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Real Road Test: Reliant Kitten - 848cc economy estate! 

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The Reliant Kitten was designed to rival the superminis of Europe, but high pricing meant it struggled to compete. But, with an all-alloy 848cc engine, an incredible turning circle, healthy acceleration and superb economy, this makes a great little classic today.
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@Aaron-tf3iv
@Aaron-tf3iv 2 года назад
I unironically think the kitten is dead cool. Perhaps, dare I say, even more than a mini 😳
@geoffbaker4452
@geoffbaker4452 2 года назад
Lovely. Brings back memories of my 2 kittens I had in the eighties. Refined....no. Zippy and interesting....yes. A car magazine of the day rated it as economical as a mini 850 but as fast as a mini 1000. I achieved 63mpg with mine on a long run.
@Mark_T
@Mark_T 2 года назад
Wow. That equals my 2020 Panda!
@barryphillips7327
@barryphillips7327 2 года назад
I would say in many ways it is better than a Mini, my 850 Mini offered little performance. Wipers do not seem great, ( on the left ).
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser 2 года назад
Your passion for these old beauties is infectious. You do a great job presenting them too. Cheers!
@AR-iu9jv
@AR-iu9jv 2 года назад
I always said Ian needs his own T.V channel,so much more interesting than the Clarkeson brigade
@maxeluy
@maxeluy 2 года назад
I was missing road tests, nice to see they return 🙌
@stepheng8779
@stepheng8779 2 года назад
Well done to those that saved it from being scrapped, one for the future HubNut museum when it opens Ian? That showroom window takes you back, must be a great draw to what's actually for sale - I take it those cars are display only?
@Zadster
@Zadster 2 года назад
They are - Or at least the MkV Cortina is, it has been there at least 20 years. Fairly sure it was there over 15 years or so ago when I took my XR4x4 there to see if they could look at the fuel injection (an Italian tune-up sorted it). Their indifference was underwhelming so I never bothered them again. The Escorts have been there at least 10 years too. Not sure about the Range Rover, that one seems to come and go, so maybe it is the owner's occasional driver.
@freddieparrydrums
@freddieparrydrums 2 года назад
@@Zadster Shame they’re trapped up there
@andrewstones2921
@andrewstones2921 2 года назад
My dream classic collection would include a kitten which would live next to a DAF 33. I’ve always had a thing for simple but clever small cars. My first car was a Reliant Supervan so I learned to appreciate Reliant as a brand.
@tedf1471
@tedf1471 2 года назад
An all-electric version of the Kitten would sell today. A delightful car, ours only suffered from overheating on long fast runs in a heatwave (Kenlowe electric fan sorted that).
@itchywitchy
@itchywitchy 2 года назад
ooh, an electric Kitten, now that's a car would definitely want!
@markstott6091
@markstott6091 2 года назад
@@itchywitchy Personally, I prefer an Atomic Kitten... Can't think why.
@p24hrsmith
@p24hrsmith 2 года назад
With very little tuning gas flowed carb and some port polishing mine was quite happy to do 100mph as confirmed by the police 😐
@KLUTCHdot58
@KLUTCHdot58 2 года назад
I passed a certain yellow Kitten on the dual carriageway the other day. I thought Ian would love a test of that! I'm assuming from this footage that it was Mr. HubNut at the helm!
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
If it was Wednesday, it could have been me.
@kylereese4822
@kylereese4822 2 года назад
@@HubNut If I had that a simple ev conversion would be on the to do list... using G-Wiz bits and lithium batteries for the range...
@martinclapton2724
@martinclapton2724 2 года назад
Looks quite a fun car to drive! Sporty looking steering wheel. Admired Reliant as a company, to keep going as long as they did but they were so “Reliant” -yes pun intended - on other car manufacturers for their parts supply , which as we all know certainly was not without a few problems as far as continuity of work was concerned. Wonderful vid. if I remember rightly these were strong contenders in the Texaco Economy Tour of Britain, I’m of a certain age to remember that one!
@d2factotum
@d2factotum 2 года назад
There was something very wrong with that left wiper, by the looks--didn't seem to be clearing the left side of the windscreen at all! I've only ever owned two petrol-engined cars that would routinely top 50mpg in normal driving, and oddly, one was a 1.4 litre Renault 19 Chamade--to this day I have no idea why that one was so good, because no other 1.4 I've owned has come close!
