Recording Sound onto a Laserdisc - Is this possible?

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@bendingunit01 9 лет назад

that truly is multimedia

@DoowiDoowi 8 лет назад

+Bending Unit 010110 This guy!

@SammeLagom 7 лет назад

Oh yes haha

@manuellujan666 9 лет назад

I'm subscribing to anyone who turns a Laserdisc into a Record.

@databits 9 лет назад

Manuel Lujan I appreciate it Manuel.

@roybo1930 9 лет назад

+Manuel Lujan So Am I!!! I Record on junk 78s that I painted with automotive paint! Works Very well, Using My Roy Ola Label!

@lucaas1307 7 лет назад

Same here :)

@jcb0249 7 лет назад

That works?!?! Well, that's my one thing* for today. *"You learn something new every day"

@JBearInIndiana 7 лет назад

Yes but it is really difficult to turn a record into a laserdisc. (Sorry, I just had to say it,)

@Tomsonic41 6 лет назад

There is some interference when you get to the 'grooved' area of the laserdisc, but I'm amazed that there's still a recognisable picture and you can see what's going on! I too expected the grooves to completely ruin the picture...

@PascalGienger 8 лет назад

The sound is nuts because it cannot decode the PCM data any more, if it is a PAL disc you are out of luck but an NTSC disc has also analog audio on it (encoded in the FM modulated picture - can be true analog audio, or one channel audio comments and the other channel AC3 modulated DD 5.1) so there you will hear sound but with a crackling noise like an audio record :D The picture is resistent because it is purely FM coded. So all the minor errors due to your groove (which is 50 times thicker than the pits, so the difference between "pit" and "no pit" is still large enough for the laser pickup to detect, as you only scratched the groove in the laquer surface and not into the pit layer) and the "crackling" errors on the video just do not harm - it is just like distortions of the FM signal which make it not impossible to extract the video signal out of it. It destroys the digital sound though as it has no checksums and hence the damage is much bigger.

@brietman_ 8 лет назад

+Pascal ‘Le Bakala’ Gienger That's my line :). If know the technique it's logical that the sound is ruined. But the video give a excellent view of the damage that's really done to the disc.

@romangodofvoodoo 8 лет назад

You make zero sense.

@hakemon 8 лет назад

+romangodofvoodoo Are you talking about Pascal? Cause he made perfect sense.

@yojoehojo4291 8 лет назад

+Pascal “Le Bakala” Gienger THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A UNIQUE ALBUM, DON'T YOU THINK? "IT'S CALLED LAZERVINYL, TO HEAR A SET OF TRACKS YOU PUT IT INTO A LAZERDISC PLAYER. HOWEVER, TO HEAR ANOTHER SET OF TRACKS YOU PUT IT INTO A TURNTABLE!".

@hakemon 8 лет назад

Cartridge Head Based on your spelling, it would appear that you probably flunked school. However, Pascal actually has an education. So please kindly go away. Thanks.

@jimkata77 8 лет назад

Wow, that actually sounds pretty good and I to am impressed that the player was still able to play the video through the grooves you cut into the disk.

@Tangobaldy 8 лет назад

/sounds better than the cd. Loss of quality and added hiss but it sounds so smooth

@databits 8 лет назад

+Tangobaldy - Thanks for watching!

@Trance88 9 лет назад

Wow! The recording actually sounds pretty impressive! Very cool.

@databits 9 лет назад

Trance88 Thanks for watching!

@JackOfAllTrades2022 10 лет назад

Loved it... never imagined that it would still play..

@databits 10 лет назад

blackjack6934 Thanks!

@EposVox 8 лет назад

Well that's pretty crazy!

@MrJoeybabe25 8 лет назад

Ridiculous, but lots of fun! Thanks for doing this. Keep 'em coming!

@GraveUypo 7 лет назад

i can't believe it still played video after that. that's awesome.

@databits 7 лет назад

Thank you!

@BlueParadoxical 10 лет назад

Sounds like you had great results with this one! Very nice choice of music, too. Excellent top-notch jazz to complement your craftsmanship!

