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Real Pilot Story: Ditching in the Dark 

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Description: On the night of October 9, 2009, a Mooney pilot and his two passengers experience engine failure over the Gulf of Mexico. The pilot, realizing he won't be able to reach land, has only one option-ditch his aircraft in the rough dark waters below. But, did he prepare adequately for a night flight over water?

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@stratus262j2
@stratus262j2 7 лет назад
In 1983 I ditched a Cessna T210 into the ocean halfway between CA & Hawaii. Recommend about 15 degrees of flaps to reduce impact pressure upon water contact. Land parallel to swells. Be sure to open all doors & windows prior to ditching allowing water to flood airplane cabin ( particularly in a high wing ) as this equalizes the pressure allowing you to escape. Life raft must be free & accessible - part of your pre-ditching checklist. Low wing planes can sometimes float for hours - particularly if fuel starvation prompted the ditching. Air in fuel tanks provides a degree of boyancy. However, a quick exit from the aircraft is always best. Upon raft inflation all unnecessary items go over board. Then it's time to PRAY !! ( I floated for 6 days before being spotted by a C.G. C-130 maritime patrol plane ).
@stratus262j2
@stratus262j2 7 лет назад
Donald Donaldson -- In the T210 the full 30 degree flap setting is not conducive to a good water flare.
@Dave-cz4wu
@Dave-cz4wu 6 лет назад
Stratus 262J dang, that's crazy. I guess you were lucky to be spotted.
@thedave7760
@thedave7760 6 лет назад
Incredible story, that shit only happens in movies. How did you eat and drink for 6 days? Were you alone?
@stratus262j2
@stratus262j2 6 лет назад
The Dave -- I was fortunate to have two neoprene tubes containing 1 U.S. gallon water each and some trail mix. The miracle was actually being spotted after 6 days / 120 miles of ocean drift.
@OmarCapellan
@OmarCapellan 6 лет назад
you brave to be in the open ocean between CA and Hawaii in a single engine. Im happy you made it out ok
@charlesburnett9209
@charlesburnett9209 6 лет назад
When I flew day IFR many years ago from Naples area on V225 south to Key West in a Bonanza(about 80nm over Florida Bay)ATC consistently gave instructions to descend to very low altitudes(3-4000’) when I was still way beyond gliding distance of land, forcing me to negotiate to remain at higher(usually 8-10,000’) altitude just for safety’s sake.I was never turned down. Pilots need to take control and emphasize why, if challenged, they must remain at a higher altitude.I cannot imagine doing this flight at 4000’ at night, especially with such limited survival equipment.The everglades, next door, is probably no better for overnite survival.Sounds like a good job of ditching that Mooney.
@almafuertegmailcom
@almafuertegmailcom 6 лет назад
So much this. If ATC requires a pilot to do something the pilot considers dangerous, first negotiate, if that fails, a harsh unable will do. If everything fails, declare and do what you need to do. Stay safe first, deal with the fallout later.
@georgev5766
@georgev5766 2 года назад
I used to fly from Fort Lauderdale executive to key west all the time. I would take the route over the keys, even though it was longer and I had to deal with Boca Chica naval base and Miami international. If for some reason I would go over the long stretch of water, I would climb as high as possible and be on alert as soon as I left homestead. I’m glad you guys made it. So often these videos end in tragedy. Cheers.
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles 8 лет назад
In addition to the survival gear, the three other most important assets to have available are altitude, altitude, and altitude, especially over difficult terrain, open water, and/or at night. Especially with newer Mooneys and similar aircraft, the glide ratio is one of the more important safety features of the aircraft. It will typically offer some time and options to work out whatever can be worked out in a situation like this.
@jonathanhankins8356
@jonathanhankins8356 5 лет назад
What an expensive way to give yourself nightmares for the rest of your life...
