Ren Reveals The Meaning Behind The Pig Mask 

I thought it might be something like that. In the Dexter series he called it his 'dark passenger '.

The zeitgeist Movies are pretty amazing man . Good shout ;)

Zeitgeist.. is the take away here, people. Watch it!

I find that due to my chronic pain, I know exactly what you mean about not remembering what it was like to feel healthy and normal. I also really connect with the bit you said about it being "comfortable " because it's kinda like.... well yes, it's Hell but I'm used to it so I kinda know what to expect and how to deal with it accordingly ....unless I have one of those days where I just can't take the pain at that moment. Those really suck.

"I don't even remember what it's like really to be completely healthy." God I feel that. I don't know what I would do with my life if I woke up tomorrow healthy.

I always thought the Pig Mask was representing Doctor's....that misdiagnosed.

Totally understand what he says about the familiarity. I’ve lived with chronic pain for 32 years. I’m 53 now. I don’t remember what it’s like to not feel pain every day… it’s so familiar now. And (sadly I suppose), it’s become a big part of who I am, my personality, my entire existence. Because my life has to be structured around it. Of course, I’d love to never be in pain again… but it would be like starting from scratch again.. where do I go from there? I’ve reinvented myself before, so I know I could do it again… but it would be a massive change.

The Pig mask to Ren is like the black ballons to NF. That's why I always thought that'd be one hell of a collaboration.

The Zeitgeist "documentaries" are very catchy for a young mind, but utter garbage in case someone got curious.

Zeitgeist let's go. Saw that when I was about 16 changed my life.

Never heard of Zach! But Zach drew out a really good conversation 👏👏👏

Ren’s rabbit! 😳🐇❤️

Such an amazing and genuine interview, thank you 😃🔥💕

I love Ren's explanation! I also think the pig mask has become his good luck charm, in a way!❤🎉

I'm so happy that he mentioned Donnie Darko.

Ha ha, charade you are!

PigBae!

hmm interesting - just watching another awesome reaction to Kujo Beatdown - and that person asked the question - so I was close... here's what I wrote: _great question about the pig mask - gotta admit I never thought about it_ _to me I'm thinking of the GREED aspect which is a big theme of Ren's (& part of the reason for his righteous fury over this - the greed of Kujo - destroying Sick Boi - something that Ren has put so much of himself into_ _also thinking of George Orwell's Animal Farm - 'Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely' - why Ren is so focused on being independant (sic) from the music industry._ _that's my thoughts anyway - I'll have a hunt, see if I can find Ren's thoughts on_ so *THANK YOU* - very much appreciate it.

I have had chronic pain for 40 years and I know exactly how you feel. I have had the same thought.

That was a wonderful interview, guys!! Thank you!!

I have had fibromyalgia for over twenty years and I totally get what he is saying I think I would freak out if i woke up and had no pain had no pills to take.. I would be waiting for it ti hit mer all at once.

I thought it might be like people being led like pigs to the slaughter, they don't know what or how things are going to go just miss led all the time,

I really feel that. And It sounds like a good technique to have a single object that a person could look at the way he views the pig 🐷. With someone going through kidney failure and on dialysis due to an autoimmune disorder I really appreciate and relate to his music

Completely understand what your saying here Ren

I’ve had chronic illness, chronic pain, and mental health issues my whole life. I have no idea what it’s like to be healthy. There have been times in the past where I’d start to become more functional but with that came this sense of stress and pressure and just overall discomfort and fear of the unknown. There were times it was so uncomfortable that even though I was improving, part of me just wanted to go back to being sicker again because even if it was worse, it was at least familiar. It’s a difficult concept for people to understand unless they’ve been there. It can be really confusing for the person experiencing it. I’m really glad Ren spoke about this because it’s actually very common and becoming self aware about it can help you to understand it and/or not get in the way of your own recovery/healing/progress.

For better or worse, it's your shadow and thus always with you. I know it well.

As others have stated; I too understand feom experience, what life with chronic heath issues is like. I also understand what Ren has had to deal with paychologically; due to having PTSD from childhood traumas.

Well said my son looks like you baffled them with his reaction at the end 💙🔥🔥

He was "made to be Broken and Beaten" Hits hard everytime.

We get used to illness over time. I have a Chronic lung condition and don’t even notice when I am coughing a lot of the time, and people point it out to me. I feel for Ren having pain a lot of the time.

My deep question for Ren is when you get better and as healthy that you can do you fear that your creativity will reduce? Do you think a lot of your creativity comes from the pain you have had to deal with and therefore will not have as much of a creative mind as you do now? Do you fear that or do you feel confident in your creativity that your circumstances have made an impact but not so much of one that you loose the creativity?

I watched all 3 Zeitgeist!!

Zeitgeist was an eye opener for sure.

Sometimes our demons have been with us so long they are entwined with our DNA and no longer a sperate thing we can remove. We learn to cope, to manage, and to box them up enough to live our lives - but they sit inside that box, gazing out at us, waiting to take advantage of our moments of vulnerability.

I knew it The pig is his stand

That sort of reminds me of my life after a recovery process has begun, from my addiction. "You'll always suffer, Ren." Just not to the same extent. Possibly.

TLDR. It is the "system pig" in all of us.

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Sounds like a form of Stockholm syndrome

Thought it might have a pork soda connection.

He got the idea from the other Ren... She uses a fox mask and started doing that many years ago to express her Ptsd and other trauma.

Getting Donnie Darko vibes

Great interview

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Very interesting, its the first time I see Ren looking his age and not like a teenager. I like it, maturity suits him.