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Really nice "flip flap" pendulum kicker - with schematic 

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@charlesmoore456
@charlesmoore456 Год назад
I built a solar pendulum using the book, "JunkBots, Bugbots, and Bots on Wheels" that we used in our Electronics class in college. I modified it to use sunlight or battery. The main cap is 4700μF and the coil is a 1H "Major Henry" you used to be able to buy at "Solarbotics." It's 12 years old and still "kicking."
@volvo09
@volvo09 Год назад
The blue "happy flower" one was really high quality. Brass bushings? Wow. They've certainly figured out how to cheapen these down.
@liquidsonly
@liquidsonly Год назад
My advise, never make bushings or bearing from brass. It's a terrible bearing material. Use bronze.
@hgbugalou
@hgbugalou Год назад
One of the things I love about Clive is he has become a jack of all trades by just being curious (and I am sure through professional experience and age). I have run into him on electronic podcasts and HVACR podcasts. Its something all men should strive for as I think it genuinely helps our mental health and keeps our minds healthy. I just watched something about how young men are struggling, and stuff like this can really help keep you sane. Women too, if you are into this stuff. 👍
@springwoodcottage4248
@springwoodcottage4248 Год назад
How beautifully built, lovely & simple. When you are back home it would make a nice oscilloscope version video, showing the waveforms as light levels increase up to full operation. Thank you for sharing!
@sometimesleela5947
@sometimesleela5947 Год назад
Definitely would like to see that waveform. We need to chip in for Clive to get a pocket scope he can have at all times.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
I have pocket scopes but tend to travel with just my real work tools.
@wafikiri_
@wafikiri_ Год назад
Wow, what with the many push-pull flip-flops I've seen, I never met a PNP/NPN one! Thank you, keep the good work. Always nice to watch your videos.
@bradfordd01
@bradfordd01 Год назад
I've always been fascinated by these little solar guys. Very happy to see a breakdown on how they actually work.
@Vilvaran
@Vilvaran Год назад
A thing worthy of note; these little solar cells are Amorphous type, like those found in garden lights... However, unlike the garden light, the solars in calculators and the like are a specific low-light or indoor type! They are only capable of handling light levels up to 100K LUX; basically putting them in direct sunlight degrades their performance; ruining the low-light performance.
@Rainer_Landes
@Rainer_Landes Год назад
Thanks for that explanation @Vilvaran. I got one about 3 months ago and put it at my south window. A few days ago I realized that it was now less sensitive at dawn.... :(
@piconano
@piconano Год назад
That 100nF cap across the inductor is a very interesting use of a tank circuit. If the colour code is red red yellow gold as pictured, then the coil is 220mH, which will make the resonance frequency with the 0.1uF cap, at about 1KHz. I built a Bedini pendulum decades ago. It used a single transistor but had a base winding. Then got board and converted it to a Bedini SSG motor with my son for his school science project. We both learned a lot about pulse motors and their efficiencies. It even fools people into thinking they found free energy!!!
@RolfRBakke
@RolfRBakke Год назад
The cap is for noise dampening.
@kimchristensen2175
@kimchristensen2175 Год назад
I made one of those and put a small speaker in series with the battery. Made an odd beepy/squawking noise every time the transistor fired. Fun stuff.
@lawrencerubanka7087
@lawrencerubanka7087 Год назад
So THAT'S how those thingies work. Always good. Thanks Clive!
@Aco747lyte
@Aco747lyte Год назад
That is wonderfully built, though that coil would've been a kicker if I had to wind it myself! Nice one Clive, and I love how that neatly that pendulum swings in. ❤
@amorphuc
@amorphuc Год назад
Rather ingenious to think something like that up. Thanks for sharing Big Clive.
@jrsc01.
@jrsc01. Год назад
love the amount of work you do to bring thee vids to us, even cropping the printer photos with a guillotine to make it look neater, an extra step not required but appreciated!
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 Год назад
i pulled one of these things out of a rubbish bin. it was broken. i reassembled it many times before i got it right and i'm glad i did. its much simpler in construction than the ones shown here. a wonderful office desk toy. very glad these things got the big clive treatment
@Ozzy3333333
@Ozzy3333333 Год назад
The puzzle "top secret" spinning top puzzle is also very clever for its purpose. 9v battery, one coil with tap and one transistor. Thanks for sharing.
@getcartercarpark.
@getcartercarpark. Год назад
Good to see an actual circuit of one of these instead of just the "black blob" in a circuit. Now we know....... 8-).