@elij.s.7580
@elij.s.7580 4 года назад
haha i was thinking the same thing
@TiffMcGiff
@TiffMcGiff 3 года назад
Haha I’ll allow it this time Jonathon ; )
@ladyscarfaceangel4616
@ladyscarfaceangel4616 10 лет назад
I couldn't agree more about having survival gear! On a tubing trip last year, I flipped out of my tube & found myself in a mess because it had rained a lot over the past few days! If I hadn't had that PFD on I doubt I'd be posting this comment now. The whistle got the attention & rescue I couldn't get otherwise because the rapids were so loud & when struggling in water, you'd be surprised how much energy your body can spend in a short amount of time. I know my account has zip to do with airplanes but it does get the point across on how important that survival gear can be, even during those trips we consider to be low risk, like tubing :) Be safe~enjoy life :)
@itzajdmting
@itzajdmting 9 лет назад
Crystal Angel Wow. thats intense. lucky you had the vest. where were you tubing?
@cmichaelhoover8432
@cmichaelhoover8432 7 лет назад
As a young foolish guy I entered a down river kayak race in a borrowed slalom kayak, in March in West VA. It snowed on practice day and I didn't have a wet-suit. The first time that I went in I found out how Jesus walked on water! The last time I was lucky to have a motorcycle helmet on. I still was so hypothermic that when my and my buddies wife got to me that stripped me out of my wet clothes and wrapped me and them together in blankets. It was 45 minutes before I could even talk.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 6 лет назад
C Michael Hoover - People become incapacitated and drown very fast in cold water. You were lucky.
@etherealrose2139
@etherealrose2139 2 года назад
Or you can learn to swim and not struggle against a current. You'll never beat a river.
@billcallahan9303
@billcallahan9303 6 лет назад
From my previous comment, that person at right is responsible for that door getting open so keeping him alive, conscious & able to get people out is very important. You might consider cracking the door open just before impact to keep it from getting jammed shut.
@SGTSnakeUSMC
@SGTSnakeUSMC 3 года назад
Love the arm chair comments....but they lived, so good piloting and sharing reminds us to better prepare ourselves.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 3 года назад
Really..in this episode, rather than all of them dying, they all survived.
@toddsam5170
@toddsam5170 5 лет назад
I've flown over Lake Erie during my instrument training and even then I took the PA28 up to 9000 ft just in case I were to have engine failure I'd make be able to glide to land. Why were they at 4000 ft makes zero sense to me. Glad they came out ok.
@BillPalmer
@BillPalmer 4 года назад
Consider carrying a personal locator beacon. I carry a Garmin InReach GPS/Satcom beacon with SOS function. Sends my position every 10 min, in flight (adjustable), but when SOS button is pushed sets off the alarms. Waterproof (or at least designed to look like it is...). I carry it whenever I fly my glider as the chance of a land out is much greater than with a power plane, and the position is easily monitored by the folks at the home field. I keep it attached to my parachute.
@itzajdmting
@itzajdmting 9 лет назад
What was the cause of the engine failure? 1000hrs and lived in the Keys, but no raft and hi-spec vests as stock? ELBs? He did the best he could and all survived. So for that, we can be thankful. A water impact at night could easily have killed them. He obviously exercised some skill in the ditching.
@solonhorn61
@solonhorn61 7 лет назад
Rob S
@pandamandimax
@pandamandimax 2 года назад
Solon Horn
@toddmulligan2609
@toddmulligan2609 2 года назад
that shot on the coast guard boat... stupid cheapest $10 life vest he could be find... "to my horror, no lights/whistle/mirrior..." had he looked? damn i thought a 1000 hour pilot would know how to check things
@itzajdmting
@itzajdmting 2 года назад
@@toddmulligan2609 Agreed!
@jirons2709
@jirons2709 4 года назад
I just found it funny that you ended up being 27 miles from Marathon.
@adb012
@adb012 4 года назад
Except a marathon is 26 miles.
@jirons2709
@jirons2709 4 года назад
​@@adb012 I rounded up from 26.2 miles.
@haiwatigere6202
@haiwatigere6202 4 года назад
I like your humor in this story without humor
@matteframe
@matteframe 3 года назад
I found it funny that they only had 2 PFDs
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 2 года назад
@@jirons2709 👍👍👍👍
@JonnyShotz
@JonnyShotz 4 года назад
I really love the use of Flight sim X on these videos. Great channel.
@wolfgangkirby6820
@wolfgangkirby6820 3 года назад
It made me download it on my phone lmao
@MongooseTacticool
@MongooseTacticool 3 года назад
Needs more space shuttle status hot air balloons. ;)
@ChaplainDaveSparks
@ChaplainDaveSparks 6 лет назад
Great video. It's nice to hear stories about people SURVIVING a ditching!
