Reading the Bible in the Context of the Qur'an | Dr. Ali Ataie 

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If he was constantly persecuted by the Meccans, wouldn't it be obvious that he would be driven out? That's not a prophecy.

The curse verse is referring to the Jews who didn’t pray to God correctly

.This didn't happen to Muhammad the story was changed to fit Isaiah 29.12 the true older story says Muhammad was sleeping and was asked to read and Muhammad said what shall I read ? then Muhammad said I read it, later the hadith's have the same type of quote as Isaiah 29.12 and Muhammad says he's not learned, this was changed to fit Isaiah. It seems the story is changing to fit certain Bible verses to claim prophecy, because Ibn Ishaq says Muhammad was sleep when he had a vision of Gabriel and the revelation; the words are different because Muhammad says there was some writing and Gabriel says read then Muhammad says what shall I read ? Muhammad after being asked to read finally says this. "He said:" "Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men." "So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart." Muhammad says he read it according to Ibn Ishaq and he wasn't in a cave but asleep in his bed, so the story is changing and being told differently. "So I read it" Biography of Muhammad (Sīrat Rasūl Allāh) When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ (وما اقرأ) He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’-and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said: ‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’ So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq www.usislam.org/pdf/sirat-RasulAllah-Ibn-Ishaq.PDF It says وما اقرأ "and what (should I) read?". So in this story Muhammad can read, he just asks what should he read. Ibn Ishaq died in 761. But in the 9th century, Bukhari born 21 July 810 C.E has a different story. The evidence adds up like I said before Muhammad could read & write but he wasn't known to be going around reciting scriptures and wasn't known to have written books, but could read; write. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write. "i will write for you revelation so you won't go astray", Some of the companions said. "Come near so that Allah's Messenger may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," sunnah.com/bukhari:7366 Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them. sunnah.com/muslim:1637c Allah's Messenger said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace upon him) is in the state of unconsciousness. sunnah.com/search?q=write+revelation+go+astray+ Muslim scholars have debated this subject for years; are still divided, some say Muhammad could read & write while others claim he couldn't, the debate comes down to language; certain hadith's. Sayed Hussain Makke says The Prophet Muhammad WAS NOT illiterate | Sayed Hussain Makke ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CgkkEoqkSlo.html Did Prophet Muhammad know how to read & write? ~ Dr. Yasir Qadhi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-34hgGlWovbQ.html Even scholars like Jamal Badawi, Debate with Sharoosh says Muhammad probably could write but couldn't write very well, in their debate he could read and write but was not very learned like writing books. Jamal admitted the Arabic says Muhammad didn't know how to write very well, the video is already set where Badawi admits this around 104 onward just watch the video about the Treaty and Muhammad writing words, it says in the Arabic Muhammad couldn't write very well, so Muhammad was able to write, so the people understood Muhammad could write but not very well, otherwise why say this ? Jamal Badawi, Anis Sharrosh - The Holy Quran Word of God or Word of Muhammad ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XR7QhGYU6o0.html Badawi tries to use Qur'an 29.43 as evidence that Muhammad was illiterate but the verse says Muhammad hadn't recite scriptures before nor wrote books, this doesn't mean Muhammad couldn't read nor write but Muhammad wasn't known as reciting scriptures nor writing multiple books. The Qur'an 29.43 uses the Arabic word tatlū تلو meaning recite and not Iqra قرا meaning to read scriptures. So that fix doesn't work because the evidence says Muhammad was writing things just not books; Badawi admitted about the treaty it says Muhammad couldn't write very well, so he wasn't known as writing scriptures but could've been a good poet; wasn't writing books but could write sentences, so he had his scribes write for him adding to the revelation. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.

@@lakerstekkenn 🤣 not really we can say the same about prediction of jesus 😳 so at the end of the day u have nothing to say when your script just said, the same thing we could've said Jesus was pretending although we know he wasn't of course us Muslims know that but I'm saying if I didn't know that I could assume the same for that, so you can't really say that that's a stupid thing to say and shows the level of hypocrisy, you have !! You only want to use those quotes when it suits you you only want to say those things when it suits you know when somebody says it back to you you won't accept it will you

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So Isaiah 29 is in reference to Jerusalem by which scholars? Also Isaiah 53 is a reference to Israel by Rabbinical scholars.

