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Remembrance: Ten years since the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 

Scarlet R.
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My blog about this disappearance case: koudekaas.blog...
Recuerdo: Diez años de la desaparición de Kris Kremers y Lisanne Froon
El 1 de abril de 2014, hace exactamente diez años, dos jóvenes y vibrantes holandesas desaparecieron en Panamá. Kris Kremers y Lisanne Froon tenían la intención de hacer trabajo voluntario, aprender español y pasar las vacaciones de sus vidas. En cambio, se convirtió en una festividad que les quitó la vida.
Lisanne habría cumplido hoy 32 años y Kris 31. Probablemente habrían hecho grandes cosas con sus vidas. Es posible que hayan mirado las fotos y videos de su viaje a Panamá de vez en cuando, pero lo más probable es que lo hubieran hecho. en su mayoría reemplazó esos recuerdos con una década de nuevas aventuras. En cambio, sus familias tendrán que vivir sin ellos.
Muchas personas de todo el mundo se enteraron de su trágico destino. Yo incluido. Nunca conocimos a Kris o Lisanne en la vida real, pero su historia nos ha cautivado y no podemos dejarla ir. Mucha gente piensa en este caso de vez en cuando, preguntándose si algún día se resolverá.
Otros siguen discutiendo su destino semanalmente y siguen pensando en lo que pasó y en los muchos restantes preguntas y dudas.
Respetamos la petición de las familias Kremers y Froon de que se les deje en paz. Han hecho todo lo que estuvo a su alcance para encontrar su hijas y obtener las respuestas necesarias. Pero hay una comunidad de personas que respetuosamente continúan buscando.
Al mantener este caso vivo y discutido, al hacer que este caso sea conocido en todo el mundo, aumentamos las posibilidades de que las estaciones de televisión o investigadores independientes para buscar más información.
Todavía existe la posibilidad de que este caso se resuelva, de una forma u otra. Y si alguien fue realmente responsable de sus muertes, deben rendir cuentas.
Estoy seguro de que hay personas que proyectan diferentes experiencias o creencias personales sobre esta trágica historia de Kris y Lisanne. Perdí a mi propia hermana cuando ella tenía 22 años y quizás esto también juegue un pequeño papel en mi seguimiento de este caso en la medida en que lo hago. Lisanne me recuerda a mi hermana.
Esta es una canción holandesa que tocamos en el funeral de mi hermana y rara vez la escucho, ya que evoca muchas emociones. Pero agregaré subtítulos en inglés y los usaré para este triste video del décimo aniversario, hoy.
Descanse en paz Kris y Lisanne.
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Letra de la canción holandesa:
No existe tal cosa como decir adiós.
Me voy, pero no te dejaré
Querida tienes que creerme
Aunque duela.
Me gusta que me dejes ir
Y que volverás a continuar mañana.
Pero si estás solo o asustado
Voy a estar allí.
Vendré como el viento que puedes sentir y como la lluvia.
Seguiré lo que haces, como la luz de la luna.
Búscame en todo y me encontrarás
Susurra mi nombre y estaré allí
Mira lo que es invisible
Lo que crees es verdad
solo abres los ojos
Y estaré allí contigo
Todo lo que tienes que hacer es confiar en mi palabra.
No existe tal cosa como decir adios
Vendré como el viento que puedes sentir y como la lluvia.
Seguiré lo que haces, como la luz de la luna.
Búscame en todo y me encontrarás
Susurra mi nombre y estaré allí
Mira el cielo, mira el mar.
Dondequiera que camines, estaré caminando contigo
Cada paso y cada momento.
