I just bought Espace Initiale few days ago (same engine, color, same equipment) and it's beyond amazing. Design, interior quality, and driving comfort are fantastic. If you want big luxury family car, but don't want or can't afford BMW X5 or Volvo XC90, I believe this is the car to get. The only downside I can find is the consumption which is a bit high from my perspective (10L/100km for short urban commutes). I know it's a big heavy car, but still.
@@redwhite_040 Me too. I saw the Espace, very impressive design but you can not compare it with extra space of the Galaxy. I have heard some bad things about the automatic transmission gearbox of the Galaxy, i don't know if it's true or not. For the RENAULT diesel engine 1.6 everybody say that is very reliable. I m still searching 😃
I think every attempt to be original and different in car design should be appreciated, supported and rewarded. If not, one day we will drive same cars with different branding.
I"m trying to watch Germany vs Poland (cheering Polish national team), not succeding because I"m watching yours reviews..Nice job standing out from the croud... Sometimes you are biased toward bimmers and sometimes too harsh on other brands, but its all part of the Show. But, also, it could be seen that deep inside you are very nice and fany guy.
Srdjan Boskovic I'm glad you see it that way. Yes, I sometimes play stereotypes or the controversial note to get people more involved. I'm trying to be the opposite of a showroom catalogue. I'm editing another episode right now, so I only hear neighbours. Based on cheers and booing the teams must be pretty even ;)
Another thing in terms of practicality. If you want to sit on the 3rd row, from where would you want to enter? From the boot or from the rear doors? I guess it would be the second. So if they are folded from where would you want to unfold them? Would you first want to open the boot like in the Grand C4 Picasso and then get in from the rear doors or simply be able to unfold the seats from the rear doors where you get in? I guess it's the second too. So here the Espace is really a lot more practical and the extremely laborious unfolding system in the Grand C4 Picasso (which is copied from the Peugeot 5008) isn't brilliant at all.
“What a beautifull disaster” Are you kiddin . OK i get it that you don t like french cars but in this case you are just beeing ignorant. This type of design and these kind of features are at their best here. And by the way with your kind of irony you will never be jeremy from top gear who you re so desperatily tryng to imitate. Very unprofesional review
This is my favourite Espace design. The new one is another boring suv. But the old one has sexy curves and intricate details. I would take this over the new one anyday
I really like the way this espace looks having said that the new Scenic and Grand Scenic look more or less the same which are coming to the UK, so not the end of the world.
considering price\optional\qualities all the complains in this video are a bit stupid. you should spend double the price for a premium brand suv and still it wont look that good and wont have that huge space. 4 wheels drives...forget it
I test drove the renault espace ...I wanted to put it on fire after 5 minutes. ahaha I have a bmw 530d touring from 2011 and i am going to keep it for another year at least. It's old, it's worth less and less every year but damn it is so good
These new Renaults do look great but there are still quality issues and silly things like that shopping bag hook that doesn't work. But then again the French government has spent billions on the car industry and we all know how things go when the government is involved, money is wasted and nothing gets done...
Ha ha, great car, the second one - not the first one:) I notice also that stupid "cup holders" under the flying console. Bud the design is great in and outside. It is Renault flagship with broken electronic during test trials.. ..
I own a 2006 2.2dci Espace, I love that car when it comes to elegance, practicality and comfort. It does not have good acceleration and handling. I was thinking about picking up an Espace5 in the coming years, but since my car is not only for personal transportation, I really dislike that you can't remove or turn seats around in the new Espace.
First of all based on my experience I CANNOT recommend Espace. I don't know you, your family, your needs, plans, etc. Go through this checklist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2xgeOhdOc1o.html
Saying that french design is not ergonomic or not logic and not user centrered is just a stupid statement. You are free not to like french people, but try to control yourself in your video when you test a french car. We could start douting of your impartiality ! lol And above all, it prevent french people - like me (I'm sorry) - to hear "without pain" your observations and analyzes. But beyond that and for historical reasons, I think it is not even a little bit fair. Although Renault's designers made few mistakes in term of ergonomy in the last renault Espace, it doesn't mean french design is crap. You shouldn't forget all that has been created since 1984 and the first espace which was the first at its time to be so user centered and so ergonomic. There are thousands of other examples in the french car industry. I think you'd rather use your sense of humor (that, like many viewers, I appreciate) to try gathering viewers instead of mocking (for no reason) a little part to please another. BR
I owned a Peugeot 306 for 12 years. Great car. I never complained about it. I love new Peugeot 3008, Citroen C3 Aircross, but new Espace is an abomination.
@@charlescasalis8067 Thank you for your comment about french car history! I m french and I appreciate this new generation of Renault Espace (his design and his good driving experience). I also want to tell you that the downsizing is becoming an "obligation" in our country because of many ecological taxes. That s why we must create "powerful" engines which don't pollute too much (downsizing is the solution)
I love French cars. They put all other drivers on notice "CAUTION! Here is an especially shitty driver." This is at least the way it works in Germany, same way in Poland Marek?
In our country all drivers that drive foreign cars are viewed as bad drivers. But because we don't have our own automotive industry we are all shitty drivers :) Love from Slovenia.
Goog reveiw but It is not accurate to say "the French". Talking about Renault engineers or simply "Renault" instead of would be better. The design director is Dutch, the manager of the multimedia systems Spanish, like many many others.
