, lions and tigers! Very great video! Would love to see a video on the John bull, I can't remember if you had done it already
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
John Bull or whatever its name is/was is on my list. It's a wierd thing.
@JohnDavies-cn3ro
@JohnDavies-cn3ro Год назад
Thank you, Anthony for introducing another veteran engine I'd not heard of. Its amazing how many of those very early engines actually survive, far more than you may imagine. There's another Bury 2-2-0, rebuilt as a 2-2-2 which survives in ireland. I love the bloopers which come up on the subtitles - this one renders 'bar frames' as 'bathrooms!
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
Thanks! You should see how it handles French or German!
@shaunbolton4662
@shaunbolton4662 Год назад
Another excellent video! Much appreciated the in-depth look at 'Rocket'- what a pity the early restorations left it with a stubby smokestack and those "driving" wheels. Still a pretty locomotive, though, and looking well cared for. Thanks for posting!
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@dawsonfradin9071
@dawsonfradin9071 Год назад
Yeah, the Franklin Institute isn't known for its locomotive preservation skills. I remember going there as a kid and all the engines were dirty and the whole room wasn't kept very well. The PRM will be a much better home for it
@markfrench8892
@markfrench8892 Год назад
What a varied and interesting history.
@richardswiderski4985
@richardswiderski4985 Год назад
Great video and a lovely engine.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
Many thanks!
@stephenkayser3147
@stephenkayser3147 2 месяца назад
I have watched this before. It is a most enjoyable experience. Informative, detailed and certainly interesting due to the intriguing history of the engine. This time in the development of locomotives is incredible for its speed of development and variety of ideas. A certainly critical time in the development of transport and civilisation as we know it today.
@jeffdayman8183
@jeffdayman8183 Год назад
Great one Anthony. I didn't know this engine had been moved. Cheers!
@srgmiller340
@srgmiller340 Год назад
Thank for the information about the Rocket and tiger .this loco would make a nice addition to the ERA 1 collection if some maker decided to continue with them mind you this fairly similar to the Hornby Tiger other than the wheel arrangement s and firebox
@Honeydwarf85
@Honeydwarf85 Год назад
Thank you so much for covering this! I remember asking for this one a few months back so I'm stoked to se it!
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory 10 месяцев назад
Hope you like it!
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 Год назад
How odd that this little engine survived on an American railway for such a long time. Perhaps it was a pet of the motive power superintendents.
@mattsmocs3281
@mattsmocs3281 Год назад
I can’t wait to measure her at Strasburg soon, i want to make a model of her sister spitfire with the modifications of the DL&W.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
Doooo be aware and do be careful that drawings of Spitfire (and others) in "as built" condition etc are the product of a British railway historian called Clement E Stretton - Stretton is notorious for simply making things up, including fabricating workslists (e.g. that for Edward Bury) and works drawings.
@evan12697
@evan12697 Год назад
Love your videos. Wonder if you'd ever talk about Lady Edith - an Irish 4-4-0 3' gauge locomotive and her tool car and carriage which were bought by some New Yorkers in 1959 and later moved to Allaire New Jersey? Seems in your wheelhouse
@mikebrown3772
@mikebrown3772 Год назад
A very interesting loco. Did any other Bury type locos have the valve shaft forward of the cylinders? Was this because it had a particularly short boiler barrel (perhaps to keep down the weight)?
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
Rocket and presumably others of that batch is not typical for Bury practice. Placement of the rocking shaft ahead of the cylinders was doing what Robert Stephenson was doing - a more developed, more complicated version of his "flying reverse".
@sebastianthomsen2225
@sebastianthomsen2225 Год назад
😊👍
@WilliamSmith-zk4tj
@WilliamSmith-zk4tj 3 месяца назад
1893 10 years before the Wright brothers not even a generation between the two
@thestarlightalchemist7333
@thestarlightalchemist7333 Год назад
So strange that this extremely european looking engine comes from the same railway as the massive and perhaps slightly ugly T-1 class 4-8-4s. Quick edit: I am a Canadian, so I do have an appreciation for North American locomotives, so me calling the T-1 ugly is more personal taste. It's also more specific to the as-(re)built look of the T-1s, as I believe 2101, with its flying numberboards and more centered headlight placement added during the Freedom Train and Chessie era, looks much better.
@joshuaW5621
@joshuaW5621 Год назад
Coke is a funny fuel for trains.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
What makes you say that? In the UK and in countries like France and Belgium it was the law that locomotives could not make smoke so they burned coke instead. It was only after Matthew Kirtley invented the Brick Arch in 1859 which allowed the efficient, relatively smoke-free burning of coal that in Europe locomotives became coal fired. All locomotives built in Britain or Europe and exported to the United States or Canada were designed for burning coke.
@joshuaW5621
@joshuaW5621 Год назад
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory well I didn’t know that early steam locomotives in Europe ran on coke. Well thanks for informing me on the crazy world of trains.
@AnthonyDawsonHistory
@AnthonyDawsonHistory Год назад
@@joshuaW5621 pleasure.
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 Год назад
I think only the engines used it.
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