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REAR END - What's inside the 1855's backside? 

That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey
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What do I find inside the rear end of this Oliver 1855? I dig in to get the hydraulic system removed, and take the covers off to give the guts a good inspection. There's fire involved, so you know is has to be good!
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@catdog8641
@catdog8641 Год назад
Boy oh boy 🤩. After 35 years plus. I finally getting to see all the good stuff 😁😎
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
Remember, it can’t be tight if it’s a liquid.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Darn tootin. When in doubt, burn it out.
@Dan-qy1rg
@Dan-qy1rg Год назад
Certainly a lot to know, I tip my hat to you getting that type of knowledge is priceless, in my opinion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a good adjustable wrench, or a good pair of vice grips. Getting along with the 1855, gonna look good when you getter completed. Thanks Chris, have a great day!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Thanks Dan. I've got several videos waiting in the wings, but everything thing mechanical is done at this point. Time to get the old girl back together!
@Adam_Poirier
@Adam_Poirier Год назад
Hey buddy, all the stuff that you have taught me over the past few years maybe I can return the favor. Also, this is not meant to be a keyboard mechanic comment lol..when you took that big hydraulic line off of the top cover, you warmed up the cover and then eventually the nut and the cover were both red hot. The problem with warming up the cover is it expands into the nut and actually gets tighter. It's the cooling off a lot of times that breaks something free in a situation like that. Dealing with all the old forklifts, they all have that same problem. I have found what works the best is if you heat the nut up good and hot and then walk away. Come back a couple minutes later and as the nut cools down it shrinks and it breaks free from whatever it's threaded into. Then I spray a little weasel piss on there and they come right out every time. Awesome Sunday video as usual. Looking forward to seeing this one done although spring is creeping up on you pretty fast.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
My experience has been, if want to make it go, you need to make it glow. I should have let it cool a little more because I did distort the nut a little, but my experience has been they go easiest while glowing a little. I'll try your suggestion next time, I'm never too old to learn a new trick
@johnbender1596
@johnbender1596 Год назад
Never thought that in retirement I would sit at home and watch others do what I did for a living! For some strange reason it is enjoyable? Thanks Chris.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Hopefully I'm doing it right! Thanks for watching!
@mikehill9888
@mikehill9888 Год назад
Thanks for the video. Making the tractor work well again.😊
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Yes, thanks
@steveschumacher5470
@steveschumacher5470 Год назад
one more step in the journey
@hightail5313
@hightail5313 Год назад
A White 2-105 fan from Indiana. Looks familiar even when I'm upside down and backwards!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Very familiar.
@darweb3417
@darweb3417 Год назад
Another good one. Thanks.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@bigun447
@bigun447 Год назад
I noticed that the 2 bolts that are at the back of the frame just inside of the top 3-point bolt on spot appear to not have been made one size larger. We had the famous gasket walk-out problem on those covers. The top link flexed the back of the hydraulic housing a very tiny bit and that would cause the base gasket to walk itself out and start a leak. Oliver suggested drilling the case threads out and taping the holes 1 size larger. It stopped the problem as one could torque the bolts tighter without fearing breaking the bolt. Remember the pump drive retaining nut that they did not design the proper lock for. Pull the PTO shaft and it would drop down into the transmission case if the tech did not hear it drop when they put the PTO back in and start the tractor the nut would cause great damage when it sometimes would exit thru the side of the housing. The fix was to pull the tops off and put the new locking parts on. I bought a big crow foot tool so that I could reach in thru the hydraulic pump opening and reinstall that nut using a healthy dose of thread locker. The red stuff made sure the nut never came loose unless you applied heat. It was a pain to work thru that pump mount hole but it sure beat having to remove the cab. The bonus was that the warranty flat rate for doing that the way they said to do it was it paid for having nicks and cuts on one's arms and hands and better shop profit. I still have that tool and when I see it sitting in my tool boxes it brings back painful thoughts of all of those nicks and cuts.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
This one is late enough to have the 1/2" bolts to hold the cover, plus the 5/8 conical bolts. Wait until the episode where I replace the 3 point lift cylinder seals. That distortion is discussed, including a solution I was not aware of all these years.
@isaiahshaffer
@isaiahshaffer Год назад
That transmission looks much healthier than the one in the 1600 I have! it’s still stuck in gear, it’s missing teeth and they rode up on each other, it has clicked while moving since we bought it and I’m assuming that’s why, because there is no teeth laying anywhere in the case. I’m enjoying the progress of yours though!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
I was happy to see it in such good shape. That tractor did a lot of plowing in its lifetime.
