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How do you record sound from a mixing board at a live event? Here are the basics!
More sophisticated live show recording discussion with Mike Stranks: • Sound for Video Sessio...
If you’d like to learn how to make great dialogue audio for your film and video projects, please have a look at my courses at school.learnlightandsound.com
Links to gear discussed and used to shoot this episode:
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Recorders I’ve used and that can record line level from a mixing board (links to B&H, Amazon, or DVeStore):
Zoom H4n Pro (use 1/4” input only): geni.us/Grthw
Zoom H5 (use 1/4” input only): geni.us/JKIkO1o
Zoom H6 (use 1/4” input only): bhpho.to/2wdpR0X
Tascam DR-60DmkII: geni.us/BUyoU
Tascam DR-70D: geni.us/tg9x8Ej
Tascam DR-701D: bhpho.to/2rkSzrI
Zoom F4 (use 1/4” input only): bhpho.to/2Aplb5d
Zoom F8 (use 1/4” input only): bhpho.to/2rsxWKr
Sound Devices MixPre-3: www.dvestore.com/sound-device...
Sound Devices MixPre-6: www.dvestore.com/sound-device...
Sound Devices MixPre-10T: www.dvestore.com/sound-device...
Sound Devices 633: www.dvestore.com/guy-says-gear...
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1/4” to 1/4” TRS Cable
Amazon: geni.us/Ewlj
B&H: bhpho.to/2wajcV4
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XLR Female to 1/4” TRS Cable (XLR connects to mixing board, 1/4” to your recorder)
Amazon: geni.us/NQRo
B&H: bhpho.to/2rmL3wB
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XLR to XLR Cable (do NOT use this cable for Zoom recorders)
Amazon: geni.us/lAcVTbj
B&H: bhpho.to/2JVoA0j
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RCA to 1/4” TS Cable
Amazon: geni.us/0lz2
B&H: bhpho.to/2IjaCIq
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Anker USB A & C Battery Bank
Amazon: geni.us/0Mfe3B6
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Line Isolator/Transformer (need 2 for stereo mixes, one for mono)
B&H: bhpho.to/2rm9Ctj
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Blackmagic design Ursa Mini Pro Cinema Camera - used for the talking head shots in this episode
B&H: bhpho.to/2AKJOcN
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Sigma ART 24-70mm f/2.8 OS Lens (Canon EF Mount)
B&H: bhpho.to/2kjsI2x
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Panasonic GH5 - Used for some of the product shots
Amazon: geni.us/ALBhDk
B&H: bhpho.to/2BcorBk
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Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 OIS Lens - incredibly versatile lens that is on the GH5 most of the time
Amazon: geni.us/ILk8sxj
B&H: bhpho.to/2i6s2gv
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Copyright 2018 by Curtis Judd
Music - MzA by Cary Judd, used with permission
Ethics statement: Some of the links above are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, or other affiliate links.

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Комментарии : 663   
@glynnetolar4423
@glynnetolar4423 6 лет назад
As a sound guy who's had these kinds of requests before, thank you! This was great and covered much of our sides concerns.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Glynne. Been there a few times myself.
@mozinoz_digital
@mozinoz_digital 6 лет назад
Yr absolutely right Chris, the sound guy is doing a huge favour allowing connection to his sound board. Recently filmed a symposium 100 + people, a panel of 5 speakers worn radio mics , plus the host had hand held mic, all synced to the sound board. Vox Pop from the crowd. No way I could have captured pro audio quality from on camera rode mics. So I respectfully asked if I connect an xlr cable from my Sony NXCam (locked off wide), he said sure. Took my long lead & then asked me how the levels were! The video was a winner due to the quality of the multiple voices. Subsequently I’ve been asked to shoot another symposium. My first question was- did you book sound guy too? They said yes! So I’m saving up a big handshake for the sound guy. He made my video look good because it sounded professional! 🤠🎥🎶
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Moz - great example of what happens when you respect the sound engineer. Good work!
@wareproduction8779
@wareproduction8779 5 лет назад
Wow thats awesome good work
@TheMichaelTech
@TheMichaelTech 6 лет назад
Every time I hear audio from your videos a tear rolls out my eye. It's so crisp and clear!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Michael!
@cebeaux_
@cebeaux_ 5 лет назад
Your video(s) have saved me as a videographer! This video especially helped me when it came to recording from the soundboard. Thanks for covering the proper etiquette and items to have to be prepared!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
👍
@kamishimoproductions8587
@kamishimoproductions8587 2 года назад
Thanks so much Curtis for covering this particular live event sound recording. I surely have gained so much from you in regards to filmmaking and audio lessons. I truly appreciate your dedication to helping fellow creators.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
Thank you!