No importa dónde estés
Hagas lo que hagas, dondequiera que vayas
Si me necesitas, solo susurra mi nombre
y estaré allí
No existe tal cosa como decir adios

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@callyacaos5339
@callyacaos5339 5 месяцев назад
One day, and I really believe it, one day justice will be serverd! It is important to remember what "happened". Don't forget Kris and Lisanne, people. To Scarlet: I am sorry for your loss. I guess most of us did not know. Thank you for sharing this and I hope we will see all the lovely people we once lost back on the other side, smiling at us =) Greetings from Duitsland
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
Thank you ❤‍🩹
@wendygreeff205
@wendygreeff205 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the lovely tribute to these two lovely young women who were taken away too soon. I also remembered it is the 10th anniversary. May they rest in peace, and may their families find healing and closure.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 5 месяцев назад
Lovely emotional tribute Scarlet. I remember you telling me about your sister before. Very sad. Beautiful lady. Im sure the anniversary of Kris and Lisanne brings it all back for you. Hope you are ok. Best wishes.❤️
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Lyndon ❤‍🩹
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 5 месяцев назад
@@scarletr.7753 Try and take it easy. Go see your animals. 🤗
@cellytron
@cellytron 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful video, RIP Kris and Lisanne, and your sister as well. ❤
@markopredan1147
@markopredan1147 5 месяцев назад
Scarlet you are a hero. You are a great and intelligent investigator. All those involved in that will meet their karma sooner or later. I wish you all the best.💖
@filipesilva1276
@filipesilva1276 5 месяцев назад
Nice tribute, R.I.P. Kris and Lisanne. I am so sorry for you loss, Scarlet R.🙏
@vicki4480
@vicki4480 5 месяцев назад
Today marks TEN years since the case of these beautiful girls, Rest in peace. you are unforgettable Kris and Lisane😢🤍
@DriZ01
@DriZ01 5 месяцев назад
Hey Scarlet, how nice of you to make such a tribute. As a fellow Dutchmen similarly aged I could relate with the girls, but apart from geolocating the location of the 'swimming photo' there is little I was able to do. I guess the lack of closure on the whole case makes the girls popup in memory every now and then, hard to let go. Take care!
@Mark-lj1dj
@Mark-lj1dj 5 месяцев назад
I remember this being on the news at the time. I can't believe it's been 10 years already. Rest in peace kris and lisanne ❤
@gabialmeida8955
@gabialmeida8955 5 месяцев назад
Dez anos se passaram... Espero que esse crime seja solucionado algum dia. Descansem em paz, meninas 🙏
@damanyou
@damanyou 5 месяцев назад
Thank you scarlet tor all your work. Its indeed important to keep the memory up
@acb5245
@acb5245 5 месяцев назад
I am deeply sorry for your loss, Scarlet 💔 God bless and comfort you 🙏
@soniamaritzahernandez6920
@soniamaritzahernandez6920 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful message! Rest in peace Lisanne and Kriss.... Rest in peace your sister ❤❤
@dollweiss
@dollweiss 5 месяцев назад
i am so sorry for your loss, and always thinking of these bright, beautiful, promising women we lost way too quickly. including your sister. ♥ praying there will be justice one day
@peterd4047
@peterd4047 5 месяцев назад
Very beautiful tribute for these two wonderful girls who will never be forgotton by so many people around the world. Scarlet, thanks for everything you do.
@Chris_Corcoran
@Chris_Corcoran 5 месяцев назад
It's good that there are still people keeping the case alive and caring about Kris and Lisanne. Most of all I hope that their bodies are found and finally brough back to their homes and families
@waxwagner
@waxwagner 5 месяцев назад
This case is pure sadness
@carlosbrizuela6521
@carlosbrizuela6521 5 месяцев назад
Muy lindo video conmemorativo de tu parte Scarlet, de este fatídico decimo aniversario. Que en paz descanse Kris y Lisanne, mi más sentido pesame por tu hermana. Siempre duele mucho la perdida de seres queridos cercanos y más aun cuando es de forma inesperada. Sin lugar a dudas este caso es muy pero muy particular y trasciende idiomas, continentes, ect. No e visto hasta ahora un caso que tenga tanta cobertura en redes sociales, con publicaciones de libros, podcast e incluso tv a pesar de tener ya 10 años de ocurrido y estar tan en duda la teoría oficial. Esperemos y creo que pueden llegar algunas respuestas...
@steelcurtain187
@steelcurtain187 5 месяцев назад
A beautiful tribute, and very sorry for your loss as well ❤️‍🩹
@jlvandat69
@jlvandat69 5 месяцев назад
A beautiful tribute to two wonderful young ladies. Thank you, Scarlet for all you do. I am so sorry to hear of your loss. 🙏🙏🙏
@lauralambarri8317
@lauralambarri8317 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for this tribute. It made me cry. I'm sorry for your loss. I also lost a sister and a brother. But, as the song says "Just think about me, just whisper my name and I'll be there". They are not dead. They just moved to live in another place, but never forget us. One day we will hug each other again.