@isaiahshaffer
@isaiahshaffer Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I guess as long as they are maintained and treated well they’ll hold up, ours came from a seed corn farm so who knows who all ran it and how!
@mikekalsem5507
@mikekalsem5507 Год назад
Great Video as Always, Chris!!! 👍 I believe the outside threads on the lifting eyes were used for Rear cast wheel centers!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
I knew they must have had a use! Now my next question, how?
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris line them up square with a hole and hammer it home.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
@@rosstheoliverman that's what she said.
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ❤️❤️❤️
@rosstheoliverman
@rosstheoliverman Год назад
@Jamie and Michelle Bowman Just keep shovin till you find one you like
@trainmasterfm2
@trainmasterfm2 Год назад
Hey Chris, I was browsing the interwebs and found a pretty nice 82 2-105 4x4 going up for auction on Thursday the 30th in West Branch,MI, on Tractor Zoom. Thought maybe that might be of some interest to you.
@trainmasterfm2
@trainmasterfm2 Год назад
Forgot to mention it's an open station.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Dang, I was off the grid for a little bit there. Missed it! Thanks for letting me know, though!
@pagrainfarmer
@pagrainfarmer Год назад
Very interesting video, my friend. I have no experience working on that aspect of farm tractors. That has always been done by my friend Joe. Plus, I have no 55 series tractors on the farm, but assume my White 2-110 would be more similar to the 55 series than my 50 series tractors. Anyways, learned a lot! Thanks, my friend.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Your 2-110 has a lot in common with this rear end. Mostly just a different input shaft coupler. Thanks for watching, Charlie!
@pagrainfarmer
@pagrainfarmer Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yeah, I assumed that was the case.
@jsatre5504
@jsatre5504 Год назад
Hey Chris not sure if you've ever tried this but if possible I pour cold water immediately after I've used the smoke wrench to heat something up. It helps to loosen the the temper since the water cools the metal quickly.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Thanks for the tip!
@aaronkaraszewski2749
@aaronkaraszewski2749 Год назад
Good morning Chris! Well shoot I think I may have missed something, I did not realize there was a seal on the back side of the input shaft. This is the first 55 series I have ever had apart and I don’t remember how the seal looked or if it was even in there. I went back thru pictures but I don’t have any that close up of that area. Maybe you should put some money in the swear jar for me. And now everything is painted!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
It will be in an upcoming video, but early ones didn't have that seal. It tended to be more of a problem on the Wheatland models because the engine sits level and so does the shaft, letting it walk up easier. I wouldn't tear a tractor down to switch, but I'd upgrade while I was in there. That probably helps about zero. 😂
@aaronkaraszewski2749
@aaronkaraszewski2749 Год назад
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ok well it does help because my 1955 is a earlier model so I bet it does not have that seal. I was in there checking and cleaning. I check the back lash on the hyd. Pump drive, and was messing with the lube pump and chain. I think I would have noticed it? Maybe.. anyway Ill hope all is good. Thanks Chris
@petepeeff5807
@petepeeff5807 Год назад
I use an air hammer and dull chisel on those big line nuts and big jic fittings it works really well in tight places where you can't swing a big wrench . Yes it does booger the fittings a little but saves alot of swear words.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
But then how will I put my daughter through college? 😂
@jerryfaulkner6518
@jerryfaulkner6518 Год назад
Does that line where you are wanting to re-route the case drain need to be lower pressure than the case drain?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
It needs to be as close to zero as possible. It will be going in the suction side of the cooler pump, unrestricted, so that should do the trick. I learned this from Brad Maibach, he's been doing it for years.
@chadmyers3377
@chadmyers3377 Год назад
Glad when you were heating that fitting up I seen you were wearing your shoes and not crocs 😂 in hindsight would penetrating oil have worked if you’d applied it weeks ago? Just curious on your thoughts
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
I've seen a lot of debate on the effectiveness of penetrating oil on other channels. If you haven't already seen it, a channel called Project Farm had some great tests of different penetrating oils. Personally I don't use them like I used to. They are good for lubricating the threads and do help in that sense, but I don't think they really get in through the rust like many people think.
@timmelcher6780
@timmelcher6780 Год назад
Get it hot and melt candle wax into it. You'll be surprised at how far down the threads will be wet.
@craigrasnic4178
@craigrasnic4178 Год назад
Another awesome video there sir, I really enjoy all of your videos, very helpful with all the information I need for working on my stuff. You and Ross the Oliver Man both are my favorite. Could you do us a favor and give a shout out to Ross’s channel. Hopefully both of you can reach 100,000 subscribers here soon
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Thanks! Ross and I have some collaborations still in the works. Something tells me he is going to pass me by some day, so I need to grab on to his coattails while I can.