@robertgantry2118
@robertgantry2118 4 года назад
Yeah, I've always wanted to try that.
@psblad2667
@psblad2667 4 года назад
Well, those who didn´t survive, have not much to tell, do they?
@AmyAnnLand
@AmyAnnLand 4 года назад
@@psblad2667 but others can. We can hear the NTSB report.
@xericdesign
@xericdesign 4 года назад
I have flown my SE airplane from Miami to Cozumel. We went during the day, flew at 12,000' and wore life vests with a PLB attached and had a raft. We also carry a hand-held radio. I can't imagine doing this at night at 4,000' without wearing the vests. On our aircraft, we can open the door and relatch the lock so that it can't close, thus no need to hold it open for a water landing.
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 4 года назад
The Gulf. . .Great Whites actually roam along the coast and by roam I mean 50 miles off the coast. Ditching in any ocean is my worst nightmare
@user-sf9pq5ox7w
@user-sf9pq5ox7w 6 лет назад
thank you for sharing- a learning experience for you and viewers.
@tyroniousyrownshoolacez2347
You saw Key West from the water just south of Naples where you ditched? You must have 20/10'000 vision. Bravo Sierra 100%.
@cdurkinz
@cdurkinz 5 лет назад
Wow amazing story. I'm glad the pilot kept calm and was able to ditch well enough that everyone survived and unharmed it sounded like. Seems you had a bit of luck that night, except for the whole engine failure thing.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 4 года назад
Lesson: DON'T FLY OVER THE OCEAN WITHOUT A LIFE RAFT ON BOARD, AND STROBES ON LIFEJACKETS.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 2 года назад
As clearly stated in the video. You must have missed that. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 2 года назад
@@sludge4125 You must be a dick everyone hated in school.
@cujet
@cujet 2 года назад
Raft + vests with lights and EPIRB/beacon and a stupidly bright flashlight are all really good ideas. What's amazing is how little room this equipment takes up if chosen well.
@antigen4
@antigen4 5 лет назад
jesus - if they'd have been in the north atlantic it would have been game over
@LateNightCable
@LateNightCable 12 лет назад
I'm in Key West and remember hearing about this. No long flights over open water in anything less than a twin for me, thanks.
@esalenchik
@esalenchik 5 лет назад
LateNightCable a
@scottfranco1962
@scottfranco1962 7 лет назад
Crossing the everglades and dark ocean with virtually no safety gear other than life vests. This is the age of GPS personal rescue beacons, and lights attached to the vests should have been checked. There is a lot to say about pilot responsibilities here.
@brianhackert8513
@brianhackert8513 6 лет назад
alot to say, all right, like he sounds reckless enough to also not have enough gas
@neekonsaadat2532
@neekonsaadat2532 2 года назад
I couldn't agree more, it is especially important to be equipped with parachutes (life jackets of the land), as well as life jackets and flashlights. You never know what can go wrong
@BIG-DIPPER-56
@BIG-DIPPER-56 2 года назад
Very good - thank you ! 🙂😎👍
@dwightstjohn6927
@dwightstjohn6927 4 года назад
love the German subtitles for all my Austrian and Swiss friends in the room!!!!
@emerett2409
@emerett2409 2 года назад
Crazy to think it's probably better to ditch in the ocean than in the everglades, if you're hoping for a fast rescue.
@albertonex19
@albertonex19 8 лет назад
What a great ending to an otherwise awful story. I've got a ppl and have flown from Ireland to the UK in a 172 on a few trips, life vests are a must, we carry a liferaft but in reality, if the worst was to happen, PIC taking the keys out and opening the cargo door in time for the raft doesn't seem like a reality unfortunately
@cmichaelhoover8432
@cmichaelhoover8432 7 лет назад
When I have flown over-water (several times), the raft is on the back seat behind the passenger and the lanyard that inflates it is secured to the airframe and long enough to get the raft away from the aircraft. If the awful happens one just needs to pull the raft past the door sill. If/when the aircraft sinks the lanyard will inflate the raft and breakaway. Practicing entry into the raft in a pool is also great training. It ain't easy! We also have an emergency flotation bag with portable radio, PLB, flares, luminescent sticks, candy bars, batteries, water purifier, etc. After a training course taught by a Coast Guard jumper (the guy who jumps out of the helicopter to save your ass), I was convinced. btw the simple light sticks that glow for hours after cracked in half emit light at just the right wavelength for night vision goggles. SAR can see them from many miles away!
