REBUTTING a Pro-Gay Documentary About the Bible 

Thank you, Trent! As a Catholic who has SSA and has lived a homosexual lifestyle my entire life… I am so grateful that God sent me to a parish with good priests who taught me the true teachings on this topic of the Catholic Church. Since my conversion to the faith, God has given me an incredible amount of graces to be able to not only see the truth of this, but to understand why I was so blind to it for so long. I obviously live a chaste life now. I’ve never felt more whole as a person since God showed me who he really was and since my surrendering of my own will. I really appreciate your voice on this. Always love hearing your takes! I learn a lot from you.

Rainbow people: "The words 'malakoi' and 'arsenokoitai' don't mean sexual acts!" Also rainbow people: "If two historical male figures are described as 'friends' that means they were a couple."

Trent’s response (2:01) to the appearance of “homosexuality in the Bible” is so anticlimactic. “Who cares?” -Trent Horn

Even if the Bible had never explicitly condemned the exact word homosexual, sex outside marriage is sinful. Since marriage is between a man and a woman, that would make homosexual relations outside marriage therefore imoral

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Shouldn't the fact that none of the early Church seems to think that this modern interpretation is correct, shouldn't it be obvious how this was interpreted?

I believe the translation from Hebrew reads, “To bed a man as you would a woman.” The Bible says numerous times that it is detestable to do so. It’s pretty clear.

I am a Christian who is gay or same sex attracted but I believe in the traditional sexual ethic and believe homosexual sex to be sin. This position is known as being "Side B" and thus I pursue celibacy. Thank you for this video! Its frustrating for me to see people leaving the community of likeminded folks because they do all these mental gymnastics to justify gay sex as permissible. But really the main reason they do is 1 they just want to justify gay sex. And 2, they were hurt by their church communities over their sexuality which while it has merit they just use it as a crutch to justify their behavior.

“The mistranslation that shifted culture.” Yes, because between 33AD and 1946, the culture was more Pro-LGBT compared to 1946-present 😂

Hi to whoever’s reading this I’m fourteen and a catechumen in the Catholic Church with atheist parents, please pray for me as I finish my 2 year conversion this Easter Vigil! But please also pray for my parents that they return to Christs true church I even have a testimony, I wanted to become Jewish about 16 months into my conversion and I almost went through with it but every time I stepped into the synagogue I felt the urge to pray the Jesus Prayer, than I started getting dreams of the church and I knew I had to return, I went to my RCIC director but because I missed 3 lessons I would have to wait until 2025 (that’s not happening anymore) but with the help of the grace of God I got approved to be received this Easter Vigil and I’m so excited, Glory to God!!!

As a catholic for 9 years to present: I struggle with same sex attraction but never act on it because it’s against my catholic faith, God called me to live a chaste life.

Can we just point out that there are parts of the Church that have been continuously Greek-speaking the entire time who have maintained this teaching? We don't have to debate this-we know this. Why are these anti-Christian people trying to pretend that Greek-speaking Christians don't exist? As a Greek-speaking Christian, this whole discussion is so bizarre to me. Thanks for the reasonable take, Trent.

I love it when people say that Jesus didn't condemn homosexuality. He didn't need to. He simply and clearly defined what marriage is and that was enough. There are many things Jesus didn't specifically condemn doesn't mean that He was cool with them.

“If a man lies with a man, as with a woman, it is an abomination” seems pretty clear to me, and doesn’t require the word “homosexual”

"...nor tops nor bottoms..." There's an admittedly tongue in cheek but accurate translation for modern readers.

Such a weird idea that despite having church traditions going back to the first century supposedly no one understood the meaning of words in the bible until some weirdo misinterpreted them fifteen minutes ago.

The lengths people go to want to sin is endless

the sexual revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race Edit: Thank you Trent. You are a big inspiration for me and the grace with which you practice your craft is incredible

Hey Trent, I just want you to know you're the best and a huge inspiration.

