How to remove painted Artex from a ceiling. The easy way. Always check for asbestos and lead based paint. If in doubt wear a respirator and change your clothing when finished.
@@cglees I’ve got a whole bathroom of the stuff and walls. Will this be worth tackling as they’re going to charge 1500 for stripping whole bathroom out.
Thanks for the tip, it’s excellent! Just the sort of tip I was looking for. But I’m playing safe, and getting my ceiling tested for asbestos first the results will be back in a few days. The asbestos dust Very dangerous on the lungs.
in the late 70s i was artexing walls & ceilings without thinking about Asbestos never had a problem i must be one of the lucky ones but the mess you made & time its taken I hope your not charging someone to do, as plaster over is safest & quickest. Of course you could just leave. IMO
I am so thankful that you shared this! my son has a high bed, and this stupid textured ceiling and he injured his hands when he accidentally scraped his knuckles on it. just tried window cleaner on it and its coming off!
Hi, yes you could but it is not level to begin with so you will need a lot of plaster to cover the high spots. That’s why I like to scrape it all back to a fairly even surface and then skim over to finish off. Thanks for the comment
@@cglees You could make it even with bonding first, then skim it. It doesn't look that deep a texture. Either way its good to know that window cleaner is an option for removing it.
What about your camera lady’s respirator? And what about the rest of the protective gear? And why didn’t you seal off the room? And why did you take the respirator off? 🙈. Aspestos is no joke!!! Am I wrong?
I've been a plasterer for 20 + years and I would not advise anybody to do this as popcorn ceiling as you put it is what is known as stipple pattern one of the oldest patterns and yes more often than not crysotile asbestos so this isn't a good idea as even with a dust mask it goes everywhere it is best to seal it either pva or green grit plasterers primer and encapsulate it skim over it not disturbing it DONT SCRAPE IT ....as worth notiing without getting it tested you can't tell weather asbestos or not and also in the comb patterns and swirl broken leather is the patterns of the 80s and even that can have it in ....
Thanks for your comment. I advised a proper respirator, like I am wearing in the video. I also advised cleaning it up whilst it’s still wet and disposing of it properly. Pretty much every house in the UK built in the 60’s or 70’s has this stuff, personally I’d rather remove it completely and dispose of it properly rather than hide it under another coat of plaster. Pretty sure your advice would breach H&S rules in the uk, you can’t hide asbestos because no one in the future will know it’s there. Your options are leave it or remove and dispose of properly. But then again as a professional plasterer it’s easier and more profitable for you to just spend a few hours skimming over it, take the cash and run
No not the case at all I work for council contracts aswell as private customers and that happens more often than not same as marley floor tiles they encapsulate it using self leveling it doesn't breach any H and S laws as its normally documented and I work alongside asbestos removal companies and I could go on trust me asking Joe public to do what you are asking isn't a good idea when proper asbestos removal companies do it the room is cleared and looks like a crime scene and an air test is done afterwards you arecthe one putting people at risk....
@@paulnaylor6035 Sounds like you’re doing it the right way if it’s all documented, but that’s the key point, documenting the fact that the asbestos has been hidden from view. All well and good so long as that information is passed on each time the house is sold. Sounds like you’re doing a good job anyway. The reality is most UK houses of a certain age have this crap on the ceiling, certainly the vast majority in my area. People are taking a risk every time they install a new light fitting, remove coving or even just redecorating - rubbing, sanding and prepping for painting. I personally think we should be removing Artex and disposing of it properly. When I do the work I wear a respirator and the room is sealed and isolated, I clean up whilst it’s wet so there is no dust and bag it and dispose of it properly. That way the risk is removed from the house permanently. I agree with you that if you don’t know how to handle asbestos then you shouldn’t, but we all know that DIY’ers will try to scrape it off themselves. At least my video makes it safer for them. There are HWRC that take asbestos if it’s correctly bagged and they even provide the bags to members of the public in my area. Peace out dude keep up the good work.
Yep likewise 👍 it all depends on the job if bowed or flaking then you have a problem but if not broken don't try and fix it alot of the time it's a cosmetic thing as it's dated and people want it flat there's plenty of you tube videos showing how to skim ceilings .....😁
@@paulnaylor6035 yeah dude you clearly know more about it than me for sure, I’m not a professional. I’m just trying to help the have a go heroes out there who will try to do this themselves despite the risk and warnings.