@nickgood8166
@nickgood8166 4 года назад
Torch with a strobe and a PLB should be part of every flight kit for night flight or flight over water or back country.
@petersmith8134
@petersmith8134 3 года назад
I just don't understand why you would want to fly a single at night.
@crfdln
@crfdln 4 года назад
This is a great story by the ASI b/c it illustrates everything you SHOULD NOT DO when planning a flight over water, esp. at night. This pilot demonstrated he was totally incompetent on that occasion. I can't imagine flying over this amount of water and not carrying a raft, PLB, and flare gun...among other things. He could have easily routed along the coast. Who would get into an airplane with this guy?
@33moneyball
@33moneyball 3 года назад
You’re a complete moron...he was an excellent pilot, the aircraft failed through no fault of his, and he ditched successfully. Yes it would’ve been better with a raft etc. That’s wayyyyy down the list of what makes a Pilot airworthy or not. He was supremely competent.
@CapFreddy
@CapFreddy 4 года назад
Even a flashing light used in a bike would help them...
@joecraven2034
@joecraven2034 5 лет назад
It's easy to be judgmental in these crashes because some of the decision making is questionable. I think if I was flying a single engine light aircraft whether night or day and I had the option of staying over land , that's what I would do. Sure it costs some more fuel but it's worth it IMO. Wonder if they had any theories why the engine quit.
@rayzorrayzor9000
@rayzorrayzor9000 3 года назад
I was just ready to comment about how stupid he was not to check the new life jackets that he brought (for lights whistles etc), but then I remembered my own brush with the water , I was onboard a sinking ship and stayed asleep whilst people were airlifted off , I only woke up when water washed over my bed (top bunk) , I scrambled out of bed using my life jacket that was hanging up next to my bunk to steady myself , then I scrambled out of my room leaving my life jacket behind , doh 😖. Luckily for me the helicopter was still onsite checking to see if I was in the water (even though no one bothered to wake me up and tell me that we were sinking), the rest of the crew did make rescuers aware that I had been aboard , to be fair to the crew the ships alarm klaxon had been sounding and no one expected that one could sleep through such a racket . Luckily I was airlifted off the ship and as such had no need for my life jacket but it just goes to show that hindsight is a wonderful thing and in this case I have no right to question how the pilot could purchase life jackets without checking them after stupid me used my own life jacket to steady myself then promptly left without , seriously though when things go wrong they tend to go wrong very quickly and quick thinking is needed , something that I was never known to be good at lol 😂. Kudos to the pilot for a water landing in the dark , that took some balls of steel to pull off .
@richardweil8813
@richardweil8813 3 года назад
Not trying to judge what anyone did, but I wonder if they had a mirror with them. From what I have heard that is one of the best rescue device for finding someone in the ocean during the day, which is when they were rescued. When it is bright from the air seeing a head in the water is very difficult. A reflector helps a lot.
@walterriely4032
@walterriely4032 7 лет назад
This is the very reason why I would not fly at night, over water or in IMC with a SE plane, crazy especially when you don't have to!
@alk672
@alk672 3 года назад
I wanted to comment that it's probably not a good idea to fly over water at night in a single engine, but then again some people cross oceans routinely in similar aircraft, so I guess everyone has their own risk profile.
@peteborowicz
@peteborowicz 3 года назад
Im not involved in any aviation at all..but just reinforcing things like this show does can reflect on many different aspects and in turn just make things safer and safe lives.
@troyball6623
@troyball6623 3 года назад
It's up to the pilot to check if any safety equipment is current and in working order before takeoff.
@barbsterboo3100
@barbsterboo3100 3 года назад
HOW HORRIFYING!!!!!
@richmiller4626
@richmiller4626 6 лет назад
Well done ! This Pilot did an excellent job ditching into the water in the dark. The Pilot did the two most important things correctly. Ditching into the water gently enough so all people aboard survived the impact and, having life vests for each person on board to stay afloat until help arrived. Having lights or flares would have resulted in their rescue sooner but, not the most important things to have in order to save lives. Again, surviving impact and life vests to stay afloat saved their lives.
