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[REAL ATC] An UNRULY AIR MARSHAL forces emergency landing! 

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@VASAviation
@VASAviation 6 лет назад
*According to reports, the two Air Marshals were approved onboard the aircraft but the crew hadn't been notified. The Air Marshal shouldn't have shown his gun but his badge instead*
@pmvaldez1
@pmvaldez1 6 лет назад
Sounds like the air marshal had a bad attitude.
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m 6 лет назад
Using your firearm as your identification is proof you shouldn't have that firearm.
@pmvaldez1
@pmvaldez1 6 лет назад
@@ncc74656m exactly. Any fool with a gun could flash it and claim to be an "air marshal".
@pmvaldez1
@pmvaldez1 6 лет назад
Something else to consider. What if other passengers had seen that, they could have interpreted that as a hijacking and tried to overpower him and that could have lead to shots being fired.
@93hothead
@93hothead 6 лет назад
So in the video they wanted to find someone but decided to cause distress to that poor flight attendant
@mynameisgladiator1933
@mynameisgladiator1933 6 лет назад
"Hey. I'm an air marshal. I can prove it. Here's my gun." - Former Air Marshal.
@T0MMYNAT0R
@T0MMYNAT0R 5 лет назад
I'm going to hijack the comment to say that not only the flight attend, crew and captain did a good job, but also the tower. Because even after they said: "Yeah, they are marshals" the tower still said we'll have to check first, which is extremely smart.
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 4 года назад
Well, we know they didn't really think he was a hijacker, because, we know from 9-11, that they pretty much stand back and hand the plane over if they think they are.
@cdoesrcher
@cdoesrcher 4 года назад
@@ralphholiman7401 who???? air marshalls weren't on those planes and the pilots were fucken stabbed. shut the hell up you idiot.
4 года назад
@@cdoesrcher I can use this salt to de-ice an entire plane fleet. Even Marshalls can lose control. People are encaged on a flying aluminum tube, travelling on high speed. It's not really a pleasure to know that you have another person with a weapon on a situation like that. The same if you're in a submarine, or whatever vehicle you can't escape "just like that". Even a badge can be fake.
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 4 года назад
Don’t get mad just because I’m right. We were told for years, that if there was a hi-jacking, to just let the stewardesses handle it. Well, we saw how well that worked out.
@purplebunny7728
@purplebunny7728 3 года назад
This is one of the clearest communications I have heard. I could understand every word.
@Ruce650605
@Ruce650605 5 лет назад
Safety is the number one priority, even if it causes delays! Flight attendant did a good call on that
@nadinesteidl6153
@nadinesteidl6153 4 года назад
Wow. I’ve heard approximately 3,236 of these. I’m still amazed at the professionalism of the whole crew. Everyone should get substantial raises.
@kaddiddlehopper
@kaddiddlehopper 3 года назад
Several sources are blaming the flight attendant saying she "saw his gun and got scared." Doesn't sound like that's what happened. Sounds like terroristic threatening is what happened.
@jerome1lm
@jerome1lm 3 года назад
I mean, you should get scared if soneone shows you his gun on an airplane.
@jasonshansenshansens1715
@jasonshansenshansens1715 6 лет назад
GREAT job Flight Crew
@bcgrittner8076
@bcgrittner8076 3 года назад
I once worked with a guy who, according to rumor, was a retired FAM. He was strange bird. We worked corporate security together. He had endless stories about “I fingered this, and I fingered that”. That got tiresome.
@ROGER2095
@ROGER2095 5 лет назад
Badges? We're the Federales! We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinkin' badges!
@jamescain6414
@jamescain6414 5 лет назад
It's "No badges? We don't got no badges. We don't gotta show you no stinkin' badges!"
@CryptocurrencyInsider
@CryptocurrencyInsider 4 года назад
Air marshals are as necessary as a hemorrhoid.
@bilbobaggins9820
@bilbobaggins9820 6 лет назад
If the crew did not know there were FAMs on board, that is a serious breach, even worse with on FFDO on board.
@StrangePath
@StrangePath 6 лет назад
I want to be a pilot but their level of english intimidates me. I don't think I will ever be able to describe situation like this as clear as theirs.
@GSGWillSmith
@GSGWillSmith 6 лет назад
Sounds like one of these typical American "I have the gun, I am the law"- moments :P
@JoeBlac
@JoeBlac 6 лет назад
"Respect mah authoritah"
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 6 лет назад
Schlome Weissbergman-Goldsteinwits, Ph.D. That statement made no sense every context I could find to put it in.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 6 лет назад
Yeah. There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who have loaded guns and those who...
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 6 лет назад
Schlome Weissbergman-Goldsteinwits, Ph.D. Like I said, I'm completely baffled by what you are saying and why you are saying it within the context of the OP? What made you think the term "American" meant anything other than US citizen/ It seemed to me that the OP was being derisive and somewhat sanctimonious of US culture possibly based on information obtained via mass media versus actual experience. Perhaps you may be confused in the use of the term "American" as I believe the OP is using it narrowly to describe a "US citizen" as the more accurate term is more lengthy and cumbersome? Perhaps you are confused on the current requirements of US citizenship? This is why more information was needed in your post to make it understandable. Your second post was even less helpful as none of the various "naturalization acts" are anymore relevant to the current peoples contract with government than the Magnacarta. Look up the 14th amendment to the US constitution please.
@davidbarnett9312
@davidbarnett9312 6 лет назад
Millions of law abiding 'typical' Americans own firearms, but I'm pretty sure they don't go around telling everyone 'I have a gun, I am the law'.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 6 лет назад
Yeah, the air marshal is upset that the flight attendant contacted the pilots because now he is going to be suspended or better yet fired for his unprofessional conduct.
@christianbuczko1481
@christianbuczko1481 6 лет назад
Exactly, he fucked up, and was trying to cover his own ass and realised its too late.
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 6 лет назад
When the cabin door locks and he realized the plane was diverting to the nearest airport, I'm pretty sure he knew what was about to happen to his career. The only way it could have been worse is if a fighter escort appeared.
@6or7breadsticks
@6or7breadsticks 6 лет назад
He should be charged with something as an example. What he did is way out of line.
@BrianB14471
@BrianB14471 6 лет назад
@@rsrt6910 They didn't divert. MSP was the intended destination.
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 6 лет назад
Brian Boorman I don't believe that could be true. It would mean that people actually wanted to go there.
@TheWatanna
@TheWatanna 6 лет назад
The crew attendant did the right thing by telling the Captain. Safety first, and that idiot who showed his gun instead of his ID caused the problem not the attendant. The attendant did not know who he was, I think his ego was bigger than his gun and brain.
@QemeH
@QemeH 6 лет назад
Plus, the pilot is technically the FAM's superior. They don't view it that way, but the captain is considered head of the executive power on board. He has the final say in security matters. All the FA did was tell the chief on board that "his" guard was acting strange. Absolutely the right call, especially as it was unclear if there even WERE marshalls on the flight (i.e. the man could be an imposter).