@paulkirby5479
@paulkirby5479 2 года назад
My sister worked at sgt taplow, where your fox was registered , and would regularly drive home in something from the garage. In those days they sold, reliant, morgan, Subaru, lotus and mitsubishi as well as all the Japanese bikes. My sister bought an early x plate mitsubishi starion from them. That and the x plate kitten would have made an interesting showroom comparison. I went for a job there , in the parts department, sadly I didn't get it.
@frothe42
@frothe42 2 года назад
Mitsubishi Starion, now that is rare!
@danielrussell446
@danielrussell446 2 года назад
My uncle and his brothers had the reliant dealership at wednesbury near Walsall was Roy peplow and company they sold reliant motorbikes and were an original UK Hyundai agent
@mickymondo7463
@mickymondo7463 2 года назад
I have a 76' Kitten Saloon, which I have had as a daily driver for the last few years. The Fox is much heavier than the Kitten, even with the Tandy top off. The Kitten can be driven on a B1 licence, unlike many of the competition of the day, mine has been on some long runs without incident. It is NOT a live rear axle, it has a differential as have all of the three and four wheeled Reliant including the Fox, although the Fox has a lower ratio.Kittens were also built in India under licence as the Sipani Dolphin, the Fox sold well in Greece.
@markstott6091
@markstott6091 2 года назад
The engine was, to those in the know, a sweet, tunable unit. That advocate of the plutocrat's express the Bristol, LJK Setright himself, loved it.
@davemarshall561
@davemarshall561 2 года назад
There is a blue Kitten near me with the rear windows blanked, in very good condition. It’s a daily driver for the owner. I do like the sound they make.
@Iansea1967
@Iansea1967 2 года назад
Lovely to see you in a Kitten. It brought back a lot of memories of my 1976 estate in Harvest Gold which my dad passed on to me when I was 18. It wasn’t the coolest car to be seen in but was great fun to thrash around the Cornish lanes. I used to hold on to the gears a little longer than you as it would do nearly 50mph in second gear, which probably explain why I never got fuel consumption better than low 40s to the gallon.
@teamhandsome1974
@teamhandsome1974 2 года назад
One of my sixth form teachers (Mr Brookes aka Brooksie) had a Kitten estate that he drove to work in. He would teach car maintenance to kids with it. And he was responsible for buying and running both the school minibus and the school coach! He had a pre WWI Lanchester in his garage that he was planning to restore when he retired! As my Mum taught at the same school, I do know that he is still alive and well, but have never managed to confirm whether he still has his Kitten or whether he ever restored the Lanchester to full working order!!
@diecastloonie6055
@diecastloonie6055 2 года назад
Fantastic little car great bit of fun always wondered what they were like 👍👍
@peterchildress7719
@peterchildress7719 2 года назад
Just up your street.basic motoring and 50+ mpg.easy to work on.Goes from a to b and keeps you dry..what is there not to like but smile.from Tamworth myself,and my dad worke_ at reliant in early 70s.
@robbrady4649
@robbrady4649 2 года назад
Great review Ian. I remember these back in the day. Always been a rare sight on the roads. Do you ever think you'll get to review a Dutton Sierra? An early attempt at an SUV / soft roader.
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 2 года назад
Mine is on steel rims. I recognize everything you mention about driving behavior from my Kitten. The steering wheel feels almost against the door. I have one of the few LHD. The interior of my Kitten looks very used, the outside is also not suitable for standing on Pebble Beach. The previous owner built a carburettor that was too big, so mine is not economical. Greetings from the Netherlands.
@skodakatie7341
@skodakatie7341 2 года назад
I do have a passion for all things Reliant, the 3 wheelers are so cute, as is this Kitten, I used to own a 1993 Robin LX, I had many hours of fun driving it❤️.
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 2 года назад
Very nice! I always liked the Kitten. I still see one regularly tooling around Kidderminster - they look like fun to drive.
@tonysargent1699
@tonysargent1699 2 года назад
Ah, the four wheeled three wheeler! Cool! 😎
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 2 года назад
The two wheels on the front look almost like an afterthought. Rear is like a Volvo station wagon. You don't see dealers here in Australia specialising in 70s and 80s cars like that one. I liked the final Cortina in the background.
