Refinish A Foam Jet Ep 1 - Freewing F-14 Tomcat Assembly Mods & Paint Prep

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This has been an extremely long time coming, but finally I'm to the point to be able to start rolling out videos and articles on the Freewing F-14 Tomcat refinish! In this first episode, I talk through the refinish process the lays the foundation for transforming the model into a true warfighter. In addition, I talk through some of the assembly modifications and additions I added to the model including some landing gear reinforcement, reconfiguring and cleaning up the battery hatch, a moveable tailhook and more. Full article is available at thercgeek.com/kitbashing #TheRCGeek #KitBashing #f14tomcat
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First Flights ► • Flight of the Flir Cat...
Intro 00:00
The Refinish Process 2:45
Tail Hook 5:00
CenterBurners & Fan Install/ESC Cooling 6:15
Canopy Hatch Mod 7:20
Wheel Covers 8:15
Wing Glove Seal 8:43
Landing Gear Reinforcement 9:25
Primer/Sand/Primer 12:00
Final Thoughts 15:20
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@flyboy5736 3 года назад

Love these workshop videos! Sooo much talent.

@stephenthomas2311 3 года назад

Thank you for making this vid. Looking forward to seeing more mods on this airframe.

@kelser414 3 года назад

Wow...gorgeous! Nice work, thanks for the video. And the fact that there's a Millennium Falcon sitting off to the side is just icing on the cake. Love it! :)

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Haha, thanks! My kids and I are big Star Wars fans. 😁

@davidsnyder238 3 года назад

So much good information, i could watch you build all day. Nice to see some familiarity in the underside, hiding the receiver and wires 😉 Great stuff so far my friend!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks man! So glad it’s helpful. 😊

@howardwilliams2587 3 года назад

Absolutely beautiful, great work and thanks for sharing ...

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you!

@88Steelblue 3 года назад

Thank you so much for demonstrating in detail the filling, Polycrylic, then aerosol primer sequence. That will really help me with my new project 😀 Greeting from Old England.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

So glad it’s helpful!

@michaelbrinkley9323 3 года назад

Absolutely beautiful

@davidpoling7748 3 года назад

I love these refinish series! Recently bought an airbrush and have been getting into refinishing and scratchbuilding myself! Just finished on a fms p39 I crashed a few years ago. Got it looking better than ever using a lot of your techniques. Thanks for the vids!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks man, I’m so glad it’s been helpful! I’d love to see the end result. 😊

@lextek595 3 года назад

Always impressed and inspired!

@VegasJD 2 года назад

The automotive filler primer is great! I've not tried the Dupli-Color, but have used the Hot Rod Shop brand and it turns out great.

@mjg22 3 года назад

Great… I’m loocking forward modify a foam plane using this process. 👍🏻

@hammertime964 3 года назад

Wow Chris, lotsa work. A true labor of love. Nice job🍻

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Indeed, haha! But the work is always worth it in the end. 😊

@alexgonzales1855 9 месяцев назад

I just got this plane and the goal is to do a refinish. Lots to learn. Thx Rc Geek..

@Thercgeek 9 месяцев назад

I’m here to help if you have questions! Also, for what it’s worth I have a free scale painting guide available that should help: www.thercgeek.com/trcgscaleguide

@johnatkinson6759 3 года назад

Great Video.. Lots of tips and tricks... Looking forward to the cockpit details.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks! Cockpit is the next installment which is just about ready.

@mikenowland2739 3 года назад

Great job Mr Geek 👍 Very informative .

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you!

@-cmafia-7745 3 года назад

Awesome video and great work you're doing.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you!

@bart57000 3 года назад

Amazing, great job!! Can’t wait to see the next posts

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks!

@jaykuster4831 3 года назад

Awesome and informative as always. 😀

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks!

@aerospacematt9147 3 года назад

Just came from watching Top Gun! Man, I love that F-14!

