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Reincarnation, Time, and Space (Surviving Death) 

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@davidschultz7282
@davidschultz7282 3 года назад
Greetings to those here in comments and Hardcore Zen, May I suggest a book from a scientific perspective of reincarnation written by Dr. Ian Stevenson. Title : " Twenty cases suggestive of Reincarnation."
@dudeonthasopha
@dudeonthasopha 3 года назад
This seems unique to Japanese zen which i have the least experience with. In Theravada Buddhism, where I started many years ago, it doesn't make any sense without rebirth and that kinda bothered me cause of their interpretation. There are suttas that discuss differing opinions like annihilatism and eternalism as wrong views, it's unavoidable. I like the abstract non dualist view of life and death, existence and non existence from Thich Nhat Hanh and others in mahayana which was a major reason for my switch. I've accepted this idea of rebirth, and karma but I still don't believe in the anecdotal earth > earth, human > human rebirths from people like Ian Stevenson.
@MassiveLib
@MassiveLib 3 года назад
As there is no space between apparent objects and things are here then time is an illusion.
@grimmace2131
@grimmace2131 3 года назад
That was an excellent video. Thank you.
@jakubbanasiak5563
@jakubbanasiak5563 3 года назад
Could you make video about addictions, for example drug addiction or porn addiction? I think it's important topic nowadays.
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
Hmmm... Let me think about it. I've never been an addictive personality, at least not to the point where it became a clinical problem. But I've had some addictions, so maybe I could speak about it.
@dharmaservant5218
@dharmaservant5218 3 года назад
Ditto
@dharmaservant5218
@dharmaservant5218 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen in the 12 steps, addiction is always seen as rooted in "self-will" and addiction to whatever it may be, is always actually addiction to self.
@osip7315
@osip7315 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen addiction to nostalgia ?
@t.c.bramblett617
@t.c.bramblett617 3 года назад
I think the old idea of two kinds of addictions is still valid. Psychological (that is, things that you seek to subsume your ego discomfort) and physical (real biological hooks like alcohol and opioids) . Both are fascinating and they are related. I'm sure the line is a fuzzy one
@erinjackson1680
@erinjackson1680 2 года назад
It’s interesting how reincarnation is viewed differently amongst cultures. In many African cultures, it is said that we reincarnate back into our families through our descendants. Not just direct descendants but distant family as well. Also, reincarnation is not viewed as something bad in Africa. But, as a way of coming back to help humanity elevate and grow.
@ceruleandusk
@ceruleandusk 3 года назад
At the Buddha's time there was another sect of wanderers called Carvakas who rejected rebirth and anything religious/supernatural but the Buddha did take a stance against them and hold the view that yes, reincarnation is a thing, along with other supernatural concepts such as the 32 planes of existence and Karma. But he was the only one to fit all of that in the Law of Causation (Paticca Samuppada) so that sets apart Buddhism as a different school even from other religious ones at the time.
@Teller3448
@Teller3448 3 года назад
So what is the difference between modern 'Secular Buddhism' and the Charvakans?
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
Thank you. I'd forgotten about that. I don't know much about the Carvakas except that sometimes they're called "materialists" I think. There were Indian thinkers who rejected ideas like reincarnation/rebirth.
@rglenn519891
@rglenn519891 3 года назад
Don’t most Buddhists consider rebirth central to the tenants and vows. Seems more and more I talk to people outside of the Zen tradition that there is a stalwart idea that without 100 percent belief in rebirth Buddhism is pointless. Are we kidding ourselves that the idea is frivolous?
@Teller3448
@Teller3448 3 года назад
"Are we kidding ourselves that the idea is frivolous?" Yes, very much so...even within the Zen tradition.
@marknoble2030
@marknoble2030 3 года назад
Philip Kapleau did not write Life After Life. He did write The Wheel of Life and Death. The book you mention was written by Raymond Moody.
@gregwallace552
@gregwallace552 3 года назад
I don't think he said that Philip Kapleau wrote Life After Life, what I heard was he that he though he might have recommended it.
@marknoble2030
@marknoble2030 3 года назад
@@gregwallace552 Right you are! I should pay closer attention. Sorry.
@gregwallace552
@gregwallace552 3 года назад
@@marknoble2030 It's okay.
@456creeper
@456creeper 3 года назад
“In each and every action we need to have a precise and concrete aim that expresses emptiness” I can’t remember who said it. I always feel like thoughts of reincarnation get in the way of making that aim. Any thoughts about life after death.
@wladddkn1517
@wladddkn1517 3 года назад
In India, rebirth (this is the right term) is the bad consequence, but unavoidable for most of sentient beeings. Every beeing, from naraka to deva, from devils in hell to angels in heaven, are to move in that frigging cycle of samsara.
