Reality of working in Cyber Security | Pros and Cons 

I agree, you need a lot of maturity, patience and good negotiation skills - nothing prepares you for that. Also, the company culture can make or break your job / seen it so many times. You are spot on!

What do you recommend someone get into who is completely new to IT but plan on going for their Bachelors

@@devnjohnson get into the field that you think will enjoy more. I elaborate more on this here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ys-_xQHaYAc.html

Depends where you work. The company you work for needs to have a mature approach to risk and we in the cyber space need to have flexibility for solutions we deem low risk

I would suggest, you are not communicating the risk to business in 'business terms'. There is IT, there is Cyber, and there is decades of experience talking to business on business terms. One business area is concerned about financial loss (data integrity), another business area is concerned about service availability and another is concerned about compliance (confidentiality). My first recommendation would be to build a business culture and understand the environment. 90% of cyber is business, psychology and negotiation. Without a business culture and environment you are pushing up hill.

yeah true! I see that, usually it's either a wishlist or just poor job description and a poor understanding of what the role entails

That’s an excellent balanced view

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Could i ask you more questions

@@Ma11ashow yes for sure, write your questions here in the comments and I’ll get to them :)

@@UnixGuy hi iam a student in university and I'm in my second year and I'm learning c++ and python and alot more but i feel my self like idk i feel like i don't know what i should doo more and i want to finish my university and start working but every body are talking about you need to take more courses soo i don't know what to do and what to take i want to be really good at my work and when i go and doo interviews i have the confidence to doo well and accept me any good tips and i feel scare sometime from the future

Lmao, thanks I guess? I’m not exhausted, this is just how I look. Watch what a day in my life looks like: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--oEd_DKeCrM.html

He looks like a twin of one of my work colleagues…I thought he looks quite fresh and healthy compared to my colleague

@@monkeyseemonkeydo432 Lol

You’re only seeing yourself in him and what you see is your narcoleptic self, I’m assuming you already feel defeated without even starting lol

@@sirsquanchy4127 lol, you guys are reading too much into how I looked

yes unfortunately it happens everywhere, it was a shock to me but hey I’m more mature now (I hope) and I try and ignore it and do my part. This video will explain to you how to go on about landing a cyber security job: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html thanks for your kind words dylan!

Dude. Electrician here and I'm also looking to switch to cyber security

My pleasure!

thanks for your kind words Jośe, I hope I’m able to help, hope you find value in the rest of the videos in the channel

100% agree! I constantly hear stories from ‘unappreciated genuines’ who have an over inflated image of their own skill

Glad you like it Maddi, hope it helps :)

You are so welcome!

Thanks man

It’s a pro for me

id say a pro! we are meant to be learning all the time

Also a pro after 5 years? ;-)

In most carrers you keep on leaning just because everything keeps on changing and becoming more modern... Trust me I know, we all know but definitely a PRO!!!

I'm so glad!

100% agree, have been there. Feels even worse when lack of appreciation is by senior management

Hope you enjoyed the two courses, security is such a broad field, something like ‘software security’ is an ocean on its own! Enjoy it, and check out my other videos, specially ones targetted at studenta :)

Do you learn or have to learn coding for a computer science degree?

@@TheAeris07 Yes. My first course in the major, even though I had no background in Comp Sci, was coding. In fact, all of my courses have had at least a little bit of coding.

@@TheAeris07 As far as “have to”, I’m not sure. Computer Science is taught differently everywhere. Although I would assume coding is too important to not be required.

@@TheAeris07 Computer science degrees are coding heavy yes, but you don't have to know coding to work in certain cyber areas like GRC for example, watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-isL1voYydl4.html

that’s good to know my friend! This video will help you understand college vs experience vs certifications: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

@@UnixGuy Great, thank you for the hyperlink and help, I will watch this.

Brush up on your Google skills because you can never know everything! Google-fu is a real skill especially for cybersec haha

I'm so sorry for your experience. I am considering cyber security as a career. What school did you go to?