@alasdairvincent6248
@alasdairvincent6248 Год назад
I think the Reliant Kitten is much nicer than the Rebel which came before it. I always liked the look of the Kitten, like a Robin with four wheels.These cars are getting rare now and I enjoyed your video of this one
@nicholasreason8379
@nicholasreason8379 2 года назад
I think the back door lock/handle came from an Austin A35 or another BMC/BL model the Kitten looks so cute
@cornishhh
@cornishhh 2 года назад
IIRC Mini vans had the same handle.
@TheLegitAlpha
@TheLegitAlpha 13 часов назад
The kitten: if the robin was actually stable
@davidrumming4734
@davidrumming4734 2 года назад
That was alright wasn’t it. Looks alright as well. Little engine is surprisingly capable. just about remember them from my childhood….even back then I didn’t understand why these were not more popular. Little economy car with 4 wheels, rather than 3. Engine at the front, familiar drive to the rear. Why didn’t people buy them? When did the original fiesta launch? But even the 950cc fiesta couldn’t do 50mpg…and was prob more expensive? Triangle of doom….I’ve never taken much notice til I found this RU-vid ch. wondered why my Honda kept dribbling water down the screen.
@CodgerBiker
@CodgerBiker 2 года назад
Poor people (as I was) liked them because 1970s 2nd hand cars rusted away in front of your eyes. If you did have a full license why would you want a 3 wheeler? Cheap motoring, but as you said, expensive new. 1970s weltanschauung 👍😊
@jdtseventyfour
@jdtseventyfour 2 года назад
What a great little car. I first came across the kitten when I was at university (early 1990's) when a friend had one. I'd heard of the robin of course but never the kitten. Reliant had some great cars in there day. I always think its a shame that they are no longer with us. As always a great video to watch :-)
@darranyoung6077
@darranyoung6077 2 года назад
'The sun visor is my airbag' one of the most hubnutiest lines ever! Another great vid Ian👌
@stuwhite2337
@stuwhite2337 2 года назад
Always loved the Kitten. Why? When I was growing up a guy up the road drove one as his daily driver and his weekend car was a Detomaso Pantera.
@christineayres7199
@christineayres7199 2 года назад
Also 0-60 in 17 secs and top speed of around 80mph not bad as thats nearly the same as your Matiz spec wise lol
@Grimwriggler
@Grimwriggler 2 года назад
Nice seeing a Kitten again , a local farmer had one and it was a hoot to drive . Storm Dudley, Storm Eunice and now storm Frankin ?? while here in Spain we are in midst of a bad droubt
@torresalex
@torresalex 2 года назад
Yes, it's the whole peninsula
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 2 года назад
Reliant Kitten........Hmmmmmmm! A trusting infant cat, perhaps? Anyway, don't go pussin' this one too hard or you'll have a cat-astrophe on your hands! Meeeeeaaaaaooooowwwww! 😄
@Banglish123
@Banglish123 2 года назад
Nice example. The colour is the same as my little Fiat 127 was. A very similar class of car but the performance was outstanding from its little 903cc engine. I can't remember if you've ever done a 127 before. If not I'm putting in a request. There's probably not many left they were clearly built for the residents of Turin only.
@danielmoukli4590
@danielmoukli4590 2 года назад
people still do this childish shit? wow...
@Banglish123
@Banglish123 2 года назад
@@danielmoukli4590 like trolling you mean?
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
Yup, I've done a 127 Sport. It was incredible.
@Banglish123
@Banglish123 2 года назад
@@HubNut I'll have to find it
@norwegianroads2152
@norwegianroads2152 Месяц назад
An 850 Mini is about 15% heavier and has about 15% less power than a Kitten, so it's not surprising that it can't maintain the same speed as easily as a Kitten
@pal555
@pal555 2 года назад
Great stuff simple engineering good commentary as always
@metallicpearl
@metallicpearl 2 года назад
I was once driving back from a gig at 1.30am and came across somebody pushing one of these up an incline next to a rural airport as it had broken down. I got out and helped push it to said nearby airfield and having never seen one, I was grateful that the owner filled me in on the history of these. Really interesting stuff! Love this video!
@simonwoodward438
@simonwoodward438 2 года назад
Always had a soft spot for these as well as the Fox just a shame they never built the Cypher sports car because I could never warm to SS1
@Queen-of-Swords
@Queen-of-Swords 2 года назад
Very cute!! These older cars look so much easier to maintain for the average Joe or Jane.
@timbre7999
@timbre7999 2 года назад
Wonderful little car, was LMAO when sun visor was proposed to be the airbag. Those cars only real safety feature was the driver paying extra attention to traffic around them 🙂I still believe that classic cars can make one a better driver.