@michaelsheeder148
@michaelsheeder148 Год назад
Chris, I agree why you got it torn down that far that you might as well just open up the rest of it to make sure the seals are there and might as well replace them the seals are getting pretty old. Replacing the seals now will save you time later. Thanks Michael
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
More than once I have thought, that ain't leaking, why mess with it? Now I need to do axle seals on the 1650.
@michaelsheeder148
@michaelsheeder148 Год назад
I've had that same experience in the past. I had a 1986 Ford ranger that the clutch went out I replaced the clutch but I did not replace the throwout bearing two years later, I needed to drop the transmission to replace the throwout bearing.
@scottcollver2675
@scottcollver2675 Год назад
Is it the basically the same transmission in my 1800a I lost low range in it? Will the electrolysis clean rust from inside the tank?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
It has quite a bit in common with the 1800A transmission, but beefed up a lot more. Electrolysis works great for the inside. I plug the bottom of the tank, fill it with the electrolysis solution instead of submerging it in the big tank. I take the sending unit out and out my anode in that hole. I put electrical tape on the anode wherever it might touch the tank so there isn't a direct short, and turn it on. Afterwards I powerwash it the the sending unit hole the best I can. Really cleans them up good.
@joshallen5597
@joshallen5597 Год назад
Good afternoon Chris. A guy just told me about your videos. I have a 1855 I’m having PTO issues with. I’m going to tear into it in a while. Just wondering if you have any advice. Been on the other green my whole life. Not used to this Oliver stuff yet. Though I love the tractor!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
What is it doing, or not doing?
@joshallen5597
@joshallen5597 Год назад
So when you begin to engage pto it will start to spin. But the second you fully engage it stops. It was working great last fall. Never used last winter. It was covered up. This Oliver stuff is all new to me we’ve always had the other green.
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
@@joshallen5597 the valve on the back of the pto unit controls all of the function, and since it starts to turn, I'd say you're getting pressure to the valve. I'd start by checking linkage. Disconnect the rod that goes to the lever, put a small crescent wrench on the lever on the control valve and try turning it on that way. Take the cap off the top of the valve and watch the internal lever and verify it isn't loose or broken. The arm has a roll pin that engages a vertical spool. Sometimes that roll pin gets worn or loose and doesn't move the spool properly. If all of that is working properly, no slop or broken parts, then I would say something is sticking inside the control valve. It can be disassembled and cleaned up, but I currently don't have a video on that. One other thing you can do is verify pressure by putting a gauge in the line that goes to the valve. It's the one that does not go to the reservoir. The pressure should be 180 psi. This works off the same circuit as the brakes, so if they are working properly, you should have good pressure to the pto.
@joshallen5597
@joshallen5597 Год назад
I want to thank you for spreading your knowledge on these tractors. I’m from northern maine and everyone that knew these tractors are in a nursing home or dead. Everyone picks rocks with a 4wd 200 horse tractor or bigger. I’m going to dig into this in a little bit. I ordered clutch discs just in case. Everyone I talked to said it was the friction plates. Thank you again and have a good day!
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
@@joshallen5597 I did have a 1755 that did something similar. It would just try to turn then stop once engaged. It ended up that the snap ring that holds the clutch pack in the drum had popped out, letting the clutch discs come out as well. Why it would turn a little as I engaged it is beyond me. It was only a little bit, maybe the pressure of the piston would put some pressure on a bearing transferring some rotational force until it was fully extended. I got a new snap ring, put it all back together with new seals and it has worked fine ever since.
@matthewschlichting5962
@matthewschlichting5962 Год назад
Were did you get the return line kit on the injectors?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
I got mine from All States Ag Parts. Do a search for RE27786 return kit, you'll find several that sell them.
@MikeJensen-wo7oh
@MikeJensen-wo7oh Год назад
I need a rosebud like the one you're using. Mine doesn't put out near that much fire/heat!
@steveschumacher5470
@steveschumacher5470 Год назад
You want to be aware that your regulators need to be sized accordingly or they wont keep up
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Good tip, Steve.
@MikeJensen-wo7oh
@MikeJensen-wo7oh Год назад
@@steveschumacher5470 Thanks for the tip! I'll look into that.
@ollie-lk5dx
@ollie-lk5dx Год назад
Is the transmission and rear end the same in my 2-105 ?
@ThatOliverGuyChris
@ThatOliverGuyChris Год назад
Almost. The input shaft doesn't use the chain coupler, which makes it better yet. This is a late enough 1855, I had to look up a couple of things in the 2-105 book to get the updated version.
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