stellvia hoenheim no I'm saying that rich folk go over there and pay them litterally nothing for what they are doing. I'd say if I was too do it ....$50 an hour minimum....but they are getting like $0.25 cents per hour. So ya they should make alot more money for what they do. But to them that money they get is being rich o their standards ...but imagine if they were Western style rich like the people coming over and using them to carry their shit
stellvia hoenheim Don’t make assumptions dipshit. Everyone else knew exactly what he meant except for your special ed ass. Then you have the nerve to tell him to say that from the beginning? How about you work on your reading comprehension/common sense and put the donuts down you tub of lard.
Once I was trekking in a circuit in Nepal. I had good jacket double shocks, -30 grade boots and expensive gloves. Weather was snowed and very cold. I had to keep any water bottles with me inside sleeping bag else it would froze. And same time I saw 3 Sherpa kids outside playing snow they were in slippers, no shocks or gloves. They had jackets but it was not in great condition. They were happy and playing like they don't give a shit. Lol
Andrew Awesome ! Because I don't wear shocks. Wait a bit- my old car has shocks, the short form of 'Shock absorbers'. Indian English is weird. You can have any spelling to suit to what you say. This tendency is as high as the Pole star in your location if you can see it.
Fascinating. It'd be interesting to hear an explanation of Monken people who can constrict their pupils underwater in order to get clearer image as opposed to blurry image most of us see due to dilation of pupils. How do they do that?
Vincent Chirico Good question. The simple answer is we don't know. Ethnic Sherpas live and work at sea level all over the world and are fine but perhaps there is a subtle price to pay for having these adaptations. No research has been done and is unlikely to be done to be honest.
I'm a sherpa… I would've heard of any illnesses in my community by now just by breathing in the mountains. News spreads quicker than wildfire here. It travels all around the globe wherever sherpas have migrated.
I see a lot of people taking the little bit of knowledge that they do have on this subject and make assumptions without much context in this comment section and I would like to clear some of there up. First of all, I am Nepalese. And I've traveled to the Himalayas many times. I haven't climbed Everest, but I have climbed a couple of "smaller" mountains and have met many Sherpas during those times. The main issue I see most people talking about is that the Sheraps have no right to complain since they earn so much more than the General Nepalese population. First of all, that is irrelevance to the health and safety concerns they face. Sure they have great athletic abilities, however there are still thousands of other factors like avalanches, trenches, and equipment failure etc. That they have absolutely no control over at all. And secondly a lot of areas in Nepal dont have proper road and transport structure, so forget about the Himalayas. A pretty risky and expensive plane ride is pretty much the only way to get people and anything really up there. So even if they make a lot of money doing it, they have to spend way more actually getting food and clothes there. I've also seen some people say that it's their job, so they can't complain about it. Well, of course you can, you can complain about anything. And it's not like they have any other choice, it's the only thing they can do. And they have to do it in rapid succession, since those few summer months are the only times they can make an income, so they have to get enough to last all winter. These mountains are actually sacred to the Sherpas. They are literally going against their culture, heritage and religion, putting themselves in god knows how much danger just so they can barely make ends meet. If that's not sad then I don't know what is.
@@jeskeepinitreal I understand where you are coming from, but it's not like you think. It's not greed, really it is not. The only time they can get money is during those 2-3 months of summer when the mountains are open for climbing. That too by physical labour Sure, most go a bit down in altitude during the winter seasons the the journey itself is pretty expensive, as the only way is by planes. They have a really high cost of living, and they cannot sustain it any other way.
Spot on 👍. They deserve the money they make and it may seem lot to others but it's barely enough to get their stoves running. People don't mind a cup of coffee worth 400 bucks at Starbucks but cry when they pay 100 bucks at mountain (with no roads) for tea
So who are you blaming? There is a supply demand, if Sherpas are not happy with money they receive, they can increase price of their service or can find another job. If they can't find job, or are not happy with infrastructure you should blame your corrupt, stupid government.
Excellent video, your articulation and pacing are spot on. I think you delve into the underlying science enough to satisfy curiosity without getting too technical. I hope this channel blows up, doc, you deserve it.
Your people are unbelievable and it's a shame how some rich assholes treat you on mountains. Leave them! You are worth more to civilization than they are.
I'm so glad to see the Sherpa and other ethnic Nepalese groups get recognition for their heroic efforts and the risk they take to provide for their families. It always irritated me to see Westerners taking credit for accomplishments, while the Sherpa team that performed at least twice as hard to get them there step aside for them to summit in glory. I hope this awareness will bring about more recognition and safety for these amazing people.