@me you Hudson Valley In New York. And I've been trying to look for a job in Cyber security but so far I've had no luck. No jobs are taking me bc I don't have a bachelor's degree and I don't have any expiration. I still have hope for cybersecurity, I just gotta get one company to take a chance on me

yeah I know the type, please ignore them! they ruin it for all of us!

Thanks mate

pleasure! glad you enjoyed it :)

@@UnixGuy I am new to Cyber Security and this gave me a different perspective. Thanks

@@clwoni1414 so glad it did, wish I had someone tell me thinga when I started out, it wouldve saved me a lot of time. Here’s a playlist of ‘career advice’ type short videos that I created that may be useful as well: Cyber Security Career Advice ru-vid.com/group/PLdI5VHN89i7WdIXViD83Ut6ggA69XhDyJ

Glad it helped! Good luck with your bootcamp!

thanks Marium! I have a day in the life video that can give you a different view as well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--oEd_DKeCrM.html

good luck with your journey! exciting times ahead :)

Hey seeing you made this comment 1yr ago... So tell me how has the journey been so far

you’re most welcome Nicholas! Good luck with your degree, and I think this video will help clarify what you need in terms of degrees/certs/etc: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

you’re most welcome! check out my other videos for specific career path guidance

Good luck!

thanks mate

Thanks mate, me too!

define "fake their way into it?"

@@thelandoftwitchclips they lie about their experience and credentials

I'm getting my A.S degrees is cybersecurity should I keep going for my bachelor or should I stay at my A.S and just learn different coding?

@@eliasdejesus3806 I’d say continue for a bachelors, and try to get into a good university - in the bachelors degree you will ideally learn a lot. Also, if you can get a job while you study that would the best

you’re welcome :)

wow that must’ve been incredible to witness. You are right it’s not unique to cyber

Lmaooo, was he arrested or something?

He probably bought his fake degree on the dark web with cryptocurrency haha!

exciting time for you! congrats :)

No worries at all! that’s so exciting good luck! fun times! watch this video to explain things further: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

how exciting! enjoy it :)

Glad you found it useful Stephen 🫡

Thanks for watching Raymond. You have a wealth of life experience and your experiences in other fields are so valuable! Are you planning on switching to cyber security?

please sir am new on this path I wish to have a mentor of great experience like you to guide and mentor me

@@kengist-afamsiyke5448 watch the video in the pinned comment then let me know what questions you have :)

is it true that the actual entry level job in cybersec is sysadmin / network engnr??

@@PerpetualPreponderer not true, all explained in the video in the comment above

thanks mate

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My pleasure!

Glad it helped you mate! this video will help you get started: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ug_ruisDUXc.html

you're welcome :)

thanks mate

Excellent! Glad to hear it! Good luck and keep me posted with your progress

thanks I guess 😂

haha I wish 😅

that’s awesome, if you have your heart in it, then go for it! You are on the right track, check this video out, it’ll clarify the process of getting a job for you: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

Don't fear that, there will always be demand. The market is expanding and there is always need for skilled people. Be good at what you do, and you won't have a problem finding a job. Focus on getting real good

Bro if you are smart enough to do cyber security...forget getting a job and being a slave... Start some online business and get rich!

@@Ernster86 cyber doesn’t need a genius level brain and starting own business is a different beast

​@@UnixGuy I think you're selling yourself short. It may not require a genuius IQ but you are clearly more intelligent than the average person. Businesses require someone to be wise and hard working, not neccesarilty, "smart", but it would be a shame to waste those skills and not be free and rich, which is only possible having an online business.

@@Ernster86 Sure but to work in cyber I guarantee you you dont need outstanding IQ that’s all :)

Good luck!

@@UnixGuy Thank you

I hear you! things are getting rediculous! congrats on gettin the job :)

Interesting observations, can’t say that I came across drugs/alcohol issues but who knows. Fair comments about messy infrastructure, legacy applications, and messy patch management but hey this keep us employed ;)

Hello please suggest which best 1.cyber security 2.data analyst 3.artificial intelligence 4.data science 5. Cloud computing

@@nagendrasinghbannaji8022 all are good areas, choose the one u like

Thank u for bringing that into the conversation do u mind explaining a little bit more ab the side of cybersecurity people don’t really talk ab

what was your pay to start and what are you now

No worries at all Subbu, glad you enjoyed it :)

you’re most welcome :)

Many thanks!