@videotempest7502
@videotempest7502 6 лет назад
Some great advice here! A lot of people don't realize that the sound from a FOH mixing console doesn't equal the kinds of things you hear in concert videos-- I'm glad you touched on that! Always, always, always mic the room!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks, yes, a proper mix with room mics is a topic we'll need to cover in way more depth.
@happytownstudios
@happytownstudios 2 года назад
As always. A great video. But the one thing I wanted to mention is how you were so right to remind us to thank the sound board operator. I took extra time today to do that. And you could tell he felt appreciated. Thanks Curtis.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
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@gcprost
@gcprost 6 лет назад
You are very right. These guys are doing you a huge favor. They often have to create a special mix for your send. I always appreciate when they do this. I always have a back up plan so I will be recording by microphones as well. Sometimes, I will get a problem coming from the board. I don't think less of the audio guy. The show and the live music is their first priority and I wouldn't have it any other way.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
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@kirkdarling4120
@kirkdarling4120 6 лет назад
Another excellent instructional video, Curtis. I needed this about three years ago, but you have certainly nailed all the important points I've learned...I will be recommending this video for others coming up.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Kirk. Sorry on the late arrival. ;-)
@vaidehiarts
@vaidehiarts 4 года назад
You are a veritable sound god, Curtis! As a one man band doing sound and camera, had this challenge recently, and it was a nightmare to get the sound without accessing the board. This helps so much! Thanks a bunch :)
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Thanks so much, Janmejay!
@beatsbyandrew
@beatsbyandrew 6 лет назад
This was a good tutorial and as a live sound engineer I especially appreciate the "social engineering" tips you give videographers. One hugely useful $10 tool for the whole line/mic issue is a Hosa Variable (-10/-20/-30db) XLR Pad. Can save you in a bunch of scenarios. Don't forget to use headphones to check your level as it may appear fine but actually be overmodulated and need to be stepped down, a frequent problem with Zoom I've found.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Andrew, appreciate and completely agree with the tips on the variable pad and monitoring with headphones.
@dogwalk3
@dogwalk3 7 месяцев назад
thanks for the tip before getting a Zoom H5 to record from my mixer at home - i was about to go down a rabbit hole to find this information and you were the first video i clicked. question answered. i appreciate it 🙏
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад
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@BloodShotMovies
@BloodShotMovies 6 лет назад
Great video! I see this question asked so much, it's nice to have a video to point people to. One thing - Many modern soundboards now have a USB out. For example, I shot a live concert this past weekend, and all I had to do was give the soundman a USB stick and he was able to record the board feed directly on that for me. Super easy and convenient.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks! Also very good point on the more modern boards having USB out. We're seeing that on more and more of the digital boards (my Allen & Heath SQ-5 has this). One additional note: Good idea to make sure you're using a fast USB drive. Some of the slower sticks can have trouble keeping up, especially on the boards that put out 96kHz sample rates.
@mystupidtheories6554
@mystupidtheories6554 5 лет назад
Curtis Judd I allowed a performance to record via USB as I was packing up i had left the USB still plugged in The performer pulled the stick out with out confirmation and corrupted their files. USB stick is close to hassle free but still don’t forget respect your sound guy
@BrianSiano
@BrianSiano 6 лет назад
I've covered some live events, and on occasion, I've had to negotiate with the sound guy. This video sums up everything I _thought_ I've learned. I'll probably be running this again when I do my next event. So it's a TERRIFIC resource. Thanks!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Brian, happy mixing!
@michaelgaldamez7058
@michaelgaldamez7058 9 месяцев назад
This video answered all of my questions including ones I didn't know I needed to ask. Thank you so much! You are such a huge help!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 9 месяцев назад
🙏
@JeffRemasPhotography
@JeffRemasPhotography 6 лет назад
Great info as always. Some venues have sound mixers that are union and they get extremely cagey about tapping in and what you are allowed to touch. Great information.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Jeff and good point re: union mixers.
@jessicaw5258
@jessicaw5258 4 года назад
SUBSCRIBED!! Thank you so much for this video. I am a videographer who recently has gotten more live event oppurtunites and yes I am excited for these events but the sound aspect freaked me out. Bad sound equals bad video. Curtis your video was clear and straight to the point. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Thanks! One thing we didn't really cover too much here is that it often still makes sense to put two microphones in the room to capture the sound that way in addition to taking a feed from a mixing board. The mixing board audio can sometimes sound too "dead." Best wishes and happy recording!