@fortawesome1974
@fortawesome1974 3 года назад
OK if I was flying over water I would have a signal mirror, an EPIRB, a strobe light and a torch as a bare minimum on the gear connected to my body or withing arms reach to put on before going down!! If they had an EPIRB they would have been located within 15 minutes of the crash or less!! Not sure if the EPIRB is just an Australian thing, all boats are legally required to have them that go into certain areas. But there are land versions as well they tell emergency rescue crew like helicopters and boats a grid reference accurate to within a couple of meters to your exact location!! They literally fly straight to you!!
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 Год назад
I know this is old... AND it's going to sound like a lot of extra work... BUT let's put it this way, "How much is YOUR LIFE worth???" It's a pretty great video, but this is MY addendum : Whenever you get life vests, I DO NOT CARE what craft you shop for or which model(s) of vests you buy... Check them out first. ADD the strobes, flashlights (little pen-lights are decent, especially in the age of LED's), whistles, shark-repellent if and as appropriate, AND REFLECTIVE TAPE... AND when you "add" I mean you get the damn nylon cord and physically bind them to the life vests if they're not already attached. There are lots of good booklets and tutorials on everything from tying the knots to seizings to STITCHES if that better suits YOUR idea of "That's not going anywhere NOW."... For things like the whistles and pen-lights, just a couple feet of slack in the cord is enough. Only MOST of an "arm length" is necessary so you can point it and use it... or get it to your lips and blow... whatever. There ARE even combo's with a small flashlight, whistle, AND even a compass "all in one"... BUT use your judgment. Finally, CHECK THE BATTERIES REGULARLY... every 3 to 6 months is usually enough, and keep a spare pair or two of batteries in a pocket of each vest, or some place you can "grab and go" if you think that works... SO when you're on the way down (usually the case, though not always) you CAN tell someone not to forget things like the spare batteries, or the life raft... The same goes for your raft... if you get one... There SHOULD be a kit inside for things like remarkably caloric nutrition bars, desalinizing kit, and a potable water bladder of some kind... Frequently things like hard candy, water treatment tablets, and mylar "survival blankets" are included... BUT make a list of what's pertinent in the water YOU fly over, and if it's not already in the raft-bundle, you can stock up in a well sealed FLOTATION container. Even an old cooler works as long as it seals well and can hold everything you need. Dental floss can work for fishing line and general purpose cordage... a survival/utility knife can be an excellent idea, depending on the other contexts of your flying "over water". AND AGAIN... REFLECTIVE TAPE... You don't necessarily need HUGE amounts of coverage, BUT you absolutely SHOULD have enough to make some design on your flotation devices that can't be mistaken by fly-overs as "just somethin' shiny in the flotsam". The point is to make it MORE VISIBLE... and especially on the ocean, that's a bit easier said than done... Glow-sticks and LED's are all good, but the more visible coverage you can have in the water, the better your chances of getting spotted and pulled out of it. DO NOT SCREW AROUND! ;o)
@TheJapanChannelDcom
@TheJapanChannelDcom 7 лет назад
Should have stayed high enough that he could glide to shore if the engine failed. Crazy not to.
@jlshoem
@jlshoem 7 лет назад
I don't think that would have been possible, considering his distance from land.
@RPHeliopilot
@RPHeliopilot 7 лет назад
Could have elected to NOT fly direct, go east of the Everglades and follow Hwy 1 down to Marathon. More options to ditch closer to land, to the bridge, maybe cars or someone on shore seeing you ditch, etc. Maybe 20-30 minutes extra flying time? Not much of a cost for better options.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 6 лет назад
And if not to shore, at least very close to it!
@mattcollins4550
@mattcollins4550 6 лет назад
FAA recommends not flying higher than 5000 ft at night without supplemental O2 because the deprivation messes with your night vision.
@bryand8605
@bryand8605 5 лет назад
Insurance job lol
@billcallahan9303
@billcallahan9303 6 лет назад
Another hint....have anybody in the right seat to carefully put their right foot at the top of the instrument panel. It'll keep his head from hitting the panel or yoke. My book: Over & Back by Wild Bill Callahan on Amazon.