@terry-aprillitts8718 3 года назад

Looks great 👍

@senceralp 3 года назад

When I retire from the Turkish Air Force, I can start my internship with you. 😃🇹🇷 I admire the work you do !

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Haha, yes! Thank you for your kind words 😊

@senceralp 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek 😃You are very kind, my friend. When you make SOLOTÜRK, the whole fleet will be grateful. 🇹🇷

@LastBastionLabs 3 года назад

What a great video! Keep up the great work.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you!

@alext.197 3 года назад

All the way from Oakland california! My son and I are very eager to see the next stage! Once these tomcats are available again on motionRC 🥺 ⌚⏳ My son plans to refer to your series of F-14 refinishing content to do his! 💪🏾👍🏾 Keep the content coming your Amazing!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you so much! I’m so glad it will be helpful. 😊

@boss2234 3 года назад

Grate job good info as always.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks!

@rccowboys 2 года назад

Man, you are my hero. lol. That was so much work and done so meticulously. Great job brotha! Beautiful plane! ;)

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Haha, thanks so much for the kind words!

@captainmax573 Год назад

Thanks for this! I’ve watched these videos multiple times, I’m redoing my F 14 tomcat in the VF 82 ghost squadron. The spackling tip, and the prime sand prime process is going to fix a lot of imperfections in my model. I bought this thing used for 450 bucks, had a receiver, and the afterburner kit. It was worth about $1000 and I bought it for 450 because of the condition it was in. The underside had some asphalt belly landing history and a lot of holes and dents and scratches. Thank god for spackle! It’s going to look great because of you! I appreciate the effort you put in to your videos

@Thercgeek Год назад

Awesome, thank you!

@captainmax573 Год назад

@@Thercgeek any time! I have an important question about it though. The panel lines seem that they might not be filled completely, as in they recess enough for you to feel a texture in it, like less than a millimeter. This is before paint and primer and polycrilic. Once I do all of the refinishing, will they fill in and be smooth? Let me know soon! I am putting on the minwax in a few days.

@s9523pink 3 года назад

Wow, can’t wait to see the next posts!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you!

@verdw6587 3 года назад

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Another great job Chris

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks!

@jprules2578 3 года назад

If I can get my flyer friend to pull the trigger on a F-14 purchase....I'll get to use this info to refinish it.🤩

@spiroskatsikas 11 месяцев назад

Great video Great content ❤

@TheAmishSasquatch 2 года назад

Great work!! I've been planning a hyper detail of my Freewing A-6, for the last few years. Maybe I'll get around to it. It'll be my first RC aircraft.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Thanks! The A-6 is a nice one too, though I wish it was a little bigger. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D5XMIqbUvRg.html

@tonyspears6437 3 года назад

I've been asking about painting foam, thanks for the vid,,

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks for watching! 😊

@charlesrestivo870 3 года назад

Just wanted u to know you are the best review and info for rc airplanes Simply no BS no yelling no useless infromation No cars no trucks No useless banter I've unsubscribed from them all .They all seem to think that they are A major Hollywood director ( there not ) Keep it up the adults enjoy your channel

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thank you so much for your kind feedback!

@boldlionpro2814 2 года назад

Nice work, body work is tedious if you want those good results and it looks good. Thanks for the video. Take care with the spray and inhalation. Peace.

@toysforboysrc 2 года назад

Although I’m new to rc planes, I’ve been an auto body technician for 25 years so I enjoy this part as much as flying. FYI if and when experimenting with paint and body materials, anyones best bet is a local bodyshop supply store in your area. Especially for canned primer. Good ones are is U-Pol, Transtar and medallion for canned primers. It’s also difficult to find the right materials for rc air craft repair materials because there’s not a big market for it. A good way to find useful materials is to search them with the key word Auto Upholstery. That is a huge market and the materials are designed to work with plastics, different foams, rubber, vinyl, glass, wood exc. what ever you can’t find in the auto interior category, you will find it at Michael’s. You’ve been restoring airplanes for quite some time with all your experience, I want to thank you for showing us what you’ve learned restoring rc planes. It’s motivating and encouraging. Question: does the amount of material that goes into a plane on a resto enough to show when flying? Or is it minuscule?