@thedave7760
@thedave7760 6 лет назад
Since when did porn have dialogue? I'll have to investigate this.
@QemeH
@QemeH 6 лет назад
Thoroughly, I imagine.
@TheWatanna
@TheWatanna 6 лет назад
** I agree, he was a total idiot.
@androidkenobi
@androidkenobi 6 лет назад
retrained for bulk fuel in the USMC :) I heard the lowest passing scores go to a job called bulk fuel. I think I remember reading something like failing the ASVAB test means the DoD does not believe a person's intellect allows them to be trainable for any job. I wish all the bottom feeders in the federal employee system can be transferred to bulk fuel where they can at least serve some purpose (dragging heavy hoses) or GTFO.
@Billoreillyz
@Billoreillyz 6 лет назад
I love how all the news outlets said they "mistakenly" cuffed an air marshal amazing how when you listen to this there was no mistake they cuffed him because he screwed up flashing a gun.
@ThePandaKingFTW
@ThePandaKingFTW 4 года назад
@Patriots Rising Its as if there were no air marshals on those flights? Its been stated many times
@ThePandaKingFTW
@ThePandaKingFTW 4 года назад
@Patriots Rising Holy shit bro chill out lmfao. Acting like im defending nazis or something. Literally just stating facts, do you not think an extensive investigation was done after this happened? Not hard to find out exactly who was on those planes.
@FrogPondering
@FrogPondering 4 года назад
@Patriots Rising the sheer amount of insanity you're erupting is impressive
@MrPizack
@MrPizack 4 года назад
@Patriots Rising Words cannot express how unintelligent you seem
@jac1207
@jac1207 4 года назад
@@MrPizack be patient with him, he has the 'tism
@ih8tusernam3s
@ih8tusernam3s 5 лет назад
The captain was smart about this; he relayed the events to ATC. Now it's all documented so the air marshals can't make up a BS story.
@mamneo2
@mamneo2 5 лет назад
The Pilot can still lie on Radio... That does not disprove the version of these Air Marshals.
@ThrasherGnar
@ThrasherGnar 4 года назад
@@mamneo2 Pilots don't have a long history of lying on record, cops do...
@Apollo580
@Apollo580 4 года назад
mamneo2 There’s also the flight deck recording
@andmos1001
@andmos1001 4 года назад
mamneo2 oh and don’t forget the black box recording
@LavenderSystem69
@LavenderSystem69 4 года назад
@@mamneo2 Voice and data recorders, though... those NEVER lie
@W0X42A
@W0X42A 4 года назад
Just found this video, read the related news stories. Here is my two cents worth. Any law enforcement officer, whether your local beat cop, sheriff deputy, state police or federal officer from any agency derives their authority from their badge, not from their gun. Any LEO who is confused by the source of their authority should not be in that role. Your badge is the symbol of your authority, your gun is the tool by which you can exercise or abuse that authority.
@wallskog333
@wallskog333 3 года назад
well said
@norfolksouthernrailworks1543
@norfolksouthernrailworks1543 3 года назад
Wise man
@chucklebutt4470
@chucklebutt4470 3 года назад
@@norfolksouthernrailworks1543 toot toot
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 года назад
Their authority isn't from a badge, which can be easily acquired from eBay, but from the credentials accompanying the badge after a sworn oath is secured. The authority is granted as a matter of great public trust, which was abrogated by the firearm blandishing idiot. Laughably, that job is one of the hardest jobs to get fired from. Well, until that day.
@lesliemandic9673
@lesliemandic9673 3 года назад
Amen.
@isaacyuhas9325
@isaacyuhas9325 3 года назад
FAM: “Don’t worry, I’m an air Marshall” Flight Attendant: “Lol not anymore”
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 года назад
@TylOOOr D not any longer.Bringing disgrace to one's organization in a public trust position if lethal to one's career.
@jerryharrington1034
@jerryharrington1034 6 лет назад
Wow. That poor flight attendant must have been scared to death. What an outstanding job by the pilot and crew. Well done Captain !!
@ramairgto72
@ramairgto72 6 лет назад
I think that flight attendant caused this entire issue. Maybe his badge was next to his holstered weapon, and the weapon is ALL that attendant calculated and stopped any more thinking. This makes no REAL WORLD sense and everyone here knows that.
@anbooba
@anbooba 6 лет назад
@@ramairgto72 If you ever seen the air marshal ID, it can not fit next to the gun. But there wad a mishap sonewhere, Captain should have known, about the air marshals on board and if they are carrying guns or any person carrying gun on his flight. Most likely they are connecting flight!
@Eli-fj3sc
@Eli-fj3sc 5 лет назад
@@ramairgto72 not at all, can you imagine being a flight attendant and a passenger demands that they see a manifest for a single person and then flash a weapon. No, no, no, that does not fly and neither did that plane after that. Good job to the crew.
@rayford21
@rayford21 5 лет назад
@@anbooba Since it was an ERJ160 aircraft it was probably a regional airline contracted by United.
@xxxxxGhostBoyxxxxx
@xxxxxGhostBoyxxxxx 5 лет назад
@@ramairgto72 clearly you don't understand the SOP and ethics as armed officer. You SHOULD concealed your firearm at all times. With or without purpose.
@CarrieMK
@CarrieMK 4 года назад
“Don’t do anything you wouldn’t want reported to the flight deck,” is generally a good rule of thumb when you’re on a plane.
@guitourney
@guitourney 4 года назад
@MrCloudseeker offloading visibly intoxicated people is standard SOP
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 4 года назад
@Patriots Rising ...looks like we found the alcoholic...
@SirValiantIII
@SirValiantIII 6 лет назад
"I think I need to stop coming to Minneapolis" hahaha
@baganatube
@baganatube 6 лет назад
Tower didn't know how to respond to that. :D
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 6 лет назад
Or stop flying for United,... or both :P
@RuggedBrotha
@RuggedBrotha 6 лет назад
Stay outta New York. The people and the city are Shit Buckets and PooPoo mouths,
@BinaryShad0
@BinaryShad0 6 лет назад
There is NO reason to go to that shit hole
@haroldk724
@haroldk724 5 лет назад
that was classic...I love that
@GunNtonic
@GunNtonic 6 лет назад
Sure this will make it to the FAM training academy as what not to do.
@93hothead
@93hothead 6 лет назад
Lol
@pmvaldez1
@pmvaldez1 6 лет назад
I'm sure it already is.
@Pacmannion
@Pacmannion 6 лет назад
Umm... what? Air marshals don't wear uniforms. Half the crap your saying doesn't make sense whatsoever.
@blindleader42
@blindleader42 6 лет назад
"Half the crap"? It's wall to wall nonsense that Levine appears to believe demonstrates his wisdom.
@6teezkid
@6teezkid 6 лет назад
GunNtonic A big 10-4 on that one.