@@ibraheemg525 Isaiah 53 is also fulfilled by Jeremiah so it can refer to a single person a prophet bearing the sins of his people because they rejected him and are trying to kill him. Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53 just like Jeremiah did, Jeremiah even quotes Isaiah 53, like a Lamb being led to the slaughter. This doesn't mean Jeremiah was a human sacrifice for the sins of Israel just like Jesus wasn't this human / God sacrifice for the sins of humanity just a prophet who was rejected and was killed then raised from the dead. Isaiah 53:7 New International Version He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. Jeremiah 11:19 I had been like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; I did not realize that they had plotted against me, saying, “Let us destroy the tree and its fruit; let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name be remembered no more.”

@@ibraheemg525 This didn't happen to Muhammad the story was changed to fit Isaiah 29.12 the true older story says Muhammad was sleeping and was asked to read and Muhammad said what shall I read ? then Muhammad said I read it, later the hadith's have the same type of quote as Isaiah 29.12 and Muhammad says he's not learned, this was changed to fit Isaiah. It seems the story is changing to fit certain Bible verses to claim prophecy, because Ibn Ishaq says Muhammad was sleep when he had a vision of Gabriel and the revelation; the words are different because Muhammad says there was some writing and Gabriel says read then Muhammad says what shall I read ? Muhammad after being asked to read finally says this. "He said:" "Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men." "So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart." Muhammad says he read it according to Ibn Ishaq and he wasn't in a cave but asleep in his bed, so the story is changing and being told differently. "So I read it" Biography of Muhammad (Sīrat Rasūl Allāh) When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ (وما اقرأ) He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’-and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said: ‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’ So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq www.usislam.org/pdf/sirat-RasulAllah-Ibn-Ishaq.PDF It says وما اقرأ "and what (should I) read?". So in this story Muhammad can read, he just asks what should he read. Ibn Ishaq died in 761. But in the 9th century, Bukhari born 21 July 810 C.E has a different story. The evidence adds up like I said before Muhammad could read & write but he wasn't known to be going around reciting scriptures and wasn't known to have written books, but could read; write. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write. "i will write for you revelation so you won't go astray", Some of the companions said. "Come near so that Allah's Messenger may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," sunnah.com/bukhari:7366 Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them. sunnah.com/muslim:1637c Allah's Messenger said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace upon him) is in the state of unconsciousness. sunnah.com/search?q=write+revelation+go+astray+ Muslim scholars have debated this subject for years; are still divided, some say Muhammad could read & write while others claim he couldn't, the debate comes down to language; certain hadith's. Sayed Hussain Makke says The Prophet Muhammad WAS NOT illiterate | Sayed Hussain Makke ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CgkkEoqkSlo.html Did Prophet Muhammad know how to read & write? ~ Dr. Yasir Qadhi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-34hgGlWovbQ.html Even scholars like Jamal Badawi, Debate with Sharoosh says Muhammad probably could write but couldn't write very well, in their debate he could read and write but was not very learned like writing books. Jamal admitted the Arabic says Muhammad didn't know how to write very well, the video is already set where Badawi admits this around 104 onward just watch the video about the Treaty and Muhammad writing words, it says in the Arabic Muhammad couldn't write very well, so Muhammad was able to write, so the people understood Muhammad could write but not very well, otherwise why say this ? Jamal Badawi, Anis Sharrosh - The Holy Quran Word of God or Word of Muhammad ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XR7QhGYU6o0.html Badawi tries to use Qur'an 29.43 as evidence that Muhammad was illiterate but the verse says Muhammad hadn't recite scriptures before nor wrote books, this doesn't mean Muhammad couldn't read nor write but Muhammad wasn't known as reciting scriptures nor writing multiple books. The Qur'an 29.43 uses the Arabic word tatlū تلو meaning recite and not Iqra قرا meaning to read scriptures. So that fix doesn't work because the evidence says Muhammad was writing things just not books; Badawi admitted about the treaty it says Muhammad couldn't write very well, so he wasn't known as writing scriptures but could've been a good poet; wasn't writing books but could write sentences, so he had his scribes write for him adding to the revelation. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.

@@lakerstekkenn This is an effort in vain. You're just wasting your time bro. Whatever Ib Ishaq wrote how was known to have altered hadiths and inserted things from his own imagination. For your knowledge the word "Igraa" equally means 1/reading and 2/reciting. That means: reading from a written tex or reciting after someone who speaks in front of one, or reading from memory. We're not gonna heed what you or Ibn Ishaq say about something already proven and agreed upon for 1.5 thousand years.

@@Vreidyfarm i did not get you point brother what is your criticisms of ibn ishaq?