Recycling Batteries

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Join Jason from Mt. Baker Mining and Metals as he puts his recycling equipment to the test on household alkaline batteries! In this video, we aim to crush and process batteries using our hammer mill to separate the ferrous components from non-ferrous materials such as zinc-manganese dioxide and sodium or potassium hydroxide.
Watch as the hammer mill performs its crucial role in the initial crushing and liberation process, breaking down batteries to extract the steel cases and ferrous components. Then, witness the efficiency of our conveyor and cross belt magnet as they work seamlessly to separate ferrous materials from non-ferrous elements, ensuring effective recycling and resource recovery.
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@damianstasek8946 3 месяца назад

I wish you would make a mini setup for sampling or hobbyists. Like a tiny turn key toy setup. How cool would that be? Mini hammer mill, mini conveyuers and shaker table too.

@ket_boofer 2 месяца назад

I agree, having my own mini hammer mill would be so cool!

@CATASTEROID934 3 месяца назад

From what I remember the black stuff is almost certainly manganese dioxide mixed with carbon and it looks to be contaminated with zinc, usually the zinc is either present as the casing in zinc-carbon or suspended as particles in a gel in alkaline cells which can be liberated by dissolving the paste in acetone, there's typically a plate bonded onto the top and bottom of the cell and a graphite terminal in zinc-carbon cells or a metallic terminal post in alkaline cells. Try and separate the smaller button cells from the larger alkaline zinc-carbon as some are silver-air cells but more and more lithium chemistry button cells are being sold which is worth keeping in mind.

@junkman8742 3 месяца назад

So would you say this is a wasteful contaminated process with little net return?

@larrytischler570 3 месяца назад

Interesting. I knew there was a lot of carbon and manganese and some potassium. There is also sodium hydroxide. My need was for, manganese potassium, and iron in that order, but the sodium was a problem since this was to be used in horticulture for which I had no source for manganese, and potassium became unavailable two years ago. Then the manufacturers stated a problem with mercury. How much mercury is in alkaline dry cells? Is there a simple way to separate manganese and iron and flush the sodium and potassium. I would prefer to use acetic acid, 9% or 30%, if possible to make this separation because of availability and cost.

@Matt-dc8lp 3 месяца назад

No Mercury used in over 3 decades.

@excitedbox5705 3 месяца назад

@@junkman8742 yes, and doing it outdoors is literally poisoning the town. zinc, cadmium, and all kinds of heavy metals and chemicals. Dust in the wind is going to cover everything down wind.

@CATASTEROID934 3 месяца назад

@@larrytischler570 It's been a long time since I've done anything with the contents of alkaline cells, but I believe manganese dioxide is essentially insoluble in water and resistant to dilute acids whereas those sodium and potassium hydroxides in the electrolytes and other salts would readily dissolve which allows you to filter the solids from the solution, the other content in the solid left after filtering may be treated with acids as long as they're not too aggressive or concentrated to attack and dissolve metals like zinc whereupon the dissolved metal content can be dissolved, you may have some difficulty removing the carbon but if it's for horticulture I doubt it'd an enormous problem. As for the mercury it shouldn't be present in any serious quantity in alkaline cells other than button cells, there may be significant quantities of nickel present though even if it's a it's under 1% quantity by volume

@susanturcotte3176 3 месяца назад

Jason, I don't know if I ever wrote about your equipment that you fabricate. These machines really do the job on just about everything that is recyclable. Every time you try something new, I believe that your business should be gaining a ton of popularity. It's incredible what you have created to make anything to reduce its basic properties! The big thing is to look at the labor and time saved! Thanks for all you do! Warmth and blessings from Alabama ❤️

@brilog69 3 месяца назад

Cool invention! So many purposes!!

@rockman531 3 месяца назад

Hi Jason, Really glad to see that companies are at least trying to recycle the batteries! Hope your customer is super happy with the results! Thumbs up! Stay warm! Jim

@richardlincoln8438 3 месяца назад

Interesting context this episode Jason. Thanks and Best Wishes.

@christianjimbomb8204 3 месяца назад

Great information. Thanks

@dawndixon402 3 месяца назад

😁👋👍👍👏👏💕🙏🏻 Thank you Jason. I get curious about such things at times.

@OGRocker1 3 месяца назад

Cool 👍Many the uses.

@debcamp2359 3 месяца назад

Great video!

@John-ir2zf 3 месяца назад

I don't normally watch short videos like this. But I'll make an exception since you don't do them often.

@carroll-w7wxv 3 месяца назад

Thanks Jason for bring us along! When do you expect to be able to get back into your gold mine this spring?