@JonnyGearjammer
@JonnyGearjammer 2 года назад
I'll have to watch this later as can't draw my eyes away from that Cortina in the showroom. They are currently closed or I would be on my way.
@neilelliott6151
@neilelliott6151 2 года назад
I a kitten in the mid 90s and loved it, i travelled from Skegness to Bedford to collect from a chap that used them for timed hill climbing. I got stopped by the police in Spilsby, they wanted to know what it was. Gosh I did some miles
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 2 года назад
That 850 was a good one. Nice torque curve and in the Robin at least they would do over 90 if you were daft enough. 70mph no problem at all.
@jibjab351
@jibjab351 2 года назад
I had 2 Robins and a Supervan III in the 70s [provincial licence], I could only dream of a fourth whel.
@bs7157
@bs7157 2 года назад
it was made in Tamworth staffordshire. when i used to go to Morrisons, you could smell the fibre glass from the factory ! very strong it was.
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner 2 года назад
Jasper Carrott was able to harvest a lot of his comedy material from the Reliant Robin and also the Skoda 120L.
@steve_ancell
@steve_ancell 2 года назад
They should have gone on to produce a bigger and beefier version of the Kitten and called it the Reliant Cat.
@RichardDzien
@RichardDzien 2 года назад
That wiper might not overlap, but seems to miss about 50% of the left ones window....
@simonbarnwell7787
@simonbarnwell7787 2 года назад
Fabulous , shame people didn't understand how good , in terms of long term value they were , at the time .
@richardneale246
@richardneale246 2 года назад
A Reliant Kitten overtook me once at well over 70 mph !!!!!!! It sounded as though someone had put a very high powered motor bike engine in it. I expected it to be upside down in a ditch a few miles up the road !!!!!! 😂
@paulm114
@paulm114 2 года назад
One of my neighbours bought a blue one of these for his wife when she first passed her test in the early 80's. Apparently she didnt like it much so he used to run around in it and she drove his Morris Marina. I can remember them owning it for a good few years though.
@stusoldcars4248
@stusoldcars4248 2 года назад
Not my cup of tea but can still appreciate it for what it is.👍👍👍👍
@Phiyedough
@Phiyedough 2 года назад
I had a 1972 Regal for a short time and later had a road test in a Robin but the Robin felt more cramped than the Regal. The early aluminium bodied Regals were very narrow though.
@niallsommerville9941
@niallsommerville9941 2 года назад
A lot more period civilised than I'd expected, lovely. Thank you.
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 2 года назад
I was given a lift in one of these that the owner had somehow fitted a Rover 3.5 into it. It was stupid, dangerously fast. I was amazed but very happy to get out at the destination. These days 136BHP is not much but in a glass fibre car it is way over the top.
@anticat900
@anticat900 2 года назад
A great video, I always wondered about the Kitten owner opposite my mums house and now i know how it was for her going down to the coop in the early 80's. Noce little car but probably too small to be viable for my 6ft. Dyanes are my thing and I can fit into those though the refinement and interior fittings are none exsistant compered to this little machine. Please carry on going though my car bucket list.
@KiwiStag74
@KiwiStag74 2 года назад
What a fascinating little car! I see hints of the Fox in the bonnet, grille and dashboard and of the Scimitar in the upward sweep (and rearward trim) of the rear side windows. Ok, there are hints of the Robin too, but Reliant appear to have been going for a definite separation between the two vehicles. I like it. A decent set of shocks and an intermittent relay kit and it would still be a great round-town vehicle, big enough to hold the weekly groceries. However, buying it as a new car, I can see the appeal if someone wanted a small Reliant (but with FOUR wheels) in the 70s, but in the early 80s? There was SOME competition available in the size. The Fiesta was a reasonably well established vehicle in the UK by then, the last MkII / first MkIII Escorts were still available, the first of the Metros were around too....as were the likes of the little Datsun 100A Cherry, Daihatsu Charade and other little Japanese vehicles ....and of course, the ultimate in small - the Kei cars. The Yugo or the Hyundai Pony (ugh...) may have been a couple of the only similarly sized vehicles within the same price point though.... Do you know what the Kitten sold for (roughly) when this one was bought? According to Autocar, the Pony started at GBP3075, but I have dug about and cannot find a reference to the Kitten except for it's launch price in 1974 - some GBP500 dearer than the 850cc Mini at the time, apparently. I know the UK was strongly encouraged at the time by Maggie to Buy British, but it would be interesting to see just how big a difference there was. I'd certainly drive a Kitten over either a Pony or Yugo if there was only 500 quid difference!
