Ren - Dumb King Come (King Dotta Diss) 

Dissed him, apologized for getting personal, then picked homie back up with wisdom and inspiration, and wishes him well. What a man.

How the fuck does Ren always put his humanity first, even when dissing someone? I've said it before and I'll say it again. This man is the most complete person on the internet. And I mean that as the highest of compliments.

Ren just killed his first Diss and still brought it back to - I must not forget, we must not forget.. we are human beings

I seriously want to thank dotta for giving us the opportunity to see ren do this. It was beyond anything I could have expected!!❤❤❤❤

"I genuinely mean it when I say you should shine. I just played you at your game, so welcome to mine" F🔥🔥🔥 YES! ⚡⚡⚡

Ren, I'm 67 years old & when I grow up I hope I am as gracious as you.

RIP Dotta. The voice we never needed to hear. 😂

Never in my life, did I think I'd ever hear a "kill 'em with kindness" diss track. Coming from the 2pac/Biggie era, this knocked me off my chair. So different, so good, I see this is not your lane Ren but of course you killed it anyway. A genuine apology in a diss track? After those wicked punches? Then you show love to your opponent? So good! Not sure why I was expecting a straight diss track from you, of course you'd make something we've all heard before into something we could have never expected (but we should have because it's you). I'm left blown away by you yet again.

Aww he's so sweet, he even brought flowers to the funeral... 🥹🤣

Ren, I can't believe you just lyrically spanked that man, then pulled him in for a hug!😂🔥

Love the message hidden in the flowers 🌹 Ren is holding a piece of Fern to represent new life and new beginnings, an olive branch as a symbol of peace and Chrysanthemums for longevity, fidelity, joy and optimism. Just perfect Ren ❤️

I love how he's like, "I'm actually sorry about this god, I'm sorry," and still goes with it 😂😂

This guy just entertained me for almost 5 minutes with a static camera and without even a background beat. HOW??

"You're just part of a machine, against you I will rage and I'm killing in the name of a king that I slayed" Fire, nice little tribute to Rage Against the Machine

This diss track is the most unique track I ever heard you did the whole song without beat that show your a true MC

Not gonna lie, I was worried at first that you were making a mistake stooping to his level - but I'm so glad I was wrong - because this wasn't just high class, this was transcendent. Ren, you've changed the game, again. This feels like a sequel or sidestory featuring Dark Ren and Good Ren from the Hi Ren universe. Dark Ren buried him, and Good Ren resurrected him, and lifted all of us higher by doing so. I feel like you just did this instinctively, but at the same time, it was inspired. Honestly, in my humble opinion, this is your most inspired track since Hi Ren. Enimen has that line about making "elevating music" but his diss tracks have never have never come close to this - this is truly elevating. This is an evolutionary leap. This makes all previous battle rap / diss tracks look like a child's fight in the schoolyard. That's not to say we can't still laugh and tease and poke fun and trade insults like in the first half - but the second half is the evolutionary direction we desperately need - so we're not just stuck in an endless cycle of fighting like children. In case anyone in the audience doesn't get it: this track wasn't just half mean and half kind - it was 100% love. If this was mean-spirited at all, Ren wouldn't have done it. He knew that making this track at all would only help the guy - and that's why he did it. If Ren had any true animosity for him at all, the best thing to do would be just to ignore the guy. Ren did this to have some fun and to intentionally give this guy the biggest boost of his career. What Ren gave him is essentially free advertising and exposure and a lesson in authenticity ("the new counter-culture"). P.S. Don't worry, Ren, you don't have to be an inspired genius mystic all the time - we are with you on accepting and enjoying the dark side and the light, the human and the divine.

Ren, you legit a real life Dr. Frankenstein. You tore off and beat the dead limbs off this man. Put him back together, brought him back to life and taught him how to act like a real man all in the same rhyme. I've never heard anything like it. Standing ovation. Keep being you Ren never change my friend, we need more light like yours in this world.

I knew Ren would uplift in the end. A man with integrity and a mission to make this world a better place! Brilliant Ren

Am I the only one who wants to see more of Ren utilizing the hambone technique to keep a beat? Because that was straight fire. Also, Ren, your character shines through like a beacon to those of us who might be lacking. Thanks, man

That's how you fucking flip the script

To all of king Dottas friends, family & interweb followers, sorry for your loss.

This was so Ren. Unique, poetic, and even when he's justifiably going at someone, he's 100% real and will still give flowers where they're due. He does it for the culture, and that's dope.