@andrewnorgrove6487
@andrewnorgrove6487 7 лет назад
Jellyfish keep sharks away Mmmm Well you stick to that if it makes you feel good in shark waters !! But they are actually a food source for some sharks.
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 7 лет назад
Depends on type of jellyfish and type of shark...
@maxbootstrap7397
@maxbootstrap7397 5 лет назад
One obvious question is... does the ELT signal vanish once it sinks a few (or many) feet below the surface? If so, ELT is near useless for ocean ditches.
@adb012
@adb012 4 года назад
Radio waves don't travel through water. The ELT is useless if submerged.
@paulmaxwell8851
@paulmaxwell8851 2 года назад
@@adb012 Well, radio waves can travel through water. Years ago I built a radio-controlled submarine that could maneuver underwater and be controlled from several hundred feet away. It worked surprisingly well. I'm not saying an ELT would work well at all, only that radio waves can and do travel underwater.
@adb012
@adb012 2 года назад
@@paulmaxwell8851 ... Radio waves die out very very quickly in mere feet in water (like single-digit feet) because water (except highly pure distilled water) is conductive. For most practical purposes, it can be said that they don't travel though water. You might have been hundreds of feet away but these hundreds of feet the radio waved travelled through the air, not through water. How deep was your RC sub? There is a reason why real subs don't communicate via radio when underwater.
@christinestill5002
@christinestill5002 4 года назад
I drive always w/ multi function flashlight Inc. strobe in 2 colors. Might have helped .
@AviationNut
@AviationNut 5 лет назад
I wonder if they ever got the plane out of the water to see what happened that the engine quit, or was it to deep and not worth raising from the water?. But they probably didn't get the plane out because the pilot would have said something.
@Bulgdoom
@Bulgdoom 9 лет назад
I fly to Marathon all the time, sometimes over the water direct to Hollywood/Miami
@R3Cat
@R3Cat 9 лет назад
Bulgdoom double check your plane's engine on each flight ;)
@Bulgdoom
@Bulgdoom 9 лет назад
Re One time as we landed in a Bellanca my buddy checked the new prop spinner and a piece the size of a palm was missing. Scratched the front cowling a bit, we didn't even notice in flight, would have been ban if it had disintegrated in flight completely.
@JP-nx9ir
@JP-nx9ir 4 года назад
Altitude is your friend all - no way I'm filing or flying at 4000 over the water at night single engine. Take that sucker up to 10, 11, or 12 and buy yourself way more time to restart, driftdown closer to land, mayday call, coordinate your final lat/long, prep cabin, etc.
@davewatson2124
@davewatson2124 3 года назад
No 4 Don't fly single engine at night
@dianapiesak5766
@dianapiesak5766 9 лет назад
Sorry for the newbie question, but why wouldn't he extend his flaps? Wouldn't that have helped out at least a little?
@Stl0510
@Stl0510 9 лет назад
Diana Davenport flaps would cause additional drag to the airplane when contacting with water, other than the structural stress it may cause to the airplane, this would be extremely dangerous if the airplane were not aligned with the longitudinal axis of its movement, coz it may yaw the airplane at the contact of water which you do not want it to happen at all
@darkferiousity
@darkferiousity 8 лет назад
+Lei Li Would it be possible to put down the flaps while still flyings and then retract them before landing if you had the time? I know that the airplane will be closer to a stalling speed if the flaps were retracted again and he would have to nose down a bit but I am sure it wouldn't affect much but reduce his speed a couple kts atleast even after pitching the nose down I am not sure what the best glide speed is for this aircraft or what kind of stalling characterists it has anyways I am just a new pilot so I could have no clue if it is correct what I am implying
@Stl0510
@Stl0510 8 лет назад
+darkferiousity if retracting flaps right before landing that would cause airplane to sink, and you do not want to keep nose low while ditching the airplane, a stable approach was all he needed.
@darkferiousity
@darkferiousity 8 лет назад
Lei Li Alright thank you Lei I will know what to do if I get into a situation like that.
@walterriely4032
@walterriely4032 7 лет назад
I totally disagree with this flawed philosophy. The whole idea of a water landing is to contact the water at the lowest possible speed. 'Structural stress it may cause" you say? Christ the plane is going to be stuffed anyway!!!!
@novo6462
@novo6462 7 лет назад
Far out over water and no survival gear? Silly.
