Your welcome. be careful on the shroud you may want to wrap it with a cool carbon fiber looking vinyl wrap then toss a hand brake on it, sounds can be tricky if they keep getting loose or are over tighten it will keep changing the harmonics of the barrel then the P O I may change along with it.
Damn that is a crazy design, I remember thinking I hope that set screw will be enough to hold this brake in place, little did I know. I ran a dremel w/a diamond tipped wheel along the seam to split it. Now I'm doin a recrown and will use a golf club handle as a brake since mines not noisy.
LOL keep your eye on air rifle head quarters they have listed in their "specials " sometimes they have 6" hand brakes that had a slight in perfect in the finish, that would look a lot nicer / unless your golf club handle looks tactile LOL that would be cool.
Actually I have a golf club brake on another gun that looks and performs great. Theres a dealer at a flea market that has assorted grips and some are designed for arthritis sufferers, these are thick and look like a proper brake, fits perfectly & feels great as well..
Hi Mike, great video! I’ve got a .22 cal Hatsan 135 QE. I want to get a barrel with more than the 10.6” rifled length. Hatsan won’t sell me a 17.7” non-QE barrel. I will try shopping the used market. Will the 95, 125 or other barrels work on the 135s? Thanks for sharing so much good info.
Hi Dennis the 95 will not but a 125 will , there is a Suttle difference in the cocking arm length but it will still work/ FYI I can re barrel them with a Loather Walther barrel if that interest you, but its not cheap if it does let me know I will give you my email for further discussion/ also.25 is the best caliber for that guns shot cycle and are accurate with a good barrel
@@MrSteppingstone888 Thanks very much for the info! I'll look around for a used 125, or 135 barrel or maybe a parts gun. If I don't have any luck, I might give you a shout about re-barreling. Regards, Dennis
@@DDAllen612 Only problem is hatsan barrels its a 50/ 50 chance that you either get a good one or a bad one or a ho hum barrel I would drop the hatsan and buy a Gamo the have good hammer forged barrels good triggers and this model has a 5 year warranty check it out its on sale gamousa.com/product/hunter-extreme-pro-22-break-barrel-air-rifle/
Hi Mike, I returned the Model 95 back to Airgun Depot. If I do decide to go with another Hatsan, I think it will be the Model 125 Vortex in .22 cal. I will push a pellet through as you suggested. I hope the next one is a massive improvement over the last one, that Model 95 was very depressing. I guess I am a little spoiled by an RWS Model 48 that I owned years ago, I could shoot the heads off of wooden matches at 100 feet consistently, to the point where it became boring. I regret selling it now.
Ok the 125th has a shorter length of pull I have one they feel great. a consistent "light" drag thru the bore is what you hoping for, let me know what you get if its not perfect there stil a good chance the barrel will be good, if the bore to pellet fit is "too tight" traveling down thru the barrel, you can fire lap the bore with metal grinding paste. but Iam talking where it feels un consistant and chopy tite/ smooth consistant and tite is what you hope for O riley's auto sells it ,you get course and fine in one packet, but be very careful I ruined a bore over doing it. its also a pain getting the barrel cleaned out so that will; have to be done properly running warm water thru it , stuffing patches back to back with goo gone etc on and on you have to get that grinding stuff out
Michael Burke You can put your own ram in it, the crossman xl ram it has nitrogen probably last 4 ever lol only 30 shipped . You have a lathe you can make your own adapters or grab them from me I have them made already/ crosman .com has a parts list for each rifle you pul up then click on the pdf file for diagram grab the number of the xl ram from the Benjamin trail xl series they will be the same no mater what caliber then call crosman give them the part # and the part name / grab a new seal from Jm air rifle head quarters says hatsan 135 seal the factory seals burn up toss it in the trash lol
Hello Mike. I had a Hatsan Model 95 .22 cal with the vortex piston, the best grouping I could manage at 20 yards was 5 inches, shooting at 100 yards with the sun at my back, you could watch pellet corkscrew in a helix about the size of a basketball. It would do this in a bench vise, artillery hold, sand bagged and with all different types of pellets. The (crown), and I use that word loosely, looked like it was manufactured with an angle grinder and a bastard file, or the entire process was skipped. I gave it my best try to get the darned thing to shoot straight, but after about 800 pellets I sent it back for a replacement. It appears that there is no possible way to properly re crown these barrels without destroying the hand brake and voiding the warranty. Do you have any suggestions on how to re crown the barrel while leaving the brake somewhat intact? Thank you for any information you might have. PS, I do have a mill and a lathe, but is the time and effort to make the Model 95 shoot properly really worth it, or should I just go for the Benjamin Nitro Piston 2 where the crown can be accessed with an allen wrench?