@jessicaw5258
@jessicaw5258 4 года назад
@@curtisjudd thank you Curtis!! Will take that in consideration
@mariachiaracolalongo7816
@mariachiaracolalongo7816 6 лет назад
Thanks Curtis, what I was looking for. Over the last year I've learned a lot of things about sound and video and followed your advices.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thank you Maria
@insanejughead
@insanejughead 6 лет назад
Much helpful! So information! Great advices! Thank you for the wonderful video, Curtis! You've made my day by posting about this topic.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks! 👍
@Eli_Mastaine
@Eli_Mastaine 3 года назад
I’m a communication student and I’m Learning more about sound from you than my university’s classes during this covid thing since there are no actual classes going on. Thanks
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
Glad the videos are helping!
@shootcutdeliver
@shootcutdeliver 6 лет назад
Great advise - I was so nice last night to the sound engineer when hooking up my H6 - you taught me something about the 1/4 inch cable that forces the H6 to line level didn’t know that my sound came out really good and I use that type of connector thanks bud
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
👍 Good work!
@OriginalDigitalsage
@OriginalDigitalsage 7 месяцев назад
I haven't done audio production for a long while but this 7.5 minutes did a tremendous job of getting me back up to speed. Nicely done. The ambient crowd audio was a small statement with a lot of oomph to it. I'll be looking for your videos on microphones next. Used to use Shure SM-57s and SM-58s an a Sennheiser mic (I forget the model) on a shock mount a lot. Working on rebuilding my gear from the basics might now. This information was a huge help. Thank you very much! I'll have to work on getting audio from instruments at some point, but have to get the vocals and ambient audio worked out first.
@OriginalDigitalsage
@OriginalDigitalsage 7 месяцев назад
Hopefully you have or are planning drum kit isolation, as you already know drums without baffles can ruin any recording that you plan to remix.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад
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@RustyTube
@RustyTube 6 лет назад
Very good advice, Curtis. I particularly liked the thing about recording the audience separately. I’d probably add that this situation is an example of when using time code would be a good idea, so you can later align the audience recording with the concert (or whatever) recording.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Rusty, yes, timecode could definitely help here.
@cameronhills5578
@cameronhills5578 6 лет назад
Hey Curtis, as always, good advice on your channel. As the sound guy who was often running the board (or desk as we call it in the UK) you hit all the points just right. It's worth knowing ahead of time whether you want to ask for a Mic level or Line level signal from the board. Many cameras can take either, in which case ask and set up for Line level, but some DSLRs can only take Mic level so you need to ask for that. Preparation, preparation....
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
That’s another great point, thanks for that Cameron!
@wasbeen
@wasbeen 6 лет назад
Another Great video. I have learnt some of these things the hard way, this video would have saved me many months, I hope it helps others. I wonder if you could do a part 2? More details on room mic’ing, taking multiple channels, or even multitrack USB out of bigger mixers? Yours are the best RU-vid audio tips I have found so far.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Matt. Great idea, I'll add it to the list!
@SuperEliasTM
@SuperEliasTM 6 лет назад
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO IS DETAILED AND HELPFUL ON HOW TO FILM AUDIO FROM A MIXER! I go to Weddings all the time and I'm tired of not having my audio not be as good and it SHOULD be. I put mics on everyone, but when a girl is wearing a dress I can't put a mic on her since they have no pockets. So this was INSANELY helpful.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks SuperIasTM! 👍
@johngalantini6910
@johngalantini6910 5 лет назад
Really useful video Curtis. Thankfully i seem to have everything i need gear wise, but that was a great point about using 'line' record - I wouldn't have remembered to change that on my tascam!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Thanks John 👍🏻
@mickkollins
@mickkollins 4 года назад
Nice job Curtis THANKS!....lots of great info...yep respect the sound guy first and foremost....In Europe when a band is introduced by name, they ALWAYS point to their sound guy at the FOH board and say..he's the most important member of the band!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Indeed!
@ThroughLensStudios
@ThroughLensStudios 6 лет назад
Curtis's videos are the best- no nonsense!!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks ThroughLens Studios!
@JeseeWalker
@JeseeWalker 5 лет назад
This is such a top notch video! Covered everything I needed to know :)
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Thanks Jesee!
@theoryofstory8227
@theoryofstory8227 5 лет назад
Honestly hands down best audio video ever. Thank you
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Thanks!
@KarlRock
@KarlRock Год назад
Thanks for the tips. Really good video.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
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@SJTWEBPHOTOGRAPHY
@SJTWEBPHOTOGRAPHY 3 года назад
This was exactly what I needed! Thank you for your great content!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
You're most welcome!
@protoman247
@protoman247 6 лет назад
great stuff. I ran audio for a choir concert and recorded individual channels thru a digital mixer just for fun. The recorded audio was clean, but at the same time dead from the lack room mics. now i know why it sounded dead :D
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks, yes, always a surprise the first time.
