This gives you a good idea of the size difference between Elk and Red Stag! We have both Elk and Red Stag on our Ranch in New Zealand and we guide many trophy hunters successfully on these species every year. www.mountainhu...
@@robertoaiello9342 lol, the largest Alaskan moose individuals would still get trashed by a bison (just learned of a bison emoji 🦬)because the bison could break its legs with a charge and the moose would be helpless >:)
@@regularjoe4613I guess they can because here in New Zealand a lot of our wapiti/elk herd is made up of red cross wapiti hybrids. They're very closely related so they have compatible genetics
@@bumbackgroundacc female red deer and North American elk are the size of a large mule deer doe. Bull elk and red deer bulls/stags are pretty massive. More like a small horse as far as their bodies go.
I love how half way through it the red stag is like oh cool there is a bee and looks the other way and the elk is just there in a fighting stance and the red stag goes oh right the fight
It's interesting to see these two together as they're very very closely related (They are both one of the only Cervus species, other realtives being Corsican, Barbary and Traim deer), but what's funny is how vastly different they sound, and man the Red Stag sounds so much bigger than what it looks lmao.
@Black Spectre, correct, the genus Cervus (Common Deer) currently has six extant members being the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), of the six extant species of this genus, the red deer is the most basal, then followed by the split between two clades, one that is constituted by the mediterranean deer and barbary deer and the other that is constituted by the caspian deer, hangul, and elk/wapiti.
Oh the stag isn't small... The elk is just closer to moose as far as height goes. Red deer are normaly the size of a person give or take a couple inches
@@indyreno2933Those are subspecies, not species. The five extant species of Cervus are as follows: Red Deer ( Cervus elaphus) Central Asian Red Deer (Cervus hanglu) Thorold's Deer (Cervus albirostris) Sika Deer (Cervus nippon) Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis) "C. barbarus, C. corsicanus C. maral" are all subspecies of Red Deer.
@ScaleHunt, actually, there are six extant species in the genus Cervus: the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), the thorold's deer and sika deer are no longer part of the Cervus genus, the thorold's deer belongs to the monotypic genus Przewalskium, where its scientific name is actually Przewalskium albirostris, while sika deer now constitute the genus Ocellelaphus as four separate polytypic species: the Southeast Asian Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus pseudaxis), the Chinese Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus mandarinus), the Formosan Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus taiouanus), and the Japanese Sika Deer (Ocellelaphus nippon), the correct english name for Cervus hanglu is "hangul" not "central asian red deer" as the term "red deer" refers exclusively to Cervus elaphus, the hangul is a distinct poltypic species that is more closely related to the elk, the caspian deer is also now a separate species that is more closely related to both the hangul and elk, the mediterranean deer and barbary deer are both considered separate species that form a clade that is the sister clade to the one that contains the caspian deer, hangul, and elk/wapiti, the thorold's deer (Przewalskium albirostris) is more closely related to the Père david's deer (Elaphurus davidianus) of the monotypic genus Elaphurus, while the sika deer (genus Ocellelaphus) are more closely related to the fallow deer (genus Dama), chitals (genus Axis), and hog deer (genus Hyelaphus), you should know there are actually now seventy extant deer species under twenty genera.
@indyreno2933 As of 2011 ICUN has put the Thorold's Deer in the Cervus genus. " This species was formerly classified in a distinct genus as Przewalskium albirostris, however, morphological, behavioural and genetic analyses align this species with the Red Deer clade (Wilson and Mittermeier 2011). No subspecies are recognized."
They are actually the same species believe it or not... both are Cervus Elaphus. Elk are just a sub species, but they can interbreed. Same idea as Grizzly Bears, Brown Bears, and Kodiak Bears. All three are subspecies of the overarching species Ursus Arctos.
@Teo Lobot, actually you are incorrect, they are actually separate species, the Cervus genus now contains only six extant species: the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), meaning the Cervus genus is now restricted to only the red deer and extant species that used to be conspecific with it, members of the Cervus genus are referred to as common deer.
Hard to imagine that until recently, we thought they were the same species. Also, the bigger elk sounds like a wailing banshee while the smaller red deer has such a mighty roar that it would make a lion feel inadequate.
@@Bignfluffy yah, cuz compared to the elk literally right next to him, he don’t look much bigger than a mule deer, so, in my opinion yes, small bodied! I hunt elk every year, thrm things big
It seems like they are both standing their ground. There's a lot of posturing going on, which is another form of displaying dominance in the deer world.
All of these people complaining how small the red stag is don't understand the meaning of subspecies. It's probably a Scottish subspecies. Carpathian and Caspian subspecies are very much comparable in size to wapities (elk), at 400 kgs for a good-sized male. Only the Alaskan elk and the ones from Northern Canada would actually be visibly bigger than Carpathian or Caspian red deer. This comparison is not relevant if you want to represent the entire species.
@FirebonE_88, not anymore, the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus) is an exclusively European species, there are now only six extant deer species included in the Cervus genus: the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis).