Moral of the story? Just because a word didn't exist beforehand, doesn't mean the concept didn't. The word "homosexual" was new in the 20th century, but the concept of it has existed for thousands of years, and the greek word Paul uses was the contemporary word that refered to homoseuxuals. Wrote this comment before watching further than about a minute into the video, I'm sure he mentions this.

Another thing about lesbianism is there is a verse that calls them out in Roman 1:26-27 "even thier women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. Likewise men committed indecent acts with other men

"If your standard for interpreting Biblical interpretation is "it can't be right if it makes me uncomfortable then you are not interpreting the Word of God, you are attempting to re-write it." This is not a position anyone should want to be in.

They twist God's word as it suits them.

Oh gosh, the 1946 take. We’ve all heard this claim before. Thanks for addressing this Trent!

I'm a Latter-day Saint. There's a member of our church who has a podcast and TikTok that parrots out seemingly all the same garbage that you're refuting. Thank you for videos like this.

Leviticus 18:22 “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."" Would they please explain that one away?

As someone with SSA, Im sick and tired of progressive “Christians” telling me acting on them is ok. I have seen how celibacy has brought me closer to God. I used to view my attractions as a curse, but after converting to Catholicism I learned it was a blessing. Not because of the attractions but because its an opportunity to become closer to God, I dont have to worry about romantic relationships with anyone and I can use that time to become closer to Christ. In fact Im seriously discerning joining a Benedictine Monastery or the Franciscan Friars for a life dedicated to Christ.

I hope the Catholic church holds strong against the tidal wave of LGBT propaganda 🙏 I believed some of it too, until I really came close to Christ 🙏✝️

Pointing out that their theories suggest Paul condemns r___ victim to eternal torment is such an important point. Forcing them to choose between those two interpretations will hopefully shut down this kind of logic a bit.

At this point in the degeneration of our society, one does not even need a religious argument against homosexuality. In a couple decades we have gone from tolerance, to parental rights being taken away while their children are prepped for mutilation. The slippery slope and its consequences are real. Homosexuality is something that always needs to be kept at the fringes or the whole of society suffers. The fact that God tries to warn us against it and instructs us how to best protect our families and build a society, well, that just makes me love God all the more. That's Fatherly love right there.

I'm always astonished about how every Trent video will always have dozens of comments from people who despises catholicism in very little time after the video publication. Does those people keep refreshing his channel page every few minutes? They like him more than I do!

im only 2 min in and the part where the camera zooms in on Trent's face and says "who cares" made me laugh so hard I just know this is going to be an awesome video! Thanks for all that you do, Trent and the team!

Don't let them confuse you by making it seem complicated It's actually simple Leviticus 18:22