@brianhackert8513
@brianhackert8513 6 лет назад
or gas, i bet
@-AthleteInAction-
@-AthleteInAction- 4 года назад
Why would you fly so low over the water?
@MeaHeaR
@MeaHeaR 5 лет назад
What is Meaning Flight Following
@strato6049
@strato6049 2 года назад
Exactly as the name implies. I’m not from the US but I reckon that it’s an Air Traffic Control service to pass on weather information to pilots and also assist in whatever form the controllers they’re capable of, if I’m not wrong they also pass on relevant traffic information to keep aircraft separation (depending on type of airspace)
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 3 года назад
usually, in these episodes, pilot errors cause the pilots and passengers to die. In this case, no real errors, and all lived.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 2 года назад
No real errors??? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@chriszbodula1894
@chriszbodula1894 5 лет назад
As someone considering taking flying lessons, it’s concerning how seemingly finicky these planes are. Then add the fact that you can’t find a good boat or RV mechanic so the assumption is the same applies for aviation mechanics and it seems you have a recipe for disaster. I have viewed far to many stories of vacuum failure causing gauges to out only to learn nobody seems to service/replace this critical component. Sure seems like flying is a dangerous gamble with too many factors out of ones control. I take notes with every video I listen to so I can be prepared as reasonably possible.
@RonAmundson
@RonAmundson 5 лет назад
The thing is, risk is something a pilot generally has control over. If you choose to fly a plane with a vacuum pump which is operating beyond its recommended replacement interval, you are making a tradeoff between spending money now, or dealing with a failed vacuum pump in flight later. Being a lot of pilots are cheap, they opt for the later... and then are upset when it fails in flight. The same can be said about spending money on an audio visual vacuum warning system, or even a backup vacuum system to take over when the engine driven pump fails. Its always too much money, until you are in hard IMC and your loose your vacuum powered gyros due to a pump failure. Granted, if the aircraft never flies in IMC, its a waste of money, as a failure in VFR is a minor inconvenience vs a life/death situation under IMC. Granted, this is not always the case, sometimes despite inspections and remaining under the manufacturers replacement figures, pumps do fail. The thing is, needle, ball, airspeed, and mag compass work... I've lost gyros under IMC and still was able to navigate and land safely. under moderate IFR conditions apart from any warning or backup system.. but back in my younger days, failure was not a matter of if, but a matter of when, so we really trained for it back then. In today's world, I would not fly an aircraft without a warning system under IMC, and definitely wouldn't fly without a backup if I were routinely flying to minimums under IFR.
@chriszbodula1894
@chriszbodula1894 5 лет назад
Ron, thanks for your comments. I am a quasi-engineer and professional inventor so my default is to always look for solutions. One of my greatest concerns for humanity is their lack of self preservation skills/desire. In life there are no shortcuts so when I design a product I do it right the first time. Took me many years to find sane engineers and ones that thought the same as me. Anyway, I am thankful for these videos so I can take notes and be as prepared as much as possible. I hate to see failures when simple solutions are so readily available. On the flips side, what I am learning is really an opportunity to develop “affordable” solutions/products so these cheap-asses can afford to save their precious lives and even more important the lives of their passengers. One egoic pilot was afraid to admit he needed help while bringing his daughter back to college and killed her and two others. It’s a shame when a dumbass takes others with them.
@etherealrose2139
@etherealrose2139 2 года назад
Boats and RVs are completely different game as far as clientele and on some levels machining than planes... What it almost always comes down to is how cheap the owner I'd, regardless of the craft he owns and pilots. Oh well.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 2 года назад
Popular opinion is he ran out of fuel.
@RC21114
@RC21114 7 лет назад
So, you're out over water, at night, in a single engine aircraft, and you don't have more than minimal water survival gear. Sounds like someone with a death wish, both for himself and his passengers. Sorry, but sometimes, we are our own worst enemy.
@homefront3162
@homefront3162 6 лет назад
RC21114 ImLike pizza
@MikeFromPA
@MikeFromPA 6 лет назад
I'd bet a substantial dollar amount on it being fuel exhaustion.