@driftspecs13
@driftspecs13 6 лет назад
Quick correction: the First Officer is an FFDO (not FSDO)--Federal Flight Deck Officer, which is a commercial pilot trained as a federal law enforcement officer under the TSA. They're armed pilots and are akin to Air Marshals, with their jurisdiction being the aircraft itself.
@TristanL3
@TristanL3 3 года назад
‘We didn’t know we had FAMs on board’, don’t they have to make the flight crew aware of the presence and don’t the flight crew seat the Air Marshal? So for 2 to be on board and to flash a gun not a badge? I’d have called ATC too
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 года назад
No, they don't seat the air marshal, but they are to be informed that armed agents are aboard, just like any other potential hazards to the aircraft.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 4 года назад
Being upset with the flight attendant for calling the cabin is like a crook being upset you called the cops after he robbed you.
@newtonianromance
@newtonianromance 6 лет назад
What a cowboy...should lose his job for being so unprofessional.
@mikefuquay9903
@mikefuquay9903 6 лет назад
I tip my hat to the flight crew for being so cautious about the whole situation. What a mess.
@JeffryJohnston
@JeffryJohnston 6 лет назад
badges don't grant extra rights
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 6 лет назад
@@JeffryJohnston- No, but authorized agents of the state have POWERS not granted to others. These powers are not "rights" in a personal, civil or constitutional sense. A state agent who uses his/her powers for personal advantage is abusing that power and may be committing a crime.
@untitled6981
@untitled6981 6 лет назад
huh? whatever you say Osama
@B-System
@B-System 4 года назад
@Quack Quark I mean basically if someone asks you if you are an air marshal you should show them your badge, which only an air marshal would have, as opposed to your gun, which an air marshal or a lunatic might have
@AL-so5tl
@AL-so5tl 3 года назад
@@algrayson8965 a federal agent abusing any of his/her power is subject to public execution, his/her family as well
@brianhaygood183
@brianhaygood183 3 года назад
Now go look at the news reports on this. That gives you just a glimpse of how completely unreliable news reporters are. Some even start out talking about the attendant "freaking out because she saw a gun", then further down reveal they actually have the entire story, but still they decided to frame it this way. Others say police "mistakenly" remove an air marshal. Just garbage.
@s_low_s10
@s_low_s10 2 года назад
thats main stream media for ya
@cynagen
@cynagen 2 года назад
They're not going to smear the cops or air marshals, once people figure out it's all security theater (see reports of how often TSA actually passes their inspections for proof) and not actual security they'll demand that the TSA and air marshals no longer be a thing and they clearly don't want that.
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 5 лет назад
"How dare you call the pilots and complain about my actions!" has the same energy as "Don't be a tattle tale, I can break the rules if I want!". Kindergarten attitude, smh...
@ChicagoMel23
@ChicagoMel23 4 года назад
No it isn’t “typical”. Most police are decent people
@mikaelgaiason688
@mikaelgaiason688 3 года назад
*cop attitude
@mikaelgaiason688
@mikaelgaiason688 3 года назад
@@ChicagoMel23 Most police are sad losers who can't get a real job. Statistically it's the worst job for attracting mentally and emotionally unstable trash
@CloudyNimitz
@CloudyNimitz 3 года назад
@@mikaelgaiason688 That's a cool opinion. Let me know who you're going to call next time you come home to your house being robbed. And don't say you will defend yourself, since I know you're one of those anti-gun freaks.
@mikaelgaiason688
@mikaelgaiason688 3 года назад
@@CloudyNimitz My house has been broken into. Cops didn't do shit. Had a crazy ex once that stole my rifle, which was a family heirloom, and take it across state lines. Cops didn't do shit. They're useless losers that do nothing for society except daylight roadside robbery. Ive defended myself plenty of times. Didn't grow up in your secluded protected world. And I'm not anti-gun. I'm anti-stupid-scared-pussies-with-guns
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m 6 лет назад
I really hope that air marshal loses his job for that behavior.
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 6 лет назад
They rode off into the sunset on their emotional support horses... 😅😅
@StillTyping913
@StillTyping913 6 лет назад
katie_incredible same.
@macmedic892
@macmedic892 6 лет назад
A federal employee? Ha! He’ll probably be promoted.
@StillTyping913
@StillTyping913 6 лет назад
macmedic892 it’s against their procedure to pull out a gun during a flight. They can be fired for it.
@SupaEMT134
@SupaEMT134 6 лет назад
Wait. *What behavior?* FOR DOING HIS JOB??!
@Beateau
@Beateau 4 года назад
As a former FA it's not unusual for working FAMs to not disclose their presence, but it is uncommon. The whole gun instead of badge thing, yeah..... Was this the FAM that was stalking his ex-wife, or am I thinking of something else?
@selftrue670
@selftrue670 6 лет назад
Pilot DEFINITELY did the right thing. No doubt whatsoever. That marshal is terminated for sure.
@Richbroth
@Richbroth 5 лет назад
@@LegendLength no
@guitaristxcore
@guitaristxcore 5 лет назад
@@LegendLength That really doesnt matter. If the FA didnt see the badge then hes just some nut with a gun on a commercial flight.
@JoeKingAudits
@JoeKingAudits 4 года назад
Nope
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 4 года назад
he most likely kept his job. no one die. the fed gov dont even fire you when you shot a women holding a baby
@zd_mon
@zd_mon 4 года назад
@@LegendLength his gun was next to his badge, and his dick was next to his gun. See where I'm going with this?
@kellyrayburn4093
@kellyrayburn4093 4 года назад
The flight attendant shouldn't have called the flight deck to report him displaying his weapon? What kind of training did that guy have? In such a situation, informing the flight deck is standard procedure and the attendant has *NO* discretion. Informing the flight deck is mandatory. Had he displayed his badge, the attendant would have discretion. Displaying a deadly weapon removes that discretion.
@kellyrayburn4093
@kellyrayburn4093 4 года назад
@Patriots Rising Only air marshals and other authorized law enforcement officers are allowed to carry firearms onto a commercial airline. All law enforcement personnel have badges. Heck, even security guards (rent a cops) have badges.
@TimThomason
@TimThomason 4 года назад
@@kellyrayburn4093 Yeah, and he would have a badge that identified him as an Air Marshall. In a perfect scenario, he would display his badge to her, nothing else. Then she would likely inform the cockpit of an FAM onboard, Badge Number Such-and-Such. They would confirm that he was who he said he was, inform the Attendant, and she would then allow him access to the manifest. Instead, he tried to skip most of those steps to prove he was legit because he had a pistol, as only FAMs are authorized to have firearms, and idiotically didn't realize how threatening this would seem.
@kellyrayburn4093
@kellyrayburn4093 4 года назад
@@TimThomason I agree. Display his badge allow her to take the badge number to relay to the cockpit to confirm. Once confirmed, give him access to the manifest. Just displaying the weapon without the badge is idiocy cubed.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 4 года назад
I'm gonna take a wild guess and bet that 99.99% of people who ask about the manifest and have a gun in their holster are air marshals. If the stewardess wasn't sure from all the clues, she could easily ask for his badge, before going nuclear. This incident has idiots everywhere you look.