@toysforboysrc 2 года назад

Why 180 on canned primer? Primer is much softer than bondo (body filler). Primer calls for 400-600 grit. Sanding in between coats of primer is easily done with 400 grit. If your using 180 grit for primer because the primer is clogging your sand paper, it’s because the quality of the primer is poor. I noticed you’ve been experimenting with different canned primers., I mentioned 3 brands in my comment, are you familiar with any of them?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I’m not familiar with those primers, I’ll check them out. My favorite primer was the ever coat stuff, but it’s not made anymore. Anyhow, I’m using 180 to knock down the primer quicker. The primer is being used to fill in the micro voids that come from the foam texture to fill that all in. The final primer coat is sanded with 600 grit in preparation for paint. In terms of the weight gain, it varies on the size of the airplane and the amount of material used. This tomcat is the first refinish I’ve done where I did notice the weight gain in flight. Mostly it was in the approach speed being notably faster than prior to the refinish. Unfortunately though, I didn’t weigh the airplane before the refinish, so I don’t know exactly what it was here. Generally speaking, I’ve found that foam airframes tend to fly better after a process like this. The smoother surface and stiffer airframe really help with that.

@toysforboysrc 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek ….. thanks so much for the reply. All this information is valuable especially for myself who’s totally new to flying. Here are autobody grade high build primers.. They “seem” pricy BUT, they are much bigger cans, have more surface build, dry faster & harder, won’t clog your sand paper and most importantly, these primers are “less harsh” on substrates and other repair materials. The solvents in these primers are “less volatile”. You’ll experience less to no reactions like lifting, flaking, sand scratch swelling or any defects that may present in the final paint finish when it comes to multiple layers with different types materials. HERE’S SOME GOOD ONES IVE USED 👇👇 👉 U-Pol Products 0791V Grey HIGH#5 Primer -12 oz a.co/d/c7wIHzv 👉 SEM 42013 Grey High Build Primer - 16 oz. a.co/d/1LUtH2G 👉Transtar 4603 Gray 2-in-1 Primer - 15oz a.co/d/4Yjn72l Stay away from commercialized products! The reason autobody grade materials is sooooo much better than publicly commercialized products is bcs the demand for high quality paint finishes and the performance of the products that accomplish that are in such high demand and there’s tons of competition with dozens of competing body shops and product manufacturers. Excuse my long comments lol but we all know what it’s like talking about what you love, you could talk about your pain all day too I would imagine 😁. Happy to of found your channel! I Do love watching you repair these air planes, it’s so gratifying….. please let me know or do a video trying out any one of these primers. I promises it will change the way you look at primers.

@jonoedwards4195 3 года назад

RC FREAK Already! Great Show, talk about taking Us there Dude. Unreal Stuff, now Your gonna sweat like Desert Storm on its Maiden. Beauty Geek. Itsda Sheeeeeee We love.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Haha, thanks man! No doubt, it’s HOT right now. Good thing I maidened it already a while back. 🤣 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N8ERm_2PonM.html

@enzok6414 3 года назад

I found the Benchcraft hollow rubber wheel to be an easy fit with stock rims. Just need to add some material to the rim to get a tight fit. Robart 3” rubber wheels socket are too big for stock rims.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Good to know! I’m using a 2.75” diameter robart tire which looks and fits about perfectly.

@IJustGotHere 3 года назад

Looks 👍👌🙂👊

@NeedSpeedRC 2 года назад

Another great vid. Question about paint removal. I recently bought an used EFlight F-16 80mm. It’s was repainted to white and then coated in minwax/poly. I want to repaint. Should I use acetone and light weight sandpaper to strip so I can prep for repaint? Thanks.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

You should be able to just paint right over that. If you’re concerned about the weight, then acetone should do the trick in stripping the paint off the airframe.

