Removing an old "A" base Electrical meter 

Hope you have a great weekend too Aaron! Fixing to rain here. The working man’s curse. Nice and hot all week and rains all weekend.

Didn't notice, but I'll look for it.

Enjoy video I am about to upgrade from 100 Amp to 200 I am watching and living on cape cod My electrician said have call Eversource and see what meter rating was 30 mins later there records said meter 200 Amp my neighbor had 200 Amp meter but feed was 3 AWG so he had to update weather head to meter wire to house rated 200 Amp so see what happens 30 days How about general statement what do today meters and wire street to house Thanks time

Your only human Aaron, we forgive you. Keep going strong electric superman 💪

Enjoying your content while staying at the hotel after being married. One of the highlights of the stay!

Same here. I collect the Old ones, got about 500 or so.

Have to say I will look up those older meters .Good job guys.

I like meter collections. One of those rarely saved items, and when you find a REAL old one it's quite cool.

i am going to study for electrician, at 40 years of age is that to late ?

Yeah I've seen lamps made like that I've always wanted to make one for myself as well and of course having to meet her actually registering the current that the bulb is using! I thought about building a coat tree that looks like an old-fashioned lamp post with other utilities on it. Although one of the boxes would be a dummy just for a piggy bank for change! And one of the small boxes would be where the boxes that would have the photocell attached to the top with the twist the lock receptacle and that would actually be controlling lights that would be dusted on inside. My plan was to use glass insulators is coat hooks. The post light AKA street light like the gumball type pictures or whatever you want to call them would have a vintage globe. In addition to just being a stared lamp they would also be a candelabra night light socket in there as well. And have what looks like an old junction box outdoor type with an old school oval or other cover at the bottom of the pole but have the plate for that modified to take a Decor type device and have four USB charging ports in place of receptacle there you wouldn't notice until you open it up. And of course all the power going through everything would be actually registered a meter that's actually working! I'm also possibly thinking about building a power monitor into a meter box including a Clearwater meter just as a test device but receptacles and a power Inlet and perhaps a heavy duty switch just for bench and of course have other meters and such installed in the cabinet or attached! Had opportunity to get some old electric meters years ago I wish I would have taken them up on it all the new meters were going in the old ones are going out this was before Smart Meters they were just the electronic ones back then not even remote readable

Damn

Kah-RAY-zee!

Wow!

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How far out you talking

NYC is a maze of underground conduit and tunnels. It is crazy how much is there and most is still in use. Very little is abandoned.

Your absolutely right... Lots of individuals don't know that....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

We’re you there for the 2nd avenue fire?

@@maxdutiel That fire happen February 1975.... It mess up the whole telephone network for about 11/2 mouth....

@@maxdutiel you want to hear something crazy, I live in underground switching network for 2yrs rent free in new York city... (I save tons of money)🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was making very good money and had very little bills to pay out....

I was surprised how fast when they replaced ours with a smart meter (so they can remotely read) how fast it was. Got everything ready, opened the panel, pulled the meter, plugged the new one, closed it up. Took longer to record the serial numbers on everything than do the entire rest of the job.

i actually have a 25 amp meter that i am still using on one of my small out buildings, it's fed off my house via underground. it's from the early 20's and still works, the building is wired with K&T and the panel is wood with slate fuse boards

@@gtb81. That's awesome! The only time I've seed slate boards is with Delco light plants. My husband collects those.

@@heatherkohlwey8379 I've always wanted one, i have thought of building a wash house for my workshop using 1920's stuff, it'd be cool to run it off a light plant! i have lots of early electrical stuff including a light bulb from the 1890's that still works! I'm an electrician so i love this stuff, and will still put it back to work!

@@gtb81. My husband is an electrician also. We have one of every Delco model made but one and quite a few other rare brands all 32 volt DC. We have a trailer and display at gas engine shows.

Often times, old buildings that are rarely used still have power for occasional visits. The owner may keep the breaker until they stop by... Or they have been shut off for a temporary disconnect. In our area, after two years of there is no usage and they're temp disconnected, we will remove and dismantle the service. If it's active with no usage, we'll investigate and possibly disconnect as well

There should be a monthly charge for the hookup and billing expense.

They call me, RUBBERNECK!