@databits 10 лет назад

BlueParadoxical Thank you very much!

@kylehazachode 10 лет назад

The video is still rendering through youtube. I'll make sure I'll watch it later at work. Did you know Laserdisc was the only optical disc format to offer analog audio? Yes it does have the ability to offer digital surround, but the default left and right tracks were for analog audio only. Older laserdiscs (pre-surround sound era) as well as almost all music video discs EPs were presented with analog audio.

@databits 10 лет назад

Video should be ready now George Moore, and yes, the audio system was AFM with CX noise reduction until digital audio hit the scene.

@THEREV468 5 лет назад

They also made something where it’s basically a movie being played off a vinyl disc, video and audio are played with a stylus, pretty cool stuff

@kaunomedis7926 9 лет назад

Try to use some lubricant. All metal mechanists use lube when cutting- its reduces "chatter" and wear of cutting instrument.

@rich1051414 7 лет назад

The problem is when the crystal structure of the media has an audible tone.

@carsonkundolf3448 7 лет назад

It doesn't sound half bad really

@cukedaddy 8 лет назад

There's a video where someone cut a record on a torilla...NUTS!

@databits 8 лет назад

+Mark Gray - it is nuts! but they used a laser to cut it. my cutter would tear it to shreds!

@samnoneofyourbisnus2543 8 лет назад

+databits could you replace the head on the record cutter with a laser? there reasonably cheep for an infrared laser (well over 200 bucks but still it not bad)

@PatrickBaptist 8 лет назад

+Mark Gray Yeah it's in my recommended videos on the side, I'm going to check that out.

@cukedaddy 8 лет назад

+Patrick TheBaptist it's pretty cool... It actually works

@PatrickBaptist 8 лет назад

Mark Gray Yeah I saw, pretty funny.

@lutello3012 8 лет назад

Did you try switching to analog sound?

@databits 8 лет назад

+Lu Tello - no, for the sake of keeping the video short, I didn't

@lutello3012 8 лет назад

+databits Probably would have worked!

@eddytennisman08 8 лет назад

+databits I second +Lu Tello 's opinion. At least try it on your own time and at least tell us if it worked please! :D

@samuelfellows6923 5 лет назад

Looked like a rock concert with a full orchestra - instrumental infills? 🤔

@nein6405 8 лет назад

I love old technology, and I love this video. This is one of the specific songs that I played in our schools band too!

@databits 8 лет назад

+Nein - thanks for the comments!

@wii1245 9 лет назад

Great job! What a way to reuse something that is already obsolete and turning into something wonderful ,

@databits 9 лет назад

wii1245 Thanks for your comment!

@referencetheater1742 9 лет назад

Obsolete?! Are you sure? Ahahahah It has much more potential than Vinyl, and if Vynil was reborn this will too in a near future.

@wii1245 8 лет назад

+Reference Theater laserdiscs weren't popular due to its size and such. I would to see him cutting a record on a, ahem, "Dragon's Lair" laserdisc.

@wii1245 7 лет назад

Do you have a hatred for "Dragon's Lair"?

@ThomasGrillo 8 лет назад

An amazing experiment. The down side is, you might have been able to sell that very disc for quite a bit. The reason there was audio artifact in the cut recording, is the laser disc is made of polycarbonate, which is much harder than vinyl. This will wear out your cutting head's needle in fairly short order, unfortunately. You did solve a mystery for me, though. Thanks for sharing. :)

@databits 8 лет назад

+ThomasGrillo - glad I could solve the mystery for you!

@Evan420 8 лет назад

this is so satisfying for some reason

@RollyPraise 7 лет назад

I think, maybe I am completely wrong, but if you warm up the plastic it will cut better. the LP are the softer plastic.