@ItsMrAssholeToYou
@ItsMrAssholeToYou Год назад
Half the battle right there.
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Год назад
I like it when clive time travels on his videos👍🏻🇬🇧😀
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 Год назад
in ONE MOMENT PLEASE😊
@g8xft
@g8xft Год назад
Causing a bit of a flap there Clive
@chrisprobert6
@chrisprobert6 Год назад
At what point does a flap, become a flop.....😅
@g8xft
@g8xft Год назад
@@chrisprobert6 after it flips too far
@konstantinlogashenko1445
@konstantinlogashenko1445 Год назад
I remember building a similar circuit some time as a thing that drives a small electric motor from a small solar cell that didn't have enough current to power it. Also had a big capacitor to store the energy and then two transistors for switching. I never thought it could be used in the solar pendulum toys, but I guess they are essentially a motor anyway.
@fazergazer
@fazergazer Год назад
Using the pendulum to send a pulse back to first transistor results in the mechanical and electrical circuits going into resonance very clever. ❤ some principles remind me of electromagnetic rail launchers
@KerboOnYT
@KerboOnYT Год назад
Brass bushings on something simple. Those were the days.
@mikepanchaud1
@mikepanchaud1 Год назад
You can keep these going all night by soldering a 4.7 Farad super capacitor directly across the solar cell, a discharge protection diode is not required. It will take a few minutes to charge initially but from then on never appears to stop! I've had one going for over a year non stop.
@Rainer_Landes
@Rainer_Landes Год назад
I got mine a few months ago and I put it at the south window. Sometimes I am sleepless at night. So I defined: When the Flower thing is flapping, then it's day ;-) This would be ruined by that super cap.
@lorenzo.c
@lorenzo.c Год назад
Interesting circuit. Thanks. If I had to guess, the inductor and the 100n cap form a parallel LC oscillator. If you were able to measure the impedance of the inductor you would be able to calculate the frequency. The moving permanent magnet is then pushed in opposite directions in an alternate fashion.
@RolfRBakke
@RolfRBakke Год назад
The capacitor is for noise dampening.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Год назад
"That's a Win" said the little plastic cat waving its forepaw rhythmically where it sat on the counter to the left of the massage parlor mama-san. "Yes, Yes indeed" she replied quietly in Cantonese, a slight smile touching her lips as she slowly sorted the banknotes into the cash drawer beneath the counter. "Perhaps I will leave the light on for you tonight."
@Palmit_
@Palmit_ Год назад
are u mixing japanese aith chinese?
@AttilaAsztalos
@AttilaAsztalos Год назад
"...are you SURE I stop beckoning if you don't though...?" the little maneki-neko added quietly - "after all, you can't see what I'm doing when it's dark..."
@ksbs2036
@ksbs2036 Год назад
So much fun. Thanks Clive!
@NaoPb
@NaoPb Год назад
Ooh, I love these. Thanks for this. I am considering using this to build my own. Would be funny to make a waving bigclive in a flowerpot hehe.
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 Год назад
Old electro-mechanical pendulum clocks had a similar very simple arrangement, with magnet, coil, and one or two transistors.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Pendulum version video already made and coming soon. (single transistor version).
@pmpwiz
@pmpwiz Год назад
I've had a Doraemon version of one of these sitting on my Jeep dash for 9 years now. Still rockin' strong!
@markstuckey6225
@markstuckey6225 Год назад
Very similar to early electric car clocks. The balance wheel and hairspring set the frequency and the electronics just provided the energy.
@keithking1985
@keithking1985 Год назад
Was thinking about this circuit recently. Thanks Clive 👍
@Slikx666
@Slikx666 Год назад
Have fun up there Clive. 😀👍
@mikepanchaud1
@mikepanchaud1 Год назад
I think the tricky part of a DIY version is the coil, very thin wire and a lot of it to get to 1500 ohms!
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude Год назад
You can easily make thousands of winding on a coil with a normal battery drill. You spin the coil with the drill and spool the wire onto the coil. I did that for a guitar pickup some time ago, worked first try and took like 30 minutes for 1000 windings.
@mscir
@mscir Год назад
I'd like to see the current from the battery powering it, as it's getting up to speed, and when it's at speed. Great analysis.
@randallgoldapp9510
@randallgoldapp9510 Год назад
This is a relaxation oscillator. I found a very similar circuit in a flasher lamp off a safety barricade.
@d.t.4523
@d.t.4523 Год назад
Thank you. Keep working, good luck.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Год назад
Seems so very unusual to see actual machined sleeve bearings used on such a thing, versus every one else's plastic-on-plastic friction points... :P
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
They feel more like pressed eyelets.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley Год назад
Unlike some calculator solar panels, this one seems to be real!