@Bryan-qx2iy 2 года назад

For fixing filling up ding-up rc foam plane (such as scratches), do you recommend using the Sherwin William sprackling as used in your video or would you recommend the foam tac foam finish filler. Thanks.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I use the sherwinn Williams spackle for that. I’m not familiar with the foam Tac filler, so can’t compare. I’d imagine it would be similar.

@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO 3 года назад

WOW!!! I Didnt Realize you were SOOOOOOOO FAST DUDE!!! 😝😝😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

That’s how I do! 🤣

@NICHOLASRGLORIOSO 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!! "SPEEDY GEEKOLEZ"!!! 😂😂😂

@dutchloveRC 3 года назад

all I can say is WOW

@MayMay-fe2ki 2 года назад

Very good and patient modification. May I know those white material pasted on foamed plane ?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I mentioned it in the vid. It’s the shrink free spackle from Sherwinn Williams. 😊

@PatBALEX 3 года назад

Great job Chris.. Filling in those panel lines really do make it look smoother.. I picked up a few things from you here.. Thanks.. By the way on youtube some guy did put rotating main gear on his FW F-14.. No flying videos yet.. Be a while before I get My FW F-14.. But the wheels in my head are turning... Thank you..

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

I’ve seen a few folks mod that. I personally just didn’t want to spend the time to re-engineer that whole area. I have a 3d printed wing glove pylon that I plan to install to help hide the tires ultimately.

@f1matt 3 года назад

Amazing job on the finish and many mods

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks!

@doctor515 3 года назад

Hi Chris, nice work, If I wanted to use Minwax Polycrylic only to toughen the skin on an EPO model. What gloss level would you recommend? I'd stay away from gloss on a military plane. There is clear matte, clear satin, clear semi-gloss and clear ultra flat ?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Id recommend a satin or flat. Gloss won’t look right on a military aircraft.

@stevestonrcguy5393 2 года назад

Awesome

@stevestonrcguy5393 2 года назад

I may have missed it in the video but what kind of sandpaper do you use on the foam before priming? Thx

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I’m using 180grit to sand the filler down and also for sanding the primer. You want to be careful not to bust through the foam top layer as it will start to whisker if it does.

@FEboats Год назад

Use SEM high build primer. It’s the best stuff from a spray can.

@jaysonfarmer157 Год назад

Hi Chris, would you mind sharing where you get your color schemes and other details (panel lines, rivet locations, etc...) from to do your planes? BTW, bought one of your deflection meters. I am glad I did. Great product! Jayson

@Thercgeek Год назад

Thanks Jayson! When I do a scale project, I spend a lot of time researching online and in books for paint scheme ideas. once I find a paint scheme that I like, I drill down further trying to find whatever information I can on that particular airplane including plastic models and plastic model decals. For panel lines, I search for drawings in a similar way. For the tomcat though, Davao Products has a fantastic book with drawings in it that I used as a panel line reference.

@rickbaker6000 3 года назад

Chris have you ever tried to use lightweight fiberglass to cover a foam plane to protect it from dings. Maybe using epoxy instead of fiberglass resin that would melt the foam.

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

You could do fiberglass, but the polycrylic is just quicker and less hassle.

@darrenpearce5798 Год назад

Hi Chris. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Really enjoy all you videos and content. Do you have any simple tips for removing decals from foam aircraft? How did you do it on the F14?

@Thercgeek Год назад

On this one, I just left them on there and applied the refinish over them. I’ve tried lifting them up with tape with mixed success. I have heard soaking them in vinegar would do it, but I haven’t tried it.

@darrenpearce5798 Год назад

@@Thercgeek thanks Chris.

@dsarnson 3 года назад

Super! Can't wait to see more...Have you tried mod-podge as opposed to polycrylic? I have used it on a couple (less intensive) bashes, and it is nice stuff to prep the surface. Cheers from OH!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Thanks! I’ve heard of mod-podge but I’ve not tried it.