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
I'm so sorry for your losses Laura.. Yes I think we will, and a hug for you right now from me
@lauralambarri8317
@lauralambarri8317 5 месяцев назад
@@scarletr.7753 ❤️
@NunoFM2005
@NunoFM2005 5 месяцев назад
My deepest condolences on the loss of your sister.
@aracelischaves2290
@aracelischaves2290 5 месяцев назад
Nunca olvido este caso. Gracias Scarlet por dedicarte a mantenerlo vivo. Fue horrible lo wue les pasó a Kriss y Lisanne es injusto que su muerte quede impune. Los culpables estan libres. Pueden atacar otra vez.
@FrankMcCloud
@FrankMcCloud 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the tribute. I remembered that it would be ten years now too. I lost the love of my life 14 years ago in a tragedy when he was 22. It changes life forever and not in a good way. I hope at least one day we will get answers to what happened. It is bad enough that they had to go, but that there might be people out there enjoying life who were responsible for this evil, is unbearable.
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
Very sorry for your loss.. That is so sad to read. Some people truly are irreplaceable in this life. I hope you have found some joy again
@FrankMcCloud
@FrankMcCloud 5 месяцев назад
@@scarletr.7753 Thank you very much for your kind words. Yes, some people can never be replaced. Unfortunately I have never found joy again though I tried hard. Sometimes only one moment decides about life being heaven or hell. From one moment to the next the sun can go down and never rise again. I think the case of Lisanne and Kris illustrates that very well, the happy photos on that day, the sun, the nature, not expecting anything bad and then suddenly everything is just darnkness forever and for those left behind also tormenting questions and helplessness.
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
@@FrankMcCloud That makes me sad to read.. Some say it is better to have loved and lost, but that movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind covers the other side of that argument. I am sorry, but am hoping for some future joy still for you and also strength. Yeh, the Kris and Lisanne photos are partly so gripping indeed because of that contrast; the total cheerfulness in the Mirador pictures, coupled with what we now know to have been subsequent horror, regardless of which theory people believe in, because it was all terrible really
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 5 месяцев назад
Condolences for your loss. The age 22 keeps cropping up bizarrely. I also lost the love of my life (11 1/2 years ago) so I know the feeling. Best wishes to you.
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
@@lyndoncmp5751 Oh no, am so sorry to read that Lyndon.. Life can be so cruel and unexpected 💔
@mateuszpatua3016
@mateuszpatua3016 5 месяцев назад
We might never discover the truth but they will be remembered, that's for sure
@michaelsergejhelgesson1637
@michaelsergejhelgesson1637 5 месяцев назад
❤Beautifully done by you❤ Greetings from Sweden
@roscluaran
@roscluaran 5 месяцев назад
Thank you, Scarlet, for sharing this beautiful video and the music complements it wonderfully. It's sad to see how happy they were and the song you chose is so moving. My condolences on the loss of your sister. 💜
@Michael-qd6lz
@Michael-qd6lz 5 месяцев назад
Lisanne en Kris rust zacht❤ Wat een vreselijk lot heeft jullie getroffen.. zo jong.. zulke mooie ambities, veel te vroeg heen gegaan 😞 Ik volg de verdwijning sinds het eerste bericht dat jullie vermist werden. Ik hoop nog steeds dat er ooit een antwoord komt voor jullie familie en vrienden🙏🏻 Heel veel sterkte voor de na bestaande tijdens dit ongelofelijk treurige jubileum. ❤
@conary77
@conary77 3 месяца назад
Thank you Scarlet for all that you do, for keeping the case alive through your blog and this channel. I am so sorry for your loss.
@mateuszpatua3016
@mateuszpatua3016 5 месяцев назад
oh no :/ Scarlet, I am so deeply sorry for your loss :/ My sister turned 22 this year, I can not even imagine what you have gone through :/ Sending prayers
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
Thank you ❤‍🩹
@xblauwbeertje
@xblauwbeertje 5 месяцев назад
Hey Scarlet, bedankt voor al je werk op je kanaal en blog. Erg ontroerend filmpje noch de muziek, maar gelukkig zijn er veel mensen (zoals jij) die deze zaak niet vergeten zijn ook al is het al 10 jaar geleden. Het voelt daarom ook zo raar dat precies 10 jaar geleden ook de ouders in een grote onzekerheid leefde en nu moeten door leven met het feit dat ze nooit echt de waarheid zullen weten wat er gebeurd is met hun dochters. Nogmaals bedankt Scarlet voor al je werk!