NT scholar EP Sanders - even though he was not a believer (he called himself a “liberal, modern, secularized Protestant”) - is extremely helpful here. Sanders literally revolutionalized NT (especially Pauline) studies back in the '70's. The following excerpt is from his "Paul: A Very Short Introduction" published by Oxford University Press, pgs. 128ff. “Homosexual activity: Paul was against homosexuality, both active and inactive, male and female. This marks him as Jewish. Since homosexuality in the Graeco-Roman world is not widely understood, I shall first lay the groundwork. [In the Graeco-Roman world] There was no condemnation of sexual relations with a person of the same sex simply because the sameness. Far from homosexual attraction and activity being condemned, in some circles they were positively valued as part of educational and cultural life. In classical Athens, for example, it was thought that a boy or youth should be honorably courted by a man, who should desire to lead him into wisdom and bravery. The man was also expected to desire the boy sexually. The young male body was generally regarded as the greatest beauty in nature, and therefore as highly desirable. If the man was worthy, he inspired in the boy not eros, sexual desire, but philos, love without lust. The boy, motivated by philos, might grant the man’s desire, but preferably intercourse took place only between the thighs, with no penetration. Further, the taboo held that the boy should not enjoy the physical aspect. How often this chaste ideal was met we cannot know, and certainly there were many abuses, which were themselves condemned by pagans. But we note, first, that homosexuality of this sort was, at least sometimes, idealized and favorably evaluated. Even in Rome, where this particular aesthetic theory did not hold sway, it was regarded as normal for an adult male to desire boys. Homosexual activity, like any form of sex, was sometimes satirized, and some seductions were even against the law, but nevertheless there was no general condemnation. This sets Graeco-Romans culture off sharply from Jewish culture. Secondly, we note the reservation about penetration. The general view was that it was shameful for a male to be the passive partner. Even if a boy granted his adult lover the full favor of his youth, he should grow up to take the active role. In classical Athens, for an adult male to be passive was a bar to the exercise of citizenship. Slaves could serve as passive partners, and of course so could women. The Greeks and Romans despised effeminacy in men. It seems that the strength of this taboo weakened in the later Roman period, but it was strong enough in the first century for there to be ridicule of even Julius Caesar for playing the passive role. When Curio quipped that Caesar was ‘every woman's husband and every man’s wife’. The ridicule was in part directed at his general promiscuity, but the real bite comes in the second half: with men Caesar took the woman’s role. One more example: Seneca ridiculed a wealthy man because he kept a handsome slave who was dressed like a woman when he waited at table, but became the man in private. What drew comment was that the master rather than the slave played the passive role in sex. It is a curiosity of human behavior that the active partner, though may have disgraced his passive lover - making him like a slave or woman - shared none of the blame. (Modern society is equally hypocritical about prostitution.) In the Roman world men were expected to be sexually active, and they had little to fear from public opinion, or from the malice of friends and confidants, if they engaged in homosexual activity on the giving rather than the receiving end. We have much less information about female homosexuality. We hear of one woman who shaved her head and who bragged about how many women she could have each day. Her behavior was not applauded, probably because of her aggressive assumption of the male role. Jews, looking at the Gentile world, saw it as full of porneia, sexual sin of all sorts, and homosexuality was a prime case. They condemned it lock, stock, and barrel. This is emphasized in the Bible (for example, Leviticus 18:22) and repeated in subsequent Jewish literature. In the Letter to Aristeas (written by an Egyptian Jew in the second century BCE) we read that most non-Jewish men defile themselves by homosexual intercourse and that ‘whole countries and cities pride themselves upon such vices’ (Letter of Aristeas, 152f.). The Jewish Sibylline Oracle 2:73 contains the prohibition me arsenokoitein, literally ‘do not bugger males’, putting the activity on par with extortion and murder. We note that it is the active role which is condemned. Philo, in a substantial discussion sexual sins, lists homosexuality as next to bestiality in gravity. Making love to boys, pederasty (to paiderastein), is common in Gentile society, and Philo especially complains that men boast not only of the active but also the passive role. There then follows a dull description of the wiles and seductive manner of passive males. He points out that the law, that is, Moses’ law, provides death as the penalty for the male who dresses like a woman; he adds, ‘the lover of such (ho paiderastes) may be assured that he is subject to the same penalty’ (Special Laws 3:37-42) So, when we turn to Paul, we are not surprised that he condemns all homosexual activity, nor that he specifies both the active and the passive partners. Out of an excess of modesty some English translations do not precisely render 1 Corinthians 6:9. The RSV has “sexual perverts” and the NEB “homosexual perversion”. The Jerusalem Bible correctly has “catamites” and “sodomites”. Paul names both the effeminate partner, the malakos, ‘soft’ one, and the active one, the arsenokoitis. Some scholars propose that the words are uncertain as to meaning and thus that perhaps Paul did not really condemn homosexuality. The words, however, are quite clear. ‘Soft’ was a common term for the passive partner, and nothing could be more clear than ‘one who buggers males’ (arsenokoitis). We noted the word in Sibylline Oracle 2:73, and both that passage and Paul’s reflect the terminology of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13: meta arsenos koiten, ‘he who has coitus with a male.” In another passage, Romans 1:26-27, Paul condemns both male and female homosexuality in blanket terms and without making any distinctions. With regard to the source of these passages: Romans 1:18-32 is very close to the Wisdom of Solomon, a Jewish book written in Egypt. Further, Paul’s reference to ‘images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles’ (Rom 1:23) points to an origin in the synagogues of Eqypt. (Birds, animals, and reptiles were idolized in Egypt, not commonly in the rest of the Graeco-Roman world.) 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 is pre-Pauline in origin. The language of the unrighteous not inheriting the kingdom of God and the list of sins which follows point to a traditional Jewish formulation, one perhaps passed on to Paul by the Jewish-Christian community before him, but possibly simply remembered from synagogue sermons. In short, the two condemnations of homosexuality show that he applied to his Gentile converts the standards of Judaism. Naturally he found them wanting: ‘such were some of you’ (1 Cor 6:11). We see here a conflict between the Jewish apostle and his Gentile followers."