@DadsRCHangar 3 года назад

Amazing Chris, look forward to the next one. I was surprised you didn’t take of the decals, I thought you normally do that. Looks great. So how many hours to this stage you think you did?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

I’ve found the paint jobs now adhere quite well, so I’ve just been doing the prep work over that. In terms of hours, I’m not really sure. It takes a bit of time to get a smooth finish.

@tomoyagerharz4756 2 года назад

Hey Chris, I've started the refinish process on my f15. I was just wondering if the filler primer that you used will cover up any small imperfections that were not covered by the filler (Tiny dents and scratches) or if I should take the time and fill those in too? Also I couldn't find the minwax polycrylic so i'm gonna try and use Varathane polyurethane water based. Just wondering if this is a good brand, or if I should stick with the minwax one. Thanks!

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

The larger dents and dings you’ll want to fill. The primer will only fill the smaller stuff. So, I’ve used glaze putty on that stuff but you can also just use the spackle and spot treat with poly and then primer over that. I haven’t used verathane personally, but I’ve heard good things about it if it’s the stuff I’m thinking of.

@davidgilbert8051 3 года назад

VF84 JOLLY ROGER HERE. I am scale building this bird. I knew Dale!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Very cool! He’s legit my hero, haha

@LeoH3L1 2 года назад

Would it be possible to remove a bit more of the foam and modify the main landing gear to fully disappear in side the fuselage, and maybe add a door?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I think it’s possible, yes. You’d need rotating main gear and then would have to fabricate the doors like the full scale.

@cgross71 Год назад

Hi Chris, just amazing work, very nice. I plan to refinish an Arrows F-86 and will do it like you show here. One question: It seems that you did not strip any vinyl decals from that model, is that correct? Or were that all waterslide decals? Thank you!

@Thercgeek Год назад

Thank you! The decals were all water slides, so it was easier to just leave them on the surface.

@flashted 4 месяца назад

I've been looking for a way to refinish foam. I have a very small 50 mm jet that has waterslide decals all over it that just continually peel off. What kind of Automotive primer did you use that does not attack the foam? I used to cover Balsa with Minwax polyurethane and quarter ounce glass cloth, and then primer it paint it That's a little too heavy for this I thought about using Modge podge, but I don't like the streaks and I think it's a little heavier.

@Thercgeek 4 месяца назад

Which 50mm edf is it? You’ll need to determine if it’s made of epo or eps foam. Epo will allow you to spray it with pretty much any type of primer and paint, however if it’s eps foam, you’ll need to be much more careful. Epo foam is extremely resilient to solvents but eps foam is not.

@tonykeaton5521 Год назад

I know this is an older video but I had a question-the F14 comes with out runner motors…what happens if you had 2 spare 1920KV inrunner motors😮? Would it be too much? Still learning here and I enjoy your knowledge-thank you RC🤘🏽

@Thercgeek Год назад

Well, I’m not sure they’d be a good match for the stock 12blade fans. However, that’s the standard motor for the 9blade fans now, so I’d recommend grabbing a couple of those fans and using them.

@tonykeaton5521 Год назад

@@Thercgeek Hey RC, thank you for the reply and info. Much appreciated🤘🏽

@steelyerface21 2 года назад

do you use the semi gloss, satin, or full gloss for the sealing coat of the polycrylic before primer

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I usually use satin.

@anthonyjayakody3356 Год назад

Hi Chris, do you clear coat after primer as I see you did on the vertical stab section? I’m following your process to repaint my f14 but practicing on a 70mm F16 first. Thanks for your help-Ant

@Thercgeek Год назад

No, that's not necessary. What I did on the vertical tail areas was since I had used some spackle filler there, simply sealed up those areas with Polycrylic to receive the primer better.

@anthonyjayakody3356 Год назад

@@Thercgeek okay I see what you mean. Thanks Chris, that’s great.

@spinnetti 3 года назад

Foam bashing is fun! Where's the air exits from your new NACA ducts?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

The air is drawn into the inlets by the fans. There’s a slot in the foam behind the ESCs just forward of the fan face.