@michaeltutty1540
@michaeltutty1540 2 года назад
Don't forget that back then 500 quid was a lot of money. That worked out to about 13% more, and for many, that 13% made the difference between buying a new car or buying a used one. I have no idea how the Reliant drove, but we did get the Pony here in Canada. The upper trim level with the larger engine was quite engaging to drive. Even the base car with the 4 speed manual was a bit of alright on the road. Taken for what they were, they were not bad cars at all
@KiwiStag74
@KiwiStag74 2 года назад
@@michaeltutty1540 Granted regarding the economics, although with hindsight I maybe should have added that a) I would have preferred a Mini over the Yugo and Pony if it came to that and b) (although I have not looked their prices up), I would have preferred the reliability of the Japanese vehicles over any of the others - even though they rotted faster.. As I mentioned, the Mini was 500 quid cheaper than the Reliant at it's launch but I couldnt find the price of the Kitten when she was near end of production to compare it again. I DO know that even though the Mini was still beloved by the masses in 1981/2, it was passé and had not reached the cult status it has today, so just another workhorse. I have a Mini and putting a weekly shop in it for four people is an absolute laugh....unless you are one of the passengers who has to get out and walk because there isnt enough room for you after the groceries are stacked on the back seat! I've owned both a 100A Cherry and a 1981 Charade and both were cheap and cheerful little vehicles despite their propensity for dissolving under you like a Disprin in water. Both were basic but reasonably well equipped as Japanese cars of the early 80s were apt to be - as well as very economical to run. I have driven a Yugo around 100 miles and that's enough for me. I drove a Pony back from up north for a mate of mine who had bought it and when he asked me how it went, he did not like my answer. I said two very short sentences - "I'm glad that's over" and "I'm glad it is your vehicle, not mine". It was simply the most miserable trip I had made in a vehicle to that point, although I had not driven the Yugo or a Lada at that time. All I can say is that if the Pony wasn't bad in Canada, then you blokes must have got a different shipment to us down here in New Zealand! The Pony had a lot of potential but was let down so much by poor quality of 1) workmanship, 2) attention to detail and 3) standard of fittings / finish. The one I drove was 5 years old, had 16,000 kilometres (10k miles) on the clock and although the vehicle looked as immaculate as you'd expect it to, it drove like 316,000. The amount of rattles it had was worrying, the dashboard plastic and its constant creaking made a lovely counterpoint to the rattle inside the gear knob, the sun visor kept swinging down into my line of sight, the handbrake button shot off under the dashboard after the first hill-start I did and it lacked any feel in the steering except you knew when you turned the wheel more than five degrees off centre, because the car rolled like a 30 foot boat with a narrow beam. It should have turned me off Korean vehicles for life, but I have owned a Daewoo Cielo that my wife and I bought new and then sold after 6 years (and 85,000km - 52k mikes). I could write up another whole page on that car - a lot good and a similar amount bad - but can sum it up in one line: If you buy cheap, you get cheap.....and I guess that's the same with the likes of the Pony / Yugp / Lada etc.
@crashbox7130
@crashbox7130 2 года назад
How disappointing that a Morris garage has Fords but no MGs or Morris cars in the showroom. 😆
@nickthomas181
@nickthomas181 2 года назад
Yep brings back memories my first boss had one not a good one S reg .It had one wiper on the passenger side I used to have to tell him if anything was coming if it rained.! We had to refiberglass the door hinges using filler from Taskers!I was an apprentice decorator in 1988 but I also learnt a lot about mechanics and rebuilt a mini clubman estate a result.I also learnt that a mechanic put the carburettor on upside down and and leaked fuel on top of the engine it went up thanks to a school fire extinguisher the car was saved but for the heater matrix now no demist either. Engineers at Reliant put a Scimitar engine in one with frightening performance the bosses wouldn't let it out of the company car park! The Kittens brakes were totally pants! I know personally I've worked on them enough ....lol
@tech4pros1
@tech4pros1 2 года назад
A Ford Essex v6 in a kitten.. That would've certainly been very lively!
@petetube99
@petetube99 2 года назад
Reminds me of a miniature plastic VW polo bread van
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 2 года назад
Engine access certainly looks a lot better.
