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Real Analysis | Derivative Rules 

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@alanlihic
@alanlihic 4 года назад
I've always wanted a proof of this since high school! I'm 29 now and you made my wish come true finally :D
@MadScientist0623
@MadScientist0623 4 года назад
Thank you for this. I wish I had this 5, if not 10 years ago. I find that most Calculus textbooks define the concept of a limit, show a few examples and then go over derivatives and then stop explicitly linking the two again. It then tends to be found at the beginning of integration and the same story occurs. I think that more should be shown with limits as they really are the foundation that Calculus is based off of.
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 4 года назад
2:20: for g(a) = c, we apply the product rule and get (fg)'(a) = f'(a) c + f(a) 0, as long as f is not infinity then this results in a trivial expression cf'(a)
@TheMauror22
@TheMauror22 4 года назад
Cool, suddenly the derivative rules become so easy and understandable
@punditgi
@punditgi 4 года назад
For the chain rule if f(x) = f(a) for some neighborhood of a, then the proof fails because of division by zero
@jadegrace1312
@jadegrace1312 4 года назад
I don't think that's true because if you use f(x)=x then the proof works fine if you follow the same steps
@punditgi
@punditgi 4 года назад
@@jadegrace1312 But other functions could be constant over some interval around a. This is a well known flaw on the proof as presented, which otherwise is very nicely done.
@jadegrace1312
@jadegrace1312 4 года назад
@@punditgi That makes sense. Very interesting.
@punditgi
@punditgi 4 года назад
@@jadegrace1312 The problem is that the totally correct proof is a little more complicated in order to avoid that division. I hope our presenter shows us the revised proof with his usual clarity. 😃
@stephenbeck7222
@stephenbeck7222 4 года назад
There’s nothing wrong with the proof. Every derivative definition has a “divide by zero”. But this division is inside a limit in an indeterminate form ( 0 / 0), so we can use limit properties to evaluate the limit.
@CM63_France
@CM63_France 4 года назад
Hi, A rapid way for showing the derivative of the ratio. But may be we can exibit this from the product rule: We know that (fg)’ = f’g+fg’, that tells us that f’g = (fg)’ - fg’, and then f’ = ((fg)’ - fg’ )/g . Let u = fg, then f = u/g, and then (u/g)’ = (u’ - ug’/g)/g . Let’s multiply up and down by g : (u/g)’ = ( u’g-ug’)/g² For fun: 1 "and so on and so forth", 12 "go ahead and ...", including 9 "let's go ahead and ...", inluding 2 "let's go ahead and do that", 6 "great", and the usual "and that's a good place to stop".
@revoltoff
@revoltoff 4 года назад
I am struggling here with finding derivates in points of the inverse functions and this guy makes this all look so easy LOL
@M79RS
@M79RS 4 года назад
May not have been a good idea to use a as your variable of choice here
@goodplacetostop2973
@goodplacetostop2973 4 года назад
14:21
@jaskarnd5993
@jaskarnd5993 4 года назад
That’s a good place to stop
@pbj4184
@pbj4184 4 года назад
When will you do the AMA?
@borisbryant.007
@borisbryant.007 4 года назад
mike i can't find the playlist on real analysis anymore .............. the main reason i became your virtual student
@revoltoff
@revoltoff 4 года назад
Finally something I can understand lol. Taking a Calc 1 type of class with stat for my BA bSc which has kind of nothing to do with math in my opinion but hey, they force you to take it to ''show your brain cells are working'' from my understanding lol... But I like to watch these cool math videos to understand better and hopefully pass my exam
@tomatrix7525
@tomatrix7525 2 года назад
Best of luck. Don’t get overly taken up with real analysis...It’s a bit much for only calc one but definitely watch if genuinely interested.
@TechToppers
@TechToppers 4 года назад
Let s(n) denote the sum of the digits of a positive integer n in base 10. If s(m) = 20 and s(33m) = 120, what is the value of s(3m)? Can someone please help me with this? It came in India. PRMO 2019 25th August Paper
@samkirkiles6747
@samkirkiles6747 3 года назад
Could you explain the compositional limit part at 8:51?
@tomatrix7525
@tomatrix7525 3 года назад
Lim x->a f(x)=f(a) is something basic that you probably know given f cont. at a. Looking at his original definition of g’(f(a)) involving y, it uses lim y -> f(a). We can replace the y with anything and adjust the lim something -> something else once the y placeholder still approaches f(a). Therefore, if he replaces y with f(x), and we know lim x-> a f(x) = f(a) , thus that lim something -> something else is lim x-> a, so then the y placeholder (which is f(x)) becomes f(a) as required. I might even be ‘over’ explaining this as it’s really a simple property of limits, but I suspect you’re overthinking it or getting confused among the rest of the contents of the video. Hope it helps.
@anakinkylo.thepomenerianan9084
@anakinkylo.thepomenerianan9084 3 года назад
this course style reminds me of rod haggarty textbook
@anakinkylo.thepomenerianan9084
@anakinkylo.thepomenerianan9084 3 года назад
excellent stuff the way you teach most people skip his stuff cause they confused but you convey it an excellent manor
@arvindsrinivasan424
@arvindsrinivasan424 4 года назад
🔥🔥🔥
@jaskarnd5993
@jaskarnd5993 4 года назад
Im having trouble with this problem can you please help me. Find the function f(a(g)) where a(69) = 80085 and f(420) = 911
@revoltoff
@revoltoff 4 года назад
I would start by trying to roll the function up into smaller bits maybe and then trying to see if there is any element you can apply in order to give some sort of an equation to the problems... hopeit helps
@minh9545
@minh9545 4 года назад
Why does this function look like a joke?
@minh9545
@minh9545 4 года назад
Oh shit, it is
@jakimoretti7771
@jakimoretti7771 4 года назад
here is a vid that might help! ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6_b7RDuLwcI.html
@tgx3529
@tgx3529 4 года назад
for example [(80085/69)*x]^k=911, there is k=ln 911/ln(80085*420/69), (we take the linear function only for x>0, there exists ln function)
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