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Recharging a camper RV rooftop AC unit with R134 refrigerant. 

Whiskey Throttle William
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I recharged the ancient coleman mach roof top AC unit on my camper with regular old R134 refrigerant you can buy at any auto parts store or Wal mart. So far it is still working. This unit was originally designed for R22 refrigerant.
There are plenty of videos of people recharging camper sealed AC units.
There are a few videos of people recharging a window unit for a house with R134.
However recharging a sealed AC unit on a camper with common cheap R134 automotive refrigerant is a highly controversial topic on google and youtube.
If you google this topic you will find alot of armchair HVAC technicians chiming in. I dont know why you would say it wont work if you never tried it. These people will cite all sorts of data and specs they googled. They make up stuff to sound smart online to impress random people on the internet I guess.
The "experts" say it cant be done.......
I believe I have put the naysayers to rest with this video.
I understand this is not a repair a professional HVAC technician would perform and warranty. Im sure this would void the warranty if you tried it on a new unit. Again mine is 22 years old.
So before throwing your old ac unit in the trash maybe give this a try.
You will need a bullet piercing valve with R134 adapter. They can be purchased on ebay or amazon. You will need to install the valve on the suction side of your AC unit. Plenty of youtube videos on how to do this.
The R134 can I used was a supertech 18oz can with gauge from walmart. Check the refrigerant capacity on your unit. According to google my unit is a 17oz capacity. Most will have a tag on the side of the unit when you remove the cover but mine was sun faded.
With the AC unit running on an 80 F degree day in the sun and my entire 18oz can empty in the unit my gauge was running 30 - 40 psi. The air comming out of my vent was 50 F to 60 F degrees.
I added automotive R134 AC compressor oil to my system... I dont know if thats neccessary, better or worse. I dont know how much should be in there. But I added some oil and so far so good. I figure any oil is better than no oil in the compressor.
If you want to research this topic look up videos on recharging home window units and other portable AC units.
Follow same instructions to recharge a R22 home window unit with R134. Its the same thing.
This channel is very helpful.
/ @jodbronson
If you ever recharged a cars AC you can do this. Its very easy. Honestly the instructions on the can is the same way I did it.
After the can is attached to the valve the unit must be turned on to suck the contents of the can inside. You must turn can upside down and right side up to get all the liquid and gas refrigerant out of the can.
When you are finished take a spray bottle with soapy water and spray around your new valve and the rest of the parts on the AC unit to check for leaks. If you see bubbles you know you have a leak that will need to be repaired.

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@jasonurevig5775
@jasonurevig5775 6 дней назад
Great job. I'm a hvac person and would do a few things different but you have nothing to lose as long as its working. We are told how things have to be done but if you don't try something different you don't learn new things.
@ericnyman7814
@ericnyman7814 6 дней назад
Nice hack. I am considering doing the same thing. I am also considering using propane. After paying the shop 800 dollars to fix the system in my truck and it did not work, i tried propane in the system. It blows ice cubes. been running for two years now. The only problem that i have had is that the condenser freezes up once in a while. I shut it off for 60 seconds and i am back to blowing ice cubes. yes it is dangerous but my truck runs on propane. i have 55 gallons in the back. i did not figure another 6 ounces would hurt anything. The nice thing about propane is my cost to fill the syster was about 75 cents.
@deanchapman4337
@deanchapman4337 Месяц назад
Thanks for getting it going insted of chuckin it in a landfill. I have a new coleman that is three years old that needs to be recharged. Everyone says replace the whole unit....I am getting it recharged by a friend in Hvac business.
@primitivomartinez4887
@primitivomartinez4887 19 дней назад
Thank you, my friend. l have the same problem with my air conditioner.
@Bill79870
@Bill79870 Месяц назад
My house burned down so where living in a camper for a while . thanks for making this video. I'll try this before i put a window a/c in it
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam Месяц назад
Sorry about your situation. Praying everything works out for you!! The AC is still working great for me!!!
@luvdriven540i
@luvdriven540i 24 дня назад
Good job!
@starhopper457
@starhopper457 15 дней назад
Yes, R22 is only for sale in sealed, tight systems. Otherwise, it isn't for sale or use. R134a is the only one available to the public and DIYers. We are told, these units are considered "consumable" and when no longer working are replaced. (I don't know about you but I don't consider a grand - a consumable item.) The only problem I see is that if you didn't put a vacuum on your system to pull out the air, before recharging, that residual air will hamper operation as it is a contaminant of the refrigerant. Best of luck and it would be good to know how long the A/C lasts.
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam 14 дней назад
@@starhopper457 agreed i just dont have a vacuum pump and I figured Id give it a shot and see what happens. I gotta charge my van every year and its ice cold with no vacuum. Used to have an ac machine when i had an auto shop.
@michael3080
@michael3080 Месяц назад
I have old unit. Like that. I’ll keep in mine if my craps out thanks
@kylejowers1
@kylejowers1 Месяц назад
Please do a tutorial. I have a 40 year old rv. That i want to recharge since i am in GA.
@3zq3mh1
@3zq3mh1 Месяц назад
Can we see the inside of that unit? I have the same exact one and mine is just not cooling enough.
@davidachten1162
@davidachten1162 Месяц назад
Yes, I would like to know if it's still running good. I have an old rooftop RV unit. Also, which took R22I ran a screw in a refrigerator line putting the covers back on. If I can fix the leak, I will try adding some 134 like you did. I do not know how to add any oil though.
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam Месяц назад
Still working great !
@ricklarson9524
@ricklarson9524 14 дней назад
R12 or R22 conversion to R134a should take about 80% less than 12 or 22. FYI. I have the same unit x2 trying to get them going
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam 12 дней назад
@@ricklarson9524 could be. This one is still going strong. Had it runnin in 90 degree sun in the middle of a field last weekend. Was a life saver.
@r.lruesch4288
@r.lruesch4288 Месяц назад
so did you have to empty it of any leftover R22 or just added to it?
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam Месяц назад
It was empty when I got it.
@dikhurtz2406
@dikhurtz2406 Месяц назад
Never seen one that is serviceable
@cooperlee66
@cooperlee66 Месяц назад
None are serviceable that i know of. That's what the saddle valve/bullet valve is for so you can tap into the system. I did this to my RV ac.
@rdemarco1956
@rdemarco1956 Месяц назад
Is it still running? I have a safari Trek 2000 class a motorhome. It was 94 degrees today. Had the roof ac running. Just barely cool it off. Might get some freon and see if I can get it colder.
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam Месяц назад
Yes its still working great!
@rdemarco1956
@rdemarco1956 Месяц назад
@@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam awesome it’s always nice to save a grand.
@kraigstrom
@kraigstrom Месяц назад
Thank you for this video. Can you post the details on the saddle valve and pictures of where it was installed? I think I'm going to need to do the same thing thank you for this video. Can you post the details on the saddle valve and pictures of where it was installed? I think I'm going to need to do the same thing on mine. Thank you.
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam Месяц назад
@@kraigstrom dont really have time but if you search recharging a camper AC unit you will find it!
@costapobre9522
@costapobre9522 Месяц назад
You just talked, talked, talked. You didn't SHOW PROCEDURE. HANDS ON. USELESS
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam
@WhiskeyThrottleWilliam Месяц назад
@@costapobre9522 if you cant figure out how to do it from what I said and the description you probably shouldnt touch it.
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