Yes, I know. It's like talking about Fiat 500, which is actually made in Poland, but you'd probably say "it's a nice little Italian city car". In case of PSA and Renault there is something I'd call the prevailing French corporate philosophy, which may not be so obvious looking at it from inside (i.e. from France), but is very apparent from the outside. It's as if whoever runs the company knows best, and if clients have a problem with it, they should learn this is the proper way to it. But this goes beyond the actual product. For a journalist trying to use French car media sites is like learning to work on a Minitel after using smartphones and tablets :) There is this arrogance towards the rest of the world. Maybe it's a French corporate thing. It is in complete contradiction to liberté, égalité, fraternité.
Marek Drives. Thanks for your reply Marek. The French population is so mixed up, with so many different origins nowadays, i do not understand this concept of "arrogance". I guess it's mostly a "cliché". It may be surprising from the outside but the French often see themselves as a small country, with little influence, little capacities... Whether they make good or bad cars has nothing to do with what they are. Some firms are capable of the best and others of the worst. It is more a question of organization, specific to the firms than nationality or culture.
Maybe it's the car companies then :) I owned a Peugeot for 12 years, and was very happy with it, so it's not like I hate French cars, because they are French brands. But I feel there a bit of opposition towards everything that may be associated with the Anglo-Saxon way of life, and this may be projected subconsciously. Or maybe I'm just paranoid :)
Marek Drives Of course I know you do not hate Renault, Peugeot, Citroën or DS because they are french, i never thought that ;-) I'm just trying to say that one company does not represent a whole country. Furthermore Renault does not have the same philosophy as PSA and it is difficult to find any common feature between them. Well i'm not fluent in English ok but I do not understand why we talk about the Anglo-Saxon way of life now ? Perhaps another "cliché" ;-) No matter, it does not stop me to appreciate your work !
@@MarekDrives run away from which one? Yes second hand. I plan to use it for 5-7 years until the children will grow and no more trolleys are needed or child seats
I think my Duster has better thought out ergonomics than this. ok even in top level trim (Laurette) it is more basic than this car but everything is well thought out. I only found out after one month of owning the car there was a rear cigarette socket !
When I tried to sit in the Grand C4 Picasso I always hit my head on the sun shades at the windscreen when they were pulled back completely. Also there are really a lot of issues with the electronics. Renault at least fixed the first issues by now. And I don't trust PSA's diesel engines anymore. My GF had a C4 Picasso with a 1.6 HDi and it exploded after 3 years just like that. There were no obligingness at all from the dealer (warranty period was over so they didn't give a f*ck). First I thought it may have been a single case but I read a lot of stories like that in forums, many dealers tried to blame the drivers with assumptions like they put petrol in a diesel engine or something like that. So that may be the reason for the better price. I heard they changed something about the engines since then. But the worst thing really is how Citroën deals with the customers after such issues. And these of course are things you can't notice in a 2-week test drive. Also speaking of practicality, I think the first Grand C4 Picasso was a lot more practical than the new one (and much better looking too but that's subjective): more and better storage places and a cockpit with a bit more than just two screens. The stuff on the cockpit should be for the driver and not to entertain the kids in the back seat, so maybe the C4 Picasso is just a bit too family friendly now.
+Anthony McBazooka Thanks mate. :) Really appreciate your point of view. See the opposite is my/my friend experience. He had to change three engines 1.5 litre dci. On the other hand my coworker had no issues at all. My other coworker had no issues with his C4 grand Picasso. After 150000 km only regular maintenance. Where I'm from Peugeots have bad service reputation. And just for a fun fact my boss have Alfa Romeos almost his entire life and not single one had issues. But he's servicing them in Italy. At some Alfista shop. Thanks anyway and have a nice time.
Which engine on the C4 Picasso? The 2.0 litre HDi doesn't have the same problems as far as I know, it's a downsizing problem. 1.5 dCi weren't that good, as well as the 1.9 dCi (120 HP) and 2.2 dCi (150 HP). But the 1.6 dCi should run for a lifetime if you don't mistreat it. About the price of the two cars, at least here in France you won't get a lot of money for a used C4 Picasso anymore so I think if you plan to sell your car after a few years, the Espace is the better deal. People will love to buy it because all issues with the electronics from the beginning are fixed until then (as far as I know the last RLink2 update to version 2 fixed all the common issues) and after that it is, as Marek said, “a brilliant car”. It's the same with the BMW Series 2 Gran Tourer, it may seem expensive but it really won't lose much of its value in the time you drive it. But these things can vary in different countries. I think the most interesting competitor will be the new Grand Scénic. Or if you like more SUV style than MPV for a family, the Mitsubishi Outlander (the 7 seater diesel, not the PHEV) is also a lot of car for less money than the Espace. The Nissan X-Trail could be too if the third row of seats wasn't completely useless for people taller than 1,40 m (Marek didn't test the 3rd row, I think he wouldn't even have tried, it is so difficult for an adult to even access them and then the seats are just a few cm above the floor - in comparison you'll sit like a king in the Outlander's back seats).
I had it now for 12 days in the Netherlands. Shit car. Unusable cupholders you need to do yoga to get to. Was a 1.6 diesel automatic. Averaged 10 km per litre in the Netherlands where i was afraid to touch the gas pedal. 3rd row was a disaster. Super uncomfortable. With all three rows deployed no lugage room at all. Infotainment system only French people can understand the logic of it. I was not pleasently surprised. Ahit. Renault have peoven once again they are a dumbass company who don't care about customers...