It has a lot to do with Nims Purja and his Project Possible. He's an absolute beast - uncanny physical ability, but also pure joy of a human and a great inspiration to several people I know, half a world away from Nepal, that haven't even heard of Sherpa people couple of years ago.
As a climber i've always been interested in one day climbing Everest and knew the Sherpa were the real heroes, i just didn't realise how much more naturally equipped they were than the rest of us until watching this, very informative video, i learned a lot!
Well don't be a jerk and take a table or anything extravagant. On my way to everest base camp(and i am a nepali so they share things with me) few of them told foreigners don't treat sherpas like human, they don't give good foods to them etc just because they paid money to them.
It makes me sick how a man will climb Everest 15 TIMES and has to serve coffee at 75 yro, and a man will climb Everest 2 and live his life in relative comfort and celebrity...... FOR DOING SOMETHING SHERPA DO MULTIPLE TIMES A SEASON.
May God watch over these great people who have watched over climbers and been there to help lead the way. In a way I would say they have been like angels to many
Oh this brings back memories when I was in secondary and we had a weeklong hike in Nepal. It was nothing as dramatic as climbing Everest (we climbed to just over 3k ft) but for us students which essentially did no preparation except a few short hikes in Hong Kong before heading over and seeing 100% nature wrapping around you when you've lived in an urban city your whole life was mind blowing. Although I was pretty fit back then as I was dancing ballet basically everyday my body couldn't keep up once we crossed 2500 ft. Our Nepalese hiking leader offered to take my backpack for me (which by then felt like carrying rocks even though it was just water and coats) along with all his own belongings and proceeded to RUN along the trail to catch up to the boys up front in flip flops. In our next stop he came up to me and warmly asked if I want to grab water or coat from my bag since it'll be getting colder. Everyone of us in the trip cried so hard the night before we returned back to Kathmandu as we were sharing our thoughts and thankfulness about the sherpas. We felt so bad that we remember to buy supplies to give for the villages we pass through (carried by the sherpas) but never remember to buy things for the sherpas when they were the ones setting up tents for us every night and bring us hot water and milk tea in early morning. So in the end we left all our extra clothes and belongings for the sherpas since a lot of them have children at home (don't worry we did tip them but those weren't our money anyways as students). They were really the true heroes that allowed outsiders to experience their country's beautiful nature
I'm always so glad when people talk about them. They are absolutely peak human performance as a group, and they are exploited and screwed over left and right. It's sick.
Tbh, our staple food isn't really daal bhat. We eat alot of stews, noodles, and a ton of potatoes :D We have potato dumplings, potato pancake, potato everything
I want to say something clever here, but I'm slightly speechless. I loved this video. Man this guy knows his stuff. Absolutely enjoyed learning about this, blew my mind. Thank you
Ego trip totally. Who gives a shit if you climbed a fucking mountain? If something goes wrong then para-rescue people have to risk their lives to save your worthless ass.
@@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy Your final point is a very solid one, but then we might as well stay on the couch all our lives and do nothing remarkable. It's obviously an ego trip, but a good ego trip, the fulfilling kind (at least I believe so, have not climbed it myself). Our sole purpose in life is to reproduce and die, so we should do at least one memorable thing while we're about
@@MaidikIslarj I am all for ego trips that don't endanger the life/lives of others. I skydived in the past and there is risk but if my chute didn't open, I'm the only one hurt. The odds of me landing on someone were pretty slim. I also did it before I started raising a family. Didn't want a wife and/or kids to have to deal with the tragedy. I respect what you say. Only my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. Have a safe life bro'
@@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy Yeah of course, I know what you're saying, especially since I've skydived myself, I just wanted to point out that life has to be enjoyed and fulfilling. Of course when doing something potentially life altering/changing, you gotta think everything through, take others into consideration, and weigh the risk-reward. Cheers bro
@@MaidikIslarj Thanks for your kind response. No one would back you more on the "enjoy life" aspect than I would. I hope you are your family will stay safe from this Covid fiasco and in life as a whole. Best regards, Barry (my real name. My full name is unique. In fact I am the only one with my name on the planet believe it or not. The fictional name keeps the crazies away when I discuss politics/flat earth/general nonsense.)
Hehe, that might be true if those with smaller thumbs were being killed off before reproducing as they didn't do as well at xbox. Which is quite an interesting question when you start thinking about the esports world. Re: cycling - no. There's some evidence to suggest Sherpa actually fatigue faster at sea level, although that's not clear. Because they metabolise energy differently, in an environment where oxygen is not scarce they have no advantage. They also don't have crazy high haematocrits to produce huge VO2maxes necessary in cycling. In fact they might be at a disadvantage as altitude training (ie to raise your red cell count) will achieve nothing for them!