@armanidavis2843
@armanidavis2843 3 года назад
Instablaster...
@TheBestThomasJay
@TheBestThomasJay 3 года назад
Please watch and review The Midnight Gospel on Netflix. I feel like it’s the closest to Representing many Buddhist ideas you can get visually
@somedude1791
@somedude1791 3 года назад
You once wrote, "Other people are your own past and future." I'd enjoy if you might elaborate on that particular post. To me, this means that reincarnation of a soul does not exist, yet one is always 'incarnated,' as the One Universe is the only self there is...
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
Did I write that? I know I've thought that from time to time. I'd file that under "Brad's personal speculations" rather than "Eternal Buddhist Truths." Still, it might make a good video.
@somedude1791
@somedude1791 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen Yeah, it was one of your blog posts maybe a year or two ago... It's a cool topic, nonetheless.
@JimTempleman
@JimTempleman 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen “To regard oneself as a bodhisattva is to regard all forms of being as forms that one can and does take, out of compassion for the world. And it is this recognizing of ourselves in other lives that is the true meaning of rebirth and its constant invocation throughout the Lotus Sutra; it shows us all past, present, and future existences as varying bodhisattva transformations of ourselves-in this very moment, right now.” - Shinozaki, M., Ziporyn, B.A., & Earheart, D.C. (2019). “The Threefold Lotus Sutra: A Modern Translation for Contemporary Readers”. (pp. lii-liii)
@gunterappoldt3037
@gunterappoldt3037 3 года назад
@@JimTempleman but be cautious, it can cause heavy "brain overload", examples abound (topic: religious pathologies)!
@AnnetteZimmerman
@AnnetteZimmerman 3 года назад
This makes sense. If all life forms are one, and all one is now, than other people are indeed your own past and future. Not their experiences and memories specifically, perhaps, but because 'you' as you think you are (separate from all else) are never born, you are always incarnated. Difficult to put into words but the concept is clear.
@genem7451
@genem7451 3 года назад
What does reincarnation explain? Does it apply only to modern humans? Homo sapiens has been around for 300,000 odd years, most of that time without language as far as we know. Did it work for pre-language humans? Does it apply to Neanderthals? To Denisovans? To homo erectus? To creatures that existed before even mammals? When you think about it in evolutionary terms it almost seems silly. We language-endowed humans have only been around for a small fraction of the flow of energy through the universe that we call the Tao. And why is it that no one who claims prior memories, ever remembers their life as a dog or a dinosaur or a dung beetle? I'd just like to see some evidence for something so apparently important,not simply a bunch of deductive logic or a priori assertions.
@rglenn519891
@rglenn519891 3 года назад
Interesting. So here’s how I’ve kinda thought of it. So all of your cells atoms, tissue etc are made up of everything that is found in the earth and subsequently in the known universe. So we are the product of those things being put into a chemical process called life. Now the only element that evades modern science could be the idea of mind or consciousness as a factor in this process. Could it be that stones, rivers and plants are as much “incarnated” by our used atoms as much as they are from our minds? Also it appears that some Buddhists kinda classify rebirth as a sort of “lower” or “higher” thing based off the actions in this life. I’m not too sure about that as it seems to imply that there is a “soul” being “tested” by Karma. Thoughts? Sorry it’s kinda difficult to hash this out. Thanks for all the vids.
@wladddkn1517
@wladddkn1517 3 года назад
I'd like to say, karma is not a test, but the cause and effect system.
@wojcikpawel89
@wojcikpawel89 3 года назад
I'd like to offer another possibility, that in my opinion is consistent with the way the Buddha taught. Since reincarnation was a common view and well understood at his time, he might have used it as so called expedient means - Upaya - to help practitioners in their practice. Meaning, It is not necessarily true but it is beneficial to have this view at some stage along the path. For example, asking yourself a question "what incarnates from one life to another" can be a valid practice.
@marcusgronwall1340
@marcusgronwall1340 3 года назад
Paweł Wójcik I`m with you on the issue of the Buddha himself not necessarily believing in reincarnation and definitely not emphasizing it in his teaching. However, the idea that it might be benificial to believe in (and to teach) something that is not true does not sit well with me. If reincarnation is not real, then teaching children to believe in it is simply lying. We are taught that we are all buddhas, right? Buddhas that need to wake up and realize that we are buddhas. How is lying to us helping us realize the truth? And what else are our teachers lying about then?