@kjaan
@kjaan 4 года назад
How can I record from JBL eon pro one speaker with a. Zoom h5?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Is there a line output on the JBL? You’ll use that is so. The cable will need to be 1/4” TRS on the H5 side and either the same or XLR on the JBL side depending on what kind of output jack it has.
@kjaan
@kjaan 4 года назад
@@curtisjudd it has RCA output so I could use that to plug it to zoom h5?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
@@kjaan yes, you'll need a dual RCA to 3.5mm TRS cable.
@kjaan
@kjaan 4 года назад
@@curtisjudd thank you sir
@diegocamachoreyes2403
@diegocamachoreyes2403 6 лет назад
This video and all your advices are saving my life! :D I just accepted a work on an audio department and recording from a Mixing Board is what I do, actually with a Zoom H4N, wish me luck. If I had any doubt I will post it here (btw today it's my official first day, fingers crossed :D)
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Congratulations and happy recording!
@diegocamachoreyes2403
@diegocamachoreyes2403 6 лет назад
Thank you! I already got my gear packed and ready. You are a truly a master for we all who want to make audio for audiovisual productions.
@travelinmax1
@travelinmax1 5 лет назад
This is a Tremendous help!!! Thank you for explaining this in such a simple way!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
You bet, thanks for the feedback!
@invi_carlos
@invi_carlos 5 лет назад
Thank you sir! This is so helpful to me. About to go video my first wedding in one month!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Good luck!
@dimitriskovaios
@dimitriskovaios 4 года назад
It felt like hearing and watching Brian May... Very helpful video, well done!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
I'm flattered. 😀
@lrich24
@lrich24 2 года назад
VERY helpful. Thank you for doing this and making it easy to understand!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
👍
@hosephotographer9630
@hosephotographer9630 Год назад
I've been looking like a video like this for years! Thank you, simplified and detailed, no clickbait like most of the same title, I'm more confident to try this now!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
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@mogosimnorden
@mogosimnorden 6 лет назад
it can be very helpfull to record the sound on a second channel with -10db. if you get clipping during the show you have a backup.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks, good point.
@glynnetolar4423
@glynnetolar4423 6 лет назад
The thing about standards is, there are a lot of them. 2 line level standards can make your day.
@GFFmatt
@GFFmatt 6 лет назад
Always looking to get better at this! Thanks Curtis!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
👍
@anthonygabo
@anthonygabo 6 лет назад
Thanks dude. Your videos are really helpful! I'm a sound student in France :)
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Anthony!
@freddiealonsonido
@freddiealonsonido 6 лет назад
Very important things to consider, hopefully less people will be demanding favors with little time to prepare. I've never considered asking how to reach the sound engineer. The no touching is always important, I've worked with some people that don't enjoy it either but can't keep their hands to themselves. Thanks for the great advice.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Freddie.
@comedy-hypnotist
@comedy-hypnotist 5 месяцев назад
Hi Curtis Really enjoying your videos - thank you. Been using zoom H5 for years to record separate mixer output and XY ambience tracks to then sync with video of live show. Worked well. You mentioned that 1/4 TRS needed to switch H5 into line mode. Nothing in the manual about that and we have always used H5 XLR input and have recorded from mixer both pre and post fade outputs but always careful with levels. In our testing it doesn’t seem to make any difference - have we missed something? Just got Mixpre-6 in an effort to move things forwards with non stage recordings and loving it for its low noise floor. Cheers Simon
@ozzygm3178
@ozzygm3178 4 года назад
Super useful! Thank you for breaking it down for us.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Ozzy!
@58sniper
@58sniper 6 лет назад
Good stuff as always, Curtis! I'm traveling to Europe to record a live event at a conference with an H6. Good to know I'll need to TRS cable.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Good luck Pat!
@mauricioflores7999
@mauricioflores7999 4 года назад
Hi! I’m also using a h6, at 3:08 he mentions something about trs cable that I didn’t quit understood. Does having the 1/4” trs || make xlr cable what I need in this scenario?
@48snapper
@48snapper 6 лет назад
Extremely good advice Curtis, thank you.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
You bet, thanks for the feedback!
@JamieHitt
@JamieHitt 5 лет назад
Heads up: The 1/4" on the H4N is hiZ/instrument level only. The H4N does NOT have a line level option for the combo jacks. You want to use a -50dB attenuator (line level to mic level) and make that connection on the XLR ports. I have had great success with the Shure A15LA Line Adapter, ...which was practically designed for this exact purpose. The mic level/instrument level combo jacks on the H4N and H4N Pro have been a "surprise" problem for many customers, ...but one that is easily solved.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Thanks Jamie, appreciate the extra detail.
