Doesn't he say something like... We can talk about that later?? lol Not sure if I remember that right but I remember laughing when the interruption happens.
Father: Builds a house takes about a year to complete John, a man of strenght and wisdom: Builds a whole ranch in three minutes with the power of hammer and a nail
Wait this is a bug! I just started playing it for the first time ever about a week ago. So this is actually a bug and not just me wearing the wrong shit?
The actor that played Bill Williamson had a great analysis of the character. “If Bill felt accepted, not just tolerated then he’d of most likely sided with Arthur and John.” That’s pretty powerful to anyone with reverence for the story. I’ve played through both stories many times, but never really considered the tragedy behind Bill’s storyline until I heard that take. Beautifully put character study!
There was once scene in the camp at Shady Belle between Bill and Hosea where Bill was apologising to Hosea about his bad first impression of Hosea but Hosea just kinda brushed him off and called him a sad excuse of a man and then told him about Arthur calling him a sheep in wolf's clothing and then laughing at him after that and at that point i felt so bad for bill
@@damo905Thats hinted at like 20 times in the story. The fact that people still don’t realise that blows my mind. I can genuinely think of like 5 dialogues hinting towards it off the top of my head. The biggest one probably being at the beginning of the game when they say Lenny would have been a nice couple with Jenny because their name fit, and they name a couple other gang members that rhyme with women names, but for Bill they say Will (male name)
I feel like Bill's voice actor displayed intelligence just like Bill does in the game, which you can see sometimes through the camp interactions. I feel like Bill is more complicated and smarter than he conveys himself to be, and it was nice seeing the VA reflect that.
Thats a pretty creepy image, ngl. Imagine a cutscene, Micah is by himself in Shady Belle, on the stump by the poker table... 2am... uncle snores by the fire while a soft static crackles and over the top is the rhythmic scrape of Micahs knife: *sssshhhhhhhhhHHHK* .... *sssshhhhhhhhhHHHK* As the rhythm continues, camera zooms out to reveal Shady Belle terrace and all the other characters, their heads impaled around the fountain in a circle. Cuts back to a shot of uncle snoring and we hear Micah say "in life, there are winners.. and then there are losers... But in _death_ , old man?" Suddenly the static and the knife stop. Its just uncle's breathing and some toads and crickets in the nearby grass. The shot becomes unfocused as it refocuses on Micahs eyes in the background... staring straight at uncle. "... _everybody_ is a loser, in death..." Micah slowly stands. Scene cuts to black ... _"Read Dead Redemption DLC - Micah's Angling Adventures"_ (Tell me you wouldn't play the shit out of the Micah fishing DLC 😂)
I love that Roger mentioned the fact that when Arthur opens up to Rains Fall about his dead son, Rains Fall is just like "hold on, I'm gonna go pick some herbs!"
@@bron0726 20:21 In chapter 6, there are a set of (not exactly) 'hidden' main/side quest related to Rain Falls and his tribe. In one of those mission, Arthur opens up about his past to RF, but the character's AI prioritizes the task at hand (pick up herbs) over the dialogue, so the was this awkward pause during the exchange. It is a bit jarring but also kind of funny.
@@gergopiroska5749 not as much as you think, you probably didnt notice but half the time hosea wasnt even at camp, he would go off and do things alone (like hunting, before he saw the big bear he and arthur hunt)
I agree with those that say it's true to Hosea's character because while Hosea talked a lot, he also knew when to be quiet and let the gang have their opinions. But there are many times you find him reading and thinking to himself. The more you play, the more you notice.
Gabriel's reply was awesome. So suave and charming. I love him singing "Cielito Lindo". And oh my goodness, the "Brad Pitt of the gang" comment cracked me up. I did love Peter's reply. I laughed so hard (the cast was in stitches).
Hey! Was wondering when this would turn up! Thanks for sharing. FYI, there was no other cast. All foreign languages were subtitled and not dubbed so you can just call us the cast.
Thanks for letting us know. We either include the wording "English Cast" or "English Voice Actor" due to a standards and practice we follow. We will modify the title to better clarify the name of the panel.
