Reflections on Good Treatment for Psychosis 

The more narcissistic a parent, therapist or society, the more likely they are to pathologise a distressed individual, and resort to giving them medication for emotional and social problems.

My "undefined psychosis" was complaining about my family's narcissistic abuse (gaslighting, triangulation, victim-blaming, flying monkeys...). "You have undefined psychosis because you think you are being abused" "You think you are being abused because you are psychotic" Basically, I was labelled as someone who can't see "reality" for complaining about reality. This is the mental health field at its core.

Very important distinctions! Once people have been exposed to psychiatric care involving Coercion that involves being labeled and diagnosed, forcibly drugged, and having your rights taken away by being put away against one’s will. They have to be healed from that system and their disempowering treatment that usually just obliterates their sense of human trust and can kill their very spirit. Our system of so-called care often creates the very problems it claims to solve. It also only further destroys families in the process.

People who may seem insane may actually be very more sane then to other people who are considered sane.

I knew a guy who was depressed, he was recommended trying an antidepressant. Was on Zoloft for a month, didnt do anything. He was bridged to Prozac. He then had suicidal thoughts, Panic attacks. He was taken to a psych ward. They put him on Haldol, Seroquel and a benzo. Now he has permanent TD, Tardive Dyskenesia and dystonia . Its like Parkinson's on steroids.

I had a case-manager tell me today that she was "proud of me" for agreeing to go for counseling ( to an agency that I've heard only bad things about but the only one my insurance would cover). Her words to me were like a signal that I was going down another dangerous rabbit-hole.

Hi Daniel, what an interesting talk! Having been very anxious, depressed and what they call psychotic myself, and as a result being forcibly put in a closed psychiatric ward for more than three months, I can totally relate to this. The environment I was put in was full of people in great distress, in fact exactly the opposite of the envoronment I needed. I have been in isolation for weeks, which was really traumatising, and, in fact, illegal as well. After coming out of this awful situation, having refused their chemical 'treatment' to a large extent, I thought that what I really needed at that moment was a healthy, loving and nurturing environment, among sane people. It is so good for me to hear that in Scandinavia they actively pursue this approach, as they still have a social system of health care there. I guess it's very unlikely that something like that will ever happen in the US, or even in Holland where I live. I don't think the purpose of a commercialised medical system is really to heal people, but to make money of their suffering, under the guise of 'care'. And I feel the situation in the US is probably even far worse than in the Netherlands. Here there is still some degree of understanding that a system is there to help the people which is, from what I observe, practically totally lacking in the US. The medicalisation of basically social or cultural issues is now really bothersome to me. The pushing, based on lies, of the Covid-jab on such a large scale, even upon people who were unlikely to benefit from it, like even babies and young people, who now sometimes suffer the dire consequences from it, it, in my mind, criminal and unforgiveable. In my own case, I consented to it because they told it this would stop the further spread of the disease. This was a blatant lie. I would not have taken the jab if they had told the truth. Unfortunately, lying for financial gain has become kind of a virtue, after 40 years of neoliberalism. It doesn't seen to lead to any kind of shame anymore. For myself, I have taken the decision to stay away from mainstream medicine as much as possible, and to not trust so called authorities and experts any more. I think I might live longer, healthier and happier doing so. Thanks for this one Daniel.

Treating psychosis with anti-psychotics sounds a lot like treating intense limb pain with strong pain-numbing medication (which can also cause severe stomach issues) instead of fixing the source of the pain, e.g. a nerve trapped between displaced vertebrae. At least in this case there's the excuse that nerve-related surgery is still in its infancy and is risky. It also reminds me of how there are a lot of over-the-counter drugs which reduce fever, coughing and runny nose during illness while those are actually the ways the body combats disease, not the disease itself. People focus on treating symptoms because it's so much easier than to actually look deeper.

Wow! Daniel, I just came across your videos and I love your perspectives on the mental health industry! I used to be a licensed psychologist and now I'm just a regular "counselor" who specializes in human performance coaching. I was so tired of the bs from APA and the incessant push of the medical community to place my patients on drugs and psychiatry that I decided to go into another field. Thanks for the inspiration!