Hey, Trent and James White agree on something. 🎉

There are no mistranslations. The Bible is the PERFECT Word of God. The Bible does not change to suit society. What was an abomination before the time of the Lord Jesus is till an abomination today.

Pray for us sinners lord! May our eyes be opened

Hey Trent, I want to apologize for my reply to another comment about how you believe in something unknown to the early church. While that is surely my conviction, it was a silly thing to comment given the agreement we have on this issue. Please forgive me for trying to pick a fight without good reason. Appreciate your work on this and many other topics.

Trent Horn is the Chuck Norris of apologetics and philosophy.

These people think they can come up with a new interpretation to approve of their sin. Its tiresome and old.

You are one of the best at theology Mr Horn, I say that being a Protestant but I hope you do consider me as a brother as I do you

The essence of the video: 1- Malakoi and Arsenakoi can't refer to pederasty/rape/pedophilia because both persons are condemned. And a rape victim is innocent, thus the malakoi condemned by St Paul is consenting to the sex 2- It is not solely ritual pagan prostitution that is being condemned because St Paul in Romans condemns people abandoning women for men and calls this unnatural without mentioning some ritual pagan prostitution. 3- It is not a condemnation of excess because what is being condemned is "exchanging" natural sex for unnatural sex, refered right after as heterosexual sex vs same-sex sex 4- Leviticus not mentioning lesbianism means nothing because it has a male audience. Just like the condemnation of men copulating with their mothers applies to women copulating with their fathers the condemnation of men copulating with men also applies to sexual contact between women. 5- The word for male prostitute is not mentioned in the condemnation of sex between two males in leviticus. Thus in leviticus it isnt about prostitution either 6- The choice isn't between "all gay people go to hell and you need to become straight" and "same-sex sex isn't sinful at all". The orthodox position is celibacy for people unable to do sex with and satisfy sexually/romantically/emotionally a person of the opposite sex. 7- Denying same-sex sex is sinful because of feelings will lead to other things like pornography, polyamory, divorce, no-fault separation and premarital/no-strings-attached sex being seen as non sinful to 17:43 PS: maybe we can turn this into a copypasta?

Evil always tries to justify itself.

They are screening this movie this Sunday at a Methodist Church in my neighborhood and it is actually being sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce. I wish Trent could be there to counter this nonsense.

I'm Anglican, not Catholic, but I agree with you on everything Trent! Homosexual sex and homosexual marriage was condemned in The Bible for very good reasons. It's sad that so many gay people leave Christianity just because they want to act on their thoughts. The temptations are strong, but it's clear that acting on homosexual desires is a choice and things like same sex marriage can very well be avoided.

Hearing this reminds me of the serpent’s strategy to tempt Eve. The serpent asked “Did God really say . . ?” He tried to get Eve to doubt the truthfulness of God’s Word. He wanted Eve to feel that she would be missing out on something “good” by being obedient to God’s instruction.