@kellyrayburn4093
@kellyrayburn4093 4 года назад
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I'm sorry, but displaying a firearm for *ANY* reason other than absolutely necessary defense of life is unacceptable. He should have shown her his badge so she could relay the badge number to the flight deck for them to confirm. Once they have confirmed that this is an on duty FAM in the performance of his duty, they can give him access to the manifest. The fact that he displayed his firearm before he displayed his badge is a direct violation of Standard Operating Procedure and is grounds to declare an emergency. The flight attendant did absolutely *NOTHING* wrong here. Had she not informed the flight deck of this person displaying his firearm, she would have been derelict in her duty. That is a termination offense.
@copflyer6569
@copflyer6569 4 года назад
A former brother police officer I worked with left and became a FAM. He thought it would be exciting to be an Air Marshall carrying Federal credentials. It didn’t take long for him to learn that a FAM is the most boring uneventful job out of all the Federal Govt. law enforcement agencies. This guy’s actions were totally inappropriate and the flight crew handled it in a very professional manner.
@MichaelKingsfordGray
@MichaelKingsfordGray 2 года назад
Liar.
@PointlessGunSyncs
@PointlessGunSyncs 6 лет назад
*You gotta chill FAM*
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 6 лет назад
Get out
@AntiNoobDefence
@AntiNoobDefence 6 лет назад
Lmao
@PointlessGunSyncs
@PointlessGunSyncs 6 лет назад
@@Kay_213_ chill *FAM*
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 6 лет назад
😒
@flynnlivescmd
@flynnlivescmd 5 лет назад
@@PointlessGunSyncs youre dumb n young
@bigal7561
@bigal7561 3 года назад
This Captain and flight crew should be training crews on how to handle and emergency. No panic just doing the job. Outstanding. The crewman that reported it should get a bonus as should all of the crew on that plane. The captain runs a tight ship. Well done by all including the Tower
@scuds03
@scuds03 4 года назад
I used to fly armed all the time (Federal LE) and I never received training which included displaying a firearm as a form of identification while flying lol. Badge/Creds and UFAN
@billwalker7556
@billwalker7556 3 года назад
You have to be a FEDERAL LAW enforcement officer (LEO) as you said and know that only Federal LEO'S may carry weapons on board. I am an FAA trained and certified Airline Ground Security Coordinator. I am contacted if an armed FEDERAL LEO is booked on a flight. I am required to check credentials and introduce him to the pilot in command and the head flight attendant. So many protocols were broken and ignored by a FEDERAL LEO who knows the rules and regulations but chose to ignore them. Honestly, it's scary and possibly a very dangerous situation. He is done in any type law enforcement occupation and could very well be sentenced to jail time in addition to being terminated. He may also be ordered by a FEDERAL judge to undergo a psychological examination based on his actions.
@mustang6172
@mustang6172 6 лет назад
Air Marshals: They cost millions of dollars and have yet to arrest a single terrorist.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 6 лет назад
Because the terrs go somewhere else. Just that passengers swarm people who scare them is quite a deterrent. Instead the terrs go shoot up a school or bomb a mall.
@jetfrostgaming
@jetfrostgaming 5 лет назад
Both the underwear and shoe bomber were stopped by the passengers. If some guy gets bright ideas, the passengers will stop them, it's not a new concept.
@glasstuna
@glasstuna 5 лет назад
@@jetfrostgaming after flight 93, yeah, the passengers will not sit quietly and wait to die.
@jetfrostgaming
@jetfrostgaming 5 лет назад
@@glasstuna Indeed friend, I'd raise a freaking butter knife like Braveheart if I had to! ;D
@NLTops
@NLTops 5 лет назад
@rgtrooper13 dickhead is one word. But I'm sure you had plenty of time for that extra spacebar you unemployed arse. Of all the things to freaking complain about.
@calyodelphi124
@calyodelphi124 6 лет назад
When the people you trust to keep your flight safe and secure do the exact absolute opposite of that........ Hope he loses his job for that. A keeper of the peace who reaches first for his tool of war when there is no immediate threat to the lives of others should not be a keeper of the peace.
@victorsantillan2276
@victorsantillan2276 6 лет назад
Calyo Delphi thats no tool of war you idiot
@pluto8404
@pluto8404 6 лет назад
Tool of freedom
@pawepluta4883
@pawepluta4883 6 лет назад
@@victorsantillan2276 Yeah, sure. That's a soup-eating tool.
@victorsantillan2276
@victorsantillan2276 6 лет назад
Paweł Pluta i eat with my glock 17. Whats wromg with that
@Mr_Dumpty
@Mr_Dumpty 6 лет назад
I think you're the idiot if you think a firearm is not a tool of war.
@maxjasmine
@maxjasmine 4 года назад
The pilot in commands authority is above all others when airborne,he got it right.
@crazymasina8524
@crazymasina8524 4 года назад
"I told her I was a fuckin air marshal, she looked at me like I was crazy... she new I was for real when I showed her my gun" "Yeah Rick about that...."
@00BillyTorontoBill
@00BillyTorontoBill 6 лет назад
Whisper : "im an air marshall and I want to look at the manifest...do you want to see my badge? ...or if you dont like your job...whip out your gun.
@vikingbase
@vikingbase 4 года назад
"We don't need no stinkin badges"
@MangelBanselmo
@MangelBanselmo 4 года назад
@@vikingbase lmao
@danowolf
@danowolf 4 года назад
Smart pilot, all that he says over the radio is cemented in the record, no twisting the official record later or certainly making it harder. Also if your ever in a situation like this, make one written statement, take a photo of it with your cell phone and when asked to repeat what happened only refer to the first written statement, no deviation or they pounce.
@VoteMarkPolk
@VoteMarkPolk 4 года назад
Interesting. I knew a FAM and he was fired for pointing his duty weapon at a man and his elderly father at a Newark airport. He was arrested and fired later. He joined a DC govt sub agency and was fired from there as well for having an illegal assault weapon. He was reinstated and was fired again for falsifying paperwork. Cruddy agency but a more cruddy person. He was someone who had police tattooed on his butt because no one would believe he was every smart enough to earn a badge. I am sure other FAMs may know who I am speaking of.
@bEEBO178
@bEEBO178 4 года назад
Sounds like an out of control unpredictable narcissist. Should be heavily fined, stripped of his badge and never allowed in a flight again.
@Nikolai18A
@Nikolai18A 4 года назад
Brickyard 3531 sounded young, and betrayed his youth with experience and outstanding professionalism. Props, brother. Friendly skies are always preferable.
@zertmcdirt7843
@zertmcdirt7843 3 года назад
You just assumed age and gender . . . You MONSTER!