@renegonzalez6755 4 года назад

Amazing. I love mixing vintage technology with newer technology myself (recording video onto compact audio cassettes and listening to mp3 files which were recorded onto 1.44mb floppy disks via the elusive 2001 era FD32 32mb format through my OTG connected android smartphone. I have noticed that laserdisc players can play very scratched discs and seem a hair more robust than DVD. I own 3 times more CED Selectavision video disks than laserdiscs at the moment. I own one laserdisc with disc-rot (Johnny Mnemonic) out of my collection of ten laserdiscs. I love the current surge in availability and lowered prices on rare vintage technology. I revently purchased a JVC SR-VDA300US PRO-HD Mastering D-VHS machine which creates password encrypted D-VHS recordings. This machine cost me $400 and originally cost over $6,000 when first sold to the Warner Brothers broadcasting stations for secure screening applications. Your project seems like a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing.

@AJSSPACEPLACE 9 лет назад

Thats really cool. You turned an outdated didgital format into a still relivent anolog format.

@airthrow 10 лет назад

Found your channel from the FB group. Awesome video, creative and fun!

@databits 10 лет назад

airthrow Thank you! Appreciate your support!

@ExtremeMetal 7 лет назад

Perhaps lubing the laserdisc will reduce friction and stop the squealing

@rick_terscale1111 6 лет назад

thats what I thought .... if it works for women it must work for laser discs!!

@zachogilman7397 9 лет назад

And It worked! To answer your question. Your CD did well and like the music too

@swifty1969 9 лет назад

first of all, this was a VERY interesting experiment and I LOL'ed at your Micheal Bolton comment.

@QUIZFILTER 7 лет назад

Wow that was awesome!!... I love inventive thinking & experimentation like this. You're definitely one of the definitions of mad scientist as far as I'm concerned. So cool & thanks for sharing!!

@databits 7 лет назад

Thanks for your comments! I feel like a regular "doc brown" sometimes!

@AlTheEngineer 8 лет назад

Crazy! Great music by the way! Absolutely love it.

@databits 8 лет назад

+AlTheEngineer - Hey! Thanks for your comments!

@AlTheEngineer 8 лет назад

+databits You're very welcome, I enjoy your videos! I've been wanting to get into records and record players myself, and your videos are very helpful!

@databits 8 лет назад

+AlTheEngineer - glad to be of help

@Mr_Meowingtons 9 лет назад

would adding a light oil help with cutting? and save on the cutting head?

@databits 9 лет назад

Matt K Possibly!

@MisterTalkingMachine 9 лет назад

Stunning, this is performing better than I expected. Also, the music is very nice. Tell me, have you tried this one on your Grafonola?

@databits 9 лет назад

MisterTalkingMachine I have not tried it on the Grafonola. Would be a good idea for a new video though!

@MisterTalkingMachine 9 лет назад

databits Looking forward to it, I do believe it will turn out well, since the disk plastic is likely harder than the food plate. Also suspect that since the Grafonola's reproducer turns only vibrations that go side to side into sound, it might sound clearer, of course, with the normal distortion of it's mechanical nature.

@NeilVanceNeilVance 8 лет назад

Love your video man well done! .... Vintage Analogue technology eat's future digital tech for breakfast!

@databits 8 лет назад

Thank you Neil, I appreciate the compliment!

@HarmonyMan 5 лет назад

And! The laser video still looks better than a VHS video.

@MATIOSAR45 8 лет назад

Hey, i guess, this noiswe is caused by the weight put one the needle while playing the "analog" record. What do you think? Oh, maybe not enough weight...

@Youthtramp 7 лет назад

I would know it too !!

@WammyGiveaway 9 лет назад

That is incredible! How is it possible that a Laserdisc can turn into a regular record player without losing the picture? In a strange way, it reminds me of the RCA CEDs. There could definitely be an invention out of this.

@professionalhater2809 3 года назад

Would you do this for personal music? Say I wanted my music on a laserdisc I have to do this to as well? If so how much would you charge?

@joohop 9 лет назад

try washing the disk with warm soapy water after you've cut it then dry it off and then apply a fine coat of baby oil then wipe it round it should improve the playback quite a bit

@BlueAcid9 7 лет назад

+databits 1) Does turning up the volume change how load the music will be recorded to the record during cutting? 2) Can a record player work as a recorder it you change the stylist? 3) What is that hissing/sawing noise during playback? 4) Why did one song take up so much space on the disc? Shouldn't a record that size hold several songs on each side?