@donaldfitzgerald8950 3 месяца назад

So much for that bunny that keeps on going! Lol! Keep it happening Jason....💪⚖️👍⚒️🤠

@trevorlawrence9427 3 месяца назад

Fantastic stuff

@AT-os6nb 3 месяца назад

in Canada they grind them up like this and spread the result (minus the steel) on the corn fields for fertilizer.

@soundspark 3 месяца назад

Sure it isn't carbon zinc?

@cosmefulanito5933 3 месяца назад

There is no steel in any battery.

@tristan28849 3 месяца назад

@@cosmefulanito5933he literally just showed it to me

@glastron9988 3 месяца назад

@@cosmefulanito5933the video says otherwise

@southaussiegarbo2054 3 месяца назад

@@cosmefulanito5933 there is lots of steel in all batteries fyi.

@1944chevytruck 3 месяца назад

AWESOME!

@mackie_p 3 месяца назад

Great business idea!!!

@boltonky 3 месяца назад

Places around us stopped recycling batteries, like lots of other things cause they can't be f*ked an prefer in landfill. So awesome your machine can break them down an help out the customer. Seen its actually has multiple uses unlike some of the newer batteries which can be dangerous without the right systems

@joshuajackson6442 3 месяца назад

Thank you

@TheCaptainLulz 3 месяца назад

The black mass is mostly carbon, manganese dioxide, and zinc compounds. It also contains potassium hydroxide, so it is corrosive.

@junkman8742 3 месяца назад

Toxic mess

@TheCaptainLulz 3 месяца назад

@@junkman8742 Not really, as long as you dont eat it. Manganese can be toxic in large amounts, but the oxide doesnt absorb through skin. Potassium hydroxide isnt toxic, just caustic. Zinc is the only threat and it isnt much of one.

@junkman8742 3 месяца назад

@@TheCaptainLulz you're sure he picked out every lithium battery? Nickel cadmium...?

@TheCaptainLulz 3 месяца назад

@@junkman8742 Rechargeable lithium would have caused a fire. They looked like regular disposables, you'd have to ask him though. NiCd and NiMH are hazardous waste so I doubt hed have used them.

@ericyoung7049 3 месяца назад

Note the potassium hydroxide will pick up enough moisture from the air that it'll react with carbon dioxide, forming potassium carbonate. The hydroxide is quite caustic and there's probably plenty of it in the un-damaged cells, but once it's exposed to air such as through leakage it'll form the characteristic efflorescence usually seen first on the anode of old alkaline cells. From batteries chipped up like this, it probably reacts with carbon dioxide in the air within hours or days, although it probably doesn't react *completely* for some time so the pH is probably quite high until it does.

@rupertmiller9690 3 месяца назад

Battery disposal is always a bit sketchy for me. The regulations and where you can drop them off seem to change with the season around here. These days I send them off with my son for disposal in a bin at his workplace that supposedly gets processed in a recycling facility. For all I know it ends up dumped off a barge into the ocean.

@excitedbox5705 3 месяца назад

They actually have to get sorted by type by the facilities. There are many battery chemistries that are not compatible with each other or extremely toxic.

@Adam-xr6fj 3 месяца назад

Gloves and raspirators when working with this stuff.

@thedopplereffect00 3 месяца назад

And don't forget the potential for mercury

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

@@thedopplereffect00how many standard-sized batteries can you think of that have murcury in?

@thedopplereffect00 3 месяца назад

@@MortRotu all alkaline batteries before the mid 90s had some mercury in them. I specifically remember as a kid when they made a big deal about new "green" batteries that are mercury free. Very likely people hoarded the old ones on their junk drawer for decades so you have to just assume they could have mercury in them

@josephcormier5974 3 месяца назад

Well done sir I do believe that you're machine is outstanding thanks for sharing this six stars brother

@user-dg2rp4zh6v 3 месяца назад

Good jason...salam dari Indonesia

@StageRightvideo 3 месяца назад

The manganese dioxide is a messy material that will stain your hand tool's such as pliers so they won't clean up afterwards.

@jasonwcoleman250 3 месяца назад

Jason, you are part of a new wave of advertising. Who needs adds when your whole video is just an add for your product?

@btfou 3 месяца назад

If you need some labor for the mine next year...let me know.

@semoneg2826 3 месяца назад

😊

@mrMacGoover 3 месяца назад

How would copper be separated from the other metals? Electrolysis?

@tomcollins5112 3 месяца назад

So if I've got a bunch of old batteries, where do I bring them?