@chloenale8965
@chloenale8965 4 года назад
This was incredibly helpful. Thank you!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
👍
@219Films
@219Films 5 лет назад
Thank you very much for putting this video together.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
You bet! 👍🏻
@BundaArsaningsih
@BundaArsaningsih 4 года назад
Thanks. Its so enlightening. Can you explain more why we want line level not mic level? Whats the different?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Line level is a much stronger signal - approximately 40dB. If you feed a line level signal from a mixing board into the mic level input on a recorder, the recorder will end up with a completely distorted recording.
@FamelessWanderer
@FamelessWanderer 5 лет назад
Great stuff sir! This was super helpful.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Thanks!
@ramonlopeznote
@ramonlopeznote 6 лет назад
As always, very nice and instructive.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Ramon.
@richardparrington8636
@richardparrington8636 6 лет назад
Excellent advice Curtis.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Richard.
@diosesplenitud
@diosesplenitud 2 года назад
This was very helpful 👍🏻. Thank you!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
👍
@GILLnBARRY
@GILLnBARRY 4 года назад
Hi Curtis! Really an informative video! I've got a reverse problem. The sound man wants me use an XLR for his soundboard output exclusively. I was wondering if the 1/4-inch input I would need for my new Zoom H5 should be TS, or TRS type? Any help appreciated!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Hi GILLnBARRY, the 1/4" input should be TRS because you want a balanced connection. XLR for output from the board, 1/4" TRS for input into the H5. Best wishes!
@Frank19916
@Frank19916 5 лет назад
wow, this so amazing. Thank you Sir. I'd like to know what kinda Recorder you'd recommend for a beginner like me please
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Hi! I think that depends on what you’re looking to accomplish, production value goals, and budget. On a tight budget, I’d go with the Tascam DR-60DmkII: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TRoIMPHS91U.html
@lolsa123
@lolsa123 2 года назад
Didnt quite get what you wrote about the h5, but I took and ordered myself 1/4 to xlr male and rca to xlr male. also ordered myself 2 -20db XLR Balanced Attenuator Adapter. hopefully that's enough for the mixer I will be taking audio from
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
For most mixers, you will need female XLR to 1/4" TRS.
@damiyrdavis7512
@damiyrdavis7512 4 года назад
Hi , thank you so much for this informative video. Could you help me with this question : for the zoom H series the cord i should be using is a 1/4" to 1/4" trs ?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Yes, 1/4" TRS on the side for the zoom H4,5,6 series and either 1/4" TRS or XLR for the mixer side.
@benjiboy1245
@benjiboy1245 3 года назад
Solid content man. Definitely gonna come back to this in the future. May I ask what your audio setup for this video was?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
Thanks. It's been a long time but if memory serves, this was recorded with a DPA 4017b to a Sound Devices 633 recorder.
@ramiromunoz8994
@ramiromunoz8994 Год назад
Great video! I own a Panasonic S5 and I was wondering if I was able to get the sound from a mixing board with an XLR cable straight to camera if I have the 'Panasonic DMW-XLR1 XLR Microphone Adaptor' on top of my camera? Thank you
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
Yes. Just switch the input to line level.
@Pm-qp6tb
@Pm-qp6tb 3 года назад
Bravo. It’s what I was looking for 😀
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
👍
@ConstantinEckhardt
@ConstantinEckhardt 6 лет назад
For concerts I would recommend to get in touch with the sound engineer ahead so you don't get played against eachother. Most soundboards these days have multitrack recording inbuild or through an usb interface. Multitrack recording would be an additional service for me as a sound engineer, so it can happen that the client tries to get around that cost by asking you. You should get that sorted out before you agree to record an event.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Very good points, thank you Canstantin.
@ConstantinEckhardt
@ConstantinEckhardt 6 лет назад
Thank you for you excellent videos. It's always a pleasure to learn more on audio for cinemato- and videography through your content. Also you simply have to appreciate that you normalize your videos ; )
@BertVulcain
@BertVulcain Год назад
Hi Curtis, I just bought a zoom H4n. I have a male to female XLR cable, and I also bought a 1/4 inch adapter that I can put on the female XLR side (just to have options for sound mixers). In reference to the part where you mentioned that a 1/4 inch connector is needed to force the zoom recorder into Line mode, do you mean a 1/4 inch is needed to plug into the zoom recorder and also the mixer? In short, I'm trying to figure out if I should buy a 1/4 inch to 1/4 inch or if I can get away with my current setup.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
It can be XLR or 1/4” TRS on the mixer side. But on the H4n side, it must be 1/4” TRS. You need an adapter for the male end of your cable to get the audio into your H4n.