Keen to hear your thoughts - too long? Too boring? Too scienceful? Or not scienceish enough? Or do you just want to register your objection to my face? I know the autofocus went nuts, unfortunately my cousin had borrowed my lenses so was left with this crazy thing. Blame her! I hope it didn't make you feel too seasick.
Love the videos.If you could add more science(detail) that would be great ,I think chubby emo hit the nail on the head for the amount of science in his videos
Sravya Chirumamilla That is my kid and that terrifyingly high mountain he's climbing is the 10ft hill outside my flat! Thanks for checking it out and sharing Sravya 😊
Before replying to the comment you left for us I figured I'd leave a comment here! Brilliant videos! I think if the lectures I sat through in University were by you it would have been a lot easier to stay awake - really interesting points and well put across! Just followed on the 'gram too!
Well that explains a lot I was born and raised in Uk and all my life i had been more stronger faster and better climber than my friends i can run for hours without getting tired i always used to ask myself why am i different thanks this explains alot
I've got to say I'm very impressed with the way you did this video, with every statement you presented facts and proof with without being to technical or egotistical, with just the right amount of humor. I dig it man. Subscribed? √.
At 2:32 you are giving me chubbyemu vibes. I like it!! Edit: Ok I resumed the video and I literally paused right before the chubby emu picture showed up. I'm telling the truth!
Said right they are descended from Tibet many hundred years back . It’s been said those years Tibet ruled by king songtsen who occupied China and mongols and sent lot of armies to conquer neighboring countries including Nepal so it was believed some armies stayed back along those fringes and married Nepali and they descended are Sherpa. “Sher” meaning east and “pa” people . mountaineering is the only source of livelihood for these unique people and moreover Sherpa being Buddhist always believe God dwells in those pristine mountains. It’s very risky jobs and brave Sherpa always selfless in helping western mountaineers.
Sherpas are not the soldiers sent by Songsten Gampo or any other Tibet king (700 AD to 1000AD). Sherpas moved to Everest region around 600 years ago due to economic reason. Soldiers sent by Tibetan king Trisong Deu-Sten (9AD) are an ethnic group in Nepal called Tamang (Ta (Horse) Mak (Soldier) aka cavalry. Even the descendant of the present Dalai Lama's family are soldiers sent by the Tibetan king (9AD) from Central Tibet to Qinghai (Amdo) some 1100 years ago.
Nyijay Tash he didn't say they aren't originally from Tibet, he said that the op is mistaking Sherpas for Tamangs. Tamangs are the descendants of the soldiers, Sherpas had to leave Tibet because of tension between them and the other Tibetic groups. They also came to Nepal at different times. Sherpas share many cultural and linguistic similarities with Tibetans proper so naming their children Tibetan names isn't really out of the ordinary. Sherpas usually tend to name their children according to the day they were born in though, my neighbours who were siblings were both named Mingma(both were born on Tuesdays iirc), 'Phurba', 'Pasang', 'Lhakpa', 'Dawa', Nima', 'Pemba' are the most common names aside from it. Their language is very similar to Tibetan but since the language is orally passed from one generation to another than in written form, they use both devanagari(the script in which Nepali is written) and Tibetan.
With all them dead on Mount Everest recent days and others gone missing Would not be surprised if the Sherpa comes responsible not being appreciated treated like a donkey paid peanuts Want to climb the Toughest without the Sherpa comes impossible so Pay what's due you might just return.
Basically because they're not from a wealthy country. Not right or wrong, just that they're not from a country that can afford to send them. Furthermore a lower pressure life support system isn't that much less weight. The biggest advantage is that the Nepalese would be smaller and lighter themselves, but we already have lighter weight people. I'm curious how their evolutionary traits react in space, but practically speaking it's not a big deal when we can gear our environment to our own needs.
Ok heres some fun fact for ya'll. Sherpas comes from the eastern region of tibet. SHAR meaning east in tibetan, which later turned into SHER and PA meaning people residing at an area, forms the meaning People of the east. Mutiple races in Nepal are actually from tibet who migrated a long times ago. This list likely and very much includes Gurungs, Tamangs , Sherpa and Hyolmos.
@@little_monster_dadol6397 Politically Nepali but ethnically and culturally Tibetan. There is no doubt about it. Nepali born in New York is an American by nationality but his ethnics and culture as Nepali.