@rogergriffin9893 3 месяца назад

Yup mostly manganese dioxide mixed with carbon rods all crushed. Unless you got some rechargeable batteries mixed in. Nickel cadmium.

@Orbacron 3 месяца назад

Wash all equipment thoroughly afterwards so as to not corrode parts

@fredygump5578 3 месяца назад

Just be sure you don't send any lithium batteries through the hammer mill!

@Hobypyrocom 3 месяца назад

he will need crazyshit or kaotic account to upload such video... 🤣

@alanl.simmons9726 3 месяца назад

Or Ni-Cad

@hopebear06 3 месяца назад

It could make for a very interesting video though. Especially if you add water.

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

@@hopebear06with the amount it seems to rain at mbmmllc I don't think any more water needs adding...

@Matt-dc8lp 3 месяца назад

If they are discharged, nothing really will happen.

@seasiderjay5240 3 месяца назад

is zinc and lithium magnetic? thats what needs to be recovered more than steel

@billwilliams1842 3 месяца назад

Jason, Just a quick question for you. Why don't you continue to mine the underground mine? The weather would not affect any work underground and you would be able to stockpile material for processing in the spring? I realize getting to the mine would be tough (do not have any knowledge on conditions in mountains) but what would the old-timers have done? Thanks

@awldune 3 месяца назад

I'm not him, but in the first video he was saying that July was the earliest in the year that he could get up there. There was still snow on the road. I think it must be WAY up in the mountains. But also, it will take time to process all the ore they removed. The old-timers I guess would have gone up on mules and lived at the mine.

@billwilliams1842 3 месяца назад

I kind of thought the same thing. Working underground (I would not think) during the winter months would not have to stop along with continue to build up the supply of ore to process in the spring. It would get mighty lonely though!

@malcolmanon4762 3 месяца назад

I don’t know if they filter out the scrap they send you, but you'll potentially have to watch out that there aren’t Ni or Cd containing battery chemistries. I think Pb chemistries for consumer electronics batteries are gone, though I'll stan to be corrected on that.

@lukethedank13 3 месяца назад

There is a significant amount of manganese oxide in those bateries. I wonder if you would be able to recover some manganese metal. Side question: I will be doing some cupelation with bismuth as colector metal in near future. At what temperature do you cupelate your samples?

@SteveandSusiesHomestead 3 месяца назад

I kind of expected a explosion . Glad it didnt .

@Matt-dc8lp 3 месяца назад

The "wire" is a brass nail thats the current collector for the anode. It is welded to a steel end plate which is why it got carried with the magnetics.

@cosmefulanito5933 3 месяца назад

There is no steel in any battery. Nor brass either.

@bevodee2078 3 месяца назад

Hey Jason would love to know what the black stuff came back as containing if you ever find out?

@BGTech1 Месяц назад

Manganese dioxide

@ALBatinah_Marble 2 месяца назад

The black powder is Manganize oxide

@hilariomartinez8220 3 месяца назад

Is that the smallest machine available

@TwelveCities 3 месяца назад

Cool vid as always. Thanks Jason. As mentioned in other comments, Potassium Hydroxide used in battery electrolite can be corrosive to machinery. Adding a neutralizer to crushing process may be a wise consideration. A weak acid such as Acetic Acid or Citric seems common. Probably worth a quick consult with a chemist.

@mrMacGoover 3 месяца назад

What happened to the battery acid?

@arifkorkmaz5630 3 месяца назад

Good

@gnomespace 3 месяца назад

I have about 2 lb of hearing aid batteries, so am looking at mashing those soon. Great vid!

@andyjohnson3790 3 месяца назад

Careful, older hearing aide batteries had mercury in them

@larrykluckoutdoors8227 3 месяца назад

👍👍👍

@paulswickard7488 3 месяца назад

What about the battery acids?

@xyzabc4574 3 месяца назад

That "Malcom in the Middle" episode where they rent a wood chipper and start throwing all kinds of shit into it? Yeah. The hammer mill is that in real life.

@gslope1 3 месяца назад

Sure this is a dumb question. What value is there to the stuff in the battery?

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

Manganese, copper, zinc, iron, nickel... And if you're a special kind of pyromaniac, lithium...

@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542 3 месяца назад

Well if nothing else, there will be zinc, manganese and steel... Also some carbon... Maybe, depending on what other types of batteries, could be nickel, cadmium, cobalt, phosphorous, lithium, copper or aluminum as well.

@cosmefulanito5933 3 месяца назад

There is no steel in any battery.

@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542 3 месяца назад

@@cosmefulanito5933 Are you genuinely that ignorant, or just that much of a troll as to lie about something so proven as the fact that all small cells are made with a steel housing?