@kylewashington5567 Год назад

I want my f 14 done by you.

@rohnnyvanderstraeten8639 Год назад

Hello Mr Geek, what kind of filler do you use? I damaged my E flight Viper 90 and now want to fill and repaint the glued pieces. Kindest regard from Belgium

@Thercgeek Год назад

I used sherwinn Williams shrink free spackle.

@chuntitan6208 2 года назад

Where do you buy the sherwin Williams spackle from. I seem to be having a hard time locating it. Cant find it for sale online or any info on where to buy it in store. Thanks

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

It can be purchased at a Sherwinn-Williams paint store: www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/products/shrink-free-spackling

@danb7207 2 года назад

Some people watch Saturday/Sunday cartoons. I watch The RC GEEK😂

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Haha, thanks! 🤣😁

@alwaysflying6540 Год назад

I'm about to use the polycrylic matt finish on my F16. I just want to seal the paint and my stickers as well as paint on a bit of trim. Any advice for me?

@Thercgeek Год назад

If you’re looking to just seal the stock finish then you may want to consider just using the spray polycrylic instead. That said, if all you want is a matte finish, there’s always the rustoleum 2x matte clear. It’s pretty good and non-yellowing too. Just a dusting will give you a nice matte sheen.

@alwaysflying6540 Год назад

@Thercgeek I didn't know polycrylic was available in a spray. I have my own spray equipment because I'm an Automotive Painter but was told that if I'm just sealing than I could brush it on in the house with good results. Then I came across these videos of your's. You are a pro with the polycrylic!

@captainmax573 Год назад

My panel Lines might not be filled completely, as in they recess enough for you to feel a texture in it, like less than a millimeter. This is before paint and primer and polycrilic. Once I do all of the refinishing, will they fill in and be smooth? Let me know soon! I am putting on the minwax in a few days.

@Thercgeek Год назад

That’s not uncommon. The issue is the softness of the foam and it lightly compressing while sanding. A lot of that gets smoothed out in the primer/sand process. However, you can always do another pass on the filler. Larger imperfections you definitely want to fill before poly and primer.

@captainmax573 Год назад

@@Thercgeek thanks man! I appreciate it!

@steelyerface21 2 года назад

also another question about the fillers used, what type of lightweight spaclke do you use on the vertical stabs "lightweight spackle" and why do you choose to use it there and then use the 3m filler putty for some of the surface blemish stuff instead? Thanks, great build

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I used the same sherwinn Williams spackle I used on the rest of the airframe. The spackle was used there because the gaps being filled were wider than the 3m glaze putty would effectively fill and it was also easier to sand. The 3m stuff is only just a surface filler for small imperfections mostly and doesn’t have much body to it.

@steelyerface21 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek awesome, dap has a "flexible spackling" that says it can be sanded and painted? would that be something worth possibly using since the foam is in theory flexible and compressible?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

If that’s the stuff from Home Depot, it’s garbage. The sherwinn williams stuff is really good and sands nicely. I’ve tried others that include the stuff with primers in it and they ball up as you sand it. Not the case with sherwinn Williams.

@steelyerface21 2 года назад

Thanks again one last qiestion. I have a dynam 109 i want to repaint. Do you recommend just sanding the stock paint before sealing with the clear minwax or stripping off the old paint entirely? Seems like a major production to remove it all but if its likely to debond all the new paint if i dont then maybe i should. Acetone or just clear over the existing? Thoughts ? Thanks!!!

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I’d recommend skipping stripping the paint. Just prep right over the paint.

@user-id9wh3uy4n Месяц назад

Can this spackle be used to fill in cracks in my fuselage maybe 1/2 inch deep.

@Thercgeek Месяц назад

Yep, it’ll fill that assuming we’re not talking about a large 1/2” deep surface area needing filling. Just allow some extra time to dry fully before sanding.