@@ConventionCoverage Thank you, I hate to keep doing this but the vast majority of work done on Red Dead was performance capture and not in fact voice acting. They are two extremely different disciplines. We're trying really hard to raise awareness to the fans as to how their favorite video games are actually made. Voice acting is and always will be a staple part of gaming but pretty much all AAA games today use performance capture as the predominate way to record an actor's performance. So we're not just the voice! We did everything you see in the game apart from major stunts. Just calling us the 'cast' is the easiest, most accurate label. I appreciate the edit very much! Thanks again.
Exactly! Javier's turn made no sense to me at all. Especially given how helpful he was to Arthur and John, and how he seemed to simply tolerate Micah and Bill because Dutch wanted them around. He wasn't a bad guy for 99 per cent of the game.
@@magnieto1 I think he was just confused by what was happening and knew he wouldn't survive if he joined John and Arthur, and since him and Dutch aren't together after you can assume him and bill left after what happened.
Frogen Red it’s sad to think that he didn’t want to shoot them because he still trusted them and saw them as friends but John still ends up killing him in the future
Something underrated that Hosea's voice actor said was how Hosea should've been more assertive. I feel like most people just brushed over that. Hosea is a brilliant character and as he said, him and Dutch have been together right from the get go, while Dutch might be calling the shots, Hosea is definitely more wise and shouldn't have let Micah steer Dutch into the wrong path.
@Arthur morgan aliens would suck. Ruind the feeling of the old west. I know there are aliens already and time travelers shit. I like those little easter eggs but we dont need a dlc of that
To be fair though, Rockstar gave us one of the biggest most indepth single player experiences ever.. gotta give them credit for that. And you know any other company would have chopped off the epilogue and sold it as DLC, but Rockstar included it all
Roger Clark is such an amazingly intelligent person, he's really quick in understanding his coworkers and is always there ready to save them from cringy situations, akward silences and all that. He's really that kind of person you'd like to have around, or that you'd even like to be, really
I really think given proper time to process things he'd have sided with Arthur. He only decided to side with Dutch, I think, because he didn't know what to do and well, Dutch was the leader so that was the default
What's Poppin B It’s actually your choice to whether John kills Javier himself or not. Obviously you still have to capture him but if you just turn him in the agents will take him. I do believe he still gets executed but I don’t remember if that was actually said.
Well in the end mission Javier shot at John and Arthur while riding their horses. Javier just didn't have a brain for himself, he trusted Dutch too much despite the circumstances
TornadicBandit he actually isn’t in that scene, it’s just Dutch, Micah, cleet, joe, and maybe Bill I can’t remember if he was there. But Javier just left
Directors: "OK let's make him taller, him skinnier and his voice deeper" *Hosea walks in* Directors: "OK we aren't gonna change a THING about this guy"
“Bill’s biggest weakness is he’s always seeking approval and he doesn’t feel accepted.” That’s what I’m talking about with the character of Bill Williamson. His story is really just as much of a tragedy as John or Arthur’s, where the pitiful idiot turns into a monster via the circumstances he’s faced. I believe Abigail said in Red Dead 1 that when Dutch went insane, Javier took it the hardest but I disagree, it was obviously Bill who took it the hardest.
I think Javier took it the hardest because he didn't have a purpose anymore, he lost his family and he had to comeback to Mexico, Bill actually had his own gang that he always wanted
Yeah, another deep aspect of his character, is some think hes racist because of the war with the indians, when the fact is hes haunted by them, he has ptsd instead. Listen to the wolves story. If he were racist and fought for that reason Charles wiuld not have been able to even say hello let alone fight beside him.
28:24 the way they all respond "howdy" so naturally gives me life Also, super sad how they all wanted Rockstar to do a DLC and Rob felt the need to promote RDO because they know it won't happen. Rockstar is too greedy and even the actors know that.
I love that Gabriel is so defensive for Javier. Seriously we have him alone to thank for actually being a decent man in rdr2 a completely different person then who he is in the first game. As a Mexican who absolutely loves westerns and cowboys, Javier was one of my favorite characters and now I know I have Gabriel to thank for it ✊🏽😂
I always felt Bill wasn't as bad as the narrative tried to imply. But by the time of the events of the first Redemption, he's certainly lost any of what well meaning he may have had prior. In RDR2, he's very loyal to the gang. He was also a vetern. By the end of the game, when everyone is at a stand off, Bill was forced to side with Dutch over Arther. It's a bit ironic, considering he would later break off from the Dutch gang and form his own offshoot, stating that he was tired of taking orders. It's also somewhat in implied in dialogue by Grimshaw that Bill is a bit of a hot head and that she thinks he's capable of killing innocent people. In RDR, his gang committs rape and murder. And it's suggested that the gang in particular is violent. So he's of course a villain at that point. Possibly insane too.