Its disgusting how theyre trying to rewrite/distort the translations of Jesus’ word to fit their sick narratives

Tell a lie often enough until it's believed. Both the OT and NT condemn same sex acts because it's against God's original plan. People have a tendency to cherry pick specific verses that seem to support their POV then build an entire thesis around them rather than seeing what the ENTIRE word of God says.

Them: "The bible never condemned homosexuality!" Me: "Right, let's assume that, then why was it illegal in Christian, Muslim, and Jewish states for over a thousand years before this '1946' date?"

If people would only put half as much effort into batteling and avoiding their sins as they do into justifying them...

Great video and information Mr. Horn. I appreciate what you do.

Trent, love your content.

This is another example of why we need a Church. We Catholics go by the Church’s teachings instead of everyone interpreting the Bible their own way.

Beautifully done as always, Trent! On “Not knowing how or why sexual orientation arises or changes”. I have always believed that sexual behavior is situational. Our biological and emotional drive is very powerful, and if unable to be fulfilled naturally, will take any other route, all of them disordered. If we put heterosexual people of the same sex on an island, it would get gay there in no time. This “island” may take many forms of course. Emotional, psychological, or physical.

The audacity and mental gymnastics that they had to go through to come to this conclusion is astonishing.

They don't care about the Bible but just to cause division or justify their wrong behaviour (which makes me think they really care). Great vodeo, as always.

Im not religious, i think, but these people trying to change the Bible is just - offensive. My goodness. Im siding with the Catholics. So this is what it feels like.

I have a Catholic friend who is an LGBTQ+ ally, I want to send this to her and see what she thinks. I am very confused how she could be an ally of something that The Bible clearly condemns.

Deuteronomy says men are not to lay with a man as they would a woman and vice versa. Case closed. Not to mention homosexuality goes against human biology. Do we really need to have this conversation? Just to appease the people who can’t get with the program?

These same types of people say the Bible isn’t clear about women preachers. The Bible is clear on both issues. No women preachers and homosexual acts is sin.

I'm a prodistant, and it saddens me to see so many churches of all denominations changing the Bible accepting this nonsense.

Thank you brother. I think God uses these challenges to grow our faith by pushing us to dove deeper for our own understanding through the help of the Holy Spirit.

You are right! No ifs, ands, or buts, the Holy Bible condemns homosexuality, and there is no use pretending otherwise! More than that, studies involving identical twins have shown that if one of them should become gay the other usually does not do likewise (I learned this from one of the foremost experts in genetics, whom I studied under and came to know personally); this would show, if anything, that there is no genetic basis for homosexual proclivity!

Thank you very much for this video. I've heard these arguments before and it's good to know that there's a solid foundation for believing the text.

Thank you for blessing so many with a firm clarity and renewed recognition for our foundation. God bless!

Excellent video. James Martin needs to wake up

Glad you've made a video on this. This movie has made my eyes roll to the back of my skull

ofc the Rabbi tries to convince Christians that the Bible is not against homosexuality, I wonder if he thinks Jews should be allowed to practice homosexuality... its always them

Excellent video!! I do street outreach & hear this objection quite often. Thank you so much for this info & rebuttal to their claims!

You can really see what Paul meant about the darkening of minds when listening to those who want to downplay the sin.

The Bible is only literally true when it suits you, hey Trent. How convenient!

"when your exegesis of scripture amplifies human feelings you will tear the bible part to protect those feelings" 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Excellent analysis, thank you! I would love to hear your analysis of the other film that's making its rounds among protestant churches called A Fish Out Of Water. When my church adopted the open and affirming curriculum it showed this film to the congregation. I was shocked that my church leaders succumbed to its messaging. It caused a big rift in our fellowship with each other. I finally watched it on RU-vid and couldn't believe the hubris of those who created it. God has made himself known by all that is around us. Those who deny what is before their eyes have let their mind go dark. Keep preaching my friend.

And this is the type of content i love. informative, well reaserch adn honest. Thank you Sir for your work. God bless

It is very clear that people that are arguing this type of thing don’t have a relationship with God.