Hey Daniel! I appreciate you My gf has been on anti psychotics for 17years She was on 234mg of invega Now we are on 78mg She is experiencing lots of withdrawals Weve been gradually reducing for the past 2 years.. We are doing everything in our power to go about this in every way possible! Not so much trauma therapy since it could be pricey... By the way we are confident and happy about our journey ! I’ve been documenting all of this journey

"wildtruth" is wildly transcendent! Thanks for being wild, Daniel. One of the best quotes ever about "psychosis" is recorded in "Anatomy of an Epidemic" on page 341, where Tapio Salo (Keropudas Hospital) says, "Psychosis does not live in the head. It live in the in-between of the family members . . ."

The Sweden healthy home living sounds fantastic. I can see where that would be absolutely healing.

You need to get more views asap

Living in a country (U.S. here) with bad overall mental health is bad for anyone’s mental health, but what passes for treatment here is even more appalling. I could fill volumes with personal anecdotes of friends and family. In my own case, I experienced multiple episodes of psychosis which landed me in the hospital and the psychiatric system. Antipsychotics were a truly hellish experience. Near complete loss of will, persistent anhedonia, and too many other effects to list here. I did not perceive a single benefit. I took myself off them against advice, struggled at first, then made a full recovery. I wish I could say I benefitted from therapy as I do believe it can work with the right therapist, but I don’t feel I did. The right move would have likely been to seek a different therapist, but I lacked the will to have even a mild confrontation. All in all, my experiences with our mental health system have left me thoroughly disillusioned. The resources that helped the most mainly came from the internet, this channel included. Life now is more beautiful than ever. I’m the happiest I’ve ever been. My career is going well and I’m in a loving relationship. That seems to be in defiance of expectations here, which is truly sad.

Daniel Mackler, you are such a gift and jewel. I'm so glad you exist.

I've seen and loved all three of the videos, and often refer to them, I think its about time I watched them again, I haven't watched Take These Broken Wings, for a while, and will look at it again now.

If the psychosis isn’t due to underlying infection / inflammation ( which happens a lot and goes undetected ) - then these programs are perfect . Our American mental health system is a big, fat , well-funded disaster . I have been in the field (LCSW) for 30+ years . I appreciate these videos . You are spot on . Socialized mental health services here would not/ do not look like this because our government is in bed with many pet industries , big pharma being one of them . We would end up with stupid bureaucrats administering stupid , wrong , and expensive “evidence based “ care , which is not care at all .

You are saying things I knew to be true for many years but had no one to validate my beliefs. Thank you!!!

what I can remember is, at my first episode I could feel I have to avoid the treatment of the healtcare system because all I wanted was to reconnect with people after all what happend... It s like I was already knowing that psychosis is not a problem to fix inside my brain but a problem between me and others ... unfortunatly I finally acepted to take those medication because it was all the care I was offered here... no psychotherapie, no family therapy, ...Then I discovered The open dialogue approach with your documantary, and I was like "I knew it"! To say, even if they are suffering deeply with psychotic break, people can feel, they can know what they need but unfortunatly the medical care system is absolutly unable to listen to them properly, here in france

I was in a relationship with someone who has schizophrenia for 7 years. I thought my love would help him but it never did. It was 10 years ago. So I began to think there was nothing to do about it. It seemed he didn't wanted to do something about it except taking medication or drinking alcohol. He hurted me so much I had to go. I thought then that was a part of the mental illness. Now when I'm listening to you, it's bringing me back to all this and I wonder could it have been any different?

Oh my goodness. What you said about the meds making someone numb, and taking away passion & motivation .. speaks HUGE facts. This is exactly what my husband has experienced. He was in and out of a psych facility 3 times when he was transitioning out of the army .. it made things 100 times worse. He was separated from me, his only support at the time. Family thought he was trying to just get a medboard out of the army. Therapists told him things were just "in his head" or said hurtful/judgemental comments to him. That was about 4 or 5 years ago. He had been juggling his meds, debating if they are the real answer to his healing. Currently he has been about 6 months med free, and i can see a positive difference. It makes me so sad knowing that if he had just gotten the help he needed early on, things would have been very different. Its like it just kept digging at the wounds. Thanks for you intelligent insight, doctor. ♡

Daniel I am learning a lot from your videos, thank you for all of your work.

