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REMO Pinstripe: Oil or no oil *DEBUNKED* 

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@UCS0608
@UCS0608 Год назад
Finally!!! I already try to convince people from the fact that there's NO oil in these heads for more than 40 years. I write for a Dutch musicmagazine in the Netherlands and did an article about different type of drumheads a couple of years ago. After publishing the editors got emails from several readers because I didn't catagorize the pinstripes under "hydrolic heads"....😁 I didn't, because they are NOT! What you see (the rainbow colors) are so called Newton rings, caused by light through the two thin plies. BTW, maybe next time take an older head! 😉
@cymbalrider
@cymbalrider 2 года назад
Evans Hydraulics have the oil between the plies. Remo Pinstripes only have the treatment around the edges. The Ebony Pinstripes have a thicker top ply and a thinner bottom one.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Год назад
That’s explains why the Ebony Pinstripes have a different feel. I always suspected they were thicker overall. My drums sounded like cardboard boxes with the Ebony Pinstripes. Great for a practice kit and tuned low for a low noise kit.
@danlc95
@danlc95 3 года назад
Around 1999 Remo changed the construction of the PinStripe to have a more open tone. This is when they stopped adhering the plies together, and started using what they called a "dry layer" of "ring reducing agent". This info is in the Modern Drummer with Thomas Lang on the cover. I want to say it was some time in 1999 or 2000.
@Monsterdrumma
@Monsterdrumma 2 года назад
Yeah I preferred them when they were less resonant before the change. I tried them recently and was confused as to why they were so resonant and my friend said they changed them but didn’t tell me how so I am glad I seen your comment.
@ivanbajovic3476
@ivanbajovic3476 2 года назад
I had old Pinstripes made before 1999, and my cheap Sonor Force 507 with that heads sounded like a Ludwig. Now, with new Pinstripes sounds like a cheap drum kit.
@gogo2957
@gogo2957 Год назад
before was any oil???
@wrg1183
@wrg1183 Год назад
Mandela effect, we remember oil in the 80s.
@gogo2957
@gogo2957 Год назад
so before Pinstripe was with oil???
@bluewaveproductions4017
@bluewaveproductions4017 Год назад
The fuzzy stuff is for design. Evans does their version with a hexagon like pattern
@machinethedrummer
@machinethedrummer 3 года назад
I also always thought that there was some kind of oily substance in there. The wording by Remo is also a little misleading, as they state that Pinstripes have “an overtone reducing agent applied between the 2 plies”. Based on your experiment, it looks more like there’s an overtone reducing agent applied to the bottom of the top ply. If you could do Ebony Pinstripes next, I’m curious to know if the thicker ply is on the bottom or the top. The other interesting thing is that clear Emperors don’t refract light in this way and produce oily colours. So it’s that rough surface coating on the bottom of the top ply that’s doing it. Thanks!
@danlc95
@danlc95 3 года назад
The ring reducing agent is around the perimeter. It's sometimes on the top or bottom ply. I even had one come through where the fuzzy stuff was on the outside, under the playing surface.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Год назад
Remo must have changed the specs on Pinstripe heads. I used to hate Pinstripes but the newer versions sound very similar to Emoerors. I have a set of Ebony Pinstripes that truely sound like cardboard boxes. Pinstripes always felt very “thuddy” to me, even the clear ones. My suspicions are that at some point Remo stopped gluing the 2 heads at the perimeter. I never throw used drum heads away but I DO have a 22” Pinstripe that I removed one ply from to use as a reso head. I’ll have to dig that head up and see if the edges are glued.
@JeremiasRuiz87
@JeremiasRuiz87 3 года назад
Thanks for your sacrifice! It wort it.
@josefelix7313
@josefelix7313 Год назад
That myth haunted me for so many years...
@dirtysouthhc2936
@dirtysouthhc2936 Год назад
It's just the two plies making a prism effect
@DoubleD_93
@DoubleD_93 3 года назад
I believe it's thin film interference causing the colours, much like the rainbows that form in soap bubbles
@lovecraftmusic8717
@lovecraftmusic8717 2 года назад
it's simply called opalescence
@erikhamann
@erikhamann 3 года назад
I‘m blown away, that there is apparently not that much difference to an Emperor. Yet it sounds very different.
@albertomedrano1886
@albertomedrano1886 Год назад
You got it! No oil...
@coldpizzasoda8641
@coldpizzasoda8641 Год назад
The black line rubs right off with lacquer thinner or acetate. I found out by accident.
@SandroMancino
@SandroMancino 3 года назад
FYI all plastics have a constant oily film on them. This is the reason painting plastics is so challenging.
@namesake7139
@namesake7139 2 года назад
It's magic! Come on now
@gregorius4648
@gregorius4648 Год назад
If jerry rig everything was a drummer
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 года назад
Interesting.
@karan6457
@karan6457 2 года назад
I'm from Trinidad and there is something called tassa, you can look up tassa on RU-vid. And my drums are 13 inch LOL
@saulhudson302
@saulhudson302 2 месяца назад
Is there a way to remove a layer without destroying it ? To be used as a reso ?
@icomedia1
@icomedia1 2 месяца назад
No. Both layers are crimped in the rim
@saulhudson302
@saulhudson302 2 месяца назад
@@icomedia1 Hi again, after we spoke I got a skapel and carefully cut the top layer off completely leaving me with a 7.5 clear reso skin. I got the idea from your video, the top skin when cut on an angle with a sharp tool cut easily without harming the bottom layer.Then I just cut the little pieces around the hoop with scissors and ripped them out by hand little pieces. . Thanks anyway bro , you should try it....I did it on Remo Encore, cheaper pinstripe. 🥁✌
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie 2 года назад
One other thing to note: the files are IN the computer.
@skwark56
@skwark56 2 года назад
for anyone who may not have already know this... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ot31HbyOlWE.html - the whole video is really interesting and informative, but :38 to 1:08 is where the focus is
@tonyjackson4099
@tonyjackson4099 2 года назад
It's just tooling lubricant leftover from the manufacturing process.
@catrevenger
@catrevenger 2 года назад
Thank you for the upload and the good explanation you made, but sorry brother... It is big sin to sacrifice brand new drum head... For some people like me that drum heads are not very accessible... Instead to do that video, you can easy show how the drum heads are made in the factory of REMO. Anyway, thank you for the video, cheers!
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