@natepeace1737
@natepeace1737 3 года назад
“Badges! We don’t need no stinking badges!!!” - Former Air Marshal
@DeepFakeLofi
@DeepFakeLofi 4 года назад
"Badge? What's that?" "But here, let me show you my cool gun!"
@vikingbase
@vikingbase 4 года назад
"We don't need no stinkin badges"
@junqueboi387
@junqueboi387 6 лет назад
Great rapport between RPA3531 and the Tower. Great catch, VASAviation!
@mdnealy4097
@mdnealy4097 6 лет назад
The FBI called the incident miscommunication. The above video stated it was not SOP to show a weapon instead of a badge. I've seen nothing to suggest the Air Marshall is suspended .
@yammmit
@yammmit 5 лет назад
Franken HateGooPlus this is pretty great, they’re both calm and collected and sound like they enjoy what they’re doing.
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 6 лет назад
I hope that air marshal is severely disciplined. Totally out of line showing his gun.
@111himan
@111himan 6 лет назад
I bet it had to do with a cute flight attendant
@pmvaldez1
@pmvaldez1 6 лет назад
@@111himan he showed her the wrong gun.
@kaio37k
@kaio37k 6 лет назад
It was the only gun he had longer than 4 inches.
@greenbeagle13
@greenbeagle13 6 лет назад
Hopefully, fired....
@JoeKingAudits
@JoeKingAudits 4 года назад
Nope
@1990chrism
@1990chrism 4 года назад
Air Marshal: "oh shit I can't find my badge!, I'm gonna get into so much trouble if I don't see this manifest.." Also Air Marshal : "I know I can show my gun instead, that will prove i'm a Air Marshal and not a hijacker...." *Air Marshal ends up in much worse trouble for breaking protocol, intimidating cabin crew and causing the emergency grounding of the flight*
@vitom5513
@vitom5513 3 года назад
The badge don't mean shit anyway. He has to show his creds.
@eddiecanis
@eddiecanis 6 лет назад
I chuckles at "nothing more memorable then this" and pilot like OH i don't know "last time i came here it was a medical emergancy"
@spicyweasel
@spicyweasel 6 лет назад
Haha yeah, he had some bad luck with Minneapolis!
@jonathanbair523
@jonathanbair523 6 лет назад
As a kid my family would call it Minnehopelis not Minneapolis. Then Again I grew up on the St. Paul side of the river of the twin citys.
@Max_R_MaMint
@Max_R_MaMint 6 лет назад
At first I read that as "Many hopeless", lol
@jonathanbair523
@jonathanbair523 6 лет назад
LOL
@653j521
@653j521 6 лет назад
Jonathan Bair You grew up there and don't know it is written as twin cities?
@armastat
@armastat 5 лет назад
The flight crew acted correctly. Even if the Marshall ID'd himself correctly with the badge. Them not being notified that marshals were on board is an issue that needed to be reported to the Captain & passed on to their OPs at the very least. Showing of the gun is forbidden PERIOD, except if they have to pull it on a suspect. I think the Marshals got on the flight to capture a suspect getting on at a mid route stop and they didn't show (or couldn't ID him/her) and the guy was upset over that. but very unprofessional either way and to be honest considering how minor things get regular passengers slapped with the Federal Crime of disturbing an aircraft these guys should of as well.
@Awsome17203
@Awsome17203 Год назад
Air Marshals are on planes anonymously so the crew is never notified unless something serious occurs
@armastat
@armastat Год назад
@@Awsome17203 Ride alongs are not notified ahead of time. those are there for airplane security in case something happens. If they are there for ANY other official reason, especially if armed. they do have to notify the captain. To be clear. The marshals don't tell the captain. TSA security will do that when the marshall comes through security When they ID themselves and state their reasons. That said each airline has their own set of procedures on this.
@willoliver9960
@willoliver9960 6 лет назад
The flight attendant did the right thing, upon being confronted by an armed individual on a passenger flight, the flight attended informed the pilots that an individual with a gun was on-board was making demands and revealing the gun (this could easily be interpreted as an implied threat of violence against the flight attendant and/or other crew/passengers). The pilots responded appropriately by securing the cockpit and informing authorities on the ground, keeping the cockpit secure until authorities on the ground could confirm the incident had been resolved. The behaviour of the Air Marshal seemed to be ignorant of the responsibilities of the other parties involved with air security procedures. I suspect this Air Marshal needs to be retrained to instill an awareness of the roles and responsibilities of flight attendants and pilots in air security, to avoid initiating a chain of events similar to the one depicted in this video, in which the actions of the Air Marshal cause the crew of this airliner to respond using their established procedures for dealing with a possible hostile threat to the plane and those aboard it. The Air Marshal should probably also be informed that showing a gun to people going about their usual business in their place of work is, inherently, an extremely threatening action and should be avoided in other locations as well, such as while returning items at a department store, or demanding more whipped cream on a fancy coffee at the coffee shop. Based on this individual's apparent indignation at being treated as a threat by the air crew, I'm not certain the Air Marshal is already aware of this.
@thegeneralissimo470
@thegeneralissimo470 6 лет назад
exactly, this isn't Texas, this is Minnesota. You do that here, we won't say anything about it, but we'll be really uncomfortable and passive aggressive.
@watchgoose
@watchgoose 5 лет назад
the cockpit is ALWAYS secured. Been that way since 9/11.
@papaguy2001
@papaguy2001 5 лет назад
@Scot Rule do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
@andmos1001
@andmos1001 4 года назад
Will Oliver not re-educated, the Air Marshal should be fired on the spot because of his conduct. This where interpreted as an attempted hi jack by the pilot because they have most likely squatted 7500 due to the tower asking them to switch the transponder from on to either their original signal or standby
@jamesjacocks6221
@jamesjacocks6221 4 года назад
What is your definition of "confronted"? What demands were made?
@yoopernow
@yoopernow 5 лет назад
"According to the incident report, a flight attendant told investigators she was sitting in the front gallery when a passenger approached and, "demanded to see the passenger manifest. After telling him no, she said the passenger responded by saying, "didn't they tell you me and my partner (redacted) were on board? When the flight attendant asked for his credentials, she says he said "how about this for credentials," and then lifted up his shirt to reveal a handgun." Same Flight: "The flight attendant told investigators one of the air marshals got out of his seat to check his bag in the overhead compartments while the plane was still taxiing down the runway. When she instructed him to sit down, the report states the air marshal refused to listen. The marshal retrieved his Federal Air Marshal badge from his bag and showed it to the flight attendant." - KSTP December 4, 2018 [We're from the Federal Government and we're here to help you...]
@rafaeloda
@rafaeloda 5 лет назад
I really hope he is a mall security officer now.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 4 года назад
@Flat FLSTF don't worry, you won't ever be a Marshall, they don't hire highschool drop outs.
@xXJMatherXx
@xXJMatherXx 4 года назад
@Flat FLSTF Go try that with a police officer idiot. Police: "Hey are if you say you're an FBI agent, please show us your badge" Flat FLSTF: Lifts up his shirt to show his gun. Police: Immediately tackle him, if not shoot him first. You really are a special one aren't you bud?