@alexharvey1787
@alexharvey1787 5 месяцев назад
Both Beautiful girls. 4:07……..just wow
@annem6714
@annem6714 5 месяцев назад
I’m sorry for your loss ❤
@eliaslima5506
@eliaslima5506 5 месяцев назад
His sister was also a beautiful girl! It is very sad to lose family members, especially those who serve as references and are an example of life for us, remarkable people! I lost four brothers, a sister and my father. I'm already hardened! We have to be strong. Never give in to death!!!
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 5 месяцев назад
Four brothers, a sister and a father 😢 That's terrible. Sorry to read
@eliaslima5506
@eliaslima5506 5 месяцев назад
​@@scarletr.7753Quiet, no problems. This existence is hard, troubled, the world is a dangerous place, life is a test and we are subject to all passions. We have to be of good cheer, the end is not in death, we were not made for corruption! Our existence would be too pointless if the end were death. We have to learn to deal with the ugly side of things, knowing that life is also good and exhilarating. Injustices can be undone. Coincidence or not, the first day of the week is considered the day that Jesus Christ was resurrected and triumphed over death. May one day the good people who are gone can have this victory too! Happy Easter!!!
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 5 месяцев назад
Sorry to hear about your losses. Sending best wishes.
@eliaslima5506
@eliaslima5506 5 месяцев назад
Thanks.👍😉 ​@@lyndoncmp5751
@AdvieAtkins
@AdvieAtkins 5 месяцев назад
it is like i knew them, it is always heartbreaking and sad, not to remember them of course, but to ose them in the first place, hope they are in better place enjoying their cherry and orange drinks
@nagytunde6040
@nagytunde6040 5 месяцев назад
beautiful!
@Michael-qd6lz
@Michael-qd6lz 5 месяцев назад
Veel sterkte met het verlies van je zus Scarlet R. ❤ Verschrikkelijk zulke dingen 😔❤️
@El-Villano-De-La-Pelicula
@El-Villano-De-La-Pelicula 5 месяцев назад
As central american citizen, my advise: Never trust blindy no one. Always take picture and tell somebody else with whom you will stay, doesnt matter how kind they treat you, always notice where, when, and with whom you go. I dont mean everybody is bad, but always take care. Security is first.
@anneschmitz9813
@anneschmitz9813 5 месяцев назад
Prachtig Scarlet...❤❤ voor de meiden en ❤ voor jouw zus
@El-Villano-De-La-Pelicula
@El-Villano-De-La-Pelicula 5 месяцев назад
Incredible. 10 years have passed. This was the year of world cup soccer in Brasil, many tv channels stopped to broadcast about the notice, dont know why. What i see is two young and inoccents girls What happened, its make me feel anger, how is this possibe? They came to panama to help children and enjoy, but sick people did the worst they can. I feel so sad by their parents, they needed private militar at their service. The murderer is still alive. Why is he still slive? So anger ❤
@Sandoz-tq7qj
@Sandoz-tq7qj 5 месяцев назад
Who is that murderer ?
@El-Villano-De-La-Pelicula
@El-Villano-De-La-Pelicula 4 месяца назад
@@Sandoz-tq7qj Don't know, but if there is none in jail, it's mean he/she is free! 🤷
@alexf3r2x
@alexf3r2x 2 месяца назад
​@@El-Villano-De-La-PeliculaOr, most likely, he died.
@NunoFM2005
@NunoFM2005 5 месяцев назад
Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, you did not deserve such a fate in Panama, now you are in God's company to be loved forever and ever.