Hi Mike. besides the crown you should check the pellet to bore fit first, hatsan has had bad barrels a little while back only latley have I seen the improvements coming thu. put a pellet into the breech and slowly push the pellet down the bore, you are feeling what the pellet drag is like/. typical on a hatsan ,the pellet would be hard going thru the barrel block area then start to free up with slight drag to lose areas on the way down. their should be a choke at the end before the pellet is out, not at the face of the barrel but just inside about 1/2" inside. if your bore fit is loose having barely any drag your bore is over sized. try bigger head pellets and flaring the skirts or if you can send the rifle back again. If you have a good barrel try using a shop press rig something up see what you can come up with, since you are re corwning maybe a door hinge pin may slip past the front of the muzzle break and seat into the crown or face of barrel not having the break off you wont be able to face the barrel off or see clearly what your doing and you will want to do the Q tip test making sure you have no snags and any cotton pulling on the land & grooves after you crown the barrel stuff some patches into the barrel at the crown end while you do any work to keep any shaven out. So far I seen nice crown barrels and barrels faced properly with good chokes and nice pellet to bore fit my 95 bore is to tite I'll need to carefully fire lap the bore using metal grinding compound paste, it will be hard to clean out the barrel will need to be off-for that. I have not tried the other barrel lapping compounds only store bought fine & course from O Riley's auto store. proably be better to use the on line bore grinding compound. hope all this helps Mike
Hi Mike. I just got my first hatsan, a 125th in .177 and I'm a longtime tinkerer just new to hatsan so I've been bingewatching your videos and they've already proven to be an invaluable resource. I seem to have an extremely tight bore as well. Accuracy is acceptable with the two(out of 10) pellets I have that will easily seat but I suspect it's robbing me of a couple fpe. My question is do you have a video on fire lapping or could you possibly summarize the method you would use?
Hi Ed Did you clean the bore before checking pellet to bore fit ,other wise it can give you a bad reading. . Also is the bore to pellet tight but smooth or does it feel tight and rough at times. use a skiny rod with smoother over end so it does not push into the pellet skirt. .177 cal in those guns is pretty unsuitable because the power and the bore size just makes for the worst shot cycle .22 is better but .25 is the best and helps smooth that shot cycle. tight but smooth bore is ok but if you do fire lapping you need to be careful because its super easy to ruin the bore making it over sized. I use bore lapping compound put some in the bore and dip the pellet head in the compound and shoot about seven pellets then clean it all out & do another pellet to bore fit test. if you over do it and the bore is not making proper contact with the pellet it will cause more recoil and your scopes will get blown/here is wheeler lapping compound its on sale . www.midwayusa.com/product/1006411564?pid=486249 there are a lot of reasons for bad accuracy, especially in these big magnums , crosman pellets need to be cleaned or they can foul a bore, I do mine 2X then after they dry I lightly spritz a thin coat of WD40 using my hand to spread the coating but not over doing it. could bee the breech seal is not above the barrel block enough could be the barrel pivot bolt needs to be tighter , etc etc
@@MrSteppingstone888 hey Mike, thanks for the input. I first did a normal cleaning and then lapped like I do my powder burners with jb paste and a carrier oil. And afterwards could barely seat any pellet all the way without smashing the skirts. Then I did a pellet to bore fit test like you show in your other videos. The breech was noticably tight within the breech block and then looser until the last couple inches towards the muzzle where there was just a little bit of noticable resistance. I ended up running about a half dozen rabbit magnums through it that I'd rolled in a fine lapping compound and then polished again with jb paste. That seemed improve the pellet to bore fit about 50% and then I actually ended up tuning the power down from 25fpe to around 22fpe with my preferred 8.5-10.5 grain pellets. But you weren't kidding about the recoil. It's definitely a challenge to enjoy shooting it. I also watched where you explained why the .25 is the perfect match to the 125s power plant and picked up one of those on your advice. And what a night and day difference in manners and shot cycle. That one I actually tuned up a bit and although it's a bear to cock and manage, it is huge fun and a delight to shoot pushing 24 grain hornets at 36 fpe. It's a good workout and demands perfect attention to form and follow through, but it's now my favorite, most fun break barrel to shoot.
@@edwardmyirski7964 I have vorteck inc afer market springs and make custom delrin spring guides & top hat if its a springer and if its a vortek gas ram I rebuild them properly the factory one will eventually fail I am glad to here your on top of it👍 those stupid QE 10-1/2" barrels work if they are good but longer barrel is best for those rifles its part of what helps the shot cycle
That’s an interesting idea... have you tried it? I have a 125 Vortex Camo in .22 and I want to add a moderator from TKO or something that will both reduce the noise report and aid in cocking like the 125 sniper.
@@greg6162 yes I had to replace the cracked front grabber assembly , hot water then slide off, hot water on the new piece , slide back on , water temperature of brewed coffee , 10 minute complete job, this video is a horrible idea
+Michelle Rock I can but honestly I tell people its not worth it, when you add shipping both ways and parts & labor you be much better off buying a nice R 9 air guns of Arizona has a Hw 95 special for 299.95 they had that for a good while. www.airgunsofarizona.com/ hatsan rifles are for people who can do their own work or people who hunt and want the big magnum power but they are very rough and over built and over sprung and need a full going over with up grade spring and a slight detune to tame them with custom delrin made guides. for me I enjoy the projects but pretty much tired of them now and just kept a few that still are not finished as I bought German rifles with refined German quality. the R 9 is thee perfect size air rifle like the Winchesters of air rifles last R 9 I tuned was 249.00 shipped back thats custom made guide and top hat, new up grade spring new piston seal breech seal, honed and molly lubed piston drilled and buttoned. trigger gone over even a well made German air rifle has room for being tuned if you want the absolute best out of it, and my prices are fair, tuners charge way more I even do the trigger tune and include it. Mike
Probably but when I had my Xl I had not yet worked on airguns nor knew about the shroud, I buy crosman parts for projects so I have several of those complete shrouds. be careful to not over tighten the shroud it will change the harmonics on the barrel or bow the barrel. proaby be good to use the blue locktite and just tighten it in to where it stops under normal threading in.
Mike Ellingsworth** Mr Stepping Stone*** I’ve noticed it’s quite a bit older than the 125 sniper and the 135 QE in .22 I was looking to possibly add a moderator which will also aid better in cocking than this plastic muzzlebrake... as I don’t shoot open sights. Do you know what kind of adapter I would need to get a TKO or something similar quality?