@brianhackert8513
@brianhackert8513 6 лет назад
BAM! i concur on the gas. (p.s. 2 life jackets for 3 people is not even minimal, it is subminimal, like his common sense)
@agconian1
@agconian1 5 лет назад
RC21114 a
@MikeBrown-ex9nh
@MikeBrown-ex9nh 4 года назад
We tend to get complacent and take for granted that everything will be ok, even when driving a car. Be prepared for the emergency you hope doesn't happen.
@jeffluo8960
@jeffluo8960 4 года назад
Could sully have done it at night? New York is lit up everywhere but surely the Hudson must be dark?
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 2 года назад
Yes!!!!
@LyndaWhite-ju1gj
@LyndaWhite-ju1gj 4 года назад
I’m sorry my post was intended for the bird strike video I just watched. My apologies
@SeaMonkey137
@SeaMonkey137 4 года назад
And I've been thinking I'm the only one that does that.
@LyndaWhite-ju1gj
@LyndaWhite-ju1gj 4 года назад
SeaMonkey137 I’m to old to slow. Lol
@stevendegiorgio3143
@stevendegiorgio3143 10 месяцев назад
I would have been scard out of my wits.I can't swim.Im afraid of deep water.I to,am a private pilot.
@guy_incognito7538
@guy_incognito7538 7 лет назад
Did you recover the aircraft?
@RC21114
@RC21114 7 лет назад
You're kidding, right? Of course not. In the ocean (i.e. salt water). Even if they located it in deep water, it would cost more than the airplane was worth in the first hour of a recovery operation.
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 7 лет назад
Effort would have been made to pull the wreck out of the water if practical. The aircraft is done though... restoration would just about be at the level of removing every rivet. The first reason for recovery is keeping as much oil and gas out of the water as possible. For quite some time most would stay in the engine and fuel tanks.
@American556
@American556 8 лет назад
At the end..yeah "if only the pilots would have had something to signal the rescue aircraft." While that would be beneficial, I am also wondering why the rescue aircraft did not have thermal imaging capabilities.
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 8 лет назад
+American556 Try listening at appx 6:30...
@American556
@American556 8 лет назад
+F Huber IR and thermal are they the Same thing?
@cmichaelhoover8432
@cmichaelhoover8432 7 лет назад
They did. There were only tow vest for three people. So they tied them to the crab pot buoy and held on, keeping them too low in the water for the thermal vision to pick up a heat delta.
@antigen4
@antigen4 3 года назад
seems the flight following didnt help in this case
@timfrizzell6491
@timfrizzell6491 3 месяца назад
Its one of the major reasons they survived.
@thomasobryon6904
@thomasobryon6904 2 года назад
And why I’d the engine stop?
@jo83301
@jo83301 2 года назад
I don't think anyone pulled the wreck fro. The 1000 ft of water it was in to find out.
@patfarra
@patfarra 5 лет назад
As to the flaps, I would have put em all the way down. Hit water as slow as you can.
@endwood
@endwood 7 лет назад
You considered Ldg gear in a ditching? Sheeez!!!! This is the very reason I never fly a SE at night or over water, simply too risky
@jpalm32
@jpalm32 8 лет назад
You need this to happen to carry light & Beacon???
@friendlyreptile9931
@friendlyreptile9931 Год назад
Always those people and their irrational fear of sharks. He also didn'T know what kind of life vests he bought? No offense but they guy sounds lucky, not smart o.0
@Mikinct
@Mikinct 3 года назад
Cirrus has parachute but I wonder if also flying a water plane that is capable of landing on m water might have helped here?
@52daytripper
@52daytripper 5 лет назад
many mistakes, lucky to be alive, should not be flying, no epirb? no flares? very unprepared for emergency
@sp769
@sp769 5 лет назад
Smuggling cocaine and using drugs does tend to make people think they are invincible and that nothing is going to happen to them, so they forgo safety and common sense. Ironically it helped them stay warm overnight in that water where others would have died of exposure.
@zachjacobs5322
@zachjacobs5322 5 лет назад
yeah lets fly a single engine airplane at night over the ocean with family on board. smart.
@etherealrose2139
@etherealrose2139 2 года назад
Must be an old person thing to not have basic flashlights on them. All I can see are Boomers flying.
@homefront3162
@homefront3162 6 лет назад
No b acon? Gay
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 2 года назад
No bacon for you, but plenty of sausage.