Interesting question, I see it asked on Quora on a daily basis! A lot of AI/ML roles at the moment are either in universities or research and development, though as a programmer you may find some jobs, but there isn’t a lot around. I don’t believe AI/ML will completely replace cybersecurity jobs because cybersecurity is so broad, there is a legal aspect, a risk aspect, people, process so it’s not all firewalls and technology. Gradually, we’re seeing more automation (specially at the security operations side) but we’re very very far from a day where machines will replace humans for cyber security, so pursue cyber security if that’s what you’re interested in

Look up a project I supported: DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge. The best and brightest are working on this already.

my pleasure! thanks for stopping by :)

sounds good!

thanks nicholas

thanks Jenni :)

my pleasure!

GRC and consulting might be what you’re after: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-isL1voYydl4.html For a more technically deep role, you can work in a SOC as an incident responder, you don’t exactly need coding but it’s VERY technical: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RhW1LjFliB4.html

thank you :)

@@UnixGuy I’m definitely interested in pursuing this career’

@@ProgressWithChristina that's awesome! I recommend starting with this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html , let me know if you have questions!

thanks mate

It depends on why you're doing the masters? I always recommend getting some experience before investing in a masters. yes a mix of networking and cyber is good

Hi,Im looking to go into this degree next year,any advice

thanks mate

hey mate, this video explains the process: How to get a Cyber Security job without experience ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

no worries at all :)

thanks :)

the length of your degree will depend on the university and their admission rules. typically, you should get credit from your associate degree. Math also depends on the university itself but usually they shouldn’t be math heavy

I’ve seen people move directly from financial crimes to cyber, you just need to network, get your CV ready and tweaked and apply for as many jobs as possible! You have a masters so you have some cyber knowledge, don’t undersell yourself. it’s hard getting your foot in the door but its not impossible. Watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dqbs-bYGKqE.html

I do know banking and health care are some of the best “paying” companies to be in and are HIGHLY regarded when on a resume. I have friends who do cybersecurity within the banking industry, is moving laterally possible?

@@26b47 definitely! watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

I haven’t done them but after of my subscribers mentioned them, they appear to be a lab based training which is always a plus! I’d say do it to learn a skill, but for more in demand certs, aim to do the ones I tlak about here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Uv4AHFu-uR0.html

you’re welcome! glad you’re enjoying the videos :)

pleasure :)

Hey Ashley, congrats on finish the technical certificate, it's a great achievement and shows initiative and willingness to learn. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, but don't let that stop you from pursuing what you want to do. I interviewed many people who were shy and introverted, that's okay. What you can do is just be polite, be professional, on time, and be yourself. People know that you're new to the field and won't expect you to know everything from the get go, just show them your willingness to learn and grow. Also be professional, and look the part too. Also, research the hell out of the company and the role BEFORE the interview, this will show that you care about this and you're serious. I'm sure you have other skills too that you can highlight, talk about your time management skills and your professionalism as well. As far as technical and practical skills are concerned, I talk a lot about this in my other videos. The best solution for this is to first pick a cyber specialisation (any specialisation, doesn't matter in the beginning) and do practical certifications with a a lab component; This will give you some handson experience and will solidify the concepts. The other piece of advice is for you to apply to AS MANY jobs as possible, get exposed to jobs, interviews, this will help you get over your fear (or at least improve it), and also will increase your likelihood of finding a job. Don't be too picky with your first job because you need it to gain experience. It'll happen, you just have to accept that landing your first role will take time :) you got this! please keep me posted with your progress, and if you have specific questions about interviews, post them here and I'll answer.

