*For anyone wondering where the 4D remake can be watched:* *You can view the full 10 minute film on the special features of the Rudolph DVD or Blu-ray (2018 Release). Here's a link or you can get it at your local Walmart. -* www.amazon.com/Rudolph-Red-Nosed-Reindeer-Burl-Ives/dp/B07GRCZW5T/ref=asc_df_B07GRCZW5T/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312239736139&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5037725146034076592&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028727&hvtargid=pla-566835334260&psc=1
The original version didn't show Santa delivering the Misfit Toys, the first time it aired. There were so many complaints from people asking what happened to them, that the closing credits were completely redone for the 1965 airing. Billie Mae Richards' name was misspelled in them.
I believe the original broadcast ended immediately after the Peppermint mine scene. On current home media releases the two endings are spliced together. It's so extremely well done, that you can't even tell that they were originally two separate conclusions. I want the original full color credits on gift boxes restored, and THEN we will have the "true" version of the special.
@@ronratcliffe2219 You got it backwards, Misfits is the original song, it was used in the 1964 broadcast, The 1965-'97 airings replaced it with Fame And Fortune. Misfits was restored to the special in 1998. I
@@ronratcliffe2219I totally agree that "Misfits" fits the story better. It explains why Hermey's and Rudolph's Misfit solos are so brief, it was a buildup to a full fledged musical number. When I heard the restored Misfit song for the first time, it all made sense from then on. Now hopefully the original gift box closing in full color can be found and finally we'll have the "real" version of the Rudolph Special.
Three of the original "Rudolph" voices lived at the Performing Arts Lodge in my neighbourhood: Billie Mae Richards, Paul Soles, and Alfie Scopp. Billie died several years ago. We lost Paul and Alfie in the past year. They were the last two surviving cast members. None of the cast got a penny in residuals since 1969, because standard contracts in the 1960s only lasted for 5 years. Nobody imagined "Ruudolph" would still be commercially viable (and extremely lucrative) for 57 years...and counting.
Both Corinne Conley (Misfit Doll/ Rudolph's mom) and Carl Banas (Head Elf) are still around, at the end of 2021. And also, producer Jules Bass is still with us.
Patte, agreed that it's a bummer that the residuals petered out fairly rapidly. But as you say, no on expected anything more past those five years. However, I like to think "Rudolph" still paid dividends by giving the voice talent a 'calling card' that they could use for many years to get more gigs.
I was born five years after Rudolph first aired, and have watched it every year of my life since. It's the reason I got a super 8mm camera, projector, and editing machine when I was 11 years old. It's also the main reason I got into the animation industry. It's a classic that can never be touched. It is perfection. It is magical, and its charm is a direct result of its flaws. While I can appreciate the technology that went into this project, I think it would have been better suited putting those efforts into something fresh and new. You simply don't mess with classics. It looks nice, but it will never look or sound like Rudolph. It's just a slick imposter that no one asked for. Kids today deserve the same Rudolph we grew up on. The same one that inspired these great artists in the first place. That is the magic of Rudolph.
I grew up with these being on in holiday rotation in the 80s. I've always thought they were fun, even as a kid I didn't feel these were "sacrosanct" specials.. to me they were just "what was on" during the holidays... and personally I preferred the Peanuts xmas special over these. I get the nostalgia we have over them.. the designs.. the quirky wonkiness of the animation... etc.. but times have changed. The imperfections that we grew up with and find endearing probably won't play to the kids you want to impress today, and modern airings probably wouldn't respect the 4X3 aspect ratio of old tv shows.. so youd get a badly cropped widescreen hack job if it. Look at it this way... the old versions will still be there... but if noting else.. this is keeping the tradition and spirit of it going, just in widescreen 4K.