@rikspector 3 месяца назад

Jason, Great job od recycling something that is really a nuisance to get dispose of legally! Cheers, Rik Spector

@d.t.4523 3 месяца назад

Thank you, now take a coffee break.

@jamesedwardson605 3 месяца назад

keep up the good work.... BUT NOW watch for rusting like salt water would....

@Zonkotron 3 месяца назад

Hmm, afaik these are best recycled with a small blast furnace. Company in Germany just melts them down. Carbon and Plastic are fuel, manganese oxide and iron become good metallurgical iron/steel and any zinc distills off as vapor - which is - coincidentally - how zinc is refined anways and how the zinc from galvanised scrap is recovered in well equipped steel mills. Simple as that. What we really need as a society is better ways of recycling lithium batteries, they contain substances which are a) much more valuable b) more toxic and c) not processable via a single melt because nobody wants a aluminum, copper, cobalt nickel alloy :P

@BillMulholland1 3 месяца назад

👍

@user-ft5vq2bt4l 3 месяца назад

Hello brother... I'm from Indonesian, Im processing precious metals from natural resources (stone, soil, sand, mud etc.)

@slimwantedman6694 3 месяца назад

As long as cerro grodo isnt on here we will watch

@semoneg2826 3 месяца назад

Why???😊

@TaiGell 3 месяца назад

this type of batteries usually contain mostly carbon/graphite rod and manganese dioxide paste, so not very much precious metals.

@Chris-ch5nb 3 месяца назад

And on the next episode… we crush live ammunition.

@NorthDownReader 3 месяца назад

There was an episode where Jason crushed used cartridges. Not all of them had fully discharged...

@sk1fpv 3 месяца назад

Try it with lipo's

@macdietz 3 месяца назад

Had to check it wasn't the first of April

@Hobypyrocom 3 месяца назад

seems like the "steel" part has allot of copper in it, is there any way to separate that? from what i can see, it seems like there are alkaline and regular batteries in that batch, i think you can salvage zinc from those too...

@fieryvale 3 месяца назад

The steel is going to recycling anyway. The recycle center can sort out the metals much more efficiently than we.

@cheycasters 3 месяца назад

🎸🎸

@davidcook6034 3 месяца назад

inside the lantern battery is aaa batteries

@stevensnyder5332 3 месяца назад

Jason, I am the first one...Love your channel

@Caberbalschnit 3 месяца назад

Need to redo this with 100% li-ion batts lol. Would pay for a pTreon of that lol.

@StirlingLighthouse 3 месяца назад

Aren’t there 4 D cells inside the large 6 volt batteries? Same as there’s 6 AAA batteries in a nine volt?

@chrisw6103 3 месяца назад

All will be pulverized the same way.

@CATASTEROID934 3 месяца назад

Yeah the larger 6 volt lantern batteries have four 1.5 volt cells inside them, it's what I think the braided copper wire you can see in the metallic parts later in the video is from. I believe the cells inside a 9 volt battery are colloquially known as "AAAA" cells from what I remember, but yes there's usually six short, narrow cylindrical 1.5 volt cells in two rows of three in a 9 volt battery in two rows of three held within a steel casing.

@Matt-dc8lp 3 месяца назад

Some, yes. For the 9v, most have flat cells contained in plastic. Only a few high end ones still use AAAA's (not AAA).

@texasrob2782 3 месяца назад

You really should know what's in your materials BEFORE you crush it. But if safety in not your top priority, that's ok. How do you deal with lithium ion batteries getting accidentally mixed in? A partially charged Li ion could burst into flames and set your rubber belt on fire. Have you had this happen yet?

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

Doubtful, else he'd have checked for lithiums first..

@fieryvale 3 месяца назад

This was a sample sent in by a customer. I highly doubt Jason will ever crush batteries again.

@junkman8742 3 месяца назад

You gotta crush it to know what's in it. Duh

@danielsasboot4466 3 месяца назад

Specific Gravity Madman

@ibstryder4736 3 месяца назад

Hey support

@smarouchoc7300 3 месяца назад

That bug lantern battery has graphite rods in it - those have uses if you pull em out whole. They make good electrodes for electrolysis. I remeber in high school, my chemistry teacher had graphite in his setup for making hydrogen (and oxygen) from water 😁

@user-hm1cw5ri5u 3 месяца назад

And the silver is in the batteries, it's there..???

@markmckeown5855 3 месяца назад

Batteries contain corrosive material, to my understanding. Where did that corrosive material go after shredding?? Ps. I am watching all your videos multiple times, not in a row, lol....?