Thanks mate

Good luck :)

Hey Mohamed, glad you’re enjoying the content! What do you study? I wouldn’t worry about work life balance for now, because it depends on the company, the team you’re in, your boss and a lot of the factors. Security operations roles and incident response roles are the ones with the worst work/life balance, roles focused on cyber risk/assurance are more relaxed but they can get real busy depending on the organisation. Software development and security aren’t really intertwined. You can do automation for security operations centre or DevSecOps. You can also be a programmer for a security vendor. Coding skills are always handy, but not always needed. The other area would be penetration testing but I wouldnt say it’s a relaxed area

@@UnixGuy thanks for the reply, I'm studying management information systems (MIS). Would roles in security architecture fit into a good work life balance like security / system engineer? And when you say cyber risk/assurance what actual job titles would be in this category?( sorry don't know too much about the domain in cybersecurity)

@@mohamedamin1450 no worries at all. Your course is good because it should give you some business knowledge. Yes security architecture should ideally have a good work/life balance. However, to be a ‘good’ architect you need a minimum of 10 years of experience so something to aspire to. Cyber risk/assurance titles can vary; it can be ‘security consultant’ or ‘security analyst’ , those titles are broad so it’ll depend on the job description and duties not so much the title

As someone who has been working in Cyber Security for 5 years I personally have a great work/life balance. It's so good I actually work two different positions for two different companies. It's all about time allocation.

@@lumpyfinn4410 What positions are they if i may ask?

I 100% agree, I’m not a fan of companies thst do that. But keep trying my friend, it took a while to move to cyber security. I faced the same issue! I tried to explain how to frame your exisring experience to cyber experience in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-McoZ2HoYqrw.html

Sounds like a good plan to me! this video explains the process: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html (part time job is a great idea)

Congratulations. I also intend to study cybersecurity in the UK! Can I please have a medium to contact you?😊

@Aldo King Will do! It might take a semester to update you but I promise I'll try!

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Hi Jun, you basically need to build your skills in cyber security just like you did with design/CAD. I think Cert IV is an excellent option because it covers a lot of topic, it’s free in some states and lower investment. I know people who get jobs after doing Cert IV but there are no guarantees. No degree/cert can guarantee a job in cyber (or any other field) but it’s a great starting point. You will learn a lot, once you finish that try and get a job in cyber or even in IT and that will be the beginning of your journey. You don’t need to do a degree because you already have one, but you will need to study a lot and do certifications once you’re done with Cert IV. Watch this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dqbs-bYGKqE.html Good luck and keep me posted with your progress.

@@UnixGuy hello, what u think about cybersecurity courses? Can it give me a start in it?

@@asdasdasdasd-uj2jz this video will explain to you the pathway: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

Thanks for sharing your experience. I totally understand! The rediculous job requirements are the reason why I started this channel, because I know expecting a fresh grad to have experience is just wrong! I know it’s a tough spot to be in, but once you get your first role, life gets infinitely easier! I create this video to talk about how to get your first role and what you can do to combat that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

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lie & learn on the job.

@@differentpaths5784 I don’t recommend lying

@@UnixGuy pure sarcasm

then you found your calling! There is graveyard shift work if you work as a SOC analyst, I explain it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HohIYcNd_VM.html

Never forgotten, being in a SOC is a great learning opportunity. I have a video about becoming an incident responder and another about a cyber attack I responded to in a sco

It depends, most places I worked at do a police check to check criminal records, but that’s not unique to cyber security, the same thing happen to IT. I think this will be down to the company policy and on an individual case by case basis. You can always explain it when asked about it

Thanks mate! For your first job, you should aim to get any job you can! A job in a SOC is good because it gives you good exposure, consulting is good too but I’d personally accept anything

@@UnixGuy i have personal experience of 4 years (self taught) in Penetration testing, I Will be Receiving my ComptTIA exam marks, for the go. a pattern i have noticed is how difficult it is to find a job that requires 2 years of experience in the workplace. How do i counter this and actually get a job? I Already have hacked systems using a variety of techniques giving me the experience due to all the practice. but I don't have that (experience in the workplace) And so I Assume After I Am certified I will have a hard time finding a job because of it.