The more remote end customers get one transformer per customer. The power company can provide more power over the same gauge cable if they do that. In the cities and suburbs there are multiple end consumers per transformer. My split phase power comes point that supplies power to four end customers in a star configuration. High density end users, apartment buildings, may have 208Y120 supplied and the line side of the meter connected to 2 of the 3 phases.

@@steveschulte8696 I moved to a rural location and noticed that... I have my own transformer, same with everyone else. In my old neighborhood around town the entire street was fed off one. Makes sense, can't feed 240 for miles.

In Belgium some old city streets are also fed split phase system 3*230 volts. That"s 230v between phases and 127v between phase and ground. Its a bit different than in North America, they get 3 phases in. And sockets are wired with 2 phases and neutral is not used.

@@larsvd5354 this is a standard 3phase Y connected service with greater voltage between neutral and hot. The 127 volts are not in phase with the 230.

@@steveschulte8696 as the apartment dweller I do know that this is fact on the apartments side of things

New ones are even easier to read…from the truck from a ways away. I used an SDR to read mine one night. Left it running overnight and by morning I had 42 meters including a demand meter nearby. They repeat every minute, but demand does every 10s.

Definitely gonna keep the old intro file! Was thinking about continuing to use it with longer videos

I dont know anything about these meters. I have 1 question for you, if you don't mind. Do you like the newer meters used, or the good old fasioned ones. If given a choice?

@@choke666 that's interesting. And it depends. The newer ones can do so much more. They can measure reactive power, depending on the model. They have communications capabilities, they can tell you when you are using power, etc. They can also sense tampering. The old ones though are darned reliable, and it's amazing how long they can last and remain accurate. But for the most part, unless fitted with electronic registers, can only give a total of kWh used. Some have a few other features, but they are just incredibly well engineered mechanical devices.

Pretty much same here, other then 3 phase metering. The only reason we're installing these adapters is because it's at our company's request. Even if we contacted the work out to an electrician, we would have to be on site. The electrician aren't allowed to cut our seals or work in the meter box while energized

In Connecticut when upgrading the electricians will pull the meter and disconnect/reconnect from the service drop. When they install a new meter can they will put in jumpers to jump from the line to the load side. The utility will then come and put in a new meter at there convenance.

the whole damn province was out of freakin power

Opening the cutout before the transformer* 😉

@@Engineer9736 lol, I stand corrected ;)

Appreciate the sub! Great to meet you JB! 🤝👊

Yes sir same here!!

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@@ShainAndrews Triggered by a cartoon frog are we? Your comment made my day. Thank you.

Cheers brother! Hopefully ya have a quiet weekend 👊👊

@@Bobsdecline we stayed on for a 16 yesterday. A 3 phase vertical double dead end corner pole got hit

Oh dang, those are never fun... Switching and traffic alone are half the job! Being a corner pole makes it wayy worse too We had one last week with 69kv on the top and three phase distribution bank on the same pole. The boys were some busy !

@@Bobsdecline so I requested them to tie circuits so we can separate circuits at the taps on the vertical in order to be able to transfer it without jumpers. They said they had to set the regs at the sub to no auto in order to tie the breakers but they couldn’t do it via supervisory (remotely) that they would need to send a multi(technician) to manually do it and it could take up to 3/4 hours of standing down in order to do so. So we opted to use the jumpers. Didn’t want to wait around lol. I’ll email you a few pics.

Oh yeah for sure! And we know that 3/4 hours probably means 5-6 hours! Sounds good man!

I'm in southern Maine. When our power company was swapping out analog meters there was such an uproar that the company had to hold off. Finally, they were given the go-ahead to install them, but the customer had the option to opt out. If they did opt out, they paid a $5.00/month reading fee. That fee has jumped dramatically now. The one I remember most was in a commercial building in a meter room with 14 other meters. All of the meters were changed but one.

I've seen a few videos today... That's quite the wind you guys got! Scary stuff

You one of the lads comming to otawa?? Cold beer and blue collar pub

Probably not, buncha buddies left yesterday! I went out to the last storm this winter so if our group sends any trucks I'll likely be too far down on the rotation

This BiL of yours wouldn't be named Corey Lahey by any chance, yoknow what I'm sayinnnnnn?