@ClassicallyNamed 3 месяца назад

Add hydrogen peroxide to the nonferrous material, stand back and light a match.. . It will make pure oxygen..

@goldcountryruss7035 3 месяца назад

Don't I see copper wire in the steel? Can't you provide another step that separates the more valuable copper from the steel?

@alanl.simmons9726 3 месяца назад

Sodium hydroxide, also known as lye and caustic soda, NaOH

@Matt-dc8lp 3 месяца назад

There's no NaOH in alkaline batteries, only KOH.

@michaelsmith7425 3 месяца назад

Just curious see what they got out of that pile of dead batteries? I have a bucket 3x as big as what you showed.

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

I hope you made sure those were all discharged before they went in the hammer mill

@Adrian-ck3ox 3 месяца назад

Czemu nie ma polskich napisów?

@Friedolays 2 месяца назад

Doug funny

@CokeCheese 3 месяца назад

That's a bizarre thing to recycle as there are no valuable materials in alkaline batteries.

@CATASTEROID934 3 месяца назад

Quite the opposite- the manganese dioxide and metal content has a small but non-zero recycling value that while not terribly valuable in small volumes, can potentially add up to a significant sum if recycled in the tens or hundreds of kilos

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

As with most things in recycling, volume is the name of the game. 10 or 20kg mightn't be worth while but 200-300kg if you've already got the kit will be.

@junkman8742 3 месяца назад

Energy

@Rocket39Smoke14 3 месяца назад

Wash the steel pieces. They are covered in whatever is considered valuable.

@TroyDowVanZandt 3 месяца назад

Jason should start a new channel entitled Crushin' Stuff. I'd be among the first subscribers. My Y chromosome would compel me to watch for hours on end.

@Zendukai 3 месяца назад

Our smelter is chucking in used batteries like those now, getting all the goodies out of it, not lithiums of course.

@Sam.Sung_ 3 месяца назад

Pour some hydrogen peroxide on the black powder.

@arodyanksfan 3 месяца назад

I'm pretty sure this isn't good to do because if that black stuff gets in your mouth or eyes it can cause a serious burn. And trust me, if there was value in scrapping these batteries, companies would be doing it.

@campervan-john 3 месяца назад

Uses more money in power than the metals worth

@thedopplereffect00 3 месяца назад

Many older alkaline batteries contained mercury. This seems like a terrible idea

@MortRotu 3 месяца назад

And how many of those are kicking around now?

@thedopplereffect00 3 месяца назад

@@MortRotu it's hard to say. Lots of people hoard things for decades.

@arne6787 3 месяца назад

Alkaline batteries have KOH inside which is usable. However watch out handling the MnO2. It is a cumulative neurotoxin. The carbon can be converted into Graphene. Also steel and zinc.

@stephenB-yq9kw 3 месяца назад

There carbon rods

@cosmefulanito5933 3 месяца назад

There is no steel in any battery.

@rmg03c 3 месяца назад

Ok. Little help in education here? Why would one wish, from Batteries, to harvest steel??!!

@johnthompson6656 3 месяца назад

Maybe now we won't have to pay to recycle standard batteries when we try to be responsible.

@ile84 3 месяца назад

I believe you know enough about lithium batteries not to throw then into that crusher. That would be a show of sparks a bit, maybe a little fire at the belt too, especially when air is moist/wet.

@CosmicConnectionVibes 3 месяца назад

I just throw mine to the nearest body of water, has worked out well for me for years. Nice to hear about alternatives, I have been sometimes wondered about recycling but the cost-benefit just is not there with the current level of technology we have.

@BornIn1500 3 месяца назад

So you intentionally litter and pollute the waterways?

@CosmicConnectionVibes 3 месяца назад

@@BornIn1500The water has some mechanism which recycles the batteries automatically, I have never seen any changes in the water. So it must be fine. Nature is truly remarkable.

@user-ug5sb6qg1u 24 дня назад

Either you're joking or you may be the biggest idiot on the planet.

@Alondro77 3 месяца назад

And now to try it with LITHIUM batteries! *one titanic explosion later* Can someone help me find my legs... and arms... and internal organs? X_______________x

@Obshowersyndicate 3 месяца назад

Put that in your pipe and smoke it

@bunk822 3 месяца назад

I bet you spent more on electricity to grind that stuff up than you got selling the product 😕

@mysterybuyer3738 3 месяца назад

I am wondering if any silver is in the mix. I am getting tired of giving these away to the recycler. Everyone needs to pay for metal. No more free metals!

@andyjohnson3790 3 месяца назад

The real problem is not how to recycle, its getting humans to actually stop throwing resources in thr garbage