@JosephWiess
@JosephWiess 4 года назад
FAM's and TSA: capturing no terrorist since 9/11/2001.......
@OttoMattak
@OttoMattak 4 года назад
I'm here on behalf of the internet idiots awards committee. We understand that there's a winner here. Thanks s g, looks like you found the perfect candidate.
@bcgrittner8076
@bcgrittner8076 3 года назад
As a retired armored truck guy I have dealt with various law enforcement types who think they are hot stuff. I can have an ATM open, and they think they can approach me and show their badges and everything is OK. WRONG! I told one to shove his badge somewhere and another to get a refund on his toy badge from Walmart. They did not need to approach. Their behavior was unprofessional.
@gtpk3527
@gtpk3527 4 года назад
I looked up some articles about this, and to the surprise of I presume absolutely nobody, TSA blamed to flight attendant that she 'failed to recognize that armed individual is an air marshal'.
@brendalg4
@brendalg4 4 года назад
Thanks, now I don't have to look it up
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 4 года назад
Honestly... the guy asked to see the manifest and showed a gun in his holster. If those clues weren't enough, it's quite a simple matter to ask for the badge. What's the other explanation? A crazy man is playing 'air marshal', and can somehow get a gun through security, but doesn't know that air marshals have a badge? Duh. Forehead smack. Duh.
@m2heavyindustries378
@m2heavyindustries378 4 года назад
"SHUTUP, sir"
@simmer484
@simmer484 4 года назад
​@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 You are missing the point. Having an armed agent on board who is willing to use his gun as a negotiating tool would alarm any Captain I am sure. Badge revealed or not.
@lightravenn
@lightravenn 4 года назад
You still have to follow the rules, you cant showoff guns. The correct way was to show badge identifying himself, and asking for the captain permission to take a look at the manifest.
@boostedM
@boostedM 6 лет назад
Round of applause for the crew. What a mess of a situation
@KOZMOuvBORG
@KOZMOuvBORG 4 года назад
That's great, the people hired to protect passengers are prone to having 'control issues'
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 4 года назад
Actually, it sounds more like the stewardess has issues. It would have been so simple to ask for the badge... and instead she called a SWAT team on the guy, without even asking for it. What a nutcase.
@mikaelgaiason688
@mikaelgaiason688 3 года назад
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I take it you're a trumptard...
@AL-so5tl
@AL-so5tl 3 года назад
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 you are low
@billwalker7556
@billwalker7556 3 года назад
FAM'S have a reputation of being overbearing, rude and condescending. Thier job is to protect the cockpit...period. Discretion is paramount and he broke many protocols with his attitude and actions.
@billwalker7556
@billwalker7556 3 года назад
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 That's wrong. She followed procedure. He did not. Her actions were appropriately correct.
@PHX787
@PHX787 6 лет назад
the dictionary definition of utmost professionalism. and that pilot deserves a month off...and a beer from the excellent airport bars at MSP!
@MrLikeke
@MrLikeke 6 лет назад
The pilot was too wordy on freq. Exuberant even.
@matthiaspatzelt3085
@matthiaspatzelt3085 5 лет назад
Secret Squirrel as no one else was transmitting on that freq, I guess they were assigned a dedicated frequency for exactly that purpose, so they could relay details of the (possible) emergency without blocking the freq for anyone else
@LunaticTheCat
@LunaticTheCat 2 года назад
@@MrLikeke It was good that he explained the whole situation on frequency, it helped law enforcement on the ground understand exactly what was going on
@CAv-lp2qk
@CAv-lp2qk 6 лет назад
"Sir, we're gonna need you to calm down"
@Neilram2001
@Neilram2001 6 лет назад
C. Av “what you mean, you people?”
@CAv-lp2qk
@CAv-lp2qk 6 лет назад
"I AM CALM!!!" xD
@androidkenobi
@androidkenobi 6 лет назад
Sir, u just said "BOMB" on an airplane!
@vikingbase
@vikingbase 4 года назад
"We don't need no stinkin badges"
@sfctapia4529
@sfctapia4529 4 года назад
😅😂😂😂😂😂
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 6 лет назад
Sounds like the flight crew did exactly what they should have done. Air Marshals are suppose to be secret. If the guy really is and air marshal, he should be fired.
@JoeKingAudits
@JoeKingAudits 4 года назад
He wasn't
@carbon1255
@carbon1255 4 года назад
@MLU8811 Not being a FAM anymore and being fired are ENTIRELY different, Just promoting him away, protecting their own. Public dishonourable discharge is what is required. That man should never work again, and be thankful he wasn't brained.
@Glideslopes
@Glideslopes 6 лет назад
No need to show the gun. Should be dismissed immediately with prejudice.
@JoeKingAudits
@JoeKingAudits 4 года назад
Was not
@SenorAhole
@SenorAhole 6 лет назад
Sounds like the air marshal got into a fight with a passenger and wanted to lookup their name on the manifest
@kimberlymartin8784
@kimberlymartin8784 3 года назад
Nothing at all scary bout that!
@murraystewartj
@murraystewartj 5 лет назад
Great coordination between pilot, controllers and emergency services. Get the plane on the ground and in a secure place, then sort out the mess. Just because a guy is an air marshal doesn't mean he hasn't gone off the deep end. First priority is to keep everyone safe. Listen to these guys - so calm and professional and keeping each other informed. Just another "yawn" day at the office.
@edtherockhound9944
@edtherockhound9944 6 лет назад
I really appreciate the professionalism of the pilots and atc wow great job guys thank you for making our flying experience safe and enjoyable
@carschmn
@carschmn 6 лет назад
This could have turned into a disaster. The Air Marshal was armed and stupid and the flight officer was approved with United Airlines to be armed. Hope the Air Marshal gets reprimanded since he walked up to the flight attendant, flashed his gun, and demanded to see the manifest.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 6 лет назад
Didn't say he "flashed" his gun, only that she saw it.
@thomaspayne6866
@thomaspayne6866 5 лет назад
Al Grayson -- “he showed”.
@Airboss59
@Airboss59 4 года назад
Must of been a rookie, as a retired federal officer you never flash your weapon to anyone that’s why you have Credentials.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 6 лет назад
*“When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power... like God must feel when he's holding a gun!”*
@Nicholas-f5
@Nicholas-f5 5 лет назад
lol
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 6 лет назад
Since when did Air Marshalls become what they were supposed to prevent?
@russell2952
@russell2952 4 года назад
Since they started advertizing for the position on late night TV and in pizza boxes.
@johnboyjr21
@johnboyjr21 4 года назад
@ Air marshalls always had guns idiot
@johnboyjr21
@johnboyjr21 4 года назад
@ Wow so you're saying air marshals didn't exist before 9/11?