Oh, I agree 100%! It was definitely their strongest moment, despite the heartbreak of losing Sean. Sean may have been like an annoying little brother, but he was nevertheless a good member of the gang. I loved his camaraderie with most of the gang, his agreement with Arthur (and others) on not trusting Micah, and how good he was with Jack. I made sure those Braithwaites and Grays paid for the loss of Sean. And also, you noticed that Dutch really cared about John's mental state when it came to rescuing Jack? He made sure if John was really up to it and kept his emotions in line so he wouldn't go crazy, even as hell broke loose.
yea i agree, that was the dumbest question i ever heard asked to voice actors. like come on they don't even get to decide what's gonna happen on the next games.. wtf
I let out a small “awww” when Rob and Mr. Dobell (can’t remember his first name, Hosea’s actor) said who their favorite character was. I just felt some kind of emotion that i can’t explain, with a tear sloooowly dripping on my cheek.
NHILE Ik this is an old comment but honestly, the actors are the characters, Ik that the creators are in charge and they made it but when you are the character and relate to it and have a attachment to that person you become them and that’s what he did he felt like Javier wouldn’t fully agree with Dutch and that Arthur was his brother and he knew what was wrong like, he took into consideration that hey I’m this character and Ik him more then his own creator and I spent more time in him
What an absolute honor this would be. I couldn't even imagine standing in front of, let alone talking to, all these amazing people who took me through the best journey and experience I've ever had in any type of art work, especially Roger Clark and Rob Wiethoff.
Arthur Butler I get what ur saying, but there just people like u and me. Talk to em normally fam..... they probably don’t like it when ur all timid and scared lmao. That would get on my nerves at least.
You can tell when a cast has gotten close on set and become a family. I feel that vibe really strongly from this cast and it’s wonderful. Makes me love the game even more.
I’m surprised nobody mentioned Hamish for the “what is your favorite character” question. He’s one of the most underrated characters in the Rockstar series by far.
Hamish is amazingly fleshed out! As is Charlotte. Some of the less crazy strangers in the World give it the Wild West vibes it needs. Its like an history class in game.
Arthur Morgan - epitome for the best protagonist in a video game in recent memory. Micah Bell - epitome for the best antagonist in a video game in recent memory. Seriously, these two were sooooo well written. Bravo. I miss this game! Cant handle seeing Arthur pass away again in good honor. 😭
15:45 What Roger Clark says here is so true and hilarious if he does say anything About DLC for RDR2 then someone is going to make a Clickbait Video with “OMG RDR2 DLC CONFIRMED”
25:03 jesus, hearing that out of "Hoseas" mouth made me kinda sad. Like hosea is standing before heavens gates explaining why lenny should be let in as well.
I would’ve liked to hear someone mention Kieren when discussing some of their personal favourite characters. He was just some lost kid who had to find his way and got caught up with the o’driscolls. And when he finally finds a group that he could rely on, it was so hard for him just to fit in because of where he came from. All he wanted was a family and he only got some aspects of that. It wasn’t until his death where you see how much the gang actually did care for him
The braithwaite manor mission; hell yeah! I LOVE that mission, it’s probably the best in the game just because the Van Der Linde gang is at 100% power and coolness/badassness in that mission!
7:45 When Peter Blomquist said his favourite song for Micah was the Static between the radio stations I fucking died of laughter 😅😅😅😅😅😅 and at the part where he describes how he loved being the villain . I've watched so many of these conventions on youtube . This one was amazing and funny as hell
Peter Bloomquest, I Love the honesty in that damn man. "I think for Micah I would he the static between stations." The honesty for his character. Peter Bloomquest is the exact opposite for Micah. He is loving, funny, honest whilst Micah is hateful, vigorous, and downright dishonest and disloyal. I could go on for godamn hours about Micah but there is no point as all the points have been said.