@@gorak9000 No, lol

@@gorak9000 Trevor Corey, Corey Trevor...

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Smart meters do have a tamper alert

Yep, same as I read it :)

That's why I like the old analog meters best when I had my solar power supply.

300 Watts isn't bad. We're at about 600-700 Watts parasitic load here. We have a lot of people living here, so I'm not surprised. And at our peak over the last few weeks, I think we've reached 12 kilowatts of load. Again, we have a lot of people living here. If I see household power usage go above 2kw between 5-9pm, when electricity is most expensive without a valid reason being given to me, that's when I get upset.

@@ashtentheplatypus Highest full draw I've gotten was around that high (12kw). That was with my PHEV charging, AC running, microwave running, and my toaster oven running. There's only 2 of us in the house and my home is small (900 sq/ft with a basement). I went solar because I was tired of $100 bills in winter and $180 in the summer, plus I suffer from 2 - 4 power failures a year, anywhere from a few hours to a solid, 5 day week. I work from home so having electricity is important, and the cable company is pretty good at putting a generator on my node to keep it going. I have a flat rate plan from the power company, tiered based by consumption. 0 to 500kw is one rate, 501 to 800 is another higher rate, >800 is an even higher rate. There is an option for a TOD rate. Unfortunately the power company here does not do net metering - they do something called "Distributed Generation" which isn't super great - I do get like .998% inflow to outflow pricing based on kw/h, but they do not credit back any distribution charges that I consume from the utility. IE - I use 100kw for the billing period from the utility, push out 250kw. I'll get a bill credit for the 150kw, but I get socked with 100kw of distribution charges, and those don't use any credit earned - gotta pay them that. I basically can't get a 0 bill from them unless I get a really big battery and try to go self-sustaining. For me, my 26kw/h of storage isn't enough.

@@russael001 Oh, heck! That's really lame! Tbh, I think there needs to be some kind of government decisions regarding how net metering works. I know one of the theoretical situations I frequently hear is: "If everyone goes net zero, who'll pay for our electrical infrastructure???" I'm not an expert, but that doesn't sound difficult to solve. Especially not if there's some kind of government intervention to standardize it all. Worst case scenario, it'll end up being just like our roads, where it gets paid solely by tax dollars. And that's assuming that that idea is correct in that everyone will be net zero. In short, that seems really crummy that you can't go zero on your energy bill.

@@ashtentheplatypus It's not all gloom and doom. My last bill was $13.65 (normally would be around 100 at this time of year). And everybody pays in to the infrastructure, but I never hear about the utilities doing any upgrades. My state (part of MISO) is predicting power shortages this year and potential rolling blackouts. It's confusing to me a little - appliances, lighting, electronics, etc. are all getting more efficient, and yes, EVs and PHEVs are a thing that is happening, but that's been coming for well over 10 years; I think that would've been plenty of time to do some upgrades. But the utilities didn't. And my utility charges some of the highest rates for power in the country, but they say because its customers generally use less power, that the bills balance out. Excuse me? How do you rationalize that? That's like saying a vehicle automatically doesn't drive as much if gas prices are high. Sounds like priorities were on investors to me. Oh, and for what its worth, the gas tax that you pay at the pump that is supposed to pay for road infrastructure is typically diverted away to other programs. Probably why the roads in my state are considered trash. Diesel fuel has very little tax, and generally it's the big rigs that destroy the roads, carrying 80k lbs. A single passenger car (even if it were one of the heaviest) doesn't do a thing to the road.

I agree 100%! Also, often times, meters get blamed for issues that were actually caused by poor connections on the main wires that began heating up!

@@Bobsdecline The "best" part of people blaming the meter is that on the rare occasion that the meter is actually incorrect, it is to the customer's benifit 😅

Absolutely! I've seen "stopped" meters, but never meters that sped up!

What’s exactly the difference between RF meters and smart meters? Google wasn’t of any help…

An RF meter simply allows a meter reader to capture the reading on a small handheld device from a short distance away. A smart meter can be read right from the office. It can also tell us when your power is out, how much consumption is being used and be remotely shut off for disconnects. There's also apps that can help a homeowner figure out how to better manage consumption. I'm not overly family with them yet, but there's definitely a lot of benefits for both the company and home owner