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 Год назад
Standard SCR configured pnp-npn combo. for the regenerative latch effect. ( b-c of npn to c-b of pnp). Because the b-e of the npn has a dc blocking cap, It requires that trickle bias current from the 2M2+ 1M series resistance resistance divider to tickle it to flip-flap around
@jaimeortega4940
@jaimeortega4940 Год назад
Pretty cool, simple solution!
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale Год назад
4:08 I thought we’d finally flipped to fluorescent pink paper for schematics until you stopped down the camera!
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 Год назад
At first I thought "Ew, terrible white balance!" Then I thought, "Oh, wait, it's Clive. He's probably using pinkish-purplish paper." And then I thought, "Boooo, it was just a white balance problem."
@tazz1669
@tazz1669 Год назад
Thanks Clive great explanation as always
@TeslaTales59
@TeslaTales59 Год назад
Very cool. Reminds me of the little cat with waving had at a Japanese restaurant!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Usually the blob chip these days.
@simonhopkins3867
@simonhopkins3867 Год назад
Nice one buddy. I have to admit i don't fancy winding that coil by hand😉
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 Год назад
For some reason that reminded me of your Joule thief videos. I was wondering if anyone had a more efficient design for those.
@picobyte
@picobyte Год назад
There is also a single transistor version with no other components needed. But that does need an seperate trigger winding.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Coming soon. (Video made.)
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo Год назад
Very clever circuit, always more interesting to see something done with a couple BJTs than some black box. Looks easy enough to copy, inductor is the only question, can you buy a coil like that or would it need to be hand wound?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
It would be better to buy a spool of wires and wind it with an improvised winding aid like a cordless drill.
@jeffdayman8183
@jeffdayman8183 Год назад
I hope you will repair the broken plastics and get the gizmo back in service. (for the good of humanity) 8^) It's a neat circuit. Cheers!
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis Год назад
Random lady at the office: “Anybody seen my big happy dancing flower? It has been on my desk for almost 10 years since my daughter got it for me and now gone missing.”
@Frankhe78
@Frankhe78 Год назад
Flappy Hour - Happy Flower
@kareno8634
@kareno8634 Год назад
Thanks Clive! Using "Vintage" and "Good Construction" in same sentence; Showing 'circuitry to see how item works'; Leaves One wondering, what's left in 'next era' to *'learn' about 'Quality' .... Under a Blob?* Value question: where did _'the Older the Wiser'_ go? will 'new era' ever learn from them?
@kimtae858
@kimtae858 Год назад
The best you can do is dissolve the "blob" and use high powered microscopy to inspect the individual junctions on the silicone die. It's a nasty process to remove the epoxy and once done, you're left with a tracing task so onerous I'd only attempt it if I was getting payed handsomely for my time.
@harrischalk
@harrischalk Год назад
Love simple circuits like these, very refreshing compared to some of the more complicated PCB designs you have reverse engineered in the past (flashback from the Ferrex drill!).
@TheEPROM9
@TheEPROM9 Год назад
It's very similar to the BEAM Robots version with a few components swap around, but both work in the same way.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Год назад
@1:34 - "That is very stiff with age." Alas, if it only worked out that way in real life...
@Tims_Projects
@Tims_Projects Год назад
Fantastic. Defiantly going to have a go at making something with this circuit. It's just finding the right coil, don't fancy winding my own. Hard part is what phrase to use in the search engine ha-ha.
@keithking1985
@keithking1985 Год назад
An old battery clock has nice coils in them. You should get oscillations going with one of them. You could try it.
@Tims_Projects
@Tims_Projects Год назад
@@keithking1985ha-ha It just so happens I have just replaced one of those cheap quarts mechanisms in my wife's kitchen wall clock she got free with Tetley teabags decades ago. Haven't thrown the old one out yet.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo Год назад
I suspect value is not terribly critical, I'd try some small solenoid/relay coils with the core removed. I think jumble/solenoid winding will do here, so the only winding difficulty would be working with such fine wire, probably #30 or thinner.
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 Год назад
Wow a flappy solar thingy without a blob chip?!! This surprised me! I like when mfrs dont hide the circuitry or put everything in one chip, now i can also reproduce the circuit without decapping the chip and reverse engineer silicon
@brianallen9810
@brianallen9810 Год назад
These are kind of neat but the wires on the newer ones are so small and fragile they break and because they're coated soldering them back on is difficult. The older one is much better, wish they still made them like that.