Can confirm: Sherpas are badass. I did a small expedition in Nepal and the porters, some of whom are Sherpas, would walk off at twice our speed in flip flops, carrying up to 45kg on their backs and then cook for us in advance. Note that Sherpa is also a family name in Nepal so many of the guides had the surname Sherpa, though I am not sure if the surname confirms them to be part of the Sherpa ethnic group.
Will B-C It’s a family name in Nepal for those who come from the Sherpa ethnic group so yeh they would be Sherpa unless of course they changed it to Sherpa which is unlikely c:
The chubbyemu reference had me laughing! Good video. I like the fact you cite your references too. I also see the double meaning in your channel name. I suspect you’ve been practising medicine for a long time and reached burnout. So you’re trying to rediscover control of your time, while still doing what you both know and love; medicine.
The video is a revelation to me. Four decades ago, a was roaming around in Himalayas (its all regions) at nothing less than 10000 feet height, I knew that there the 'locals' are different, even superior to me - the one keen on mountaineering, but born at sea level. These guys are our treasured physiological 'gems'. We need them more. I learnt one thing though, the heard way - Never 'Drink' at those altitudes.
I've been learning a lot about the Sherpa people. They are truly some of the best people that I've ever heard of. They deserve so much more than they receive when helping these people climb Mt. Everest. I recently just learned about them and it's fascinated me so much and also disappointed me at the same time that I didn't know about them for so long, especially when learning about people who've climbed Mt Everest while in school. Thanks for the upload.
Once I started viewing your video about Sherpas I couldn’t stop! It was very well presented, informative and incredibly interesting! I immediately subscribed and now must view all your videos. I am looking forward to your future topics. Thank you.
Interesting how Sherpas will perform in sports. I believe there are not much of them in any sports, just because of low total population; poor economics - most of them just dont have such a luxury as a lot of free time and money, and you are really cant build advanced civilization in the mountians; without constant connections to rest of the world besides of those western climbers and some scientists. Ethiopian long distance runners are well known, but Colombian cyclist are better example: in high-mountian stages of Tour de France, Giro, Vuelta and other races, Colombian climbers, especially those who born in mountians, they are just a beasts, outperforms everybody.
While this video is medically correct, it is socially problematic. Sherpa suffer much on the mountain than they're allowed to let on. They are forced to smile and carry impossible loads, even with raging headaches and a sore body.
As a regular climber and trekker in high altitude Nepal, I loved this video. More so because of the respectful way it talked about the Sherpas. Thanks for a good watch.
With all their amazing adaptations, I think Sherpas would make great cyclists. And I wonder why we don't see them in cycling competitions. My uniformed guess is lack of access/opportunity. Would they similarly outperform other athletes at lower altitudes? In Colombia, we have had some amazing cyclists make it big on the world stage. Colombia does have a good cycling culture and programs for some of our cycling talent to be refined and go pro internationally. Maybe, probably Nepal does not have that, but I sure would love to see what they're capable of given the chance! They don't need to prove anything, yet have proved themselves on Everest over and over. I feel like they could crush it at cycling.
Love these videos. It's just time before one hits the front page of the internet and gets millions of views. Content and quality is ready, just need some luck and the right topic!
My grandfather was a sherpa so I'm 1/4 sherpa. When I get a chest X-rays they have to take two X-Rays to get a full view of my lungs because they are so large.
Sherpas have become useless nowadays. Because of climate changes, now the glaciers are melting, we can cross over the crevices more easily without getting trapped or falling down the step ladders. In addition, base camps can easily be reached through helicopter services. It’s time to retire the Sherpas from the business, I’m planning on going to Nepal and climbing the K2 in September by myself without a guide but of course with all the equipment. I’ve been doing via Ferratas for 3 years now, I feel confident I can make it.
Now combining sherpa's with bajau's, now we have a perfect race that can dive so low and climb so high in long time , superhuman anybody ? Source (bajau body evolve to sea) : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T3fOf5YZI-Q.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1DLqntMLgJw.html
This is quite good. Great to catch up on the latest findings. I spent a month with Peter Hackett on his 50th birthday climb of Ama Dablam. We spent hours talking altitude medicine and I've been a geek ever since. I couldn't agree more with your sentiments about the Sherps and Nepal in general. Chapeau!
My superpower is lactase persistence. Look upon my ability to eat cheese, ye mighty, and despair. Seriously though, these sort of beneficial mutations and traits are fascinating to me! Genetics is so cool! ...Weren't the Ewoks based on the Viet Kong, or is that a myth?
