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Refoam, Rebuild and Test EV RE20 Microphone Video #3 

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@JonAnderhub
@JonAnderhub 2 года назад
I can't thank you enough for undertaking that rebuild. I can see why you hate doing it, but I'm really grateful that you did.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
Super cool, let me know if ya do a rebuild and how it goes for ya!
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ 2 года назад
Nice job Dave. I was talking to Bob Heil about the RE20 and he sniggered "all marketing" (laughing) but it's not - as you proved. I use one for all my videos, hence my interest.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
The real beauty of the RE20 is the lack of resonances. There is very little LF coloration from rear chambers or heavy diaphragms that manufacturers use to add LF. So many dynamic mics add a bong or a woof sound, the RE20 is warm and smooth sounding.
@DXCommanderHQ
@DXCommanderHQ Год назад
@@DaveRat Yep.. I use RE27 too for another application (Live shortwave ham radio) and it works fine but too much punch for me. RE20 fine but I still need to lift me up at around 2k. Anyway.. good luck.. I enjoy your fun and games!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Cool cool yeah those re mics are great for keeping the low end tame when you get close and far
@lincolnmicrophonellc
@lincolnmicrophonellc Год назад
Definitely not all marketing, it's patented(expired) 60 year old technology is still among the best.
@ne2i
@ne2i 10 месяцев назад
Good to see you here Callum. You have great audio on here and on the air.
@aarontuchardt7540
@aarontuchardt7540 Год назад
They sell RE20 re-foam kits on eBay. $20 a piece but it’s high quality OEM like foam that really fits well. Great video! Thanks!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
👍👍👍
@paulk.dicostanzo2279
@paulk.dicostanzo2279 2 года назад
Nothing like watching Microphone, MD performing surgery on one of my all-time favorite mics! Cheers, Dave!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
Thank you Paul!!
@grvoices
@grvoices 11 месяцев назад
Dave, thank you. It's my weekend to repair foam rot on the RE20 and AT825. Not looking forward to RE20 but your video was a great roadmap. Thanks again.
@IceManGav1
@IceManGav1 10 месяцев назад
Well thank you for getting me back into Electronics repair! Something satisfying about being able to own something yiu restore yourself. Great work!
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby Год назад
I've had good luck using AC-filter foam on mics when they needed some love.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Good idea
@boeing757pilot
@boeing757pilot 8 месяцев назад
Could you please explain what AC-filter foam is? Thanks!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 8 месяцев назад
Air conditioner filter.foam It's open cell, inexpensive and should work well. Like the thin foam that is on the intake of a wall mount ac unit
@boeing757pilot
@boeing757pilot 8 месяцев назад
@@DaveRat oh, okay! Thank you for that info!
@peehandshihtzu
@peehandshihtzu 2 года назад
Wow the end product sounded great. TBH I would have screwed it all up, even with the clear expert instruction, LOL. So cool, thanks Dave! :)
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
👍🤙👍
@lincolnmicrophonellc
@lincolnmicrophonellc Год назад
Very well done sir 🙏 Regarding your "honky" mic: sweep the filter circuit's frequency response and look for a deep notch where you are hearing the honk, if you don't see that notch in the passive eq that is why it sounds "honky." It's very possible the diaphragm is stuck, sometimes they can be unstuck sometimes the diaphragms are too far gone/damaged. Sometimes it's the voicecoil itself that is starting to fall out of shape or is pinched in the gap in those cases it's new voice coil time. Sometimes it's debris in the gap preventing the coil from moving and holding the diaphragm in a restricted state. This debris is often the old glue crust from the adhesive which used to hold the pole piece to the magnet. Microphone won't pass a freq response within limits (might still sound good) if not air tight. HPF components are the inductor only. If it goes open it can be rewound with #40AWG magnet wire, fill the bobbin. Less turns less rolloff more turns more rolloff. Modern PCB version can be rebuilt too but less common to fail. If microphone is in permanent "rolloff" check that the switch isn't stuck closed. There are better ways to route the wires than the factory method of folding them up in the rear cup making future disassembly much easier with zero downside in performance. Blue loctite 243 on the 9/64 rear cup screw may or may not help with accidental twisting when installing/removing from a 309a. That aluminum triangle bracket is really soft, don't over torque that screw or you will crack and break it. The name dB is great 🥰 2020 put me years, literally years behind in repairs but I'm slowly catching up.... sorry everyone. Surely if you've watched this video you can appreciate the effort that it takes to repair, and sometimes it doesn't go this smoothly as Dave makes it look easy ☺
@Edwin-van-der-Putten
@Edwin-van-der-Putten 2 года назад
Wow! Dave, thanks for another great video! 🙂
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
Thank you Edwin!!
@clicks59
@clicks59 Год назад
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Dave. I recently purchased one of these that has that RE20 rattle. Your videos are super helpful!