@Z-Victory
@Z-Victory 5 месяцев назад
Here in Slovakia there was a case - slovak acid gang - In the history of Slovak criminology, there is no case when the perpetrators of murder were convicted without the victim's body being found. The only exception are slovak acid gang. no bones/no skeletons were found... ---- Sooner or later they might find the remains of Kris and Lisanne. And maybe not. Kris may not have had an ideal figure, but her face was very pretty/so sexy. She had a beautiful white face and beautiful red/red-blonde hair... be a woman with blond long hair, go to - for example to faking Egypt and see what will happens... and there you have the answer...what happened
@faxlouovhx2963
@faxlouovhx2963 4 месяца назад
Kris had a lovely figure, and a beautiful face
@denisesatx
@denisesatx 2 месяца назад
Thank you for having such a beautiful heart and remembering these girls.❤
@mattiazinzeriingrosso
@mattiazinzeriingrosso 5 месяцев назад
I'm not dutch. I didn't know this case before I discovered it in this month. I feel very sad for these girls in these days, this story is really heartbreaking 💔 All my love and support to families, boyfriends and friends of Kris and Lisanne💖
@sjoerdvanberkel8365
@sjoerdvanberkel8365 5 месяцев назад
We denken aan Kris en Lisanne. ❤
@Charlie-h4r7ir
@Charlie-h4r7ir 4 месяца назад
My beautiful girls , forever love you 🙏🏻❤hello from turkey🇹🇷🇹🇷
@nonamewithoutacause6465
@nonamewithoutacause6465 5 месяцев назад
“Tell your friend that in his death, a part of you dies and goes with him. Wherever he goes, you also go. He will not be alone.” ― J. Krishnamurti
@rezopolis
@rezopolis 3 месяца назад
Thanks for you dedication to this case You really know much more about this than any other person. Your blog on the case is absurdly complete, like, I've never seem anything like it. So in the end, you veridect? Were they lured, silently tracked by a local gang, killed, disposed, the case got manipulated by people involved, and the guys that contacted them got murdered to preserve secrecy?
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your kind message. And yes, that is roughly what I believe has happened to them, unfortunately. With the two murdered lads having been involved only from the sideline, but deemed a liability by the main perpetrators...
@mikemoreno4469
@mikemoreno4469 5 месяцев назад
So very sad.
@defranken
@defranken 6 дней назад
Nice video! I can't let this case go either. I have to know.
@abdullahal-azmi2680
@abdullahal-azmi2680 5 месяцев назад
Is that you could why there no investigation for this case deep and deep we need more information and evidence
@seancidy6008
@seancidy6008 5 месяцев назад
Lisanne was very striking. There are people who seem normal with jobs and families like anyone else but they are just bad. Evil spelt _F_
@LandonAdamson
@LandonAdamson 5 месяцев назад
Aww scarlet I’m literally crying my album for these girls got pushed back but it should be coming soon love you all!💜
@petramaier7459
@petramaier7459 5 месяцев назад
❤❤❤
@jc-246
@jc-246 3 месяца назад
I really feel your empathy, Scarlet. Im sorry to hear about your sister and you really care so much about Lisanne and Kris as your efforts in trying to get justice for them shows. If anything to keep their case out there and not let them be forgotten. Ive read your blog over the years and your eriting is fantastic as are your investfstion skills and Juans and Ive revisited your page again because I think of them still, they are no different from any other young person wanted to explore the world and a journey of self discovery too. They are entitled to want to explore as female without coming to harm and criticism etc. I believe they were stalked and its a ring of sorts that meant a fair few couldnt be trusted. These two are not naive, and they got bad vibes and their instincts were probably saying something was off. They wouldnt have treked that far and off the beaten track by choice. 🙏 They are in our hearts, always including the family 🙏
@Lazona777
@Lazona777 5 месяцев назад
May the girls have peace and happiness in this world or in the other world. God is and will be with you. And the prayers and love of your families and millions of people are with you. May God grant your sister a place in the light, may she rest in peace ❤
@Bc4z
@Bc4z 4 месяца назад
you are the voice....
@PinoyWarrior-h4c
@PinoyWarrior-h4c 5 месяцев назад
I hope and pray for these two beautiful girls that they will get the true justice they deserve.
@dairon456prada
@dairon456prada 5 месяцев назад
Saludame siempre estoy atento a este caso
@adsfsdlasd
@adsfsdlasd 5 месяцев назад
no puedo superar este caso😫
@hellwest-fifi
@hellwest-fifi 5 месяцев назад
@Rebecca-Carlton-Ritz
@Rebecca-Carlton-Ritz 5 месяцев назад
Bedankt Scarlet voor deze gedenkwaardige, herdenkende en emotionele video ter nagedachtenis aan zulke mooie en levenslustige meiden Kris Kremers en Lisanne Froon. Ik en mijn Flying Patrol-team blijven onderzoek doen, onderzoeken en schrijven een gedetailleerde chronologie van de gebeurtenissen in deze afschuwelijke zaak om eindelijk gerechtigheid te krijgen voor de meisjes. Kris en Lisanne zullen voor altijd herinnerd en herinnerd worden in de hoofden en harten van familie, vrienden en iedereen die deze zaak blijft bestuderen en onderzoeken. En weet dit Scarlet... Kris, Lisanne en je zus zijn er altijd voor je.