OK, I really didn’t know that I could love Ren even more but here we are. That was absolutely epic! Again, he is showing off his absolutely off the charts insane genius, as well as his incredibly compassionate, beautiful heart. Thank you again, my friend! I have been absolutely obsessed with you and during this very difficult time I am going through, you have been an incredible sun in my sky! Thank you! 💕

That creased me up, you had so much fun with that. Then the end was epic, much love ❤

"I genuinely mean it when i say you should shine. I just played you at your game so welcome to mine!" ❤❤❤❤

“I eat you up, then sh*t you out, I call that a Royal flush” 😂 you’re f*cking amazing Ren. The respect at the end is something special and makes you a GOAT. Congrats my friend!

he freaking "stomped" the beat out....like...with his feet...holy freakin cow balls.

The 'I'm sorry for this part *chuckles*' part got me good, but never did I expect the ending. Now that's a diss track, damn!

Your honor, my client is merely practicing self-defense. Ren was minding his own business when he was approached by King Dotta. Dotta shot first and there was no way Ren could have known that Dotta was firing blanks. So, when Ren fired a nuke at Dotta and obliterated him, it was in an act of self-preservation, simple as that. Tragic for Dotta’s loved ones, but unavoidable in the end Edit: nevermind, ren gave him a hug instead of dropping a nuke. Fuck me, what a guy

This is how to be a king and reign over your kingdom. Be fierce yet humble and lead with an empathetic heart! Much love Ren!! ❤️ #RENmakesmusic #Renisreigning

As a "metalhead", drummer, musician and a human I'm so glad you, your art beyond words and your message are getting the recognition. You make music industry and the world a little better place. That's something no one can take back. Keep composing and making art. Thank you on behalf of anyone who don't have a chance to!😊❤

I can't get enough of the way he is mouthing the "WHYYY" at the start, it kills me everytime 😂

Bro, I am so proud to be a Ren fan right now. Reminding us that diss tracks and beef are about the culture and not about violence. Dope AF man

Murderer out here killin' em with kindness. Sincerity is the sharpest blade.

the break of character to apologize mid giggle, the "Put down the cake!" omfg 😂

Of mice and men... Crushing skulls.... Ooooooof Followed by the Jenny and screech bars.... Gaaahhhhhdddd damnnnnn ren! Take it easy on the poor bloke!😂 This is fire (and I didn't even know it happened apart from I saw Dota reacting to the tales..) Mad respect

that was both brutal and classy af. this is why we love you, Ren 💜

Ren is the only artist that can wipe the floor with you, and show you love at the same time. Such a class act. You outdid everyone with that ending. This was pure. No music, no visual, just Ren and the rhymes. Love to you. ❤

yeah never heard of this guy till this

You got me again! The ending was as shocking as The Tale of Jenny and Skreech. You deliver your kill shot with kindness! Your talent and daily walk of the messages you share will change the world-You go by Ren, I know you as Hope!

Ren destroyed Dotta and then took the high road. Fucking legend. Absolute inspiration. Ren is here to heal the world by mending the rifts those in power placed between us. Embrace it.

My dear old mum who turns 82 next week just messaged me to ask if I’d seen the new Ren diss video, haha! Your music and art is far reaching my brother.

This was my introduction to you thanks to Knox. Then my Mum did a cover of Murderer and she loves you. I loved Hi Ren which I only found last week and I’m addicted. You’re amazing. You’re an inspiration to me. Keep up the good work and get well soon mate.

Damn. I was hating on Dotta on behalf of Ren. Then he goes and reminds me that in choosing a side, I'm still being divisive, and there's always an option to be better than that and lift others up, instead of pushing them down.

I've never seen someone murdered with such kindness and grace. So glad my husband and I found your music, Ren. ❤

Look at Ren go! Still showing love even when you don't have to. This is why we support you. Not because you're sick, not because you're white, it's because you're a genuinely good person and you're very talented.

Dotta and Michelle show sould be respecting Ren. He just put millions of eyes on their channel, and Ren didn't gain anything from this. Just a great guy that helps everyone out. Even haters

Being a 53-year-old man. I am being schooled on how to be better by this wise beyond his years human being. I do not have the articulate way to say things as Ren does, but all I can say is that this world is a WAY better place with you walking around in it. Keep up the positive vibes/messages and keep killing them with kindness. Love seeing someone having the self-awareness that his words matter when on a platform this large. You are a beautiful human being. Much love to you and keep rocking us with your awesomeness.

