Ren - Troubles | Psychiatric Perspective 

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Thanks for doing more Ren. He released this during mental health month, still fighting, for himself and for everyone else. I would never wish his health issues on anyone, but to see him make those dark days into something so empowering is just special.

I have a rare autoimmune disease (Polyarteritis Nodosa with Central Nervous System Vasculitis) among other chronic illnesses. I got sick when I was 16, that was 13 years ago now. I relate to so much of his music and lyrics. Love Ren! This song was extra special❤️

I was just listening to Moby-Natural Blues last night....my life is full of synchronizations. I never heard of Ren, i like him. New music found, thanx 😊

Ren releasing this during the awareness months for M.E and Lyme, and focusing on the Millions Missing campaign, meant so much to do many who are still looking for a way out of the dark. ❤ Thank you for listening.

Really enjoyed your reaction to this amazing song from Ren. I have suspected fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, MCAS and POTS and it has been extremely difficult to find a doctor to help diagnose any of them. I keep getting told that all my symptoms are due to anxiety and depression. In reality, my anxiety and depression get worse when my pain and symptoms flare up. I really appreciate Ren for helping to raise awareness of these conditions and giving us the strength and hope to keep fighting for help 💜💜

As someone who self-harmed for a number of years, I feel like it served as a way in which I could be 'in control' of my physical and emotional pain rather than having them control me. Sort of feel that's what Ren was referring to with the "kiss of cold steel" lyric...it was a way for him to exert some agency over his pain.

Did you go watch the Ren Chapters, leading to the release of this video? They are very personal to Ren and he chose to document them so folks could really understand. They explain in detail what treatments he tried and their effects on him both physically and mentally. Chapter 6 is particularly profound. He has them listed on his channel.

REN thanked everyone doing reaction videos and attributes channels like yours, Dr. Syl. As a person with MS, Narcolepsy with Cataplexy including Hypnopompic hallucinations and hypnopompic hallucinations, REM sleep behavior disorder, exploding head syndrome, right temporal lobe seizures, anxiety, depression, and a very long list of other diagnoses REN really speaks to me. October 22nd, 2023, I finally escaped a domestic violence relationship. Needless to say, Ren's music speaks to me

I think he means help with suffering. My son has been ill for 24 years and we have found very little actual help or felt like anyone really cared.

There is still no treatment for ME/CFS other than pacing. What makes it worse is the fact that doctors don't take it seriously because they can't detect it in the blood or otherwise. In the end they always say you have psychological problems.

I guess whether you feel diseases have been ignored depends on your perspective. I've known about Lyme disease for a few decades -- but I live in the northeast of the U.S. and that's kind of Lyme Ground Zero. Lyme often goes undercover and hides with weird symptoms you may not find in the DSM. I believe that people could overlook Lyme or not even look for it if the patient was a kid from England who wasn't someone who was especially outdoors-oriented. I believe it because it's what happened to Ren.

Reading comments on reaction videos to this song, and on Ren's page, people find so much solace in the simple fact that he's shining a light on what so often isn't understood by people who haven't experienced autoimmune diseases.

With great power comes great responsibility, and Ren is truly a hero! He is using his growing powers and platform for so much more than simply creating brilliant music. Ren has said that he always had this feeling that he was meant to change the world for the better. So much that he defiantly yelled a challenge to evil into an empty room. And then he got sick… Ren has now shared the full story of his health journey in 8 video chapters leading up to the release of this song and what a journey it has been. If anyone hasn’t already watched them, I highly recommend you do. With all the chapters he is showing immense strength in sharing his story that is so hard to tell, being vulnerable and telling it because he hopes it will help others and raise awareness. And here he is with another rendition of that story, now told through music with a fire beat and delivering a message of hope. But yes, it packs a punch. While being a banger. Ren is great at creating m contrasts and evoking contradictory emotions. You’ll get more of that in the chapters if you check them out - whether as reactions or on your own time. Equal amounts of heartbreaking vulnerability and cheeky humour.

They aren't receiving as much financial support for research as other less impactful things being researched. I believe this is what he means when he talks about them being ignored. Lack of funds leads to lack of treatment options. Also, not all Doctors take the issues seriously. He faced that and so did my daughter. She has been dealing with Lyme disease since she was 8, She was born in December of 1989. She didn't get anyone to even diagnose her until she insisted on testing in 2022. She had 5 different strains and like Ren is still dealing with autoimmune issues etc. We live in the US. I do appreciate your approach to reacting to video and subscribed