I am at the point of either removing almost every wall and ceiling of artex or leaving it on and selling up. Apparently almost all artex pre-1990 will have asbestos in it.
This is amazing. Did you end up doing all your walls? Would be keen to hear a follow up. I've purchased a house that is full of the stuff but having recently lost my job I'm keen to try and sort it myself.
DarkShadowAy hey buddy! Yeah it does work, takes a while but you get there in the end. The alternative is to roughly scratch it off and then plaster over the top or to over board with new plasterboard (drywall). I ended up putting a skim of plaster over the top to make it nice and even. It is a horrendously tedious task whichever way you try, it took me weeks doing it around work. But I can honestly say that the satisfaction you have at the end is well worth it. Sorry you lost your job, maybe this will give you something to focus your mind on. Good luck with it!
Trick is to scrape it off while it’s still wet so don’t leave it long enough to dry out. Larger the area you spray greater the chance of it drying out before you scrape it all.
Well i've got a ceiling like that and tried a few things but none of them was good enough. Bought some x-tex but just realised i've got a few layers of painting on it too (some silky one i think so, peeling off easily) and because of that im ended up with some gooey mess. Tried to skim over with joint compound (did not use pva, do i need anyway?) but it comes off few places. Im gonna remove the extra layer of painting first then the artex texture with x-tex.
Hi I’m not familiar with x-tex. Sounds like if you’ve got a gooey mess then you have not removed all of the paint/top layer of artex. Maybe try scraping it harder or leaving whatever you are using to soak in longer. I’m not a plaster by the way so not technical advice here just a DIY. I would maybe chuck a coat of PVA mixed with water or even easier what I do is just mix some standard emulsion with water 50/50 and splash that everywhere
@@cglees Yeah i was thinking about the same, as i've seen leaving the extra layer of painting on artex could cause that goey mess especially if it one of those silky paintings. I'll try a few things next week, will let you know what's happened, thanks for the fast reply by the way 👍
@@kocsis1978 good luck with it thanks for your comment. I find that most emulsion is water based and will go all “funny” if you put wet plaster or wallpaper paste on it, even if you try to wipe a stain off with a wet cloth! So yeah get it sealed with PVA or something. Good luck with it 👍
Hi, you will need to wear a suitable respirator and dispose of the dust correctly if it’s asbestos. In terms of safety, this method won’t make it less safe. In fact the wetter it is the less dust, just make sure you clear up before the dust dries out
I ordered a test kit off tinternet 30 quid and results came back in 2 days. (Negative) Then you know what you are dealing with whatever method. Don’t take a risk.
@@cglees good stuff, I’ll be following suit when we complete on a 2000square foot bungalow which the same artex. After making this video, any additional recommendations you’d suggest bud?
@@stevedelaney9912 good luck. I suggest getting it as wet as possible so there is no dust and bagging up when still wet. You get the bags from the HWRC. Laborious soul destroying job but worth it for the end result.
It took me some time to get rid of that in my house. I was using a wallpaper steamer. It was just peeling of nicely in big bits and it worked quite well on most of the rooms but a living room is nightmare that's why I'm trying to find a different way. I'll try with your idea. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. What are your thoughts on just taking down the whole ceiling and reboarding, verses lots of scraping and then plastering over? I'm doing a full renovation of a house that has artex on every ceiling, and thinking it may be easier to just pull the whole ceiling down, rewire, and then put fresh pb up. Will obviously cost a 2 or 3 hundred in pb, but will make the rewire a lot easier for the electrition which should reduce the cost of that item of work.
It’s an option. But you will get a lot of dust from the asbestos if you just rip it down, not recommended unless you’ve got the proper equipment and safety precautions. Also the plasterboard ceiling, you can’t put that in a regular skip in the UK so you’d need a skip just for the plasterboard (if you do it by the book!) You could just overboard the whole ceiling with new PB, you’ll lose 15-20mm head space
In terms of asbestos, I would imagine this is the worst method of removal other than literally sanding it off. The asbestos is bound by the plaster and doing no harm, then you come along and dissolve the plaster, thereby freeing the asbestos fibres.