@johnboyjr21
@johnboyjr21 4 года назад
@ Yeahhh screw Israel. And air marshals had guns in 1961
@TitanFlare
@TitanFlare 3 года назад
@@johnboyjr21 well, Air Marshal are employees are TSA. TSA was created after 9/11. So
@Anonymous-it5jw
@Anonymous-it5jw 4 года назад
Thank God for highly trained professionals - air crew, that is!
@Ken-lp9qt
@Ken-lp9qt 6 лет назад
Tower....Brickyard 3531... Uh..Two intoxicated passengers seated in the rear of aircraft have choked out the Air Marshals. Advice police...potential issue is neutralized and aircraft is secure.
@Gizziiusa
@Gizziiusa 5 лет назад
i'd like to see the worldstar coverage of that...
@robertzeurunkl8401
@robertzeurunkl8401 5 лет назад
Agree with flight crew, even though I am total "law and order", "police supporter" kinda guy. But I also work for an airline company. You have to consider the FA. All she saw was a gun. That's all. A guy asking for the passenger manifest, with a gun, and *claiming* to be a Marshall without a badge. I'd have done the same thing. Tell the captain.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 4 года назад
Don't you think it would be quite simple to ask for the badge? Why all the sneaking around and secret squirrel BS? Isn't it pretty obvious that a man who is asking for the manifest, and has a gun in a holster is probably an air marshal? And it would be so simple to confirm that he IS an air marshal, with just one question.
@gazzarafalemozzy4766
@gazzarafalemozzy4766 4 года назад
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 because you nit wit, if the guy WAS NOT an actual marshal and he believes the FA isnt buying his fake story, then he may escalate the situation and she may have been killed
@DavidTheRoss
@DavidTheRoss 4 года назад
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Classic bootlicker logic 🤡🔫
@robertzeurunkl8401
@robertzeurunkl8401 4 года назад
@Charlotte Innoecent Yep!
@XM-qk5sh
@XM-qk5sh 3 года назад
You can support law and order and still be critical of this idiot. That is not how you identify yourself as a LEO. That's from 25 years on the job.
@syntaxis5584
@syntaxis5584 4 года назад
4:42 typo its "FFDO" (Federal Flight Deck Officer) not "FSDO" (Flight Standards District Offices)
@bryanp.1327
@bryanp.1327 4 года назад
Thanks for that, I was googling the wrong thing and wondering how the statement of them not being armed made sense.
@AngelVazquez-xh1dh
@AngelVazquez-xh1dh 4 года назад
I can imagine the presumptuous guy just showing his gun hidden somewhere in his clothes... Trying to impress the lady... And after a few minutes getting mad realizing that he screwed it up
@TakeDeadAim
@TakeDeadAim 6 лет назад
Back in 2002 I was accepted to FAM training(down in AZ IIRC at that time) after having interviewed out in NJ of all places and was set to go when they pulled the guaranteed "home" assignment(home airport). The remaining options were NOT an option to me so I passed. I've been in several three letter agencies since and was prior military SOF as well. I still know a couple of the guys I've met through the years and can say with a fairly high level of confidence that the guy flashing his "ack ack" will be soon looking for a job in a small town where the only "gun" he'll be flashing to unsuspecting civies will be his radar gun while eating boxes of Good-n-Plenty from his speed trap. Yeah...he's D-O-N-E. No question...
@christianbuczko1481
@christianbuczko1481 6 лет назад
I hope so, its just a pity they didn't have him dragged off and arrested for it. The fact he was upset with the flight attendant shows he knew he'd fucked up.
@markmaki4460
@markmaki4460 6 лет назад
It seems the two marshals were handcuffed by local police and released after questioning. www.aeroinside.com/item/11959/republic-e170-near-minneapolis-on-aug-20th-2018-unruly-air-marshal
@snowdoggieii
@snowdoggieii 6 лет назад
Now that it has gone public and everyone knows their faces
@cynthiaklenk6313
@cynthiaklenk6313 6 лет назад
Thank you - this now I would hope, "ex-agent" was everything you do NOT want on board an aircraft! What a Barney Fife!!!!!!! Well actually he'll be lucky if they give him an unloaded weapon, and one bullet he has to keep in a buttoned pocket (ala Barney Fife)!
@Wizzardgirl
@Wizzardgirl 6 лет назад
Hey .. thank you very much for your service to our country. Nice to know folks with brains still work for us! I appreciate it very much, sir or maam!
@davidross5593
@davidross5593 4 года назад
I agree with the flight the FAM showing a firearm is suspicious and also threatening, no doubt illegal since it is against SOP for FS. Showing the badge would have been correct.
@coreywilliams1454
@coreywilliams1454 6 лет назад
Welcome to FAMs trainining, day one. Now before we get started, the first thing you should know is never to display your firearm to anyone onboard any aircraft.
@Utuber209
@Utuber209 4 года назад
I hate to say it, but television has a lot to do with things like this. Federal Agents don't actually get as much training as one might think (I can only speak for the agency I worked for) but there sure are a lot of TV programs that show the feds doing outrageous things that are completely outside the realm of legality, morality and policy. Some very small-brained agents that let the job go to their head, have done things like this and a lot worse. Glad no one was hurt.
@MichaelPhelpsMedia
@MichaelPhelpsMedia 4 года назад
I'm utterly impressed with this Capitan from Republic. Move him up to the big jets!
@austinthrowsstuff
@austinthrowsstuff 3 года назад
2 air Marshall’s on 1 flight? I’m guessing it was some type of training and the newbie showed the gun lol
@adambrady6675
@adambrady6675 6 лет назад
A badge clipped on belt next to weapon might not have hurt any. He should know better. A bad way to get a date from a flight attendant. Imagine if she beat him with a coffee pot, or a pillow case full of stale dinner rolls.
@fosterb300
@fosterb300 5 лет назад
I'm a Sun Country Mechanic, I was taxing our plane when this happened
@ScarletFlower95
@ScarletFlower95 4 года назад
"I think I need to stop coming to Minneapolis" haha
@christinestill5002
@christinestill5002 5 лет назад
Requirements for Air Marshals kinda lose: you'd expect retired cops, FBI, maybe retired Secret Service, sheriff's plus some training but too many are honchos anxious to look authoritative. I no longer know who hires, screens or hopefully, trains these folks. Should be "Homeland Security" but they have enough immigration jerks of their own. So that pilots instincts were correct imo. (Ret. cop/det)
@Gkitchens1
@Gkitchens1 5 лет назад
Incredible job by the pilots, arc and crew at handling the situation smoothly and professionally.
@elpepinazo7801
@elpepinazo7801 3 года назад
1) Crew not notified by FAMs on Board. 2) FAM shows gun, not his badge to FA. 3) FAM gets upset with FA because the cockpit was notified! 3) Flight Deck crew did the right thing! Hopefully, FAMs got canned........worthless.