Great reaction as always. I think the whole bad feeling between Docs and patients with Autoimmune conditions, in a nutshell, is that because Doctors dont have effective treatments, they dont really ever say that to a patient, possibly worried that it will plunge the patient into despair, so they let that patient keep searching for a Doctor that does have treatments. Of course once the patient realises there are no effective treatments, and that Doctors have effectively let them run around seeking answers that cannot be found, they then have to go back to those very Doctors they feel they can't trust now, and ask for what they can give. Mostly patients need pain relief, if the patient cant be cured, they at least want the pain to go away,.. of course again, they are told 'No' by Doctors. Refused the one thing they may have to make life easier for the patient. They may be offered mild painkillers, or things like Amytriptyline or the old Naproxen, to try and get the pain/sleep cycle under control, but its temporary at best, and now the Doctor is looking at a Patient who seems like a drug seeker, so the distrust now goes both ways. Its a vicious cycle that can go on for years, until the Patient quietly drops out of the Doctors systems. I expect you've found that a lot of Autoimmune patients seem to disappear,..thats because they know there is no help for their pain at their Doctors surgery. The ones Ren call the Missing. They cope by abusing over the counter pain meds, or weed, or harder things somethings. Sort out the pain first, as Doctors, and Patients will stick with you, whilst ongoing research finds a way. We know Doctors don't have the answers yet, but at least, for the love of all thats merciful, treat our pain,..and not with antidepressants or CBT, or pain management. Hit the pain hard chemically first, then we could work on other treatments. If Doctors feel that people being addicted to pain meds is an unacceptable risk, ..just ask someone in constant, chronic pain, along with the myriad other symptoms they suffer if they would take the risk of having to have pain meds for the very long term. I can garuntee that a LOT of them would say yes. We have incurable, autoimmune diseases,..we effed anyway... given the choice of being effed and in pain, or being effed and without pain, we're going to choose the 'not in pain' option. Its Risk/Benefit. Against the agonising pain that strips you of your quality of life, to the point where you're barely living what makes a life,.. most would take the painkillers gladly, Doc.

Even knowing what you have helps so much. Invisible diseases tax so much, but are quite often still brushed off as laziness. When I got cancer, I was relieved that it was something everyone knows. Having lived with MS, ADHD and depression, my cancer was a ride in the park. I didn't have to beg for help. I didn't have to constantly explain myself.

You can think everyone deserves to be without suffering while still acknowledging that suffering is inevitable, in my opinion. I just take it to mean we should strive to reduce suffering as much as possible. I guess you could argue on the definition of 'deserves' but that might get a bit too philosophical 🙃 Unrelated, but worth watching Ren's 8 chapters on his 'RenMakesStuff' channel (not for a reaction) if you haven't already, they go a bit more in depth on everything he talks about in this song.

Thank you for your reaction. I have chronic pain and there’s no cure. The pain can only be managed. I have CRPS as well as a number of other diseases including depression. Ren and his music make my day a lot better.

Thank you for this reaction. I enjoy hearing your insights and reflections. I think Ren's reference to lack of attention to chronic illnesses such as Lyme has to do with the limited amount of funding and research that goes into them. Since long Covid arrived, it does seem more research is focused in these areas. Re chronic illnesses, so many commenters say they feel dismissed and poorly served by their medical system.

Thank you for reacting to Ren. He is the best musical artist of my lifetime and everyone needs to hear him.

You always add so many interesting points and facts to a Ren video, thank you. I also respect the way you give the artist the main percentage of the screen.

I think suffering is inevitable and pain is a part of life cause we live in a world full of polarity and all we can do is to try to remain balance and homeostasis. When it comes to hard experiences I believe every one of us should have the opportunity and resources needed to ease the pain and a chance for happiness. And I think we should minimalise unnecessary pain and suffering that could be easily preventable by spreading awareness and building a kind and strong society that is willing to discuss things with each other with peace and understanding

I agree with everything you said. I just want to add that not all care givers understand but don’t know how to treat… in my experiences with Fibro and my 17 yo son with PANS… we struggled to find doctors to even “believe” in these diagnoses. The ones who do have an overloaded waitlist. Fibro is better now, but PANS/PANDAS not even close? I live in the Toronto area… SickKids is a world renowned children’s hospital and they are only just starting to come around. But I do know that other countries are more on the ball. Your compassion and insight are definitely evident. Thank you. ❤

Wow, so close to your 100k plaque! Letsssss goooooooo

Thanks for your reactions to Ren❤ I would love it if you reacted to one of Ren's older songs called Dominoes. Not one many reactors do but would be of particular interest to you I think, as Ren touches on the subject of self image and eating disorders. There's just a lyric video for that one, but it's a great song. ❤

Emotional Intensity Per Second! Nice! And yes... Ren is the Champ of that!