@PepperPete11 3 года назад

Are you not concerned with the additional weight you are adding to the aircraft? Like that amount of paint, filler, epoxy cover is going to add a LOT. Are you re-enforcing the swing wing mech like many have done? Such as installing the metal plate to prevent body flex?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Improvements could be made, but I’m not concerned. I’ve found that a refinish like this results in a generally better flying airplane. It’s a combination of the smooth surface, the stiffer airframe as well as a little higher wing loading. Though, the fw f14 doesn’t need additional weight, it is what it is to get a nice finish. The model has actually already flown in full paint and it flies great! 😁 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N8ERm_2PonM.html

@mithrandir1313 3 года назад

filling those HUGE cordwise Trenches... are you able to feel a performance improvement?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

The models tend to fly slicker I’ve found and generally better. It’s partly due to the smoothness of the airframe and also the added rigidity you get from the polycrylic.

@anthonyjayakody3356 2 года назад

Hi Chris! I’ve been watching your F14 vids over and over and learning a lot so thanks. I’m about to purchase a Futaba radio, what one would you recommend to allow me to achieve the swing wing spoiler set up you have? I’ll be going from a DX8 to Futaba. Thanks a lot-Ant

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Thank you! To achieve the spoileron and full span flap mod, it requires a minimum of 9 channels. I’m not very familiar with futaba, so can’t say specifically which one, but I’d recommend 10-12 channels to have options in the future. 😊

@anthonyjayakody3356 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek awesome, thanks Chris. I will have a good look to see what 10/12 channel I can get hold off. Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

@tomoyagerharz4756 2 года назад

Hey Chris, I wanted to know what kind of filler and polycrylic you used? I couldn't really understand what you were saying. Really like what you are doing!

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Thanks! I’m using sherwinn williams shrink free spackle for filler and minwax polycrylic (minwax is the brand).

@tomoyagerharz4756 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek Thank you so much. Gonna go refinish a plane now!

@tomoyagerharz4756 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek Hey Chris, I've started the refinish process on my f15. I was just wondering if the filler primer that you used will cover up any small imperfections that were not covered by the filler (Tiny dents and scratches) or if I should take the time and fill those in too? Also I couldn't find the minwax polycrylic so i'm gonna try and use Varathane polyurethane water based. Just wondering if this is a good brand, or if I should stick with the minwax one. Thanks!

@rubencarin 8 месяцев назад

I notice that when you are spraying the primer paint that you are spraying close to the surface, I heard that it'll eat the foam, has to be 12 inches away??? Whats the secret? Is it because of the 4 layers of polycrylic wax? By the way, you always do an awesome incredible work!!!!! My hat's off to you, Brian!!!

@Thercgeek 8 месяцев назад

All of these foam airframes these days are made of epo foam which is extremely resilient to solvents, so melting isn’t an issue with it like it’s with eps (beer cooler) foam. I’ve sprayed any number of paints and primers on epo including lacquers without any problems. The only thing you might run into is some swelling of the foam beads if the paint or primer is applied to wet.

@managerlmw5382 2 года назад

Really does look like a fiberglass model. What was the foam type you used?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Thanks! The model is made of epo foam which is very resilient to solvents.

@managerlmw5382 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek Thanks, Chris! Once again, great tips.

@MMFF00 2 года назад

Can you use this same method on warbirds as well? Or do you prefer the method used in your P-51 refinishing video?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Yeah, this pretty much is the same method. Only difference is that I didn’t strip the paint before starting the refinish.

@MMFF00 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek awesome, thanks! I plan on refinishing my FMS 80mm Super Hornet to a Blue Angels finish and my P-51 is yet to be decided lol.

@MMFF00 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek do you sand the polycrilic before the first coat of primer?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

Yeah, a light sanding with 180 grit sand paper is good.

@MMFF00 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek awesome! Can’t wait to see how great that Tomcat looks when you’re finished!

@williamwallace9427 2 года назад

RIP Dale Snodgrass

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

😢 He was (and still is) an aviation legend!