What a lovely video and great concepts. I hope our country can take some of these resources and methods to improve our mental health.

Amazing, I wished the mental health field thought the same way and found better solutions in my country. I feel very unmotivated with the medication, thanks for helping make sense of it’s effects on me, I feel disconnected and calm in an unusual way in comparison with when I wasn’t on the medication 😔

This video verifies my lived experience. I went through a terrible trauma and had a psychotic break. I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder hospitalised and put on antipsychotic medication. At the same time I was not believed when I told my story. I am in my 60s now and still trying to wean myself off the medications after years of struggle to live with the sedating affects of them not to mention the physical side effects such as weight gain. I have managed to halve the dose in 6 years but my brain has been so altered by these drugs that I now have hyperactive symptoms when I lower the dose that I did not have as a young person before I was medicated.

I was basically able to do the supportive family thing in the USA through living with my boyfriend and his parents. It DOES work. Another important piece was taking an advocate to Dr appointments. I was able to regain some of that belief that I could actually get well, and then did. Mood stabilizers and antipsychotics were not a good intervention for me. Great video David!

So inspiring, so eye-opening! Love you! Well done❤

Hi Daniel. I was treated for psychosis 10 years ago and medication helped me a lot. Yes, you are right, being kept in hospital was traumatising and the treatment could be done in much more humane way. But, also, I believe at that time I needed meds for functioning of my brain and I think it was necessary. The doctors reminded me multiple times not to go off my meds and now I am glad that I did listen to them. (Of course, you never know what would happen if I made different decisions, the scenario might be the same). Just want to point out, each case is different and neuroleptics were a right solution in my case.

Further more I firmly believe psychosis to be a response to severe distress caused by having too many assholes in your life and Daniel you are right, love and compassion are the cure.

Thanks for the work, sir. Four months out the controlling clutches of the nacissistic female after 15 years. Your videos help.

I love your work Daniel! Watched your documentary about the Swedish program (I am Swedish)... looked really good. So sad these are not more widely implemented. Same goes for the finnish method. Everyone should be looking at these projects and be inspired, right? Keep up your work!

you speak the truth, why aren't there more doctors doing this. Any therapies you would recommend for OCD? That seems to be so hard to treat. My son has had years and years of therapy but it still rules his life

You are def on point! I'm so disappointed in the lack of integrative mental health programs in the US. Even when you know and want to do the best natural treatment by yourself, it can be next to impossible to access.

Daniel, I get a wow moment during all of your videos. This time it was your insight into who are the drugs for? Everyone would always assume that it’s for the patient, right? But of course you are right, often it’s to save society or the mental health system from having to confront uncomfortable reactions. F

I’m so grateful that you refreshed some attention to your earlier work for new people discovering you... dialogue understanding acceptance action🦋🕊

I know he does, he became the parent I never had! You've got good taste, congrats! Thanks again and you're welcome! Take care and love back at you!

I highly recommend CBD and Pregnenolone both for anyone experiencing psychosis. Pregnenolone in particular has allowed a close friend to stay off risperdal which was ruining her life. Love ya Mackler!

Often the sufferers come from dysfunctional families with emotional, sexual and physical abuse. I'm not sure if the open dialogue would be possible in this case. To involve abusers in the therapeutic process is to overcome their denial. It'd be great to have an open dialogue in the treatment community to break the social stigma and reduce the meds.

Hi Daniel. Thanks a lot. You gave me the best advice about how to deal with a son who is having a psychotic time.

Thank you for your honesty

I'm conflicted, I've been thinking about takings meds or not, I've done them before and sadly they were the only thing that actually gave me peace, on the contrast, how you said in the video the same things that motivates me has to "dissapear" since everything that made me take a desition on this life has been trough disconfort or some sort of pain, my motivations are good but they hurt like hell, and the only thing that frees me from that, makes me kinda functional but puts to sleep everything that I'm. I'm scared and confused, I've been feeling alone and unproductive (more than ever), it hurts me but I can't take anything else from this life, everything that I'm has never been pleasent or rational or rewarding whatsoever and I'm tired.

Great video, Daniel how about now making one on the trappings of Christmas & holidays if you are so inclined. I would appreciate your thoughts on that!😌

Wow amazing video. So many people need to hear this message! So glad you put this up. Oh my goodness.