@AnOfficialAndrewFloyd 7 лет назад

You should get some sort of vacuum attachment for that cutter. How It's Made showed one such master cutter.

@rick_terscale1111 6 лет назад

Analog and digital on the one disc... cool!!!!!

@AMDRADEONRUBY 8 лет назад

LOL the HD DVD player :P and nice video!

@databits 8 лет назад

+AMDRADEONRUBY - Thank ye

@cessnaace 2 года назад

I've posted this video in the Forums at The LaserDisc Database.

@stonent 9 лет назад

Probably the differences between record plastic (vinyl) and laserdisc (polycarbonate) causing the squeaking. Two purpose made plastics, but still worth giving it a try!

@chuheihkg 5 лет назад

Although bit old, how to obtain a 12-inch recorder like yours?

@Murdoch493 8 лет назад

I think I heard the Ambassadors of Swing when I was younger. Where do they normally play?

@databits 8 лет назад

Around the St. Louis area.

@derekroberts6654 9 лет назад

so on a laser disc (and i assume on a DVD as well) the first layer is the sudio and the second layer is the video.

@Roninkinx Год назад

That actually is amazing!

@redneckpyromania6965 6 лет назад

You should try cutting a delrin disc it is a rather malleable plastic that is often used for machining parts out of plastic

@dave631bnetzero 8 лет назад

Hay, that disc is warped. it will play badly. But if you put some weight on it it might flatten and play. Amazing it plays at all Very nice

@bwware 8 лет назад

I really enjoyed this! Thank you!

@5argetech56 6 лет назад

Sir, you are a true Mad Scientist............Genius.

@databits 6 лет назад

Thank you! I'm off my rocker! Muhahaha!!

@lizichell2 5 лет назад

Its surprising good quality

@markdam 6 лет назад

And how are you finding a center with the small spindle hole

@Surannhealz 9 лет назад

I'm impressed!

@SO_DIGITAL 9 лет назад

Ever tried a Silvatone Aluminium disc?

@obamayomama8291 7 лет назад

Wow that is good! The record doesn't sound bad really!

@databits 7 лет назад

Thank you Andre.

@obamayomama8291 7 лет назад

databits Oh my god DataBits actually replied to my comment!

@kristiansvalland4595 8 лет назад

and another little tidbit, the video is actually analog, which is why it's still able to show it's information... the audio on the other hand is completely digital, and once you put those groves in, it was destroyed... those artifacts in the image you saw at the beginning could be fixed just by cleaning the scratches off the disc.

@stephg7422 10 лет назад

It's a wonder that it still plays both formats. But did the audio on the video still work? I don't know how those laser discs work but I've seen them around at some record stores.

@databits 10 лет назад

***** The digital audio did not work. I didn't check the analog audio.

@JaredConnell 9 лет назад

Why did,t you try to play the audio at the beginning? You start playing the audio only once you start getting to the later sections on the disc and the video starts messing up so we don't know if it was working at the beginning or not. But it is amazing that you can use it in a laserdisc player at all even if the sound doesn't work. Cool video!

@databits 9 лет назад

Jared Connell Thanks!

@databits 9 лет назад

The beginning of a laserdisc is at the center of the disc. You would have seen no effect on the video or audio had I started there.

@goodsquidjapan 10 лет назад

Cool experiment! made my day.

@databits 10 лет назад

Good Squid - Your comment made my day! Thanks!

@bigdogthehedgehog5906 5 лет назад

Can you think of turning a vinyl into a Laserdisc? Or maybe etching Picture onto a Laserdisc with a rolling process?

@EthicRadioArchiveReels 5 лет назад

Omg this is amazing very fascinating

@Tomorops 8 лет назад

That's incredible!

@databits 8 лет назад

+Troutlaw - thanks!

@Oryaw 9 лет назад

Someone should send one of these to Mark Bussler from Classic Game Room. He loves laserdisc.