Dissed, apologised, then gave him the choice of either learn from your mistakes or get buried again, Ren you truly are a lyrical genius and love the fact there's no soundtrack just you and your words, makes it hit that much harder

He's six feet under, but dotta cannot fathom how's he's done in by a Welsh kid, he got bitten by the Dragon.

The fuck?!?! This is the best fucking dis rap in the world hands down! Ren fucking killed him with honesty.

Dotta has stepped up and is now reacting to Rens videos lol . And he has sent a truly heart felt apologize for even dissing Ren. Now that he has been opening up the good Ren is trying to shear in his music, He might puff a bit much but his reactions are real and just what you would expect from someone who is really listing to Ren , Straight to the heart !!

Even when doing a diss track Ren can't help but be the great person he is. He destroyed him and then showed him love 👏👏👏

Kill a King Take his Crown. LONG LIVE KING REN! 👑

Omg. He did him so dirty he stop in the middle of the song to apologize. I’ve never seen nothing like this. Wow……just….. W O W

Ren fights for peace among battle rappers and soars high above them all, alone and completely accompanied. Just sensational, thank you.

Ren's face in the picture is priceless. We all know where this will end. 😂😂

Tune in to find out how to kill a guy who's already dead. It looks like Ren is going to give that body a funeral.Thoughts and prayers

only ren could turn a legend diss into a real nice shout and still get a dig in at the ass holes that pit us against each other. Legend man Legend

“People only heard of ya cause of this rhyme” YUP!!! Haha

Dope. You met him down on his level and then at the end of it you offered to bring him up to yours. The high road is always available.

Wasn't expecting to attend a funeral today....

As requested, I subscribed to Dotta’s channel but made it clear in a comment that I was doing so at Ren’s request to share the love and support. I stated that I’d be looking forward to seeing what this artist can do.👌🕊️💕 I have immensely enjoyed watching many, many reactions to this video. It’s illuminating watching reactors hearts that were primed vengeance, be transformed to empathy, understanding and awe… Well done Sir REN!☺️

OMFG...thank you thank you thank you Ren. I DID NOT THINK IT WAS FUCKING POSSIBLE TO SURPRISE ME ANYMORE THAN YOU HAVE ALREADY REN...AND THIS PIECE AND THE WAY YOU VERBALLY ASSASINATED in the beginning for the LITERAL SAKE of playing the game was like a literal prey toying with its appetizer...but ENDing it that way MADE ME want to scream so loud in my house because YOU ARE FUCKING GENIUS. AND AMAZING. AND YOUR LIGHT IS GOING TO BE THE LIGHT WE NEED TO FOLLOW SOON TO GET OUT OF THE DARK THE WORLD IS SO COMFRTABLE IN. THANK YOU THANK YOU

I found Ren last week and he has changed my life. This man is going to change the world. He apologized for his words so politely while spitting fire. No beat required with this and that was a brilliant move! Bare bones with a kill shot. Dotta got schooled in so many ways. Damn...Ren is amazing in so many ways. ❤🙏

this is the classist ass kicking I've ever seen, goddamn 😆😂it was everything I expected and didn't.

What Ren ended with is so much larger than any one person. _"There’s a New Counter Culture In This World Of Division, Where We Bicker Over Politics, and Race, and Religion. There Is War, There Is Peace, That’s A Human Decision. Either You Could Be My Brother, Or Another Collision."_ This isn't new to us: _"There is no 'Left', there's no 'Right'; in the middle we sleep."_ - Money Game Pt.1

It still took your precious energy which is fleeting …but you are always there to share your ethos of raising all ships, truly an inspiration especially when you are still fighting to save yourself….wishing you much love….hoping your treatments are giving you some much needed relief and you find more answers to arm yourself going forward. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🫶🏻 Angela xx

You killed him. And then you killed him with kindness and wisdom.

I think we can already say he's won, based on the fact that there's a video with a camera that actually works and it isn't based on reading the lyrics from his phone .

Ren, I'm 60 years old and I know shit about hip-hop culture... Never been my thing. But you're getting me there. I've watched a lot of your vids and when I do, I know there's hope for the future. I LOVE your turnaround at the end there.The message is perfection and I love it. If you're ever in the Midlands either gigging or busking, I'll be there. Just keep doing your thing, because it's class.