@sshuggi
@sshuggi Год назад
The first location's desk/lighting actually looked really good on camera. Maybe update the bench at home, or would that be sacrilege?
@rehnmaak
@rehnmaak Год назад
How does it turn off the transistor? I guess when the magnetic field decrease the induced voltage goes negative and the base current is decreased. It means the transistor is on when the magnet is getting closer and off when it is moving away. Very clever.
@fazergazer
@fazergazer Год назад
Self resonance!!!❤🎉
@phonotical
@phonotical Год назад
I had the hula girl and I saw the Mr bean at the weekend 🤣 The first time I came across them was wirh a hideous bright purple, chromed, dolphin, also from the pound shop in maybe the very late 90s,and three guesses as to whether it ever worked 🤣
@zungalele
@zungalele Год назад
Would be nice to see the changes in voltage with a multimeter.
@rexsceleratorum1632
@rexsceleratorum1632 Год назад
A 'scope you mean
@srmoll
@srmoll Год назад
I would like to know how you produce such good printed scans of PCBs. What gear are you using to take the pictures and what printer and paper stock are you using?
@foorje
@foorje Год назад
Clive has a video on his channel about this! It's called "How I get my crisp macro shots with tupper-cam" .
@Jawst
@Jawst Год назад
I still have my original flappy flower 😂 hiding away somewhere broken, that was one of the first things I bought from China!
@youdontknowme5969
@youdontknowme5969 Год назад
My niece collects these things. I bet she has over 30 now in several windows 😁
@marcse7en
@marcse7en Год назад
We can ALWAYS rely on you, Big Clive, for in-depth analysis, and fascinating reverse-engineering of World-changing 🌍 green 🌱 technologies! 👍 ... It's just a pity said technology is Made in China ... from plastic! 👎🤣
@jeffeloso
@jeffeloso Год назад
Sounds just like the wiggle pots that we have
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
Oooo, an outside broadcast Almost live video from Edinburgh. 🤣 Interesting wee thing 2x👍
@oorangejuce
@oorangejuce Год назад
The People demand a repair video! 😁
@harleycruize7425
@harleycruize7425 Год назад
Thanks!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Thanks. Much appreciated.
@GUCR44
@GUCR44 Год назад
Very cool man! I love your vids.. Best to your brother.. Peace man Rolfie
@igrim4777
@igrim4777 Год назад
On my family pics I don't like borders. On your technical images, I think the border looks more professional and helps seperate the image from the the bench.
@sasgeek888
@sasgeek888 Год назад
So what to 3d print to replace the happy flower?
@christastic100
@christastic100 Год назад
Neat idea
@ziginox
@ziginox Год назад
The best thing I learned from this video is the word "gazumph" exists! Interesting that your camera went magenta when overexposed during the reverse engineering segment. I wonder how that happened.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Poor lighting and really weird colour temperature.
@SuburbanDon
@SuburbanDon Год назад
I have one of these in my front window and it's still going for years. The plastic is faded by UV but still...
@LoPhatKao
@LoPhatKao Год назад
probably wouldn't have noticed the borders on the circuit printout🤷
@CH11LER.
@CH11LER. Год назад
Could you look at the cheep ebay solar panels for cars? Mine was about £13, it came with a cigarette 12v, battery terminal clamps and also a connector to the obd2 port. I have mine plugged into the obd2 port as it was the longest wire. It also has 2 usb ports and 1 usb c port. If I charge my phone through it while it's still plugged into the car, it knocks the radio off. I was hoping you could do a teardown of one to see if it can be "fixed" with a resistor or something
@Neffers_UK
@Neffers_UK Год назад
Are you gonna delve into "Neko Waving Lucky Cat" items that have a similar mode of operation? Similarly amusing to watch. I assume the lil cap across the inductor is some sort of filter, so as the device runs out of power it doesn't "buzz" when low on power, due to not having enough current to propel the magnet beyond center.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Lucky cat already investigated.
@benwinkel
@benwinkel Год назад
Just out of curiosity i would like to know if you're familiar with Lidmotor's channel? This is just the kind of thing that is fiddling around with.
@DejitaruJin
@DejitaruJin Год назад
Oh, I like this. I have to wonder how precisely tuned any of those components are, or if you just need to get vaguely close for it to work.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
There's usually a wide margin.
@soundspark
@soundspark Год назад
Some of your videos are "Potato Vision" because RU-vid has chosen to paywall full bandwidth for 1080p. If you can record in 50/60fps and/or at a higher resolution like 1440p or 2160p it seems to still circumvent that mode. Edit: Add 50 for those in 50Hz/PAL countries.