@FirebonE_88, Cervus elaphus is rendered as polyphyletic, which is the reason why the mediterranean deer, barbary deer, caspian deer, hangul, and elk/wapiti are all now considered separate species from the red deer, the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus) is a polytypic species with two recognized subspecies: the Corsican Deer (Cervus corsicanus corsicanus) and the Sardinian Deer (Cervus corsicanus sardinianus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus) is a monotypic species, the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral) is a monotypic species, the Hangul (Cervus hanglu) is a polytypic species with three recognized subspecies: the Kashmir Hangul (Cervus hanglu hanglu), the Bactrian Hangul (Cervus hanglu bactrianus), and the Yarkand Hangul (Cervus hanglu yarkandensis), and the Elk or Wapiti (Cervus canadensis) is a polytypic species with fifteen recognized subspecies: the Tibetan Elk (Cervus canadensis wallichii), the Kansu Elk (Cervus canadensis kansuensis), the Sichuan Elk (Cervus canadensis macneilli), the Mongolian Elk (Cervus canadensis mongoliensis), the Alashan Elk (Cervus canadensis alashanicus), the Tian Shan Elk (Cervus canadensis songaricus), the Manchurian Elk (Cervus canadensis xanthopygus), the †Korean Elk (Cervus canadensis coreanus), the Siberian Elk (Cervus canadensis sibiricus), the Roosevelt's Elk (Cervus canadensis roosevelti), the Rocky Mountain Elk (Cervus canadensis nelsoni), the Tule Elk (Cervus canadensis nannodes), the †Merriam's Elk (Cervus canadensis merriami), the Manitoba Elk (Cervus canadensis manitobensis), and the †Algonquin Elk (Cervus canadensis canadensis), leaving the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus) to have now only ten recognized subspecies: the Crimean Red Deer (Cervus elaphus brauneri), the Pannonian Red Deer (Cervus elaphus pannoniensis), the Alpine Red Deer (Cervus elaphus hippelaphus), the Mesola Red Deer (Cervus elaphus italicus), the Iberian Red Deer (Cervus elaphus hispanicus), the Swedish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus elaphus), the Norwegian Red Deer (Cervus elaphus atlanticus), the Scottish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus scoticus), the English Red Deer (Cervus elaphus englandensis), and the Irish Red Deer (Cervus elaphus hibernicus).
Whoa, you guys have elk in NZ?? I knew NZ had introduced deer populations, but I thought they were smaller Eurasian species like we have in South-Eastern Australia. Living in Canada for years I've seen elk in the wild, they're magnificent creatures, on a whole different level to other deer. Bagging a trophy bull elk is high up on my bucket list, envious you Kiwis have a local population (although Wikpedia tells me there's been so much interbreeding with red deer there's probably no pure elk lineage left anymore).
@@MsAggie78 I know they're not native, NZ has no native mammals except a few bats - that's why I said "introduced deer populations". The video description saying "We have both Elk and Red Stag on our Ranch in New Zealand" clued me in to the captive stock part, but the relevant point is that the species was introduced and there's a self-sustaining population inhabiting the island(s). There is no such population in Australia.
They are actually the same species believe it or not... both are Cervus Elaphus. Elk are just a sub species, but they can interbreed. Same idea as Grizzly Bears, Brown Bears, and Kodiak Bears. All three are subspecies of the overarching species Ursus Arctos.
Nope, Elk are Cervus Canadensis. They are used to be recognised as same species but not anymore. But yeah, they're still same genus so they can interbred
@Kotaro Jujo, correct, there are now only six extant species under the Cervus genus: the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis).
What is the difference between an elk and a moose? In german translation i got elch as elk which means also moose? The typical swedish moose has different sovel anklers
In America, the elk is the large deer in the video. They are also known as the wapiti, which is their original name in Cree language. In Europe, an elk is what Americans call moose, with moose coming from Algonquian language.
@@doubledee8677 Nice try. Let me rephrase. " These animals are bred for a pussy fatass who can't ACTUALLY hunt an animal because he's too old, American, or fat. He will pay thousands to be allowed into this game farm, where he will cleanly blow away the captive animal like the little bitch he is." Is that better??
Right, Caucasian red deer or red deer from the Carpathians can rival wapiti in size. In general red deer seem to have been bigger historically in western Europe than they are today, probably becase of poaching pressure
@@gutemorcheln6134 Definitely. The monarchs of the Glen are more the runts of the Glen these days, due to poor habitat, heavy selective pressure against the largest stags and little in the way of natural predators doing their job.
@@rewild6134 Could be interesting to see how their size develops in the European Rewilding regions, like velebit, carpathians or the danube delta, without any hunters or human caused stress in general, and where they can migrate and roam in an almost natural way, like they have done the thousands of years before
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 NO... In the USA, an elk is and ELK... a Moose is a completely different animal, the same Moose in USA as in Europe, Finland for example. You have no idea what you are speaking of
Now that we know the legendary *Megaloceros* - also known as "Irish Elk" - not to be an elk at all, but a giant form of the extant European red deer, the Wapitis and Sambars of this world can only hope the former will not be brought back to life by nutty geneticists lest the reincarnated Megaloceros travel to New Zealand to take revenge for 80 years of humiliation endured by his diminutive fellow stags at the hands of the dominant bull wapitis who stole their womenfolk and fathered an army of bastards.
Wrong , red deer arent max to 200kg , they can get higher then 250kg , my friend shot a 278kg stag , they can probably get to 310, a full grown gets to 220cm high from head to the ground ( bigger than u ) a elk gets bigger than 3 metters probably and get to 480 to 500 mx kg