Thank you 🖤 Dr Syl 🤍 for your 🐷 Ren - Troubles reaction! #ren #verahall #troublesohard #troubles #slaughterhouse #calgary

I understand, this one and Seven Sins are the songs that I always want get into it but content is so serious, tough always have conflict with myself😊❤

I lost 95% of my vision in September. I have Charles Bonnet Syndrome. Its a real treat. 😂 It was a sudden loss of vision. I kept telling people that it wasn't what i couldn't see freaking me out. It's what i WAS seeing that was. I was on a video call before my eyes gave up. I am absolutely positive he thought i was on drugs and seeing things. Because i kept seeing darting shadows in the ceiling corners of the room. Also flashing lights. Little did i know, it was the nerves in my eyes dying. Pressure gets so high that blood flow is cut off to the optic nerve endings in your eyes. If the pressure is not reduced quickly, the nerve dies. Charles Bonnet Syndrome isn't commonly known. I live in Canada. My optometrist didn't know it. It was a surgeon who knew. Bonus points for knowing this exists. Too often it's misdiagnosed for a long time.

Truly recommend taking a look at Ren's Patience, Heretic, and Seven Sins for an continuum of Ren, but take time for some of the glorious joy he has in music, like his work with the Big Push. like Bongo Bong, Praise You, Paint it Black, Precious ... the light to the dark.

As Ren said in Hi Ren….” There are victims and there are students.” Ren was both. He has made so many people feel seen and heard and understood and, in doing so, created a community within which you will find Renegades. I am one of those people. Since you mentioned boxing >>> Murderer official video first And to learn about RENs journey you can refer to the following YT channels of his: Ren Gill Me v s M.E ( vlogs mostly about the early days before and then after the stem cell transplant . But there is so much wisdom in Ren even at such a young age (~ 11 years ago) RenMakesStuff : The Chapters 1-8 that Ren wrote and released in the days leading up to the release of Troubles RENs Room : A handful of songs that REN worked on literally in RENs room because he was not able to go out and busk.

Great reaction. I have fibromyalgia, and am lucky enough to have a doctor that listens to me. So, while pain management leaves something to be desired due to fear of addiction, I've pinpointed ways to minimize the number of bad flareups, such as sleep aids. Sleep dysregulation is one of the biggest causes of flareups for me, so my doctor has worked with me to help that as much as possible. I'm still in pain every day, and still get flareups (like the one this week, most likely caused by the bizarre weather), but it definitely helps.

They are absolutely ignored, to have treatments available you first need research. The amount of research funding for ME is and always has been abysmally low. Much much lower (not even comparible) than less disabling and less prevalent illnesses. That is ignoring the patient population in and of itself, the psychologizing of these diseases has also stolen away from proper research and treatment. There is a long history there. It’s not necessarily that doctors and therapists actually ignore patients, but with that said I think it’s safe to say that every patient with a condition like this has been told by a medical professional at some point that their illness isn’t real. I’ve had countless professionals say this to me in some way or another, doctors snickering and telling me to get on with my life and go do some yoga, therapists telling me I must have childhood trauma or be anxious even though I insist I had a great childhood and have never been the anxious sort… they insist my symptoms are partly psychosomatic in the first session without really knowing anything about me, just because I mention my diagnosis. It goes on and on and patient forums are just filled with these stories because they are causing trauma. The understanding of these illnesses is lacking and this is the result, it’s not saying therapists are to blame but the understanding needs to change and the condescending attitude toward these patients by all people in our society (family, friends, doctors, therapists, politicians, etc) needs to change so that patients finally have their reality seen and heard and understood.

More Ren please! Perhaps bringing a friend in the mental health feild on here to discover Hi Ren!?!?!?

Ren - Diazepam (Official Visualizer) Look that one up. There is a woman who is a Neurologist who reacted to it her name is Neurogal MD here in YT. Love hearing mental health persons reacting to rens music. But ya, that song I listed, its a wonderful song to listen to.

Thank you ❤

Actually as a former chronic mystery illness patient, I can tell you there are many doctors who are not as empathetic and attentive as you are who absolutely blow some of these conditions off. Especially fibromyalgia! Not only have I been the patient, I've worked with these doctors. You're very kind and knowledgeable but you can't be that naive...

You managed to pack a lot of information into a react video my good sir. I will be back for more. Also well done on your journey seem a video of yours from 2 years ago on agoraphobia that brought me to your most recent content

Enjoyed this reaction. You should also check out Tom MacDonald. His songs, Castles, Sober, Best Rapper Ever, Scars, Church, Balloons, I Can't Sleep, Fighter, I Don't Care, and Stronger Version all deal with his addiction and depression.

I have fibromyalgia and went thru a the when I had been diagnosed with pots, but it went away, so who knows? Now I have psoriatic arthritis and take immune suppression.

