Rear Facing, Rear Collision car seat issue 

Thanks for the information! So just to clarify, the strap was extremely tight. I have researched the cocooning idea and agree that some are designed to do this. I don't think it is quite as safe as a rebound bar but that is my personal opinion. What I also find interesting is that car seats in the US are not required to be crash tested to simulate a rear crash. Only front and side. Also the safest vehicle manufacturer (Volvo) on the planet provides anchors for tether compatible seats. Higher end seat manufacturers also have optional or required rebound bars, arguably for added safety. We ended up returning this seat and buying a Clek fllo with a rebound bar and it is a fantastic improvement over the slimfit. Lots of info out there about rebound vs tether vs none. It seems there is movement towards use of rebound or tether over the cocooning option but there needs to be more publicly available research into factually proving which is best overall. Again thank you for your response!

Amber Serra that is the correct way to install car seat. Putting adult weight makes it more secure than tugging without putting severe weight into it. Go to your local sheriff's office and ask them if you're not sure.

We ended up returning this and went with a Clek fllo. Much better fit and better built. Thanks.

It's not safe to have your seat move like that. With a rear impact the child's head can rotate up and hit the headrest. Here is what I did ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-evb6BmaqmyQ.html

Most people are saying this is to cocoon in the case of an accident. I agree that this is a good thing in the case of a frontal collision. However, in the case of a rear collision (Hit at 40mph while stopped at a stop sign) there have been many cases of child head injury or death when the head impacts the seat as the car seat folds up into the cocoon position too quickly. That is why we chose to go with the Clek fllo. It is equipped with a rebound bar which serves its purpose in both frontal and rear collisions.

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Me interesa ver ese video tengo una britax y queda solo anclada al cinturón sientonlanmisma inseguridad de la q muestran en el video

1. I will keep this demonstration video posted because I hope someone sees it, researches the issue as I did, and decides to reject the sub-par "design" of many low quality child seats on the market in the US which could cause serious injury to a child in a rear collision scenario. Please follow the link below. This study, published in the October 2015 issue of the Journal of Traffic Injury Prevention, found that an infant-sized crash-test dummy registered serious head injuries when its rear-facing car seat pitched forward - toward the back of the vehicle - in rear-end crash tests. www.ndtv.com/world-news/study-of-rear-end-crashes-finds-head-injuries-from-rear-facing-child-seats-1238990 2. A car seat needs to be as tight as possible on the anchors. This is why some now have force multiplying pull straps to cinch the child seat deeper into the seat cushions for security. If one were to tether this securely to the front seat rail as seen in a modern Volvo, it should only increase the child's safety in the same manner as a forward facing rear tether setup for older children. US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 213 governs required car seat collision testing in order to be offered for sale in the US Market. Please research this Standard as it contains no requirement for rear collision testing to this day. This statement is straight from Gracos website, "While no rear-impact crash testing is currently required under the US FMVSS 213, Graco® tests our ProtectPlus Engineered™ car seats for rear-impact collisions based on the European Standard Rear-Impact crash pulse." Graco claims that this slimfit seat in the video is indeed tested based on this European standard. They are not required to pass the test, but at least they have performed the test. Would love to see Gracos testing results for this carseat. Maybe I will request it and see what they say. The entire point of this video is to demonstrate one of the car seats we thought would be safe for our child but simple common sense told me this would not be sufficient and caused me to thoroughly research the subject. The conclusion I arrived at is that I will trust the objective test results from companies who build the best car seats and are required to test and pass all of their seats in rear collision scenarios. It was apparently a significant enough issue that Europe deemed it necessary to create the European Standard for Rear-Impact crash pulse Lastly, I certainly hope that any person watching this video will do their own research and make their own decision on whether the demonstration and information I have shared is as you say "False information" or is actually the truth.

@@1776Blue All car seats have weight limits. You do not put the weight of an adult in a car seat this can damage the seat. I did not say you can’t put some weight or apply pressure to tighten the straps but not a grown adult putting all their weight into it.

@@1776Blue That is not true and I would suggest you contact Graco with your questions. There are ways to install a seat without using the weight of an adult. One is called the “inside out trick” also compressing the seat. You absolutely can over tighten the seatbelt or lower latches that can cause damage. Most people think the tighter the better but that is not true. You should have less then once inch of movement at belt path with your non dominant hand with only the force of a hand shake.

@@1776Blue I am currently training to be a CPST. I found a passion for car seat safety when I realized how many people have their car seats installed incorrectly. If you are looking for help I can direct you to a wonderful group on Facebook or to contact the manufacturer of your current car seat and ask to speck to a CPST.

@@1776Blue Oh how fun! The problem with it being to tight is it can break the internal part especially in a accident. I would just tighten the seatbelt or lower latch straps to have less then one inch of movement at belt path. Since you are only using the seat for a doll you should be fine with it over tighten as long as you are never planning on using the seat for a real baby!

That is exactly what we did. Returned this one and bought a Clek Fllo

My wife was kneeling in the seat when I was pulling very hard on the straps. It was certainly as tight as we could get it. We ended up returning it and going with a Clek fllo. It may be the shape of the seat in our SUV that doesn't work well with this design.

@@JAPonds I ran into the same problem with the same carseat! I ended up hooking the back strap to the seat track. So from the top of the carseat straight down to the metal track for the seat in my wife's traverse.

bruizer2011 The seat is not intended to be attached that way. It was not tested that way, and could cause serious injury to your child. If you want a seat that allows and has tested rear tethering, please get a Diono or Peg Perego convertible seat.

The instructions for rear facing installation say to use the included belt designed for the LATCH anchors built into the seat by the manufacturer for this purpose. If used in a seat where there are no LATCH anchors points, then you are supposed to run the vehicle seatbelt through that same location.

@@1776Blue you should reach out to a CPST. This will damage the seat.

Can you explain further? I am not following what you are saying?

You are not supposed to anchor any more on rear facing. The third anchor point is for front facing. That is what he is saying. It’s a weird flaw and it is my concern as well

That’s literally 100% false. Rear facing is absolutely safer in a rear collision. They will be pushed to the back of their seat vs being flung forward as they are forward facing

Front impact tends to be at higher velocity than rear impact thus more fatal or cause for more severe injuries. Your physic logic is wrong starting with your own whiplashed example.

Agreed. There is more likelihood of a brain stem detachment fatality from a rear end collision with the rear facing configuration. I don't think this is the safest bet statistically.

@@tristenobriant6588 a rear end collision with a rear facing car seat is no different than a front end collision with a forward facing car seat. The likelihood of a fatal brain stem detachment is very plausible given the right speeds. Neither way is statistically safer than the other.