@wojcikpawel89
@wojcikpawel89 3 года назад
@@marcusgronwall1340 Well, lying is a strong word. Throughout history when a new faith was being introduced it was always easier to introduce it by adapting its doctrine and mixing it with the current local beliefs. I believe that's how Tibetan buddhism got started with all it's deamons and stuff. This is also why Jesus' birthday is celebrated on 24th of December. Buddha might have used the same trick with reincarnation, as his intention was to help people and probably knew that if he had rejected something so fundamental, he wouldn't have gotten far with his teaching. Instead he used this idea to encourage people to cultivate the mind. As I've written in my previous comment, pondering the idea of reincarnation, really thinking about what is there that goes from one lifetime to another and simultaneously holding the view of non-self is kind of a zen koan for me. It can help with practice.
@marcusgronwall1340
@marcusgronwall1340 3 года назад
Paweł Wójcik I agree with everything you say about new faiths adapting older traditions to help them get a foot in the door, so to speak. Christmas on the 24th of December is a perfect example of this and as far as I am aware, all new faiths do this. And while it may be crucial for marketing reasons, it is still untrue. And to teach things that are at best unknown and at worst straight up untrue IS lying. Remember that most believers, Buddhists or belonging to other faiths, are not invited to look at the teachings of their tradition sceptically. While in Zen a certain amount of individualism is a good thing and the great masters of history did not necessarily agree with each other, most belivers of any faith are expected to believe what their teachers/priests/imams tell them. And if Buddhist teachers (even in Zen) are content with offering teachings that they themselves do not believe in, simply to "give the people what they want" or to stay relevant, then Buddhism is just another religion with no possible special claims about truth. And I confess, this is something I constantly struggle with, something I do not want to be true!
@gunterappoldt3037
@gunterappoldt3037 3 года назад
@@marcusgronwall1340 that is the tricky thing with the concept of "upâya" ("skilfull means"), one may be tempted to say, with F. Nietzsche, it`s "human, all too human".
@userjuha
@userjuha 3 года назад
Sounds like Dogen is a God for you
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
Not really. I just think he was a very brilliant writer and insightful person.
@brookestabler3477
@brookestabler3477 3 года назад
Out of curiosity, does your mother (or your friend to whom the "letters" were addressed) visit you in dreams? I've found visits from the dead in dreamland to be fairly powerful.
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
My mother stopped by my room as she was passing out of this world. My friend David Coady briefly visited me after he died. Neither of them visited me in dreams as such, though I've had numerous dreams of my mother since she died. So who knows? My friend upon whom the "Letters" book was based never visited me as far as I'm aware.
@brookestabler3477
@brookestabler3477 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen My dad died when I was pretty young, and showed up in dreams a lot, hasn't in ages. My Mom has quite a lot, too, in ways interesting.
@brookestabler3477
@brookestabler3477 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen One of my favorite things about you (as I've noted before) is your authenticity. That's something I learned doing Zen, how to be steadfastly honest (which doesn't mean I don't lie). At any rate, your mother passed through on her way out, something you KNEW, so clearly, contact with the "non living" world is possible. Someone might say you were hallucinating (I've tried to debunk my own paranormal experiences a lot), but you know that's not true, just as I do. You did suggest the letters book was based on more than one person, you'd kind of randomly chosen Markie as I recall.
@wladddkn1517
@wladddkn1517 3 года назад
@@brookestabler3477, well, if there is rebith, then there is no dead persons who continue to be the same person.
@brookestabler3477
@brookestabler3477 3 года назад
@@wladddkn1517 Huh? If Joe is reincarnated as Susie, then Joe had to have died and his "Joeness" (according to those who claim to be reincarnated) continues to be Joe despite being present in Susie's body. I've not watched the thing Brad has written on here, have read one person who claims to be reincarnated's story, it struck me as not very credible. Show me an American who can speak Chinese because she learned it in her last life, I'll believe. As of right now, I don't know.
@gra6649
@gra6649 3 года назад
Do you think that there is a difference between reincarnation, and rebirth? When a wave on a lake rises, and falls and raises again, can one say that it was the same wave, or is it all just water. Nisargadatta talks about figurines made of silver. He said something about if the smith find a fault with the figurine he can melt it down and make a new one. The figurine changes, and nothing of the first one remains, but the silver remains silver. To my mind, reincarnation, no, rebirth could be.
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
There's a difference between the 2 ideas. Reincarnation usually means the belief that there's a soul that travels from one body to another. Rebirth is used to mean what the Buddhists believe in, that the same causes and conditions remain together and can be the cause of another life. Like waves producing other waves made of more-or-less the same bunch of water.