You can get a bachelors or a masters degree in cyber security, I’m not sure what ‘specialised school entail’ . I talk about this further in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

not anymore than any other job which is why you need to exercise and lead a healthy life style. Watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HjtTTRmv0wM.html

I don’t disagree, watch this: ru-vid.comsQeG4KLM83g i created this entire channel to help more people get their first entry level role. It’s hard but it’s not impossible, more companies now are willing to hire fresh grads and mentor them :)

I am blessed to be experiencing this mentorship approach as part of an apprenticeship that includes cybersecurity. More companies are starting to get on the train for this movement and both parties benefit. It’s still new to many but if you keep looking you’re sure to find a similar opportunity.

@@JoseJimenez-go5wc really glad to hear that you’re going through proper mentorship. I except this will become the norm in the future - at least that’s my goal

Yea, we get it. Than what the point ? How they won't hire and get experience if they don't hire ? That's stupid .

@@Moodboard39 I am trying to help more people get their foot in the door to build up experience in this channel

Not necessarily, in this video I explain the difference between degrees/certs and when you need either: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

hey mate, start by watching this video to learn how to get to cyber: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html then watch this, GRC doesn’t require coding: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-isL1voYydl4.html

you’re welcome :)

Hey Danilo, I have many videos that explain this, start with this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

CCNP and MCSE are totally unnecessary, start with security certs. Another good start would be cloud, check this out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NGvgJKtygwo.html

I do have individual videos about various career paths, I put them in this playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLdI5VHN89i7XgaT-dWsthpAKOmjAF3gCR Make sure to subscribe as I have more videos coming with more details :)

thanks Xavier :)

Hey mate: 1) I don’t recommend EC-Council certs at all. If you want to do certification, pick a specialisation and follow the certs that I recommend , here is a playlist of the specialitions that I talked about: ru-vid.com/group/PLdI5VHN89i7XgaT-dWsthpAKOmjAF3gCR 2) Yes but they are for people with a lot of experience and seniority. and they’re the exception not the norm. 400K is a senior executive level and a true rarity 3) AI or not, technology will continue to evolve, so we need to keep on upskilling anyway.

honestly you can do either be fine, it depends on how you learn and how driven/consistent you are. I recommend you watch this video, I explain the process further: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

Hi Kryssa, this video will explain the process: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html

You’re welcome mate, glad you’re enjoying the videos. You definitely can, it’ll be a career change for you so you need to go through the same process that people fo through (learn, study, practice, certs, experience)

Hey mate, the fact that you have a PhD means that you are no stranger to working hard. I’ve seen people transition from academia with various levels of success. There are many options for you, you can approach consulting firms or even try to apply directly to companies and see what they say - someone might take a chance on you without training. Either way, you will still need to build your knowledge and you’ll need to do it through certifications. I recommend starting with CompTIA Security+ (plenty of free resources online), then once you finish it and pass the exam, you’ll need to pick a specialisation and cert up in that specialisation. This video explains the process of getting a job: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GPmVphOqSGY.html and this is a playlist of videos that go into details about each cyber specialisation: list=PLdI5VHN89i7XgaT-dWsthpAKOmjAF3gCR

@@UnixGuy Thanks very much mate. I've subbed for future content!

@@oldboyengineer9794 good luck 🤞🏻

hey mate, it’s not harder or easier than nursing, it really is just hard work, you need to put in the time and be patient. It’s also a lot less structured than nursing :)

It’s really funny and true! I moved back to consulting because I got bored to tears, but yeah I hear you specially with the holier than thou personalitlies. Do what’s best for you and it’s amazing how no one wants to actually talk about realities of this field

what a great insight. Can we connect on Linkendlin?

@@johnsonmeshioye2776 thanks mate, I haven’t opened it for public yet. I answer all questions here in the comments section

What did you end up doing then? I was thinking of starting cyber security, but after trying to get the Net+ and Sec+ certs I realised it was only the money I was passionate about.

What you’re referring to is computer/laptop maintenance, which isn’t really a viable path. If you like computers, consider a bachelors of computer science, you might take a liking to programming which is an awesome path