@@DanJackson1977 - " but times have changed. The imperfections that we grew up with and find endearing probably won't play to the kids you want to impress today" _________________________________ I think you grossly underestimate the interests, gratefulness, and imagination of the minds of children. Technology has changed, but the human mind and its quest for entertainment, no matter how raw or refined, has not. If what you are trying to imply were true, these shows wouldn't still be airing every year (in their original 4x3 aspect ratio), almost sixty years later. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m3bJxsASyOQ.html
The original still exists. As long as they aren't trying to make it seem like their version is the only one, it's fine. I implore studios to remake things because if they aren't up to snuff against the original, they'll lose money and won't do it anymore
What I love about the original stop-motion animation specials & movies... they are flawed, they can be corny, they can be jerky, you can see the artificial "otherness" of the scene and movement. What I love about "perfect", smoothed out and too many frames per second new stop-motion animation... that people are so awe-struck by the old animation that they are still tinkering with it half a lifetime later. Other than that, I applaud that they are paying tribute to a classic from true geniuses of our time, but I'll stick with the originals. Thanks!
Thank you for keeping it pure. Fond, fond memories of Rudolph and the gang. Watch it every year, since the mid 1960’s. Classic iconic American Christmas story.
I was 9 years old when I first watched it back in 1964. The show is very dear to me as well. I watched it on Christmas Eve.. Brought back beautiful memories' of Christmas's from a long time ago. When my beautiful parents, Grandmothers, Aunts & Uncles, etc. I was 4 years old when my Dads dad passed, and My Moms Dad passed before I was born. Im sure I'll meet them all in Heaven one day.. ✝💒🧡🎶🎅🏿
The original remains a true Christmas time classic. A very special holiday special! Although I am glad to see that it is still being kept in the public eye by whatever it takes to do so. The 4D version looks good as well. Although the original version will always be the one dear to me since childhood all the way up to this very day.
I was six years old when this came out and even now it just doesn't seem like Christmas unless we watch Rudolph along with the other classic 1960's holiday programs.
I would have preferred you kept the original Burl Ives voice. You didn't change the dialog, so it would have been truer to the original to have included him. He's just as beloved as the others. He's the one telling the story.
I get why they redid that. Because they added scenes they have to redo all the voices. Burl Ives was recorded using analog 60s equipment so switching between his voice and others would break the illusion. Plus there’s the legal issues of using a dead man’s voice in a new production.
I appreciate the talent, effort, and dedication of these folks, but the Rankin/Bass version is better. Maybe I'm just a purist, but the 4D version just looks too CGI for my liking. UPDATE: I can't believe I have to edit this to clarify a simple opinion. I am fully aware that this is in no way CGI. I only used that term for lack of a better one. To me, and this is only MY opinion, it has that over computer-generated CGI-ish feel to it. I like it for it's artistic value and the obvious dedication to the OG. It's just that, personally, I happen to prefer the OG. Thanks for all the likes ❤️🦌
IT'S NUTS the amount of time and detail going in to each frame! To even know how many frames it will take to go from one position to the next in relationship to a script or story... It's hurts my brain thinking about it.
Just saw this in a 4D theatre at a zoo lights event. In addition to the 3D, there is wind, mist, blowing snow and rumbles under your seat. The kids in the theatre loved it. I grew up with the original, and this is a fun version, especially with the other effects.
I can well remember, sitting down during the holiday season in 1964 and watching Rudolph air for the first time. Please.... DO NOT MESS with this wonderful, sweet classic! Always remember, just because you CAN does not mean you SHOULD! I will be 60 next year..... and I haven't missed watching Rudolph in 56 years!
Well, the "first" version was NOT the 1964 special. Rather, it was a 1948 theatrical cartoon short by Max Fleischer. But it's a very different premise, entirely different from the version most people know. Here it is ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AwSZqe9HMj0.html
Spyro reignited REMAKE, despite what Twitter, fake fans calling themselves real ones, and sellouts say, isn't better than the original. Should have made something actually new and original.
Such a great job! Loving what I’m seeing here as much as the original. ❤️ I really appreciate how true you all stayed to this as well as added a little bit more magic to it.
There's a RU-vid video about the Rankin Bass "Animagic World" with current creative people expressing their praise and personal feelings about the studio. One guy expresses his thought on stop-motion vs CGI that I agree with: With CGI, no matter how real it looks, it will always be fake. No matter how fake stop-motion looks, it's always real.
Thank you for keeping it alive for future generations. IN the world we live in today, children need an escape to help them remain children for as long as the can. God bless you.