5 месяцев назад
Thank you. Kriss and Lisanne you are our Angels ❤
@igorslapaturovski3918
@igorslapaturovski3918 24 дня назад
Their remains not being found in 10 years tells you its a cover up of a foul play
@antonioschioppa5669
@antonioschioppa5669 3 месяца назад
Ciao Scarlet...conosco questo caso da pochi mesi🙁...mi dispiace molto per quello che è accaduto a queste bellissime ragazze...seguo i tuoi video ma non riesco a capire tutto i sottotitoli sono in inglese...scusami ma qual'è la tua teoria su questo caso???Io credo non sia stato un incidente...complimenti per questo video ricordo di Kris&Lisanne♥️
@scarletr.7753
@scarletr.7753 3 месяца назад
Hi, thanks for your message. Some videos here allow you to select autotranslate and then you can choose from a long list of languages, including Italian. I also have a massive blog series about this case in case you are interested, and google allows for auto-translate there: koudekaas.blogspot.com/ My theory and believe is also that it was not an accident and that they were followed, kidnapped and murdered :(
@antonioschioppa5669
@antonioschioppa5669 3 месяца назад
@@scarletr.7753 grazie a te Scarlet...si ho letto attentamente il tuo blog dove racconti tutto in modo preciso...anke io penso la stessa cosa vergognoso&corrotto il governo di Panama che ha chiuso il caso come incidente🙁
@AwakenYourself-xv1mq
@AwakenYourself-xv1mq 5 месяцев назад
Rip 😭😞 their death in my humble opinion related to organ trafficking big percentage and many events they went through simply ....what makes me sad in recape you would never know how is your end 🔚 gonna be even the start full of happiness and joy :(
@LandonAdamson
@LandonAdamson 2 месяца назад
Hey scarlet I got a question do you have any footage of Kris and Lisanne talking or them talking together?
@bambisamba3043
@bambisamba3043 5 месяцев назад
so bautiffull girls whay nobody looking for that car whit the two girls and 5 men in the car the way near panama cite look after dat 2014 controle it for the girls wij diet tis
@НатальяЯнковская-л7п
@НатальяЯнковская-л7п 4 месяца назад
Сегодня я целый день посвятила просмотру истории расследования этой ужасной трагедии. Мои икренние соболезнования родным и близким погибших девочек. Светлая память Крис и Лисанн❤️‍🩹
@4041luka
@4041luka 4 месяца назад
Говорят вышла новая книга?(привет из Украины!)
@navhgog4713
@navhgog4713 4 месяца назад
Hello Scarlet : about your video "Where are the shitty Duchies?" , it is not related to Kremers-Froon case. They are north Mexican (border) mobsters, sending a challenge to a rival gang "los holandeses" (not even Dutch) . LOS is for boys ; LAS is for girls . Best.
@Sandoz-tq7qj
@Sandoz-tq7qj 4 месяца назад
I believe in the photoshopping theory because whoever did the photoshop forget one item that the girls should have brought with them 👉an umbrella ☂ It is a must bring item for hiking. Right ?
@Gingerwhale
@Gingerwhale 5 месяцев назад
Already 10 years have passed since these two young, intelligent, beautiful girls have disappeared. Just wanted to say that, like many others around the world, they have not been forgotten. God bless you Scarlet for making this very touching video. All my sympathy goes out to Lisanne and Kris's family and friends.
@GonnyParson
@GonnyParson 5 месяцев назад
❤❤❤
@veronikat.5885
@veronikat.5885 5 месяцев назад
Dear Scarlet, thank you for the amazing job you did on this case. I'm sorry you lost your sister. I hope Kris and Lissane's souls find peace. The perpetrators of this terrible crime may have escaped worldly justice, but they will be met with another form of punishment, I have no doubt.