Would you make a video on ocd, intrusive thoughts, and phobias? Would be cool to see a bipolar type 1 and 2 segment as well.

Thank goodness for my personal inner strength which was strong enough to lead me out of the backwards toxic barbaric mainstream garbage system (i was one year in) and into a long scary full of panic attacks and many other debilitating scary symptoms but I made sure to keep the option of going back on meds off the table permanently no matter how bad it got. I would walk it off no matter what time of day or night (Very thankful to my what I now call zenwalks =)) Not having the option of taking toxic drugs has lead me to persist in finding answers and not giving up till I did. Unfortunately, not everyone will persist, especially when on drugs as they end up becoming addicted/crutch. Ruining their lives and their loved ones are much affected =( I'm doing my part by helping spread my experience =)

Thank YOU for existing 💐

"they are both on the internet, they are both free [...]" instant like

They are helping everyone but the patient.

Good mental health treatment is totally dependent on whether or not you can afford effective therapy.

Great video!!! But, what if a person with "pyschosis" doesn't have psychosis and has been falsely diagnosed because of the family's and friends' need to satisfy their own projection of what the person's life should be like? I have been through this, but I don't think I have psychosis. Its my fight or flight response to what is known as false negatives. I see a potential situation where I could get screwed and I withdraw from it, because that's what my life experience has been. I have a terrible time trusting people, over the years I have gone from 100% trusting to being 100% skeptical of what people (family and unknown people such as shop keepers, or my psychiatrist, I no longer have friends) say to me and as far as possible I tend to fact check everything. I've been on psychiatric medication for 10 years now and I'm fighting an addiction to them. I've been switched from one psychiatric medication to another several times and to offset their side effects been given further medication which is just stupid (why put me on medication with side effects in the first place?). I have been a chronic insomniac for several years, and have had to fall back on psychiatric medication (for a long time I even fell back on weed as the medicines weren't helping me sleep in any way) for sleep. I was for a long time working in work environments that involved changing shifts, which screwed up my circadian rhythm. I still use psychiatric medication to get sleep.

Not in my area. I have OCD but I've been given mood stabilizer and I felt like my insides had tree thorns in me. I had a break of sorts , but would project out to stop my mental breakdown. SSRI yes. Mood. Meds f me up.

THANK U SO MUCH

God bless you

great video

Hi Daniel. Thank you for another great video. I wanted to ask for your opinion on a supplement called Lithium Orotate. I just placed an online order for 5mg dosage to help with PTSD and OCD in form of rumination. 100's of reviews were mostly positive. I am hoping it will work

Hey Daniel, what's your view of psychedelics (in general) and if you have experience on them, would you do a video about 'em? Thanks!

Makes damn good sense.

I’m in withdrawal from DM videos. Perhaps you should do a video on how we could cope with that. F

perhaps a not well known cause of psychosis has to do with a person’s spirit/aura being overloaded with compounded residues of unconscious feelings ( spiritual residues ) which all people absorb to some degree yet certain individuals absorb more of these unconscious feelings than others, due to a variety of reasons that have to do with the person’s psychic abilities and feeling capabilities in general along with whether or not the person has been able to feel and receive loving touch ( such as during a therapeutic massage ) ... and there are other aspects as well such as whether or not this person is being projected upon by others through telepathic communication ( this is very challenging to explain yet there are feelings that exist within our overall consciousness that are denser than energy ) eventually feelings must be felt and received consciously and expressed openly, thus verbally, yet there are those who are being affected by feelings that really have nothing to do with their actual life; they are from history ( from past memories from the unconscious) thus the person is not able to make sense of why they are feeling what they are feeling, plus these feelings are usually in a very reactive state, making the person feel out of control. They need to yell yet they are afraid of going berserk and restrict their natural expression since they can not make sense of the angst they are struggling with. psychically they can be experiencing impressions in their inner world ( with their eyes shut ) that can also be upsetting to them since there are “images” along with feelings that do not match their basic reality. gas pains and physical body pains can coincide with their episodes of psychosis their spirit is in turmoil and they need grounding through loving touch with presence and also through connecting with water as in bathing and also drinking water helps too. They must be able to speak and share words or sounds with open eyes and with eye contact with a caring supportive person who can receive them and guide them to also breath and relax and slow down, yet sometimes it is necessary for the person to be able to thrash about with pounding and kicking in a safe environment (that can facilitate such expressions of the body)

Does anyone know other channels like his?