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 Год назад
Great to see one of these flip flaps with discrete circuitry! Now I know how to build the silly kinetic sculpture thingy that was on Pepper's desk in _Iron Man 2._ (I was obsessed with it for a while, but now...meh.) Anyway, thank you for another great reverse engineer of tacky tat. I always look forward to your next video, and am never disappointed.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
The swinging sticks ornament is pretty neat.
@debgreentree
@debgreentree Год назад
Massive cool
@fredflintstone1
@fredflintstone1 Год назад
OOH!! pink paper look 🙂
@merlynsfire1275
@merlynsfire1275 Год назад
awwww so close to the answer I seek :) I want to make a device to gentle keep my hammock swinging gently while I sleep/fall asleep, like a pendulum, but lack the knowledge to make one. Have to watch this again a few times, can it be scaled??.. love the video's, I find them very relaxing too
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Something like that might exist. Probably motorised.
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 11 месяцев назад
Since the young village girls who migrate to the cities for jobs making this type of tat are only paid pennies for long shifts before going home to pretty rough accommodations, you might be able to import a couple to take turns swinging your hammock Punkha Wallah-style for a very economical rate? 🤔😉😁
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 Год назад
Clive, I hope everything is going well with the shows. We'll try not to send any more hot weather from the States. 😅
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
We actually need more sunshine. It's been very wet here. Not so much fun for the audience, and worse for the performers.
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 Год назад
@@bigclivedotcom understood. I hope to one day get to see the Tattoo; Scotland is on my bucket list.
@alunjones3860
@alunjones3860 Год назад
The IC needs to be more complex to get around the fact it's impossible to put a 2.2µF capacitor on a chip. It might use a tiny capacitor and an op-amp based capacitance multiplier circuit, or something completely different.
@terrym1065
@terrym1065 Год назад
Awesome, do all these pendulum, coil devices have circuits or are some just coil and magnet? I have a "Lucky Cat" but don't want to disassemble, it was rather expensive being painted ceramic. Thanks Clive, very interesting.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo Год назад
Most will just have a blob chip doing everything, this one is interesting because it's early enough to not use an IC.
@petehiggins33
@petehiggins33 Год назад
If you can design one with just a coil and magnet then your Nobel prize awaits.
@ShadowzGSD
@ShadowzGSD Год назад
1:32 that sums up my experience, old and stiff. 😂
@zebo-the-fat
@zebo-the-fat Год назад
Nice!
@xavierdemers-bouchard2747
@xavierdemers-bouchard2747 Год назад
Nice new table#
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Temporary accommodation.
@TravisTev
@TravisTev Год назад
4:03 For a moment I thought BigClive had finally managed to find a giant pink pad to sketch schematics on. How disappointing. :-)
@Rainer_Landes
@Rainer_Landes Год назад
Were you able to repair it? It looked a bit sad at the beginning of your video.....
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
It had broken when I tried to clean it, because the sunlight had degraded the plastic.
@alvaros.
@alvaros. Год назад
4:11 Ah, it wasn't a pink notebook.... 🙂
@Evergreen64
@Evergreen64 Год назад
So what makes the coil have such high resistance? If you measure resistance in most transformers and such it tends to be pretty low.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
It's wound with a very long length of extremely thin wire.
@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 Год назад
If one were to make one of these, what sort of off the shelf coil would work? Or if winding one, how critical is the wire, diameter and number of turns?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
The choice of coil and capacitor might take a bit of experimentation.
@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 Год назад
Ugh nothing is easy. Even the simplest childish enjoyment turns into a tedious engineering chore
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 Год назад
​@@pleasecho2 Designed & Built by Engineers who love kids & their fascination for toys..
@frogz
@frogz Год назад
love seeing 1st gen products before they cheapen them, always so over-engineered why use brass bushings when you can use a chunk of potato? i wonder if this is the same circuit as those perpetual motion machines that have the balls that uses a magnet at the bottom of the ramp to keep it going(or the cheapest versions... a motor haha)
@Flojer0
@Flojer0 Год назад
I won't, but I want to build a lawn ornament sized pendulum thing now
@Schlups
@Schlups Год назад
Does it matter in which direction the pendulum swings over the coil?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
No. But polarity experimentation might be required.
@Noconstitutionfordemocrats1
How much voltage does the solar chip provide?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
2V.
@grandpaseed
@grandpaseed Год назад
hmmm wonder if you could harvest excess energy to charge a cell?
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