I have Musical Ear Syndrome (self diagnosed, so I think this is what it is). I have hearing loss & tinnitus. One day while suffering from a migraine, I was lying down in complete silence when I started hearing a song, Eminem to be exact. I herd it note for note, every word. I do not know the words to the song. When the song finished I started hearing a radio D.J. and then an advertising commercial. I have experienced this only a handful of times, and it's very strange. Actually kind of scary the first time. I have read that this was my brains way of filling in the gaps, due to the hearing loss. It made me realize just how amazing the brain is....Loving your content. I am currently working on my B.S. in Addiction Studies

Happy to see you reacting to Ren again. You might want to also check out the Aussie rapper Complete, particularly the video for “Jordan”. It was released 6 years ago. Suffering from mental illness and addiction since a young age, Complete has used his music as a coping strategy.

Love your reactions! Should definitely react to ekoh & nate vickers hurt myself 😊

Cheers from outback Qld 🦘🦘 Dr Syl.

Thanks Dr syl! Always love your ren reactions 😊🥹💜

Doc, you need to check out Ren's earlier stuff when he was at the height of his illness, tracks like Heretic, Everyone drops, Diazepam, Dominoes, Humble, and Dear God. One of my favourites is Penitence. He has a vast catalogue so you'll be a while, awesome material for you to go through! It is a wonderful journey of where he was to where is now - that's is often why it's called "down the Ren rabbit hole" :)

Great reaction

Been waiting for this!

My favorite form of sublimation is Rage Rooms! There's just something about safely breaking things and the sound of shattering that's just so relieving.... plus I don't have to clean up the mess after lol. #hope

I believe Ren was referring to the funding side of things ,on another video he pointed ouf that there is less funding for finding a cure for those illnesses, than for finding a cure for erection dysfunction or male pattern baldness and he encouraged everyone to give if they could . This was also released on M.E. day and was about raising awareness . I dont think Ren in any way sees the medical profession as the enemy. After all in that song you just listened go he called a doctor an angel.

You should do How To Be Me (live) by Ren and Chinchilla, or Diazepam by Ren :)

Well you obviously haven't had much suffering in your life. People can endure horrendous amounts of suffering, that doesn't mean it right or ok or what people should expect. I'm with Ren, free from suffering should always be the goal, because just to be close to that would make a life good.

I really enjoy listening to you and learning as I go. I was wondering of you would comment on MES - musical ear syndrome. As I understand it when someone has a hearing deficit the brain creates sound. It seemed similar to what you were describing about glaucoma and visual hallucinations. Ren had talked about "hearing" classical syphanie

You may not ignore these things, but in Ren's case his was. Misdiagnosis led him down a path which was unnecessary given the hindsight of a correct diagnosis. I hope since doing this you have been able to appreciate the acoustic version? Many find it even more impactful than this version. Ed to add, I agree more with your realistic take on suffering.

Sadly, because our environment has been poisoned, compromised, and damaged no matter where on the globe one resides, these problems will get worse. I believe that since our skies, soil, vegetation and animals have been so tampered that as a collective, we are sick. No matter how healthy one believes they are, they probably aren’t. Even dogs are getting cancer! Sad 😢

I find that most true artists will go unnoticed; most people listen to the main stream music (which is mostly garbage - myself included).

Very nice reaction

Nice Not unsettled to be the 666th like ! Enjoying your content ...

My question about REN’s illness, at the time when he was 19 years old is why the medical industry got it so wrong? And would REN trust YOU, as you debunk some of his claims about his illness. It was so frustrating to hear REN’s story in Chapters, especially where they mocked him. So, I don’t know if I should believe you or not. I do, however, watch your reactions. Peace.

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I am wondering where Ren finds the energy to push a song likte that, going through the logistic of the making of this video, the waiting, the shooting, the retakes, etc...

Thanks for introducing me to Ren. What happened to your Muay Thai

I think Ren definition of suffering is different than the definition of suffering that you’re using. I don’t think he’s talking about pain or hardship. I think he’s talking about actual suffrage like he compared it to the holocaust. But for the most part, I enjoyed your reaction and thought it was very informative. It’s my first time on your channel. I have to look. I don’t know if you watched his song seven sins but if not, I think you should look into it.

36th!

when he says "ignored" he's speaking from his personal experience, I hope you're not so quick to dismiss when you qualify and from another angle, more money is spent on research for male pattern baldness than for M.E

Hey, be careful of head shots in boxing. Your mind would be terrible to waste!

REN put out a story from when he got sick it’s called missing it’s on he’s other channel Renmakestuff.This I think you would like peace

Thank you ❤