Hi Daniel, go to Dr Breggin's channel where he talks about more natural means to healing. He discuses how they end up being considerably worse in violent tendencies and goes to court as a pyschiatric expert on his conclusions! I guess great minds think alike, congrats! Take care and thanks!

I wonder if we could have these programs in Australia ? With Australian families ?

Medication. Saved my life

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What do you have to do to get out of off the system? I have been on it since 2020 August and on in psychosis intervention prevention spring 2021

Normal is very risky!

Do you use the terms psychosis and schizophrenia for the same thing?

Also, mental health pros can be sued for not prescribing them. They are now trained that they must offer meds as an option.

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia.

Can u post the video you made?

Hi Daniel. My daughter is 5. After 5 she has changed. Doctors said that it is psychoses. She has drunk solean...but it didn't help her. After it she has drunk invega..and invega made side effect...I took her to hospital and they gave her other drug which is used for side effect. Dugs dpesn't help her. She is suffered. Crying or laughing herself. Her speech is disconnecting. ..Please can you recomment something for children....Thanks in advance.

I want to move to Sweden

I sent you a friend request don't know if you got it?

And for those who have suffered for years with no professional help? I went a couple times and almost had a diagnosis of schizoaffective but left and never returned.

✨❤️✨How I wish I could get REAL help for my brothers. All they get is pills & pills...😪

Is there any logistics on long time anti-psychotic users? I’m 36 been horribly taking Risperdal since I was 26.. I’m talking drinking heavily and skipping meds.. then I went cold turkey for 3 months, got hospitalized and the psychosis been worse ever since. They rarely talk about hope for 10 + year users. Is there no hope?

Do people with psychosis taking anti psychotics long term live 25 years less than average life span of people with psychosis not on anti psychotic drugs or compared to average lifespan of the entire population healthy people included?

How can I find a family😢

My daughter is inental health just diagnosed paranoid schizophrenia please help me is there anywhere in the UK or even abroad I could send her x

Hi, I can't find another place to contact you. So I'll post this as a public comment. I've been watching your videos in large part because I'm writing this weird little screenplay about this subject. It's more along the theme of positive disintegration. If you would have any interest in reading such a thing, I'd give my eye teeth for your thoughts.

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Normal people scare me.

The lack of proper diagnoses, where I was really overwhelmed and emotional but it was not a full on psychosis as diagnosed for me This video has a lot of misinformation, mainly people put on antipsychotics have much worse symptoms and it needs to be for myself when i am psychotic to receive haldol as needed but i should not be put on it or kept on the antipsychotics like doctors think. i'm hearing auditory hallucinations again and breaking electronics . mirrors.

Wish I were Swedish.

If by stable they meant a corpse they accomplished that.

Psychosis is extreme sleep deprivation IMO.

You speak often of the true self or true nature. Is it your opinion that a horse's true nature is to be wild and free or bridled and trained? It seems we believe our true nature can not be realized without training of some sort to bring out the hidden potential. Perhaps the true nature is just that we all have hidden potential. I would say the true nature of man is to discover the true nature of God! The true nature of man, or of horse, is then in reference to what is ultimately true and not just subject to finite potentials.

I had a P.A.R.T. license to restrain. After most patients who go through real psychotic reactions are drugged or/ or restrained- they say they would rather be restrained. The drugs disallow them to respond. We don’t usually do both(of course.) for safety reasons it isn’t appropriate protocol. But, yes afterwards most people prefer a cloth restraint to drugs. Why do we do it-because other wise they beat the hell out of us. (not fun or funny) violent offenders are not so great do cope with.

Scientology vibes...

I know this video is old and I've never suffered through psychosis. However I have suffered through depression and I still have moments of apathy and pain in my life. I also have in the past and currently had to deal with and overcome anxiety. I took several of the poisons known as SSRIs and SNRIs. I have to wonder if the chemical lobotomies I took set back my path of healing back by several years.

Why don't I believe this guy