@databits 9 лет назад

+Pepsi Man - How many does he need? Haha.

@Oryaw 9 лет назад

+databits As many as one man could possibly obtain. He's probably the king of laserdisc.

@stevegallagher1690 9 лет назад

I've recorded onto a cd without elec., using a 1926 gramophone (vivatonal). got to get back to that! what if you put some oil, just during the recording process? or, a strong light bulb,like they used in the original wax recording studios?

@bobskie321 9 лет назад

The video is still playable but no sound (10:41) which means that in extreme condition analog (video) is more robust than digital (audio). Maybe you can hear the sound if you switch to analog audio (NTSC Laser Disc have both digital and analog audio at the same time). No wonder on DTV few stations are still using the VHF Low band due to impulse noise.

@MrRom92DAW 9 лет назад

Awesome experiment. the digital tracks are finicky as it is but I bet the analog tracks would have produced something much more recognizable.

@databits 9 лет назад

MrRom92DAW This is very likely.

@SO_DIGITAL 9 лет назад

I enjoyed that. Thanks

@gregman77 8 лет назад

The tune is excellent. Is it possible for you to upload it or to tell us where to buy it? (I tried to find it online).

@databits 8 лет назад

+bananov - contact my dad, Larry Charpiot at lawrence.charpiot@att.net to order a copy on CD.

@MrXavierRose 8 лет назад

What was on that video disc? LOL kinda looked like Live Aid

@The_Laser_Channel 10 лет назад

I know you have tried to cut a record on a CD, but did you try to play the CD afterwards like you did this laserdisc?

@databits 10 лет назад

DvdXploitr Yes, I did that in my video here: My Restored Montgomery Ward Airline Record Cutter

@MindmirrorsBlog 8 лет назад

I could not find the album "Third time's the charm" of the ambassadors of swing on the internet, what was the song name you've cut on the disc exactly?

@databits 8 лет назад

My dad has extra copies of his band's CD. They are $13 each shipped. Let me know if you'd like to purchase a copy.

@databits 8 лет назад

Moondance

@MindmirrorsBlog 8 лет назад

thanks a lot man :D

@spiff2268 8 лет назад

Excellent video. I would've never thought that would work. Only bad thing is you ruined a laserdisc which is unforgivable!

@candidshadowcollections6670 8 лет назад

+spiff2268 meh, that disc was good as dead anyways

@AceOfSevens 9 лет назад

Were you trying to use the analog audio on the laserdisc or the digital? I suspect analog audio would work.

@databits 9 лет назад

AceOfSevens Digital.

@borgship2304 8 лет назад

CAN I EXPLAIN to viewers of this video that the''cobweb'' dust you see is not from old equipment. it is the plastic when the 78 rpm is being cut off the laser disc surface.

@tristanpina2666 7 лет назад

I like how it makes cotton candy in the middle of the laser disc.

@justinholmes5614 8 лет назад

What was this machine designed to cut onto ? Acetate perhaps ?

@databits 8 лет назад

+Justin Holmes - yes

@1marcelfilms 9 лет назад

what are the differences between video disc and laserdisc?

@IIGrayfoxII 9 лет назад

‍1marcelfilms Laser disc is better than VCD DVD succeeded LaserDisc(LD) Laser Disc Resolution: NTSC:425 TV Lines PAL: 440 TV Lines Aspect Ratio: NTSC: 4:3 PAL/SECAM: 4:3 Framerate: NTSC: 29.97 or 23.976 frames per second PAL/SECAM: 25 frames per second VCD Resolution: NTSC: 352x240 PAL/SECAM: 352x288 Aspect Ratio: NTSC: 4:3 PAL/SECAM: 4:3 Framerate: NTSC: 29.97 or 23.976 frames per second PAL/SECAM: 25 frames per second Bitrate: 1,150 kilobits per second Rate Control: constant bitrate

@alexissmith9336 8 лет назад

wow databits i like that cuttung video can you make a video of the pioneer dvd laserdisc player

@mrmagnetoscope 8 лет назад

Cool! Is it possible to record ultrasounds on a vinyl record?