@andabossftw
@andabossftw 2 года назад
Love this car, would like to see a Robin 65 or BN Robin review, also a Bond 875. Hopefully someone can offer you them
@ChefBenG
@ChefBenG 2 года назад
I fondly remember when I was around 16 and a mate had a kitten van given to him, a bright orange one. It was tremendous fun and made for some great memories. Used to keep it going with literal rubbish found around various parents garages, one time I found some old Volvo marked spark plugs (must have been my parents 240)and even though they were well past it they gave the kitten a couple more months life.
@ChefBenG
@ChefBenG 2 года назад
@Lookup2Wakeup quite a few mates more like!
@andygreen1a
@andygreen1a 2 года назад
My mates mum had one of these as her first car when she passed her test in 1985. Happy memories
@bid84
@bid84 2 года назад
Bit of a handful when wet, and commodious in the rear, but that’s enough about your mates mum.
@KidMillions
@KidMillions 2 года назад
Cosmic wheels, very seventies. English brand, made in Staff. Originals are expensive these days.
@DalekBuilder
@DalekBuilder 2 года назад
So many memories. I had a white kitten saloon in mid to late 80's, PNA 514R. It was known as "the star car" due to its registration by my mates. I was shocked to see its still on the road, its now bright orange & attends a few shows. I was in my late teens at the time. Most of my mates had minis or rusty escorts & I bought it as the GRP body & no rust really appealed. It was superb at the time as cost pennies to run and I only sold it as my mates mum kept pestering to buy it every time I went to their house. Another superb review Ian keep up the good work.
@matthewbrown2037
@matthewbrown2037 2 года назад
Many years ago, when I was a mechanic, I worked with a guy who had one of these. It looked scruffy, although it was solid, but he'd done a few bits to the engine, including a set of quad carbs from a Kawasaki GPZ 1100. For what it was it went pretty well, and thanks to the induction noise from those carbs and a home made big bore exhaust system it sounded good too.
@awtistiaeth4699
@awtistiaeth4699 Год назад
I had one of these in the green that Robins came in. The rear door was rubbish but I managed to get a Robin one the same colour. As the Kitten handled quite well, you could amaze people who were chasing you on country lanes as it easily hold its own on the bends. The look of determination on the face of those following was something to behold. I seem to remember that Princess Anne had one but don't hold me to that.
@stevedickson5853
@stevedickson5853 Год назад
..she definitely had a scimitar, not sure about the kitten
@ScrotalCuppage2469
@ScrotalCuppage2469 2 года назад
Why do English RU-vidrs feel the need to help foreign viewers when describing things like ‘estate’ or ‘pavement’ for example?
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
Because we know our viewers are international...
@ScrotalCuppage2469
@ScrotalCuppage2469 2 года назад
@@HubNut surely by that logic than subtitles should be utilised for every non English speaking country that watches
@1978garfield
@1978garfield Год назад
I want one of the vans. I love the name. I think Kitten is the best car name ever. Reliant was such a cool company. As an American I am just learning about them.
@stevedickson5853
@stevedickson5853 Год назад
..and it was the last truly independent motoring company in Britain before its demise around 2000/2001
@christineayres7199
@christineayres7199 2 года назад
My dad had a Reliant Robin as he kept failing his driving test LOL and the best one is in 1987 when we had the last big Storm he got caught in it on the M25 but somehow got home from Work safely LOL , Good news is he did pass his test on the 6th attempt ha ha
@popepaul4438
@popepaul4438 2 года назад
That brings back memories
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 2 года назад
That is a very cute little car. So was the original Robin (particularly in yellow, a relative of ours had one in yellow), but possibly a little more reassuring at higher velocities, while retaining the zippiness
@jochenstacker7448
@jochenstacker7448 2 года назад
This car looks like it was built from one of those magazines where you get a different part every week. 😜
@fourthdrawerdown6297
@fourthdrawerdown6297 2 года назад
16:58: Bonus rear parcel shelf action! Marvellous. 👍
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 2 года назад
A delightful little Reliant! It certainly looks like you had a lot of fun Ian. Shape wise if you squint (a lot) reminds me of the old Allegro Estate that's been in the wash at a high temperature. The body on these didn't suffer the metal moth though. A terrific example in a great colour, almost lemon curd that I remember from the same era. These were built not too far from where I grew up in the midlands. It's sad that the company stopped in 1998. My dad had an old 950cc Herald and I can just about remember that it could turn so tight.