@thizzyglider555
@thizzyglider555 Год назад
Looks like your new adventure is to design a new microphone. 👍
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
That would be fun
@SNDTEK1
@SNDTEK1 2 года назад
I have a pair of them , early 80s vintage that need to be gone through.....great vid , it will help when i decide to torture myself LOL
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
🤙🤙🤙
@Pentti_Hilkuri
@Pentti_Hilkuri Год назад
That mic has quite some Mickey Mouse engineering using rotting foam to keep parts in place. =)
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Yeah, and it's hard to know what sorting will do in 20 years. I'd hope they change the foam type to last better
@mnicholson2003
@mnicholson2003 2 года назад
Sweet clip!! :Loved this series!!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
👍👍👍
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby Год назад
I can agree that the mic's design is brilliant..........BUT that's certainly a chore to service it.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
👍👍👍 DeadKoby
@meistudiony
@meistudiony Год назад
This is a great series man. Appreciate the insight. Is modern foam better formulated to not turn into deth dust? Just wondering if this is going to be a recurring issue in the future if the mic was recently refoamed. Thanks again!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Not sure but I know we now do have better foams available
@dokerz
@dokerz Год назад
I want to do the same with my sm58s and other handheld mics, but I fear I'd break something... I have light foam, I believe it came from a PC motherboard box. Would that be ok? Hope you'd make a video, it seems simple enough to do but a video from you would give me the courage. The degraded foam is annoying, I'd like some high end back on my mics :) ..Thanks for making this video
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Probably buying some cheap or original Shure replacement grills will get you mostly there easily. As far as foam on the capsule, dav with damp paper towel , don't let water seep to the diaphragm.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 2 года назад
I guess you could call it the shoe of microphones since everybody needs them, but some prefer better ones.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
🤙👍🔧
@TheManLab7
@TheManLab7 2 года назад
Is that a green screen at the start with the desk's behind him?
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
It's a giant high resolution print of a picture I took of the console I was mixing Chili Peppers on
@lincolnmicrophonellc
@lincolnmicrophonellc Год назад
@@DaveRat thanks for sharing that bit of history with us
@JulianAbreu
@JulianAbreu Год назад
great video, what about the one that was dead? unfixable?
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Everything is fixable, just a matter of cost and time. But yeah, will save for parts.
@dlcarburetor
@dlcarburetor 2 года назад
That old foam is nasty to deal with but the result of the repaired mic feels good don't it
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
👍👍👍
@michaelheitmanek6290
@michaelheitmanek6290 Год назад
does anyone know what kind of screw connects the XLR conector to the housing on the bottom?
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 Год назад
Any thoughts on the EV PL6?
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Oooh, pl6. I kind of realcall those being a newer less expensive version of the RE10 in a cast shell rather than steel tube housing?
@ToddDolce
@ToddDolce Год назад
Can you recommend anyone or company that can perform a refoam on the RE20's that is near Memphis, Nashville or Cincinnati? I would gladly pay for someone that is experienced in doing these just to get mine refreshed. Mine does NOT have the rattle though so that at least is a good thing.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
Oh my yeah I don't know anyone and I sure don't like doing it. I'm sure EV Will do it but if you're careful you should be able to handle it
@djaitchb
@djaitchb Год назад
Hi Where I can view the dismantling process
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
ru-vid.com/group/PLqsPeTx2oVyexKnh-IJc7IXs91RUcmlVI
@djaitchb
@djaitchb Год назад
Found it!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
👍🔧👍
@JRaze
@JRaze 2 года назад
Would you be able to rebuild a PL20 for someone?
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
Hmmm, I hate working in those mics! I am good with showing how but not worth me doing it again
@JRaze
@JRaze 2 года назад
@@DaveRat Yeah I figured but thought I'd ask anyways lol, picked up a PL20 and the foam was crumbling out the mic on arrival
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
Take a dive into it!
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 2 года назад
Annnnd… It’s ready for handheld use once again!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
👍👍👍
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 2 года назад
Don’t laugh too hard. In 1977, I recorded Betty Wright live in Miami hand holding an SM7. She was such a sport and was rewarded for her efforts with a platinum record. We remained friends til the end. ❤️
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
That's awesome!
@IvanTheUndertaker
@IvanTheUndertaker Год назад
Going off topic, but still on the subject of mics designed to minimise proximity effect, why did AKG discontinue, or not update, the D202 / 224 / 222 range? I like them very much. Does anyone still have a working D224? I've got a couple of 202s.
@ralflang5524
@ralflang5524 Год назад
yes i have one, sounds great..
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
🤙👍
@ralflang5524
@ralflang5524 Год назад
great vid! i tried to fix one some time ago, got almost as deep as you do but still have a noise issue with it, so i guess it might be a problem behind the capsule, can anybody give some hints? THX
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Год назад
What kind of noise?
@ralflang5524
@ralflang5524 Год назад
@@DaveRat some buzzing sound like some electrical component wasn't connected right, also i didn't know how to open it and as far as i remember there is one copper coloured wire that was torn and i didnt know how to connect it.. I dont have it here right now but your video inspired me to look over it again...
@p.audio.
@p.audio. 2 года назад
🎤🎧
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
🔧🔧🔧
@p.audio.
@p.audio. 2 года назад
@@DaveRat It was a nice job! Her voice got so much better! We are always learning something new!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
Very cool!!
@p.audio.
@p.audio. 2 года назад
Woow 🙈😀🌸🎶
@p.audio.
@p.audio. 2 года назад
@Text Me On Telegram-Dave-Rat 1981terekibalazs@gmail.com
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 2 года назад
oh , the 6:35 hot glue . reminds me of the dreadful oscars this year with west side story and someone had birds-nest hot glued to her head ? well wacky oscar rich people . never repair fix microphone before all those behringer ECM8000 and the clones they seem have brittle mic that seems made of diecast metal ? and one snapped in half . flipping cheap chinese garbage
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
I can't see a Beringer mic being worth fixing
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 2 года назад
@@DaveRat same with them all . are they all/each made of diecast metal that is so brittle or some carbon moulded plastic ?
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 2 года назад
No, the build quality of these and many mics is amazing. The Re20 is a rugged steel that is strong but can rust if the paint chips and exposed to moisture the 441 is cast but the metal is quite strong for the intricate structure. Many mics are machines brass. Cheaper mics tend to be rugged mics mics like nice watches are well built and rugged but also delicate
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