I'm disappointed it's only 10 minutes long. I thought the entire film had been done to ensure preservation. I view it as a National Treasure & believe it possible to obtain the funding to recreate it in it's entirety. I do realize the hours of work to do so are unbelievable long...& I appreciate what you've accomplished and your love for the story . Merry Christmas 🎅 and Happy Holidays
I was so excited at first as I thought this was an entire remake of the original. It took some searching to figure out it's just a ten minute bit. Someone fund the whole movie!
I'm sure it's nice, but I will always be particular to the original. It's about good memories for me. I like knowing my grandchildren will get to see these little movies too some day. I don't do good with change anyway, so maybe I shouldn't have left a comment. Oh well, Merry Christmas.
I much prefer the originals. These are vintage productions, and this kind of tinkering takes all the vintage feel away from them. They're not SUPPOSED to be high-tech - it's part of their charm, and part of the sense they come from a past when technology wasn't so overwhelmingly important. It strips them of the sense of tradition because they look just like everything else kids see at the movies. This reminds me of that awful trend of colorizing classic black-and-white movies, believing that it automatically made them "better".
I agree. Some of the updated shots I see here are missing a ton of detail and appear way too CGI even though they are not. The voice acting done on the original is also way more realistic and timeless. Especially Burl Ives.
Totally agree with you as well... This 're-creation' doesn't intrigue one bit. I, and many others, will always prefer the original for those reasons you listed and more. Why try and supposedly (according to the new creators) 'improve' something like this anyways.. ?? It was brilliant as it originally was and it's still brilliant to this day... I have NO interest in watching a 4D re-imagining of this classic.
@@benkleschinsky You can't get much better than that! "Holly Jolly Christmas" became a classic, and Ives was a superb actor as well as a legendary singer. Remember "Big Daddy"? Who else could have portrayed him so savagely, and yet still with an underlying sense of humanity?
It’s not just that but what bothers me are the puppets themselves… they feel more like a parody than the original puppets… ESPECIALLY You’d think they could of LITERALLY studied the actual film and got the puppet characters down perfect… But no… they feel more like bootlegged versions of the original puppets… You’ve seen some Rudolph stop motion commercials like LITERALLY the Aflac commercial (ESPECIALLY), and that SNL parody of Rudolph from 2001 captured the original character puppets better than this, but I think the Aflac one so far was the closest we ever got to the original puppet characters than this, which is sad how a 15 year old commercial captures these characters than a 15 year later project like this where the characters feel like bootleg versions of themselves… but honestly if they really wanted to they could capture the original characters dead on to the originals… They just never tried yet…
@@princesspeachfan100 There is a reason for this. Most of the original puppets were destroyed in a fire. Rudolph was lost, but later found in an attic years later. I believe that he and one other puppet are the last remaining props from the original film. He’s actually in a museum somewhere, now. I think that the original film artifacting adds a lot to the original as well. There’s just texture there that just can’t be replicated anymore.
I haven't watched this 4D version yet but I'm going to here in a few. I just wanted to say, and this is just my opinion, that the little mistakes or maybe I should say odd things you see in the original version like the fur on the puppets moving around between frames and little things like that are what make stop motion animation that much more interesting. I didn't really understand what stop motion animation was back in the early 70s when I first started watching Rudolph but I could tell that I saw strange fur and clothing manipulation movements from frame to frame which made me think, hmmmmmmmm, I wonder what that is 🤔? To me it makes it more interesting. When it's done too perfectly without any of those imperfect details I think it makes it much more sterile and boring in a way. It's kinda like noticing little things in say for instance the original Star Trek series. You'd see imperfections in several costumes or maybe the way makeup and the like were applied and how they used what looked exactly like Redhots candy in a medicine bottle or jar and that's probably what they were, Redhot candy. Another interesting thing I noticed, among others, was when Captain Kirk would get his cup of coffee and sit in his Captain's chair, the cup looked just like a regular Styrofoam Dixie cup spray painted silver. These are the little details that I think makes certain shows and/or movies 🎥 more interesting and we all know it's make believe but we want to believe it's real even for just a little while and the small flaws among other things that we recognize from home gives it a down to earth feeling at the same time.