@Nino500
@Nino500 2 года назад
The steering rack is actually a narrowed version of the old Ford Escort item. I made the mistake of selling mine a couple of years ago when a Vauxhall Viscount came along. No regrets but the Kitten was definitely more useful and had a few nice mods like disc front brakes and adjustable shocks. Lovely little cars and, as someone else mentioned below, would make an excellent electric conversion (which was my original plan).
@waynekerrgoodstyle
@waynekerrgoodstyle 2 года назад
I've always wanted a Kitten or a Rebel.
@captaccordion
@captaccordion 2 года назад
Ah, good to see a road test again! It raises a question which your Reliant boffins may be able to answer. Would a taller Kitten rear axle or diff centre go into your Fox to improve it's cruising, and would you like the Fox better if so fitted? Cheers.
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
Yes, it would calm her down at speed. But she's a bit heavier, so it would further blunt her hill-climbing ability. I think I'd rather keep her as she is.
@captaccordion
@captaccordion 2 года назад
@@HubNut I've 'talled up' a number of cars, always with results that pleased me. I've found that the extra time you can keep the car accelerating with the engine in it's peak power band outweighs the negative effects, such as a bit slower away from the lights, or on some hills having to drop to second where previously you lugged in third. There will after all be other hills where the different gearing is an improvement, and of course any commercial vehicle is designed to carry bags of cement in the back, and you and I don't do a whole lot of that.
@dombooth86
@dombooth86 2 года назад
Awesome v log really loved all the mechanical noises
@persevere777
@persevere777 2 года назад
Seeing the foybles of the old cars, as seen as an annoyance, now have the warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia 👍😀👍. Glad to see you weathered the recent storms.
@g0fvt
@g0fvt 2 года назад
Many years ago a friend had one of these with a tuned engine, modified suspension, wide wheels and foaming resin in some of the hollow fibreglass sections. It was surprisingly quick and a monster in the twisty bits. A lot to be said for so little weight.
@oldelephantstew
@oldelephantstew 3 месяца назад
I had my Kitten estate from 1989 - 1998 - it was a 1978 model (BGH 451S) painted Blue and Silver (not it's original colour). Mine had a cigar lighter (I don't think yours did) which I used to use as I smoke cigars. Yours had a clock which mine did not have. Mine had reclining front seats (I imagine that this one did though they were not demonstrated - that's what the other lever would have been when you climbed into the rear seat) although I replaced the drivers seat with a fixed seat from a Kitten van as my reclining mechanism broke. I had several holidays in Snowdonia with my Kitten in the 90s and I used the reclining passenger seat to sleep in the vehicle. Nice to see this video. So many memories. Pure nostalgia.
@waynetetley584
@waynetetley584 2 года назад
Lewi Buch would love this. He has a Kitten project. Interesting variation on mk1 Robin. Great test 👍😊
@trenomanis
@trenomanis 2 месяца назад
Εξαιρετική η προσπάθεια της Reliant δυστυχώς ήθελε λίγη περισσότερη εξέλιξη, προσοχή στην ποιότητα και στο τελικό, προς πώληση, προϊόν και καλή προώθηση μέσω καλού δικτύου αντιπροσωπειών στην Ευρώπη. Τί πέτυχε από αυτά η Reliant; Απολύτως τίποτα! Δυστυχώς οι προσπάθειες αυτής της εταιρίας δεν ευοδώθηκαν παρότι είχε λανσάρει πρώτη και πριν από όλους πολλές καινοτόμες λύσεις οι οποίες δεν έτυχαν ούτε περεταίρω εξέλιξης, ούτε περισσότερης εργαστηριακής και επιστημονικής έρευνας και υποστήριξης. Με λίγα λόγια: αδικαίωτη προσπάθεια...
@mrjed6912
@mrjed6912 Месяц назад
A lot of Reliant's failures were influenced by terrible management. The best director they had was Ray Wiggins who hired Tom Karen for the Design of the Robin, the Kitten, the Scimitar and the Bond Bug. All his designs were very successful. However once Ray Wiggins left the company after the Robin's success, the new management denied Tom Karen's services and decided to stick to the same basics, as we all know the British motoring industry died because they never wanted to change. The Rialto from 1982, despite selling in big numbers was not as well received as the Robin, as it was essentially the same car underneath. Reliant did have the funding to make a more innovative 3 wheeler to keep up with competition, but they decided to not change anything.