@wwlb4970
@wwlb4970 4 года назад
Well, I don't know the whole story, but it COULD BE that air marshals did not 'show' guns deliberately, rather flight attendant got frightened when he\she saw it. Perhaps, ID tag was on a belt, near the gun. Normally, a gun attracts view more than even a shiny badge. Maybe the gun was hidden under the shoulder, and while the AM was picking his inner pocket to pop the badge, the gun showed up. In that case, it takes seconds for a flight attendant to report gun holder on board and a week for gun holder to explain oneself.
@kentuckyblugrass
@kentuckyblugrass 5 лет назад
Sounds like the FAM's ego got in the way.
@Ryan-re1rs
@Ryan-re1rs 4 года назад
The money it cost because of one stupid person. He better have been fired that day. Wow....
@dknowles60
@dknowles60 4 года назад
fed gov workers almost never get fired
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 4 года назад
SO just what would have happened if a fellow passenger saw that unidentified passenger brandishing a gun, and used lethal force to subdue the Terrorist? Because THAT is what that air marshall was, at that moment. Showing his gun, no identification? If you were to try that, you would get a quick trip to Gitmo, or a morgue. Why should the air marshal operate under different rules?
@brch2
@brch2 4 года назад
"SO just what would have happened if a fellow passenger saw that unidentified passenger brandishing a gun, and used lethal force to subdue the Terrorist?" The second Marshall on the flight would have shot the passenger, and created an even bigger shit show.
@FusionStream
@FusionStream 3 года назад
Brandishing?
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 3 года назад
@@FusionStream Dictionary definition of Brandishing: Brandishing means showing the weapon, or exhibiting it to another person, “in a rude, angry or threatening manner”.. Which is *******EXACTLY******* what this marshall did. You did watch the video, didn't you?
@FusionStream
@FusionStream 3 года назад
@@marvinkitfox3386 wow. Just from that reply, we can already tell a lot about you. Just because **YOU** or the FA felt threatened, it's doesn't mean it was exhibited in a threatening manner.
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 3 года назад
@@FusionStream @fusionstream You sweet little idiot. THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT is the one that reported the event. what is relevant is how the action appeared TO THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT.
@Jkstolz
@Jkstolz 6 лет назад
He shows his gun to the flight attendant and said he wanted to see the manifesto!? Wow ..Who does that and still had a job afterwards? I bet he's always a grumpy gus.. 🤔
@inshallamiami
@inshallamiami 6 лет назад
You made me laugh! Thanks!
@linuxares
@linuxares 6 лет назад
Apparently he came out in cuffs from the airplane.
@davidwhite8633
@davidwhite8633 6 лет назад
Arizona Sky ‘Manifesto’. ?????
@GrayLensman51
@GrayLensman51 6 лет назад
Well, I could understand the manifest question if he had suspicions about a passenger, but he should have shown his badge, not the gun.
@teksal13
@teksal13 5 лет назад
@@GrayLensman51 And the flight crew should have been aware of their presence in the cabin, as badges can be falsified.
@styler19721
@styler19721 6 лет назад
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 6 лет назад
"A hospital? What is it?" "It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now."
@styler19721
@styler19721 6 лет назад
"Nervous?" "Yes very." "First time?" "No, I've been nervous lots of times."
@styler19721
@styler19721 6 лет назад
Robert Woko, Looks like i picked the wrong day to quit watching VASAviation videos
@HalfShelli
@HalfShelli 6 лет назад
And *don't* call me Shirley.
@yotzincastrejon
@yotzincastrejon 6 лет назад
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
@robertfaust5683
@robertfaust5683 4 года назад
Minor detail, but ATC doesn't care about pounds of fuel, they care about time!
@brch2
@brch2 4 года назад
No, they care about quantity of fuel... to let the emergency responders know how dangerous it will be if the plane catches fire (how much fuel there is to ignite). In another vid of an emergency landing I saw recently, the pilot gave time remaining, and the tower requested quantity in lbs.
@mistermouth3310
@mistermouth3310 6 лет назад
The pilot sounds very young but he did a great job. Very thorough.
@notafanboy250
@notafanboy250 6 лет назад
It's cute that you think age matters in this job.
@lukeg8466
@lukeg8466 6 лет назад
Age is often an indicator of how experienced a pilot is and experience definitely matters in this job.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 6 лет назад
@Chicha 17- There's a truck driver shortage. Now 80 year old drivers who retired at 70 are going back to work.
@iukanaboi17
@iukanaboi17 5 лет назад
Wow. Jackass comment of the year
@hobmoor2042
@hobmoor2042 5 лет назад
@@notafanboy250 - I agree. How about those 19/20 year old kids flying bombers over Germany with a crew of 10; they did a great job with very little training. Age is no guide to wisdom.
@AlphaOmega888
@AlphaOmega888 6 лет назад
Media cover-up in the headlines. God forbid we say anything bad about an air marshal. *As always, blame the flight attendant*
@dm8867
@dm8867 6 лет назад
Did the media do that?
@10chb01
@10chb01 6 лет назад
@@dm8867 it was probably not noteworthy enough for most outlets to report it. I mean the media does like to shit on law enforcement these days so if they thought it was worth it they probably would.
@TyNeePen15
@TyNeePen15 6 лет назад
nypost.com/2018/08/21/federal-air-marshal-on-flight-mistakenly-handcuffed-by-cops/ The headline says air marshal was mistakenly handcuffed.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 6 лет назад
Mistakenly is an adverb which applies to the verb handcuffed... not the mistake the air marshal made.
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 6 лет назад
They make a big deal about a cautious landing due to lights not coming on and such, but don’t make much of a deal out of an AIR MARSHAL showing his GUN!? That’s serious
@keywestjj
@keywestjj 6 лет назад
The whole "air marshall" concept is just soooo ridiculous! The only boogie-man out there is this foolishness.
@Sithspit_Rogue
@Sithspit_Rogue 5 лет назад
FAM's have been on flights for decades; it's not a new thing. They've been including them on selected flights since highjackings started becoming a "thing".
@boldcitycc
@boldcitycc 5 лет назад
There’s no boogie man out there? Tell that to all the people who have been involved in hijackings over the years
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 4 года назад
Awe I wanted to hear the marshalls get dragged off the plane by the cops.
@AviationNut
@AviationNut 6 лет назад
I got a feeling the flight attendant was hot and the marshal thought he would show her how cool he is because he has a gun and she would get all wet between the legs, fall into his arms and say take me you big beautiful gun carrying cowboy and they would live happily ever after. Unfortunately she did get wet between her legs but only because she was scared that they have a psycho onboard.
@chrish.kraemer4226
@chrish.kraemer4226 6 лет назад
Aviation Nut same first impression! "Hey Baby, guess what? I got a gun - wanna join the MHC?" ;)
@mikemiller5637
@mikemiller5637 4 года назад
This makes me really curious about the training and education required to become a federal air martial...
@AL-so5tl
@AL-so5tl 3 года назад
no training at all, as long as you are close to the democrats then you are granted the power to rob and shoot
@billwalker7556
@billwalker7556 3 года назад
His actions are definitely not part of training but not doing what he did is.
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