@sprec5648
@sprec5648 5 лет назад
many thanks for this wonderful video Why isn't possible to XLR cables to patch to the soundboard with a Zoom H6 ?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Thanks. The H6 requires 1/4" cables to take a line-level feed from the sound board. That is how Zoom made their H series recorders.
@PKFilmsTV
@PKFilmsTV 6 лет назад
I've been waiting for an in depth video on this topic exactly for some time now! This was explained very nicely. Last time I supposedly plugged into a board with an XLR on my Tascam DR-60D MKII I didn't get any audio. It went Tascam > my XLR > into an XLR that the venue said was supposedly plugged into a board, and I didn't get any output when I was on the line setting. Is this normal? What does it mean if I'm getting no audio out when set to "Line" on the DR-60D?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Hi PK Films, hmm, there are a lot of possible factors but if you weren't getting any sound signal at all, could be that the mixer didn't have the routing on the board set correctly.
@robkennedyphotography1766
@robkennedyphotography1766 Год назад
Excellent video Curtis. Very clear and concise. I've recently started to video variety shows for my local Musical Society. I had been using the H1N to record the ambient audio in the theatre, but I'm upgrading now to the H4N Pro. Will I be able to take a line from the sound desk as well as the ambient recording on the H14N? Also, how easy is it to do a mix of Desk and ambient sound? Would this be done in something like Adobe Audition or directly in Premiere Pro? I'm only really dabbling in video right now and I am enjoying it immensely. Thanks again for the tutorial. Rob
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
Yes, at the end of the video I believe we showed how to get the H4n into line level mode by using a 1/4" TRS cable into the inputs. This tells the H4n Pro that the audio is line level. That's the most important thing. I haven't used the H4n in a long time but yes, I believe you can record the built-in stereo mics and the combination inputs at the same time.
@chrisronan
@chrisronan 3 года назад
Hi Curtis - what if you are feeding multiple synthesizers and drum machines and just want to record a jam - mixer being used is a Yamaha mg16xu and suppose I use the two stereo out trs jacks to an H6. Just to record the jam. Ok with it being all mixed together and not as separate tracks. Is it then the stereo out from mixer - two stereo out cables each going into separate input to H6? Using two of the channels on the H6? Thank you for this video, Curtis!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
Hi Chris, That is correct across the board.
@Yaletownagency
@Yaletownagency 6 лет назад
Another Master piece from Curtis Judd
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks!
@EdmondM3
@EdmondM3 6 лет назад
Very helpful video, Thank you Curtis
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thank Edmond
@Ehabmxd
@Ehabmxd 5 лет назад
I'm an artist and I have dynacord audio mixer and microphones and speakers, I always sing with a small band and I always record the sound coming out of the audio mix with a tascam dr60mkii and I film the video by the phone attached in a stand then I sync the audio with the recorded video but right now I'm looking for a faster way, in case I go for a concert, in which I take a video and record by the audio mix via the camera. How can I do that and which equipments and camera should I buy? Do I need to buy a noise isolator or is it possible to take the audio out of the tascam directly to the camera? Or is there a better device that I can buy like the tascam zoom f4 or mix pre. Keeping in mind that I only use one track because I'm taking all the outlines from the mixer
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Hi Ehab, yes, you can send the audio from the DR60DmkII to most cameras. I’m not sure which camera you should buy, but I’ve been happy with my Panasonic GH5.
@GaryStockton
@GaryStockton 6 лет назад
Great tips Curtis. Thanks!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
Thanks Gary!
@urielchicago
@urielchicago 2 года назад
wow just found what i have looking for. thank you a lot
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
You're welcome and happy recording!
@feedingvillages8150
@feedingvillages8150 4 года назад
Great video, Curtis! I have a question about setting the Tascam 60D mkII to line level vs mic level while hooked into a mixer. In recording a speaker event, I noticed that my audio was low when I had it set to line level, but much higher in mic level. As a result, I had to increase the gain on the recorder in line level and decrease the gain in mic level. Which is the preferred method to record? I have a feeling that the gain/levels from the mixer weren't set below where it should have been, and that led to my low level audio. Any thoughts?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Hi Feeding Villages, yes, sounds like the feed coming off of the sound board was running a little lower than usual. I would normally use line level but it sounds almost like the engineer gave you a line level feed with a fader applied to it with maybe 25dB of attenuation. I would probably stay in line level mode and increase the gain. Did you have to go to Hi+?
@notoyriousvisuals
@notoyriousvisuals 3 года назад
What setting do I need to be in on the zoom h4n pro to capture the best audio? Also can I do 1/4 out too 3.5 mm into the recorder?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
Most important thing is to go 1/4” in on the H4n Pro since the audio coming off the board is line level. Most boards do not have a mic level output so best not to use the 3.5mm input.