@trenomanis
@trenomanis Месяц назад
@@mrjed6912 Φίλε, όντας ήδη ιδιοκτήτης ενός Austin Morris 1300, του 1969, ενός Rover 214 του 1991, ενός Reliant Riοbin του 1976 και προσφάτως ενός Austin Montego 1,3 του 1988 θα μπορούσα να σου γράφω επί ώρες πόσα αμέτρητα λάθη έχει κάνει η Αγγλική Αυτοκινητοβιομηχανία και αυτήν την στιγμή ομιλούμε μόνο για το παρελθόν! Το Reliant Kitten έπασχε κυρίως από ΠΟΙΟΤΗΤΑ. Παρακολούθησε τα συνομήλικα Γιαπωνέζικα Subaru 600, Suzuki Alto, Honda 360 κ.λπ. Η Reliant επέμεινε στην κατασκευή πλαστικών αμαξωμάτων χωρίς να κερδίζει από αυτά ούτε σε χαμηλότερο κόστος, ούτε σε καινοτόμο σχήμα, ούτε σε παθητική ασφάλεια, Το τρίκυκλο φορτηγάκι Ant, το οποίο είχε τόση επιτυχία στην Ελλάδα δεν είχε συνέχεια! Τα αυτοκίνητά της έμειναν χωρίς εξέλιξη και η κατάληξη ήταν αναμενόμενη, δυστυχώς...
@Bombastic_Spastic
@Bombastic_Spastic 2 года назад
I think ive found my new dream car
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 2 года назад
Cool little car much better looking than the 3 wheeled siblings.
@frothe42
@frothe42 2 года назад
What a delightful vehicle! The engine sounds just like Foxannn's! A shame it was not popular, and rare as well. Love that maneuverability! Wonderful test drive and review, thank you very much!
@ThreeCoos
@ThreeCoos 2 года назад
Good review Ian, thanks - when is Foxanne being treated to heater control knobs? 😄 😄
@peterriggall8409
@peterriggall8409 2 года назад
As it has 4 wheels I don’t think Mr. Bean would be terrified of this one. 😀
@stevedickson5853
@stevedickson5853 Год назад
The blue reliant van owner is still after him 😂
@Tiptonian
@Tiptonian 2 года назад
As always, excellent review and presentation. After that, are you going to get a "fast" diff or rear axle for Foxann?
@chrisrumble2665
@chrisrumble2665 2 года назад
Great minds...
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
Foxanne is heavier, so I'm a little cautious as she already isn't a massive fan of hills...
@Iansea1967
@Iansea1967 2 года назад
@@HubNut I remember seeing an article in a kit car magazine year ago about the Tempest which was Fox based. One of the options was a kit with twin SU carbs and a tubular exhaust manifold which was said to give an extra 10hp over standard. That would help with the hills a bit.
@thomas05ish
@thomas05ish 2 года назад
You didn't mention the weight of the Kitten which contributed a lot to it's fuel economy : modern cars are so heavy these days and consequently use more fuel . I remember seeing them on the roads in the seventies and eighties and they always seemed to be a dull brown colour but I suppose that was a popular shade then !
@the.internet
@the.internet 2 года назад
God I miss seeing cars like the Kitten around. Another great little drive Ian, you're putting content out thick and fast of late, or maybe I'm just watching more than usual, either way it's great viewing!
@golden.lights.twinkle2329
@golden.lights.twinkle2329 2 года назад
It always amuses me when someone test drives an old car and then criticizes it as 'dated'.
@HubNut
@HubNut 2 года назад
It was dated against the competition when it was current was my point. It was trying to compete with cars like the Ford Fiesta and Peugeot 104.
@jmurray01
@jmurray01 2 года назад
There's a Kitten a couple of villages along from me, still gets used as a regular vehicle for the owner I'm pleased to report!
@MGBetts1
@MGBetts1 2 года назад
Most people seem to think Del Boy's Reliant van was a Robin - it wasn't, it was a Regal!
@Bodgemiester
@Bodgemiester Месяц назад
It was a regal
@MGBetts1
@MGBetts1 Месяц назад
@@Bodgemiester Or to be more precise, a Supervan II or III.
@markonmotoring
@markonmotoring 2 года назад
It's not just the kitten missing the intermittent wipers. My 1988 Renault 5 TL didn't have intermittent function either, just two speeds and a flick wipe.
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