Interesting, so by revising the interpretation to merely encompass pederasty or rape has the unfortunate implication that the text then condemns the victim. I will certainly keep that in mind!

The word Homosexuality wasn't in the original manuscripts. But that doesn't mean the concept wasn't. Just take a look at what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah

She's right in one thing: evils like pederasty were quite common in the ancient world. So common, in fact, that they had words for it. So why did Paul invent a new word for what he was talking about?

I remember watching an awful TED talk years ago where 2 people dressed in Halloween costumes of a priest and nun habit tried to argue that the sin of Sodom was unhospitality instead of homosexual acts. It was my first time encountering that argument, and I remember thinking, "This is ridiculous. TED should be ashamed."

Shouldn't the obvious conflict of interest from these people being gay and trying to justify their sin be enough to invalidate their arguments?

Thank you I've really been enjoying your podcast.

One angle I’ve never seen explored - if the Bible never meant to condemn homosexual acts and we all just misinterpreted what the writers meant, then why has homosexuality been largely illegal in the Jewish and Christian world for 4000 years? I wonder if we can look to non-biblical sources to see how the ancient believers acted and use that to inform our modern interpretation of the Bible.

Interviewees of film: "Oh look, the Bible teaches a morality perfectly in keeping with my own modern-day views!" Good thing people living in Nazi Germany or the antebellum South never did such a thing! Oh, wait...

It seems like these critics want to view everything through the lense of social power dynamics and class struggle 🤔 sounds kinda familiar

Malakoi/Μαλακοί pronounced malaki, the last "i" as in "tea" has as one of its meanings "κίναιδος" which means "passive homosexual". Arsenokoitai/Αρσενοκοίται pronounced as arsenokite the "i" as in "tea" and the last "e" as in "the", comes from two words: Άρσεν = male and κοίτη = bed. Literal translation: "one who beds men" ie a homosexual.

If they are so sure about their truth, then they wouldn’t be trying to copyright strike your video away. Back to watch it again & will send it to others as well. We’ve all tried to excuse our bad behavior at least to ourselves. I know I’ve done this at low points in my Christian walk, but I’m always amazed at people who will take their excuses, lies public like this & being willing to die on their hill of lies & take the world with them. My conscience kept me from behaving in these ways. I do wonder what’s the difference between all of us sinners between these people who actually lie about God’s law & try to take everyone with them into sin.

1st corinthians 11:11 “Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.” Thats pretty self explanatory huh

Fantastic and necessary rebuttal!

Thanks for the upload, Trent! Longtime fan, commenting for the first time. Recently youtube recommended me a video called "Satan's Guide to the Bible" and I'm not sure if it's worth your time, or even an area where you feel confortable debating, but seeing as it has hundreds of thousands of views, maybe is a video that you can comment on. Once again, thanks for your work.Your channel and your family are in my prayers!

Hey Trent, with a lot of Christians falling into paganism and new age, do you think we should start gaining wisdom and knowledge to combat their false beliefs? It may be like a lesser New Atheism movement. There’s just too many new pagans to ignore. Thank you, God bless.

Thank you for your videos. May GOD bless you and your ministry

Thanks for this Trent

So,homosexual gang rape is,poor hospitality? Right, like bank robbery is merely trespassing.

Here because the narrow-minded, hypocrites tried to take it down.

new trent video, we up we up

When I was a Protestant, I remember reading the bible and splinting words to fit my lifestyle. Some Catholics and Protestants are doing the same thing. Deep down, they know what's wrong and they are just trying to convince themselves of the lie.

Those in rebellion against God will find any & every reason to justify their actions & deny scriptural authority over their lives.

As a Protestant, extremely based 💯

Any and every sexual activity outside the bonds of Holy Matrimony will cost us our salvation unless we repent before death. It's that simple.

I’m not a catholic but I love Jesus Christ . This is what we need to be doing under Christ . Not fighting amongst each other but calling out this evil blasphemy in our modern age . Thanks Trent !