Never heard of Dotta, Knox and Ren are absolute legends of men. I love the fact REN built him up at the end. Ren is literally being the change we need to see in the world 😊 🙏

This was insane Ren! You really slayed him and then you are still a warmhearted human being that want to raise him up. Love it. You killed it man 💖

Even what attacked, Ren still props people up. How can you not root for him to succeed? Ren ❤

I've been listening to Ren for some time now and I don't understand how can someone not see the absolute genius that he is. How can someone's soul not be touched by his words, by his music?! Maybe the soulless ones...I will be honest, I really had no idea who Dotta was before this... anyway,... Ren, keep doing what you do, cause you are the BEST at doing it. As for this Dotta character, I really hope he finds peace, somewhere... far away, preferably... 😊

"Either you can be my brother or another collision"

Ren, you're just unique af. Only you could make a f**king diss track that's so savage and then so kind at the same time, never heard anything like this before. I was wondering how you'd go about this, cause battle rap is like the opposite of you. You turned the whole genre on its head and gave it your signature style! This was so good, I love you!

Hope people understand it's part of the hip hop culture and don't take things too personal. At the same time, I look forward to the proof, that this young man (Ren, wise beyond his years) doesn't need anyone to put him on a pedestal. He never asked for it. Doesn't have to, he is just already up there :-)

I LOVE his technique. His Shakespearean bars. I also love how he took a diss and turned it into a compliment. He's right, it's an ART. Knocked him down, picked him up, and patted him on the back. He's right, now I'm curious about King Dotta. I can't imagine what is stirring in his head right now. Even acknowledged the "fat" stabs with an apology; a gentleman even in battle. I'm amazed that he can tell someone to f**k off and call them brother at the same time. And so POETICALLY! Yes, I'm more into rap than I've ever been due to Ren. Now I'm more interested in hearing it from others.

The Jenny screech violet bar was god tier

You destroyed him, and then flipped script and reminded us all (hopefully Dotta as well) that kindness and raising people up, trumps all else. So wholesome. So Ren like. ❤ Pure art! 💯

The Ren is mightier than the sword! ❤️‍🔥 Imagine if he’d taken 15 minutes to write something lol Absolutely awesome, dude. Much love ❤️

I must say that he is a real genius, i have loved rens music since the first time i heard it ❤ i hope he will make an appearance in Denmark someday 🙏🙏

This guy is the only reason I can get in touch with my inner demons and he has kept me alive while I was on my death bed. What a inspiration ten

Ren my wife and I are 70 yrs old..... we have shared HI-Ren as much as we can. Well done lad. Chris and Dave.

Nicely done, boyo! Especially when you had to stop due to laughing. 😂😂😂 You served up some punches then gave him some love. It'll confuse the heck out of him. Well played! 👏 👏 👏

I love when the title of the reference itself fits the rhyme scheme.

THAT'S how you battle rap! No beats necessary! Acapella Artist! And still a positive message. You really are changing the game, my man! NEVER STOP!

Ren has fought demons far worse than that of anyone coming at him with some kind of poisonous diatribe!! Ren is the epitome of 'Don't hate the player, hate the game' 💕

From the thumbnail of this vid I thought the bunch of flowers were a print on his top. I think it would be sick to make that as merch 😘

"Im sorry Dotta" 😂😆 this guy is really a sick puppy!!! Look,i didnt even know this Dotta dude until Rens diss video. Only now will i look him up

I was worried about seeing Ren in “Battle Rap” mode because I love kind hearted loving Ren. But I absolutely loved this! He showed us he can go hard and win the game but kindness is a choice and he showed us how to win with kindness and what he chooses to be. Thank you Ren! *Choose Kindness*

Ren, Im an oilfield worker, at work, and your battle rap made me cry! Granted I'm a chick, but I wish this world had more "Rens"... It would be such a better place. You made me so proud. I don't think anyone ever handled a dis with more dignity, talent, and intelligence. You used it to speak about hate and diversity. The real issues. So so proud to be a fan!

this is old wisdom. you knock your enemy down, then offer your hand to help him up because once hes on his back hes not your enemy anymore.

You really are a legend, my man! The biggest breath of fresh air in the entire art scene, not just the music scene.

Damn Ren. I'm proud to walk the same earth as you. You carry your heart on your sleeve and encourage others to question why we do what we do. Thank you

Here to sign the funeral guest book. The flowers are lovely, Ren.

That of mice ans men bar into the tale of Jenny and Screech was clean as heck. Ren you're so talented man

SO FREAKING SICK. God level shit

Dear Ren, The amazing amount of grace (not just the song on bagpipes) you put in at the end was pure apocalypse for any bullies trying to blow out other peoples candles in an attempt to make their own candle brighter than everyone else's. Ren, you use your candle to light other people's candles, not worried about your candle getting blown out by a bully because you have ONE MILLION CANDLES surrounding you. What matters is not how bright our candle is, but how many other candles we light.