The last time I saw Rudolph, I wondered if they kept the audio and re-animated the visuals, how cool would that be? But now that I saw a glimpse of it, I have mixed feelings. Being an animation buff, I sense the reasons for the remake were about a challenging technical exercise, and for a very personal labor-of-love project with an homage to their heroes at Rankin Bass. It was not about replacing a classic. But which version of Rudolph do you want your five-year-old daughter to see for the first time --- the classic, or the new one --- and do you show her the other one next year? In defense of the original, I noticed tiny flaws that I always enjoyed, like how dirty Santa's fingers were (because of the animators' dirty fingers handling the characters), how Hermie's mouth is gone while standing under the Bumble, and how the reindeer shadows disappeared off the cave wall they moment the characters exited out of the camera's view. I'm just glad you kept the sky green!
The original is definitely the definitive classic (haha), but this 4-D one was pretty neat to see at my local aquarium, seeing it in 3D plus all of the gusts of cold wind, splashes of water and falling snow, etc. And it was great to see it so clear, but I will always re-watch the original at holiday time.
As a child in the sixties, Rudolph and some other Christmas favorites were magical. I remember looking forward to receiving the Sears Wish Book each year. Keep up the good work and God Bless.
I worked at Dollywood the first year they introduced these characters to the park and it was like living in a childhood dream seeing the bumble in the park.
To Rankin Bass, et al, I can remember watching this epic production in 1964. It was something else. Fifty-seven years later, I still watch this show… now, with my grandchildren! I must humbly thank everyone for sharing this wonderful item throughout the years.
@@bryantkeller9278 I watched a different video where they discussed the nose. The original was incandescent (it was the 60s after all) and made so much heat it slowly damaged the puppet over time. So they had to install an LED.
Your 4D version was great I hope in the near future you can make a 4D version of another Rankin Bass classic like Mad Monster Party and a Year without a Santa 🎅, and The Ballard of Smokey the 🐻.
The Stop Motion Animals is so creative AND time consuming!! lol Kevin Parry has been an amazing stop motion creator within the last 10 years! Love to see the behind the scenes look of the making of this, just with they showed how the characters were made,..
Haven't seen it but have to question SHOWING Bumble bouncing (looked like they showed it as it happened). Part of the power of not seeing it is that we think they died and are wowed and overjoyed when they return at the end. Guess I'll have to hope...
wow this will be awesome to see that. that is amazing how you all put this together. I grew up watching it too. I hope this hits theaters next Christmas or on DVD. I love to see that new Reimagining of it. you all did awesome on it to keep it like the classical awesome and amazing too.
They should make it available for sale on iTunes. Also, now that they have it all down as far as being able to mimic the original Rankin/Bass characters maybe they could start adding new stories to the saga.
That's a good point about digital recording, and isn't that incredible to realize? It was all originally shot on film. The cinematographers and animators had no idea what they had captured until after it was developed. It was snap a shot and hope for the best.
I really liked it and I think that they stayed so true to the original that they paid homage to it and I think that Arthur Rankin junior and Jules Bass would be honored and amazed at how for their industry has come and how beloved all of them were. I would love to know where I can buy the full DVD of this to add to my collection because I think it would be a wonderful addition.
I love the faithfulness to the source material but also the little innovations and changes that were added, especially in some of the shot compositions or the character performances. Awesome stuff. Would be a dream come true to see this being created or even work on it.
I love it in 1964 I was 2 years old. I’m not sure when I first saw it. For many years I always watch this movie and also the another movie like Santa is coming to town. Now renew with 4 D is great idea.
I watched Rudolph today and felt my 4K TV couldn't bring out the colors well because of the vintage look. Even after tinkering with the contrast of the TV itself it felt washed out and didn't look right on a modern TV. So I think this might bring it back to life for those with the modern TV screens that don't bring out the full beauty of the film.
Hats off to your talents, but in my opinion, despite your best efforts the original just can not be improved upon. It was magical. Unique. Smoother, brighter, cleaner does not mean better. The 1964 version is a work of art.
I should literally get the complete original Christmas Classics collection (Sony Wonder) on DVD which includes the original Christmas Classics (Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, Santa Claus is Coming to Town, Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol, etc) and also Sesame Street: Elmo Saves Christmas