@YourMom-xc2ei 8 лет назад

Do you mean video of an ultrasound?

@mrmagnetoscope 8 лет назад

+Your Mom High frequency sound

@ddorfpunk 8 лет назад

Depends on you cutter and player. But technically, yes.

@gabrielcortes4965 8 лет назад

buen experimento..buen video pero estas lucas y bien chalado..te felicito..congratulations nice work .....

@databits 8 лет назад

Thank you!

@Bighaus1234 7 лет назад

So that's your dad band? If so he is very talented. Also Keep up the good work!

@databits 7 лет назад

thank you for watching!

@mendyc158 9 лет назад

I can't find your model of laser disc

@aadam-kz5my 9 лет назад

What is the artist you played?

@larryinc64 8 лет назад

I wonder if 3D printing blank discs would be a valid option

@firecrow7973 8 лет назад

+larryinc64 i think a press would be easier to make

@candidshadowcollections6670 8 лет назад

+larryinc64 you would not really get decent sound out of 3D printed material, and spend an abomination making it

@jjwarner9419 8 лет назад

+candidshadow Don't know about that. I've used 3D printers before, you could definitely set the quality high enough to get a decent playable record. They're accurate to within one nanometer, the length your fingernail grows in a second. It would likely take multiple days to print a playable record though, with the needed quality.

@bombasticbuster9340 9 лет назад

I have a recordio inherited from my wife's granfather. I would like to restore. I have the original wax on aluminum discs that came with it.

@charlesdlosangeles8867 8 лет назад

Cool! But it really bugs me your tone arm is facing upside down!

@Mooncalf2012 8 лет назад

To turn off the beeping on some Sony CD Walkman, hold the stop button down while putting the batteries in, or plugging in the power adapter. This should turn off the beep between tracks and pause.

@Mooncalf2012 8 лет назад

+ThruMy4Eyes I have still have my D321 the first DiscmanESP with 3 second skip protection, it also has line out with optical. I don't know if they bothered putting line-outs in the other models, (maybe the Discman Car.) The 1 Bit models were some of the best players made, awesome sound that was better than most home units at the time.

@TheBRUINSBEAST 9 лет назад

Could cutting into other materials than vinyl can it damage the cutting head

@databits 9 лет назад

***** It could definitely dull the cutting stylus, yes.

@Gabriel_Micah 8 лет назад

3:10 MOONDANCE YAAASS

@coydog7902 6 лет назад

That CD is so cute compared to that huge disc!

@bigdogthehedgehog5906 4 года назад

I'm thinking of putting a parody of Chinese Democracy by Guns 'N' Roses on that laserdisc, LOL!

@cpufreak101 8 лет назад

a good way to send a hidden message lol, burn a record on to a laserdisc of just about anything, but have the video be the secret message lol, a good way to hide messages in plain site lol

@casportflyers 8 лет назад

+Justin Noker I was thinking the same thing here, im a pen tester. Its LaserDisc so the first thing any investigator will do is pop in the disc to see what video analog is on it HOWEVER. If you cut audio, Keep cutting until the entire disk has grooves use static. That way he/she will think its supposed to look like that extra protection by cutting the actual message in the middle or any place but the beginning or end.

@Veso266 9 лет назад

can you record LaseDisc with PC?

@jo12t 8 лет назад

Name of song?

@poopmeat15 8 лет назад

+Tressler John van morrison - moondance

@steampunk7104 8 лет назад

I was wondering if you could tell me where to find a low-cost record recorder/cutter

@databits 8 лет назад

+SteamPunk - ebay is the only low cost store, and you'll likely have to restore the electronics

@steampunk7104 8 лет назад

databits well darn it

@Linus007 9 лет назад

The video on LD is analogue. That is probably why it still came through. There should be two audio tracks one is digital and one is analogue. Try the analogue track. Perhaps it might play.

@databits 9 лет назад

+Linus It probably would, with some distortion/crackle.