@tomoyagerharz4756 2 года назад

Hello, I have finished filling my f15. Do I sand after a layer of polycrylic? Or do I just leave it as is? I am very confused.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

If you haven’t already, you’ll need to sand the filler smooth. Once it’s filled and sanded to your liking, then apply the poly coats.

@tomoyagerharz4756 2 года назад

@@Thercgeek Yes I have sanded the filler but I do not know if I am supposed to sand the poly coats down? I am thinking that I shouldn't.

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

I usually just do a light sanding of the final poly coat before primer. Not much more than that.

@edgelineaerialsolutionsllc7615 Год назад

What primer do you prefer the most ?

@Thercgeek Год назад

Duplicolor filler primer is my preference these days which is what I used on this model: amzn.to/3Vv9ST2

@steveneisen6705 3 года назад

Are you making the cockpit files/parts available to purchase?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

I’m still working on that. The website integration I had setup for the files didn’t work and my sla printer is down at the moment. I’ll have at least the parts available by the time the next installment posts.

@chrisr4274 Месяц назад

Do you sand the Minwax in-between coats?

@Thercgeek Месяц назад

I don’t usually.

@drmrjon Год назад

Does the refinish process help keep the foam from popcorning in the sun at all?

@Thercgeek Год назад

No, there's no finish out there that will stop that. It's just the nature of EPO foam unfortunately and how it reacts to heat.

@drmrjon Год назад

@@Thercgeek Have you ever tried applying anything like Zpoxy finish resin to a EPO foam surface, sanding and priming it?

@Thercgeek Год назад

I’ve only used the zpoxy for fiberglassing. I haven’t tried it as a replacement for the poly. The poly is pretty quick and painless. The epoxy would be a little more involved process, but would probably work decently.

@gromitvt10 Год назад

What spackle knife is that? Thanks

@Thercgeek Год назад

It’s an artist palette knife. I use it for applying all sorts of fillers.

@davidgilbert8051 3 года назад

Are the 3D cockpit parts available?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Shoot me an email and I can make that happen. Thercgeek.com/contact

@blbills 2 года назад

How much weight does this add?

@Thercgeek 2 года назад

It really varies quite a bit on the airframe and the airframe size. It also relates to how many coats of primer that are used too. That said, in most cases I’ve found that the models actually fly better following a refinish like this due to the smoother surface and the stiffer airframe.

@drone19730602 3 года назад

How long did this process take ?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

Honestly, I’m not sure. With the modifications made at the same time, it added time. It’s really a function of how smooth you want to make it.

@drone19730602 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek appreciate you taking time to respond

@MACE1-1 3 года назад

Dale Snodgrass ...Vern Snodgrass hmmmmm naaa couldn't be...

@MCsRC777 3 года назад

What got me watching your channel was you working on the sky ray, nothing on that for years, some of us, I think , would like to see the what I consider the real modeler side from you again, filling foam panel lines is getting old. Not hating , foam is gettin old, just saying, Still a great channel!

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

I understand. this F-14 is kind of the last big foam refinish as I want to get back to some of those build projects I’ve had waiting for so long. The challenge I’ve had has been finding a balance between my own projects and the reviews, etc. doesn’t help that my main field with the big paved runway was closed permanently. 😢 now flying larger models requires a much long drive to accomplish.

@AN-ce1nd Год назад

Should have glassed it

@Thercgeek Год назад

For epo, this is quicker and lighter. It it was balsa, glassing all the way.

@Captndarty 3 года назад

All this time and effort on a foamy why not put that onto a fiberglass Tomcat make it perfect and call it a day?

@Thercgeek 3 года назад

All in due time as I have a DCU kit that I’ll be building at some point. This is a more instant gratification process and is a bit quicker than a full build. Also, it is a model I can fly here locally. Unfortunately my primary field with the big 600ft runway was closed permanently, so larger models require a much longer drive now to fly. 😕

@Captndarty 3 года назад

@@Thercgeek Ah solid points.