@vangrun579
@vangrun579 5 месяцев назад
Still hoping one day Kris and Lisanne will get justice. Beautiful tribute and thanks for all your work Scarlett. RIP angels 💔❤🪽
@Blue-Dreams719
@Blue-Dreams719 3 месяца назад
I am sorry for your loss too Scarlet. Such a beautiful girl, idk how she passed away and i'm not eager to learn beacuse i don't want you to become even more sad by telling. May she rest in peace, remember that she is still with you and one day we will reunite with our loved ones again, hopefully. First of all, sorry if my English is bad because obviously it's not my native language. i am a honest man and i want to be even more honest in this topic. I think of writing this to your blog but later i decide to write on youtube because sadly not many know your blog it seems. When i first saw this incident, i said "White liberal women all over again, they thought the rest of the world is as peaceful as their first world country" and moved on, because i know, most of this terrible and also ridiculous things are happening most of the time to our race of women. Later i saw about it even more almost in every corner of the internet, this also proves that you guys are doing a great job of making this case alive. I watched a couple of video, read articles, then finally found your channel and blog. I dived deep, search everything, anything and finally came to a conclusion that a foul play, gang related event happened with assist of 4 or 5 important figures in the case. I want to give their names because facts matters and it's angers me how people who responsible for this are freely enjoying their life. This is also the reason what makes me want to search about this topic. Some says accident, some says they lost etc etc. Anyone who is sane, smart and logical don't believe they are lost or it was an accident. I honestly don't believe it and don't care about people opinions nor i don't want to lie for the sake of not getting called racist, conspiracy theorist, liar etc because again, facts matters. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon is murdered. As a ex Navy and Special Forces, in my time in Bolivia i always noticed that foreign people have always obsessed with the European people especially women, not in a good ways. I had a female soldier (medic) in my team and their eyes was always on her that at some point, i even confront them about it. In my years of experience in life i understand that most and most of the time except your own race, every other race is hates you and see you as a sexual object. One thing European white people especially women needs to do is, be apart and don't be friendly, always on cautious against all other races. That's why Feliciano Gonzalez, his son (step?) Henry, Plinio and other his mens behaviour never surprise me. Girls were clealy naive, they were young, one is light brown hair and other is red hair (light hairs are really exotic for the brown and black foreign people) beyond beautiful that any man in Panama can dream of. This is Latin America where most shady things in the world goes on, don't ever tell me police and government did all of the things they can, no they are not because they are also controlled by the Cartels. Anyone who read your blog will understand that every time a new clue, a new thing about the incident is found the government immediately covers it up and close the case. I understand Panama government is corrupted as it is and they don't want to scare the people for the sake of their tourism but honestly i didn't expect this uninterest from a European government, this is what mostly angers me a lot. I know they also get paid by those groups to shut the case down. We know how much of a puppet European government become these days anyway. They don't mind losing a 2 citizen because they are already replacing the natives in their country with mass immigration and race mixing. I skip camera, photos, etc because they are manipulated by the third party group and they was one of the member of the small cartel group that probably recorded the assault or for proof. Feliciano spending minutes with one of his men (almost 30 min?) in girls room is not again surprise me because i know he is a women and a pleasure obsessed sick old man that who knows what kind of disgusting things he did in their bedroom with their things. Most of the criminals are superstitious and cowards, that superstitious comes from their psychopathic minds, first and one of the important things i learn in the military was Psychology. Doesn't even surprise me a bit that Europeans didn't find any of the figures responsible of the crime because you are different from them and you don't understand their way of living, beliefs, habits and the most importantly how is the country, places and how the things work in the region. You are coming from a first world country to search for your daughters, your people in a third world country that you don't really know anything about. This incident was a piece of cake for them and very common in Latin America. Feliciano is well known in Panama, maybe any other Latin countries too, he have roots, money, power, doing business in tourism almost 20+ years. I also search about him more with the help of your amazing blog, Scarlet. I can't help but admire your efforts, works and time. You would make a great detective or at least a researcher. The young members of this small cartel was already following, watching this girls from the dinner in the resturant (which i don't remember resturant name right now) to the moment they starting to hike. I draw your attention, 2 young beautiful girls with no any man (European or one of their relative) to support them and do the hike. 2 girls all by themselves, getting lost in the jungle and then found, kidnapped and assaulted by the third party group. No shocking, as it's happens every 2 or 3 months in Latin America. I must say i don't know the exact name of the third party group but i know and i come to a conclusion that they were assisted by the Feliciano, Henry and Plinio and maybe even Osman too. I can't help but being sad on seeing how much of people can be a sheep mentality. They always getting told but never search and ask it themselves. Plinio was literally told to another European couple about what happened to the girls when asked him.. He even describe that how they murdered, getting dismembered and their parts are buried in here and there. I knew this and think about this before even read it in your blog. This kind of things are many and many times was happening in Bolivia all the time. There is also a term that locals call Europeans, mostly to white women a "White Gold". Europeans are very healthy and good comparing to the many native people in Latin Americas, the third world countries. They will never going to lose a "White Gold" when they saw one, because their values are too high. Plinio even said people are always getting lost or dead and the government is simply don't care, which he is right. The only thing that makes this incident known worldwide is because they were Europeans, foreign people. Innocent local people always getting kidnapped, trafficked, murdered and many more. Government doesn't care because they are controlled, locals don't say anything about it because they are in knife edge. Their remains are even founded which i kinda don't believe that those bones were theirs but who knows maybe it's one of the girls, i don't remember if DNA search did on it. I'm 100% sure that organs gone to a trafficking. There is also a rumor that saying girls never died, they gets kidnapped and trafficked to another part of Latin America, If so they would have been found by now.. it's 10 years. It is a very much planned and very carefully planned murder, it was not their first time, they know what they were doing. It is nothing you can't do in a small place where you know most of the locals, places etc. Assisted by the one of the well known and experienced people in there.. We can't do anything about it at this point because it is finished for the Panamanian government hell maybe even for Dutch government. I want this badly that Feliciano, Henry, Plinio needs to be held accountable but who cares right?