@gra6649
@gra6649 3 года назад
@@HardcoreZen I know what the Buddhists think, but what do you think? When my teacher was asked about it, his response was "It doesn't really matter. Keep your mind on what's happening now,
@gra6649
@gra6649 3 года назад
Hard core Zen Come to think of it, that’s more or less what you’re pointing at I think. I’m a little slow sometimes.
@gunterappoldt3037
@gunterappoldt3037 3 года назад
It is the concept of the "hyle" (Aristoteles[?]), also discussed by ancient Greek philosophers.
@brookestabler3477
@brookestabler3477 3 года назад
And certainly "past life memory", yeah, that sense organ thing. The Noosphere (Teilard de Chardin) is accessible, I'm pretty sure, channeling is a real phenomenon. Are those folks accessing dead spirits, or simply a form of "mind" that exists and can be tapped into?
@gunterappoldt3037
@gunterappoldt3037 3 года назад
Teilhard de Chardin "operationalizes" something like the world-spirit (ger.: "Weltgeist") in terms of his own Christology of the "Omega-man", if I remember right. He holds strongyly to the "realism-principle" (S. Freud), having been a scientist himself (archeaology, etc.). Now, past life memories seem, in general, rather to be an ana-thema for Christians---with certain exceptions, which however are usually branded as "heterodox" or even "heresies"---, respectively to be a subject for "bracketing", since the standard Christian world-view strongly favours a strictly "dual" two-worlds-teaching: here the "earthly existence" (therby often interpreting ones one and only life as the single occasion for putting all things right, so to say) and there the "heavenly spheres" (however people/communities operationalize them, e.g., as "elysium", as "God`s ultimate reign", as "totaliter aliter", and so forth) with Jesus the Christ (as messiah) sent and set as the "sole" meddler (according to the dominant teachings, at least). That`s the way I would interpret Teilhard de Chardin`s "approach" (which changed over his lifetime; he was more a seeker than a finder, except for his basic creed). Taken phenomenologically, "every(-non-)thing shining up" counts as "given" (i.e., data, datum); where it gets really interesting (or even hits existentially), interpretations (as ways of unfolding rationals, matrices, etc.) necessarily commence----unless one chooses "total bracketing" (which, yet, rather looks like a limes-phenomenon, approaching the "wall" of the "impossible", to put it in a zen-ish way).
@brookestabler3477
@brookestabler3477 3 года назад
@@gunterappoldt3037 I've not read tons of his stuff, mostly overviews and ideas about the Noosphere. I once listened to a Krista Tippet thing where she had a segment on his thinking, an open minded atheist evolutionary biologist, and one other, a theist I think, I don't recall, but it worked really well. He was ahead of his time in many ways, a scientist, and a very spiritual guy as a monk.
@gunterappoldt3037
@gunterappoldt3037 3 года назад
@@brookestabler3477 yes, he had an interesting life and wrote some inspiring books.
@AlexReyn888
@AlexReyn888 3 года назад
How do you think, does buddhism makes sense at all without reincarnation? (in broad definition: as individual consequences of life after moment of death). Like some secular version
@HardcoreZen
@HardcoreZen 3 года назад
It can work.
@rainydaycommenter8537
@rainydaycommenter8537 3 года назад
Actually science is just starting to get around the fact that brain is a sense organ for memory and memory might be stored somewhere else. For example, this point being alluded by the butterfly example around 2:30min mark ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RjD1aLm4Thg.html
@sultanalharbi8464
@sultanalharbi8464 2 года назад
Is Buddha an atheist? I don have answer i have questions. If buddha was a atheist in his time was many sects were atheist like Charvak‘s school so What did Buddha give us to people if there were atheists before him? Not only Charvak‘s school there is Ājīvika ( fatalism) (we are powerless , suffering is predestined ), another( ajita )( materialism) (live happily , with death , all is annihilated) , And the other thing , (pakudha ), ( eternalism) (matter , pleasure , pain and the soul are eternal and do not interact )and the other thing( Sañjaya )( agnosticism ) (i don think so . I do not think in that way or otherwise, I don’t think not or not not , suspense of judgment) . But my Opinion What did Buddha know is Different our world is not reality the real world is really happy what is not make us see the the reality is Desires and impermanence and actually buddha is not reject the rebirth but reject concept in Hinduism A prince is born a prince and Poor is born poor that , that is what understood maybe i'm wrong maybe i a right and i am sorry my english is not very well i hope so explained my concept very clear
@osip7315
@osip7315 3 года назад
space . time rebirth reincarnation happy unhappy the unenlightened get tangled forever on wrong roads . walking along the beach in late afternoon light i am enlightened at the end of the road i stop with no further to go that is all
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