@martinlebel6380
@martinlebel6380 6 лет назад
When there's a media tent with a PressBox / Broadcast Audio Distribution Amplifier (eg: Veltronic FNB2412). Should I prefer mic level or line level ? Also, looking at this particular model that was on my last event, is it outputting mono or stereo ?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 6 лет назад
I'd generally go with line level since it is starting there. No need to attenuate and then re-amplify. If you used a single cable, definitely mono. If you used 2 cables and they configured it to send left mix on one, right mix on the other, then stereo. You can usually tell because the meters on your recorder will register two different levels for the two channels at least some of the time if it is a stereo mix. Great questions!
@MrGetlowgetlaid
@MrGetlowgetlaid 4 года назад
Hi there wondering if you can help. My friend DJs and wants to record his sets but also the live music into the video rather than use a mic the line output from his Mixer. My camera is Sony A58 but don't know what power settings or mic type it is
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
So you're looking for a camera mic? Best to look up the mic input specs on the manufacturer's site. That should tell you the type of output the mic needs. I would guess a 3.5mm TRS stereo mic input in which case a mic like the RODE VideoMic NTG may be a good option: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c4Pu72J5BRE.html
@TheBlueskyson
@TheBlueskyson 5 лет назад
Thanks Curtis. Question - If i want to record guitar from channel 1 on mixer you show at 02:56 should i take guitar lead out of 'line in' or 'insert' (then straight into my recording device) ?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Hi TheBlueskyson, You could take the main output or if you want just the guitar, you can send the guitar to an aux output and then feed that aux output into your recorder. Good luck!
@HenriT
@HenriT 4 года назад
hi Im noob with mixpre. So the question is I have only 2x rca-2x mono jack cable for mix table recording. So to two channels (left and right) ? Or do I have to buy some 2xrca+trs or xlr cable? Couldnt figure out the answer from manual nor interweb. Thanx
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
2 TRS 1/4" cables should do that job. Best wishes!
@jamtayokuyaken8758
@jamtayokuyaken8758 3 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
You are most welcome!
@Kwaician
@Kwaician 11 месяцев назад
How to you record more than a stereo out from the mix board, more like individual tracks? What would a set up look like to do this?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад
You either need splitter cables with transformer isolators for each mic/instrument OR you need a feed from the mixer for each mic/instrument. Most of the bigger digital mixing boards have multiple outputs and can support this.
@supermariobronsmiranda6735
@supermariobronsmiranda6735 4 года назад
Thanx for the video. Now with these tascams I would be getting RAW audio files right? Or is that an option on the tascam??
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Hi Mario, yes, you would get wav files recorded at 48kHz, 24-bit. It isn't exactly the same as raw video footage, but it is high quality audio.
@RJManeri1
@RJManeri1 2 года назад
silly question but can i record into my tascam 8 track recorder from pa to record my home practice sessions? It sounds amazing in my headphones but not as well without them.I want that quality sound.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
Sure, you'll just need to workout what outputs you have available from your PA system and then get the right cables to get them into your Tascam.
@TheFirstMillion
@TheFirstMillion Месяц назад
Will I have ground loop (buzz) if I power my recorder with batteries? I'm recording with zoom H1n
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Месяц назад
Possibly. Best to bring an isolator if you can.
@mosaic1977
@mosaic1977 Год назад
I'm going to be recording a live theatre performance, will the Tascam dr-40x be sufficient enough? If not what would you suggest instead? Thank you!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
Haven’t used the 40x but should work in theory.
@focusimages5955
@focusimages5955 2 года назад
Hi, thanks again Curtis for this very informative video :I do weddings and I use a zoom F6: how would I connect this? Do I chose “line in” in the menu? And If I want the speeches only, would it be a good idea to use a splitter (with direct and isolated outputs) to get the signal directly into my recorder?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
Yes, line level for the input. You’ll need a sub mix from the mixer which only includes the speech.
@pjsaysell6149
@pjsaysell6149 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this, gave me a lot to think about! I've started filming events using a multi-cam setup (Blackmagic Studio 4K Pro cameras and an ATEM Mini switcher). Would I take a line out of my recorded and into the ATEM Mini to get it synced up, or is there a better suggestions? Thank you!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
Yes, and then use the ATEM's sync offset feature to get the audio in sync with the video.
@johndvorak5198
@johndvorak5198 4 года назад
so i have a 8 channel powered mixer for my band and it has rca tape in and out. how would i go about recording that. should i use a converter or rca to 1/4'' and then that into an interface-protools?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
That would work. Balanced outputs might be better if you find the RCA outs have any hum or buzz in them.