@Blue-Dreams719
@Blue-Dreams719 3 месяца назад
@tekinfomedi Hello, good day. If you ask me, there is nothing to agree or disagree. It is just clear what happened, people just trying to make "good" assumptions for order to not being negative. It's psychological. Lost and it was an accident theory is doesn't make sense and it's already debunked. Especially when you think about all that things, deleted photo, night photos, backpack, Lisanne's seperated foot still in boot which was also very clean cut etc. I also don't know if DNA tests are did on flesh, bones etc. Kris back of the head (hair) photo was also taken on indoor it seems, it wasn't on the outdoors. As a white man, i agree that our race is overconfident when it comes to other countries and people. That's why i said "white liberal women all over again" when i first time saw about this incident, because i know i saw many times incidents like this all my life it doesn't surprise me anymore. Search about Elin Krantz also, you will understand what i mean. I don't know about the swim photo because it looks odd, bad quality and the two girls might be them or might not and i can't able to connect that photo to anything else. Also i don't know what makes them so comfortable to go in without swimwear, bikini or anything with foreign people in a foreign place. Other thing that makes me question is how calm the victims parents. No any really visible of sadness, (maybe they are, i didn't watch all the videos) like i understand, calmness, clear mind is important in this matters but your daughters are got lost with no any sign of dead or alive and yet you are not questioning it, don't search everywhere in that region properly, like imagine this happened to your daugher, you would have do whatever it takes to search that whole region, country. This brings me to a question that their parents are silenced, convinced by the government of what really happened to their daughters and paid extra to shut them to not the case become public. As this is happens many times by cartel gangs with government when it is about foreign people. Parents might know the truth, what happened but they will never tell it as they are also refuse to talk about it more and don't want to deal with it anymore. I don't know about Catherine Johannet incident but it seems like that's what happened. You can use anything as a weapon, anything. Even sand on the beach so swimwear is even more deadly when compare it to the sand. It was a grave mistake in the beginning to going to a third world country especially like Panama to volunteer work and learn Spanish, really.. This just proves how much they were liberal, confident and lived their life freely without their parents controls, approval on things etc. It seems like they were really grown as a entitled kids if that's the right word for it.
@conary77
@conary77 3 месяца назад
After having read whatever I could find online on this case in the past 3 years or so, I absolutely agree with you. I am so glad that Scarlet's blog exists, and that she keeps the case alive. I have also been wondering if Kris and Lisanne's parents were told the truth and that they were paid money to keep quiet about the case. I do think they know what happened, and they know that nothing can bring back their daughters.
@Blue-Dreams719
@Blue-Dreams719 3 месяца назад
@@conary77 Hello and yes my friend it is nothing but a murder case sadly. Scarlet is a really good person, she did amazing work and honestly i am surprised she really don't charge anything for all of her works and effort despite some losers out there stealing her work and not even give her credit. I do think the same that parents are obviously know the truth after all the years, it's been 10 years now.. and i know that cartels have really big power over the governments in latin americas. They are in a power that they literally like a police and military force in the countries and some of them also really good blending in among citizens. They do pay government to be silence when mostly it is about foreign people in their countries and when we see this incident takes place in Panama it makes fully sense that they did it for not affecting their toursim and such too.
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