This reminds me of how the Brits used small groups of them as soldiers in WWII, and... no matter what environment they were sent to, they far outperformed every other soldier on the field and quickly became world-famous for being such incredible people in every respect!
@@micahphilson they arent superior in any way except high altitude performance,research even suggests they are inferior at sea level and fatigue more easily.
Really glad to see the sacrifices and frankly, apparent frequent exploitation of the amazing Sherpa community being flagged here! As a Kiwi, we of course heard a lot of guff as kids about Edmund Hillary as "first man to climb Everest" - he appears on our money & everything! Wasn't until significantly later in life I discovered actually there were TWO guys climbing the summit that day... seemed like Tenzing Norgay had kinda been edited out of the popular/media narrative here, or only referenced as some kind of native sidekick (!), not always even by name. An artifact of the times I guess, & I REALLY hope it didn't accurately reflect Sir Ed's own attitude to his colleague? (he certainly seemed to get involved in Nepalese community support later in life?) But still frustrating, & esp so seeing there seems to still be a lot of taking for granted of the mountain guides & disrespect of their sacred spaces due to trash dumping during climbing etc...? 😕
This is awesome. If we ever try to terraform Mars, we will also have to areoform the colonists, and people like the Sherpas will likely be the genetic template. Their adaptations for high altitudes, colder temperatures, and low air pressures would allow them to walk around in the open on Mars long before any "lowlander" could.
@@phurbasherpa7441 Hi Phurba, since u are a Sherpa. I would like to know if you guys see yourself as a Nepali. Cos when I see any sherpas, bhutias and the other tibetic smaller groups. These kind of Nepalis are always there to claim you as a Nepali and be proud for some reason. That's pity, disgusting and weird.
@@Iskbest I've many sherpa friends and they proudly consider themselves nepalise and if u really wanna know what sherpas consider themselves there's a song called amma nepal sung by a sherpa girl then u will for sure know what they consider themselves and if u are still confused then come to nepal my friend ask that question to a sherpa yourself
This was very nice! I think you hit the right balance of science and non-science language and I think you are doing a great job in explaining (I myself love teaching so I subconsciously pay attention to teaching abilities :D ). What I really, really like especially is that you introduced us to a part of the world we don't know much about, provided more information about it in your description, and by doing that raised awareness of the conditions of people's lives in Nepal. I think these kind of videos are a great way of letting us be more familiar with the unknown parts of the world and their inhabitans because it cultivates compassion and understanding of the differences, which, as this video shows, are very often only due to the fact that some gene in a group of people switched on (or off) just because those people lived for a long time in certain set of climate/geographical conditions. By using a mixture of science, humor and a captivating way of presentation I think you are doing a very important job in a great way!
BrokenSymmetry wow thank you so much, that might be the nicest comment I've received! Thank you for taking the time to write it, will definitely motivate me to keep going. Cheers!
Brilliant video. Insightful. Although rich in science of which some went over my head, the jist of it was not lost. And yes, your son is a budding mountaineer indeed ;-)
Sheep's genetic is really strong and unique then other, they can survive without oxygen on the high altitude. i met them in Nepal and i m going to marry with sherpa because they are unique and humble 💝
I don’t wanna hear about any mountaineers when we have sherpas who literally do this everyday for fun some of them have summited Everest over 20 times without the help and tens of thousands of dollars in support
@@Lyle-xc9pg cz I grew up with Nepali people and because Gurkha regiment of the Indian army is known to be one of the most daring and courageous regiments. That's how the hell I know. Idiot.
And hence you get a comment, subscribe and bell icon for this video! The joke and the facial expression at the end was awesome! Thank you for this video!
This was an excellent summary of a complex topic. I have received lectures from Dan Martin and Ned Gilbert, two big names in this field of research, and you're information was more or less spot and extremely concise. If you fancy looking at this from another angle go have a look at how Sherpa adaptation differs from Andean populations. A fascinating example of evolution finding strikingly different solutions to the same problem. A recent paper has also indicated a third, unique style of adaption in Ethiopian highlanders!
timlawn1 I actually was going to go into that a little but cut it out for the sake of time as I wanted to keep it under 10 minutes ideally. But yes was impressed by a lot of the Andean papers I found, with genetic testing becoming easier some fascinating revelations coming out about the human movements and adaptations. Thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed!
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I’ve seen similar strengths in people from the Andes. They can run, without eat and carry weight 4000 meters over sea level. Maybe not as tough as tough as Sherpas but tough anyway.