@ianbedwell6031
@ianbedwell6031 2 года назад
What settings do I need through the Zoom H5 to record just the music directly from the sound board? All I want to do is record the music clearly and nothing else. Is there any settings through the zoom I need to change specifically?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 2 года назад
You need the mix engineer to give you a custom mix that only includes the music. Then follow exactly what we covered in this video.
@CreativeMediaSagar
@CreativeMediaSagar 5 лет назад
Hi, Can i record audio from mixing board to my Panasonic AG AC90 Camera? and how it can be possible because i have no other recorders like Zoom H6 etc
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Yes, just need to change the XLR inputs to line level on your camera.
@JoelAdrianFilms
@JoelAdrianFilms 5 лет назад
Hey CJ, could a passive DI box work in place of the isolating transformer box to eliminate buzz/hum that I sometimes get when recording speeches and toasts?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
Hi Joel, possibly, if the issue is a ground loop, then yes, most passive DI boxes have a ground lift which will solve the problem. But there are other potential issues as well.
@rcboals
@rcboals Год назад
Great video thank you. I want to record my vocals and my guitar from my small Mackie Pro FX6V3 board to a Zoom H4n Pro. Should I use a -20db PAD attenuator to the input jacks on the Zoom? I was told it will help keep my recording from being distorted.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd Год назад
Should just need 1/4" on the input of the H4n Pro to force it to line level mode. As long as you don't clip on the Mackie, you should be fine.
@rcboals
@rcboals Год назад
@@curtisjudd Thank you, I appreciate your reply.
@martinalonsoburgosolivares6957
Great video, really helpful! One question. When using an extra mic to get some of the room sounds. Won't there be any timing issues between the mixer recording and the mics recording?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 5 лет назад
With analog mixers and good digital mixers, there should not be enough latency to cause any issues.
@marcusfrombespokeaudio5372
@marcusfrombespokeaudio5372 3 года назад
Are you referring to the delay as a result of the speed of sound? If so, then absolutely! We end up with about ~1ms of delay per foot that sound has to travel (depending on air temp, relation to sea level etc). So if you're 100' back from the stage at a show, and you mount a mic beside your camera, that mic will hear the sound ~100ms AFTER the Mixing Desk-->Recorder-->Camera hears it. Is it ideal? No. But you get room sound and a sense of 'Live'. This can be mitigated in Post with free VST plugins from companies like Voxengo in your DAW of choice.
@Toblo101
@Toblo101 4 года назад
Thanks for the help Curtis! I plan on recording a live event using my Zoom H6 - assuming it is Stereo rather than Mono, when you say 2 cables are needed, would I be plugging 1 TRS into the left side and 1 TRS into the right side of the H6 recorder? And could I also record out of the connected microphone on the top to get the audience noise or is that impossible? Thanks!
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Hi Brennon, I believe that is possible with the H6 though it’s been a long time since I used the H6 so I don’t remember the settings. But I suspect the REC menu is key.
@alwil89
@alwil89 4 года назад
Hi, Curtis. Thank you for this video. I hope you're still taking questions for it. Just to confirm, with a Zoom h5, I'll need a1/4 TRS for the output from the mixer and an XLR on the other end for the recorder (input)? Or do both ends need to be 1/4 TRS? Also, last time I recorded from a mixer, I used batteries to power the h5 but there was still buzz throughout the recording. Would the isolator shown in the video fix that or is that only for when using plug-ins for battery power? Perhaps I used the incorrect cord? I can't recall if I used an xlr cable (on both ends) or used a 1/4 TRS for the output and xlr for the input...
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Hi, you’ll need the H5 end of the cable to be 1/4” TRS or else the H5 will clip. An isolator might help in that situation. Best wishes!
@DeeptangshuPaulofficial
@DeeptangshuPaulofficial 3 года назад
I have a concert coming up at home with 2 instruments and one vocals. I need to stems for the concert so that i can mix tracks individually. is that possible?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
Depends on the whether the mixing board has the routing flexibility and enough outputs. And whether your recorder has enough inputs. Any details on the mixing board and recorder?
@dipak_mandlik
@dipak_mandlik 3 года назад
Hey it can works with zoom H1N ?? Can you suggest please which cable do I use. ?
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 3 года назад
Yes. A dual RCA to 3.5mm TRS cable should do the job.
@djmeztisoul
@djmeztisoul 4 года назад
Superb video,Curtis! I have a question. I'd like to record from my mixer to the Zoom H5. The output I want to use from the mixer is rca unbalanced (tape out). Is it possible to use an rca male to ts male? I'm not sure if the Zoom H5 will accept a TS unbalanced connector. Thank you for your time.
@curtisjudd
@curtisjudd 4 года назад
Hi, it should work, in theory. Will need to test to confirm.